Hello,
You will not believe this...it is like something out of a nightmare!!!
I received word today that in Feburary, my son and his soon-to-be ex-wife (read on,all will become clear! This woman is truly nuts!!!)
were separated...she wanted to talk and asked him to come to the local McDonald's...(He is in the Air Force, and a truly good guy!) He went, thinking this to be a public place and he would be safe...(she had previously threatened to kill him for his military death benefit!)
While there, she asked him for more money...he had already given her all he had except for enough to eat on for the rest of the month, ($16.00), so he said no. (Let me say, he is a peacemaker, what he is doing in the military is beyond me.)
She then threw an insane fit in McDonald's and
said she was abandonong him and the girls,and she got up and left, walking...He got the girls ready, put them into the jeep (in thier car seats), and went the same direction she'd went. When he found her, he talked her into getting into the jeep, he was going to take her and the girls back to the house and go back to the base...Instead, she asked to drive...my son not wanting to argue, let her...
She got behind the wheel, started screaming insanely at him, all the while speeding up...she then lost control, wrecked the jeep...no one was hurt...thank God! (The jeep didn't fare as well)
When the police got to the scene, she told them she was driving and the wreck was her fault...and they arrested her...When she got to the police department and found out the charges against her were felonies, she changed her story...saying that my son was driving and it was all his fault...He went to the police department to give his statement,(having stayed behind to take care of the jeep and girls) and they proceeded to arrest him, putting him in jail for 35 days...
Then, after his arrest, the DFC took the girls...my granddaughters and now have them in foster care (they got an even bigger sentence than him)...even though the military have done an investigation into the matter and have found my son innocent of the charges, (they are the one's who got him out of jail. He also has over 40 character witnesses for his character and her insanity.)
He has to go to court to get them back, but if the DFC believe his wife instead of him, neither one of them will get them...To make matters worse, the DFC did NOT notify me,(I am a grand parent, I DO have rights!) and give me the opportunity to get the girls and keep them out of foster care...
On top of all else, the air force is telling my son they have to discharge him...because he is ultimately responsible for the actions of his wife.
What is wrong with this country?
How can the military hold anyone responsible for the actions of another?
Why didn't the DFC give me, as a blood relative, the opportunity to keep my grandchildren, instead of immediately putting them into a foster home?
This sounds like it a violation of my son's and my rights as as Americans, and if it isn't,it ###### well ought to be...
This is what can happen to you when you trust the wrong person...beware who you choose for a life partener, they may be demon spawn and get you into trouble...
I also believe the DFC are part of who should not be trusted to act in the best interest of our children, as they get $1,000+ a month funding for each child they take and place into foster care...but they do not get this funding if they place the children with other family members!!! This is a denial of everyone's rights as a grandparent.
The military holding my son respondible for his wife's actions is also a violation of his rights..
they have already found him innocent, so how can they hold him reponsible? Doesn't this sound like double jeopardy?
Someone help me, please, who should I talk to? I DO NOT want my grandchildren in foster care, I have verified the details of this horror story
with my son's commanding officer...all of it is true...
This is supposed to be a country where the innocent do NOT get punished, the guilty do...
What did those children do? They deserve to be with family who love them, not strangers...not in this world where children are being molested by people in all walks of life...these things are unconstitutional, unethical and immoral...
For that matter, what did my son do? His was an error of judgement, as to whom to trust (and love), only...If we are all held responsible for every little error we make, who will be left to run things? Certainly no one...Only Christ was perfect...and even one of his most trusted betrayed him...
HELP!!! THIS IS WORSE THAN ANY NIGHTMARE I HAVE EVER HAD, AND I AM AWAKE!!! WHO SHOULD I TALK TO TO RECTIFY THIS SITUATION? PLEASE, THIS IS FOR REAL!!!
I am so mad, I cannot think straight...if it were you, you would be, too!
Send serious help resonces...Please!
Karla (rose47520)
mlkjfight@yahoo.com
Full Version: No one is safe anymore! Read on, you'll see why!!
dfc? i am assuming that is your local children and family services department. there are many employees of children and family services who are on a witch hunt and will believe the worst story and then twist it to sound even worse even if they have numerous people/witnesses telling them that the story they have been told is not true.
my ex-husband called children and family services on my husband and the woman that investigated it believed his story even though the children gave her another story and the people who are around us gave her the same story as my son. my husband had to get a lawyer. that seems to be the only thing you can do when you are being victimized by dfc. no one else wants to go against them.
i hope you get your granddaughters out of foster care. that is no place for them to be when they have a loving family member who is willing to take care of them.
the best advice i can give you is to get a lawyer but you might want to ask around in your area about a good one because dfc will try to throw a lot of weight around and you will need a lawyer who isn't scared off by them.
my ex-husband called children and family services on my husband and the woman that investigated it believed his story even though the children gave her another story and the people who are around us gave her the same story as my son. my husband had to get a lawyer. that seems to be the only thing you can do when you are being victimized by dfc. no one else wants to go against them.
i hope you get your granddaughters out of foster care. that is no place for them to be when they have a loving family member who is willing to take care of them.
the best advice i can give you is to get a lawyer but you might want to ask around in your area about a good one because dfc will try to throw a lot of weight around and you will need a lawyer who isn't scared off by them.
I feel sorry for you man.................sometimes its just not fair, but you can always get a lawer thats gets paid only if you win, sorry if I'm not much of help.
I feel sorry for you man.................sometimes its just not fair, but you can always get a lawer thats gets paid only if you win, sorry if I'm not much of help.
QUOTE(rose_47520 @ May 13 2002, 05:09 PM)
Hello,
You will not believe this...it is like something out of a nightmare!!!
I received word today that in Feburary, my son and his soon-to-be ex-wife (read on,all will become clear! This woman is truly nuts!!!)
were separated...she wanted to talk and asked him to come to the local McDonald's...(He is in the Air Force, and a truly good guy!) He went, thinking this to be a public place and he would be safe...(she had previously threatened to kill him for his military death benefit!)
While there, she asked him for more money...he had already given her all he had except for enough to eat on for the rest of the month, ($16.00), so he said no. (Let me say, he is a peacemaker, what he is doing in the military is beyond me.)
She then threw an insane fit in McDonald's and
said she was abandonong him and the girls,and she got up and left, walking...He got the girls ready, put them into the jeep (in thier car seats), and went the same direction she'd went. When he found her, he talked her into getting into the jeep, he was going to take her and the girls back to the house and go back to the base...Instead, she asked to drive...my son not wanting to argue, let her...
She got behind the wheel, started screaming insanely at him, all the while speeding up...she then lost control, wrecked the jeep...no one was hurt...thank God! (The jeep didn't fare as well)
When the police got to the scene, she told them she was driving and the wreck was her fault...and they arrested her...When she got to the police department and found out the charges against her were felonies, she changed her story...saying that my son was driving and it was all his fault...He went to the police department to give his statement,(having stayed behind to take care of the jeep and girls) and they proceeded to arrest him, putting him in jail for 35 days...
Then, after his arrest, the DFC took the girls...my granddaughters and now have them in foster care (they got an even bigger sentence than him)...even though the military have done an investigation into the matter and have found my son innocent of the charges, (they are the one's who got him out of jail. He also has over 40 character witnesses for his character and her insanity.)
He has to go to court to get them back, but if the DFC believe his wife instead of him, neither one of them will get them...To make matters worse, the DFC did NOT notify me,(I am a grand parent, I DO have rights!) and give me the opportunity to get the girls and keep them out of foster care...
On top of all else, the air force is telling my son they have to discharge him...because he is ultimately responsible for the actions of his wife.
What is wrong with this country?
How can the military hold anyone responsible for the actions of another?
Why didn't the DFC give me, as a blood relative, the opportunity to keep my grandchildren, instead of immediately putting them into a foster home?
This sounds like it a violation of my son's and my rights as as Americans, and if it isn't,it Have a nice day :) well ought to be...
This is what can happen to you when you trust the wrong person...beware who you choose for a life partener, they may be demon spawn and get you into trouble...
I also believe the DFC are part of who should not be trusted to act in the best interest of our children, as they get $1,000+ a month funding for each child they take and place into foster care...but they do not get this funding if they place the children with other family members!!! This is a denial of everyone's rights as a grandparent.
The military holding my son respondible for his wife's actions is also a violation of his rights..
they have already found him innocent, so how can they hold him reponsible? Doesn't this sound like double jeopardy?
Someone help me, please, who should I talk to? I DO NOT want my grandchildren in foster care, I have verified the details of this horror story
with my son's commanding officer...all of it is true...
This is supposed to be a country where the innocent do NOT get punished, the guilty do...
What did those children do? They deserve to be with family who love them, not strangers...not in this world where children are being molested by people in all walks of life...these things are unconstitutional, unethical and immoral...
For that matter, what did my son do? His was an error of judgement, as to whom to trust (and love), only...If we are all held responsible for every little error we make, who will be left to run things? Certainly no one...Only Christ was perfect...and even one of his most trusted betrayed him...
HELP!!! THIS IS WORSE THAN ANY NIGHTMARE I HAVE EVER HAD, AND I AM AWAKE!!! WHO SHOULD I TALK TO TO RECTIFY THIS SITUATION? PLEASE, THIS IS FOR REAL!!!
I am so mad, I cannot think straight...if it were you, you would be, too!
Send serious help resonces...Please!
Karla (rose47520)
mlkjfight@yahoo.com
[right][snapback]18762[/snapback][/right]
You will not believe this...it is like something out of a nightmare!!!
I received word today that in Feburary, my son and his soon-to-be ex-wife (read on,all will become clear! This woman is truly nuts!!!)
were separated...she wanted to talk and asked him to come to the local McDonald's...(He is in the Air Force, and a truly good guy!) He went, thinking this to be a public place and he would be safe...(she had previously threatened to kill him for his military death benefit!)
While there, she asked him for more money...he had already given her all he had except for enough to eat on for the rest of the month, ($16.00), so he said no. (Let me say, he is a peacemaker, what he is doing in the military is beyond me.)
She then threw an insane fit in McDonald's and
said she was abandonong him and the girls,and she got up and left, walking...He got the girls ready, put them into the jeep (in thier car seats), and went the same direction she'd went. When he found her, he talked her into getting into the jeep, he was going to take her and the girls back to the house and go back to the base...Instead, she asked to drive...my son not wanting to argue, let her...
She got behind the wheel, started screaming insanely at him, all the while speeding up...she then lost control, wrecked the jeep...no one was hurt...thank God! (The jeep didn't fare as well)
When the police got to the scene, she told them she was driving and the wreck was her fault...and they arrested her...When she got to the police department and found out the charges against her were felonies, she changed her story...saying that my son was driving and it was all his fault...He went to the police department to give his statement,(having stayed behind to take care of the jeep and girls) and they proceeded to arrest him, putting him in jail for 35 days...
Then, after his arrest, the DFC took the girls...my granddaughters and now have them in foster care (they got an even bigger sentence than him)...even though the military have done an investigation into the matter and have found my son innocent of the charges, (they are the one's who got him out of jail. He also has over 40 character witnesses for his character and her insanity.)
He has to go to court to get them back, but if the DFC believe his wife instead of him, neither one of them will get them...To make matters worse, the DFC did NOT notify me,(I am a grand parent, I DO have rights!) and give me the opportunity to get the girls and keep them out of foster care...
On top of all else, the air force is telling my son they have to discharge him...because he is ultimately responsible for the actions of his wife.
What is wrong with this country?
How can the military hold anyone responsible for the actions of another?
Why didn't the DFC give me, as a blood relative, the opportunity to keep my grandchildren, instead of immediately putting them into a foster home?
This sounds like it a violation of my son's and my rights as as Americans, and if it isn't,it Have a nice day :) well ought to be...
This is what can happen to you when you trust the wrong person...beware who you choose for a life partener, they may be demon spawn and get you into trouble...
I also believe the DFC are part of who should not be trusted to act in the best interest of our children, as they get $1,000+ a month funding for each child they take and place into foster care...but they do not get this funding if they place the children with other family members!!! This is a denial of everyone's rights as a grandparent.
The military holding my son respondible for his wife's actions is also a violation of his rights..
they have already found him innocent, so how can they hold him reponsible? Doesn't this sound like double jeopardy?
Someone help me, please, who should I talk to? I DO NOT want my grandchildren in foster care, I have verified the details of this horror story
with my son's commanding officer...all of it is true...
This is supposed to be a country where the innocent do NOT get punished, the guilty do...
What did those children do? They deserve to be with family who love them, not strangers...not in this world where children are being molested by people in all walks of life...these things are unconstitutional, unethical and immoral...
For that matter, what did my son do? His was an error of judgement, as to whom to trust (and love), only...If we are all held responsible for every little error we make, who will be left to run things? Certainly no one...Only Christ was perfect...and even one of his most trusted betrayed him...
HELP!!! THIS IS WORSE THAN ANY NIGHTMARE I HAVE EVER HAD, AND I AM AWAKE!!! WHO SHOULD I TALK TO TO RECTIFY THIS SITUATION? PLEASE, THIS IS FOR REAL!!!
I am so mad, I cannot think straight...if it were you, you would be, too!
Send serious help resonces...Please!
Karla (rose47520)
mlkjfight@yahoo.com
[right][snapback]18762[/snapback][/right]
PM'd you.
I know exactly what you mean, I have to tell my brother's story...
Ok my brother has three kids and the youngest one is to his ex girlfriend who is also nuts ( trust me on this one) A year ago my brother had their kid(a boy) over for the weekend, he was 3 yrs old and had hair down to his shoulders and looked like a little girl. My brother called me up to come do an emergency haircut, lol ( I took hairdressing a few years ago)I did the haircut and my brother, his wife and his older son took him home when he did she came after him with a stick and preceded to hit him with it in front of both the kids, this isn't even the scary part.
A week later he found out from a total stranger that his younger son was taken away by child services. Apparently she had taken him to the docter and the docter had noticed bruises. I saw the police report and it had 20 pages of pictures, it was horrible he had marks all over him--his face, neck, back, legs everywhere. It turned out to have been her boyfriend that beat him but in the police report it is obvious that she knew what was going on when it happened and did nothing, and it wasn't because she was afraid of him, remember she attacked my brother who is three times bigger than her. Also he(their son) said that she sometimes slaps him in the face. She even told the police herself that she attacked my brother over a haircut, the stupid thing is she told the police that because she thought it would look bad on my brother, how dare he cut his own childs hair!!!( he never told her I did it, thankfully I don't need that freak coming after me)
During the whole time when her son was living in foster care she would repeatadly call child services up and yell, curse and threaten them to give her her child back, I know all this because it was all in the police report, even with all of this guess who has custody today of him??? it's not my brother....
Ok my brother has three kids and the youngest one is to his ex girlfriend who is also nuts ( trust me on this one) A year ago my brother had their kid(a boy) over for the weekend, he was 3 yrs old and had hair down to his shoulders and looked like a little girl. My brother called me up to come do an emergency haircut, lol ( I took hairdressing a few years ago)I did the haircut and my brother, his wife and his older son took him home when he did she came after him with a stick and preceded to hit him with it in front of both the kids, this isn't even the scary part.
A week later he found out from a total stranger that his younger son was taken away by child services. Apparently she had taken him to the docter and the docter had noticed bruises. I saw the police report and it had 20 pages of pictures, it was horrible he had marks all over him--his face, neck, back, legs everywhere. It turned out to have been her boyfriend that beat him but in the police report it is obvious that she knew what was going on when it happened and did nothing, and it wasn't because she was afraid of him, remember she attacked my brother who is three times bigger than her. Also he(their son) said that she sometimes slaps him in the face. She even told the police herself that she attacked my brother over a haircut, the stupid thing is she told the police that because she thought it would look bad on my brother, how dare he cut his own childs hair!!!( he never told her I did it, thankfully I don't need that freak coming after me)
During the whole time when her son was living in foster care she would repeatadly call child services up and yell, curse and threaten them to give her her child back, I know all this because it was all in the police report, even with all of this guess who has custody today of him??? it's not my brother....
So much things in life is unfair...
Life sucks. >.<
People make mistakes and then blame it on other people. That's the saddest part... *sigh*
Life sucks. >.<
People make mistakes and then blame it on other people. That's the saddest part... *sigh*
Opps I forgot to say i wish there was more I could do for you. The only advice I can give you get a lawyer and try and get custody of those kids. Sorry i know rather weak.... 
do know that you are in my thoughts and my heart goes out to you, please keep us updated so we know what happens with them. I hope that someone else is better able to help you.
(((((((((((((((((((((((karla))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
do know that you are in my thoughts and my heart goes out to you, please keep us updated so we know what happens with them. I hope that someone else is better able to help you.
(((((((((((((((((((((((karla))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
so much for freedoms
The entire situation doesn't bode well does it???
Everything about the Child Protection Services STINK...They are not there to protect the children---but usually to protect the (abusive) parent.
I have been involved with the DFC for 5 years--due to my husbands ex-wife And each time she calls up on me---I have to have a worker come to my house--look around--talk to each of my kids and then me and then realize that it was a false call. And nothing happens to her when she plays these games.
However---she gets by with not washing the kids clothes, or the kids themselves, not dressing them appropriately for school(getting cold up her in WI and we had snow yesterday---both kids showed up to school with no coats on!)
But there is a loophole somewhere for the innocent adults in all of this.
You need to find the BEST family lawyer out there and a guardian ad litem----they will look after the childrens best interests.
And do not give up---because somewhere in all of this---you will find that GOOD does win out!!!!
Everything about the Child Protection Services STINK...They are not there to protect the children---but usually to protect the (abusive) parent.
I have been involved with the DFC for 5 years--due to my husbands ex-wife
And each time she calls up on me---I have to have a worker come to my house--look around--talk to each of my kids and then me and then realize that it was a false call. And nothing happens to her when she plays these games.However---she gets by with not washing the kids clothes, or the kids themselves, not dressing them appropriately for school(getting cold up her in WI and we had snow yesterday---both kids showed up to school with no coats on!)
But there is a loophole somewhere for the innocent adults in all of this.
You need to find the BEST family lawyer out there and a guardian ad litem----they will look after the childrens best interests.
And do not give up---because somewhere in all of this---you will find that GOOD does win out!!!!
Yhe children are not safe with their mother because of her driving and that accident. if your son has been falsely imprisoned that was a violatin of his rights. the military must have an appeals process in place, perhaps he can say he was separated from his wife at the time. She set out to destroy him and she certainly has. the childrens safety is the first priority and they are not safe around her. Do you have visiting rights at least? Look at all the trouble this woman has caused.
I dont understand a thing
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