To make a long story short: Yna of Fairy-Mails, Fairy-Cash, and BuildUrDownline (now called Pixie-Mails) is no longer on my 'Good WM' list, and I thought it might benefit the community to show you why.

So, to make a short story long...


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Exhibit A:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=225701


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Exhibit B: A thread I started in the Fairy-Mails forum.
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nikanji
Baby Fairy
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:20 pm Post subject: This may be a dumb question...
...but do the dates next to people's usernames on the payout list signify the day their payout request was recorded, or the day they're supposed to get paid?


Webmistress Yna
Queen Fairy
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:41 pm
No, the date on the payment list is the date I recorded the member's request

Have a great day!

~ Yna


nikanji
Baby Fairy
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:57 pm
Thanks for clarifying that. Now how about putting a note to that effect on the payment list itself?


Webmistress Yna
Queen Fairy
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:29 pm
Hmmm May I ask that you not take that bossy tone with me? It would be much appreciated.


nikanji
Baby Fairy
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:17 pm
It's amazing that you can hear my tone of voice just from words typed on a computer screen.

If I said, "Add that to the payment list right now," THAT would be bossy. "How about putting a note to that effect on the payment list itself?" is a suggestion.

Please chill.


Yna thinks I am <evil smiley>. I am really <confused smiley>, <angry smiley>, and mostly <sad smiley>.


Webmistress Yna
Queen Fairy
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:12 pm
You think I'm enjoying this right now? I am <sad smiley> too, you know.

Quote:
Now how about putting a note to that effect on the payment list itself?


If that doesn't sound bossy to you, it is to me. I don't know if it would sound bossy to others too but it does to me.

You could have phrased it as:

"Could you please put that on the payment list itself?"


Sounds much nicer, doesn't it?

Next time, when you address someone, think of how it would affect the other person first if it were to you. Might prevent further arguments to happen.


nikanji
Baby Fairy
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:03 am
Quote:
Next time, when you address someone, think of how it would affect the other person first if it were to you.


And that's NOT bossy?

If I were in your place and someone said what I said to me, it wouldn't bother me one bit. I am, however, bothered by being required to write an essay to get paid, which you said wouldn't bother you. Apparently (newsflash), we are different people and are bothered by different things.

No, I don't think you're <evil smiley>. I do think you have a serious tendency to overreact. Of course, there are certainly worse flaws for a WM to have, as we've all seen (*cough cough* ET *cough* Mendy *cough cough*).


Webmistress Yna
Queen Fairy
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:37 am
Having this conversation with you is pointless <laughing smiley> If you don't like the essay, as I said, you can always leave. Not forcing you to stay <grinning smiley>

Have a GREAT day!

~ Yna


nikanji
Baby Fairy
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:25 pm
Don't you worry--I plan to leave just as soon as I get paid and my ad is run. I only wish I hadn't ignored the early warning signs that we weren't going to get along and spent so much time and money trying to build a downline at Fairy-Cash. (Well, I also wish you were willing to consider alternatives to the essay idea since so many members object to it, but whatever.) I shall now leave this thread so you can have a real vacation and not have to converse with such a horrible, bossy, disrespectful person.

Oh, one last thing: Could you please put the aforementioned note on the payment list itself?

You have a GREAT day too.


Webmistress Yna
Queen Fairy
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:27 pm
Quote:
I shall now leave this thread so you can have a real vacation and not have to converse with such a horrible, bossy, disrespectful person.


By the way, being sarcastic (or mocking me even) is also being impolite to me. This isn't the first time you've been sarcastic to me, and I've really tried my best to be very patient with your attitude and I am seriously tired of it. So consider this as a warning for your account. If you have problems or have PMS or menopause, please just keep it to yourself.

Locking this thread now to prevent any more unnecessary and childish arguments. Create more threads like this just so that you can reply will result in your being banned from this forum. Call me harsh, but you've mostly treated me with no respect, yet I've tried to be polite to you, but you still went on.

Have a good day.

~ Yna
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FYI, everybody: I was not mocking Yna, either here or in the email posted in the other thread where I wished her a pleasant vacation. I honestly thought she might feel better and be more reasonable after a few days of not having to deal with someone she seems to dislike so intensely all of a sudden.

FYI, Yna, should you read this: My period ended ten days ago, and at age 20, I don't think I'll be going through menopause anytime soon. My problem is with your high-handed behavior and the way you expect everyone to walk on eggshells around you. And if you want to talk about "childish"...


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The remaining exhibits consist of all other conversations I've had with Yna, so you can evaluate for yourself whether I've "mostly treated her with no respect."


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Exhibit C: This exchange took place over email on August 8th.
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username: nikanji
bquestion_type: Today's TOS Addition
message_type: First, let me make it clear that I understand how unpleasant it is to have hateful, insulting comments directed at you, and I don't blame you at all for ammending the TOS to give yourself some recourse against people with nothing better to do than harrass you. However, I take issue with your use of the word "disrespectful." First of all, it's too imprecise. I'm sure all you meant was that you wanted to be treated with the same respect we all deserve as human beings, but a rule against "disrespectful" emails could be interpreted to mean we must never question anything you do (like I'm doing right now.) Heck, some people would say being "respectful" means always addressing the person in question as "sir" or "ma'am" and curtsying when they walk past. Also, to me, "be respectful" sounds like something a parent or teacher would say to a child, like "don't talk back" or "because I said so." Like you said, we're all adults.
Therefore, I (respectfully) request that you substitute the word "abusive" for "disrespectful" and "polite" for "respectful" in the new section of the TOS. Thank you, and best of luck with your sites.
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Being disrespectful doesn't mean not questioning, which is why I added the criticisms are welcome part. But I will take your advice and replace respectful for polite.

Regards,
~ Yna
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username: nikanji
bquestion_type: That was quick.
message_type: Wow, it sure didn't take you long to read and think about what I wrote. Thank you for changing "respectful" to "polite." Could you please also change "disrespectful" to "abusive" or "harrassing?" It may seem stupid, but it's important to me. (I'm weird, I know.) Thanks.
Fairy-Mails is one of the best sites I've found--keep up the good work and don't let the jerks out there get you down.
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Harrassing sounds good. Changing it now.

Regards,
~ Yna
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Exhibit D: We also conversed a bit in this thread:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...opic=212689&hl=


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Exhibit E: And in this one:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...opic=205712&hl=


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Well, I think that's it. If Yna's attitude and behavior as demonstrated here don't bother you, by all means, join her sites. She does supposedly pay.

Personally, though, I no longer wish to serve a Queen Fairy who demands deference and calls it "respect," but seems to think her own inconsistent use of common courtesy qualifies her for sainthood. I've already quit Fairy-Cash, leaving behind my second-biggest downline ever, and I'm only staying at Fairy-Mails until she either pays me or deletes me for posting this. Whether my fellow members decide to stay or leave, you now have more information on which to base your decision.

You both got narky at each other - how does that make her worse than you?

Not only did I not find Yna's "tone" objectable I do find your posting private e-mails in an open forum in bad taste at the very least. Yna from what you posted listened and considered your suggestions even when they could very easily be taken as rude.


Now how about putting a note to that effect on the payment list itself?


Yep I would consider that rude it sounds like your ordering her to get with it and do as she is told, I'd have called you on it too. I may just join her program and check it out, Thanks.

Sounds like you two should "part company"!

For one thing, I'm not threatening to take $30 away from her. Also, I'm obviously biased, but I think it's safe to say she got narkier.




Those emails are business-related, not private.




Such as?
Her response to my suggestions about the TOS change (Exhibit C) was great. Her response to my and others' objections to the essay was essentially "Too bad, no other options will be considered, and you're all stabbing me in the back by complaining." I really don't think my opinions in either case were phrased the least bit rudely.




I still don't understand this. I really don't. What part of that suggestion is rude? You don't have to agree with me, but if someone could explain this to me, I'd appreciate it.


Folks, I know I'm not a saint either. I got angry and I let it show. I'm posting a Complaint thread about a popular WM. If that makes me an ogre, I'm an ogre. I just think it's generally best to have the facts out in the open.

It's not the complaint thread thread that's causing the problem. Yna called you up on something in a forum that most people wouldn't have. Instead of just taking it in your stride, you dove off the deep end. When she bit back you didn't want to just let it go. That's how wars start, y'know

You've also posted those emails and I see no reason why they should be up there. You made a suggestion - she acted on it.

I think the Now part of the sentence is what has everyone upset. The Now makes it sound like you are demanding, not suggesting. I think if you had just placed the word What instead of Now how, it would have come off a little better and less bossy. Also a please wouldnt hurt either.

Hope that helps you understand.

No kidding.




If she hadn't already made the "Too bad" response to objections to the essay and told me I must have PMS if I was annoyed, I might have reacted better to HER accusing ME of being rude.



Exhibits C-E consist of all other conversations I've had with Yna, so you can evaluate for yourself whether I've "mostly treated her with no respect."




Thanks. I'll remember that for future reference.