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Hi all Free members

It is with deep regets and a lot of sadness that I announce the end of the Make A Sell GPTRE opportunity
Due to lack of advertising from members and the infux of new similar programs offering rediculous advertising offers such as
$1 adverts to 700 members and $3 to 10000 members etc
Yes I realise that these so called opportunities will never pay out but that has not stopped advertisers choosing their advertising rates,after all they are not bothered if the program pays just as long as their advert goes out
I can no longer compete

I have for a long time been sending free adverts to you all to keep you all interested
This can no longer continue
For all free members who have over $5 in your accounts please email me with a request for payment
I will be paying you as you have been with us a long time and deserve payment
I am sorry to the rest of you who have been active but with the current situation the likelyhood of you reaching the minimum payout
had become very remote
Thank you for your support
Good Luck in future


Regards

Nigel





Regards
Nigel
Owner Make A Sell

This stinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is horrible!!!
That is my #1 favorite program.

Why do bad things happen to good people, Nigel Paul is the greatest!

WAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Check the general discussions folder. I have a suggestion that I emailed to Nigel.....show him your support in that tread and perhaps we can change his mind

I hope so, jazmyni...I know this is going to sound melodramatic, but this is breaking my heart

SOrry I tried..had to delte my Ideas.....as NIGEL didnt want suggestions hes just closing.....no chance for a change a heart....

Somehow this just doesn't surprise me. I'm sad it happened, considering I paid to join the "full membership", whatever that meant. I have been paid before and in a very timely manner, but his manner of late, actually "yelling" at members asking VALID questions, constantly pushing, changing...just doesn't quite work well.

And I for one did NOT receive a notice of his closure. This is quite upsetting considering I had 5 paid ads getting ready to go ... finally got enough together to do it, even after his yelling episode at me.

I just went and put in my redemption request, as a full member can cash out at any time. I did notice he decided to tack on a fee for under $3. How nice--NOT. With only one referral who WANTED to join, I didn't even make back what I bought in. OH WELL this is really beginning to suck eggs.

When are webmasters going to stop and think about their responsibilities, and stop hollering at those who try, but don't have money to throw away? I'm NOT working these to buy advertising at every single turn! I belong to close to 400 different types of proggies, and work my rear off. I'd be out on the street if I bought ads on every single site! I've bought gold when I couldn't afford it, JUST to help out the webbies. My earnings on several paids are actually being donated to others. I had to tell my daughter today that her Christmas present would be late in coming. (My daughter isn't coming for Christmas this year and it broke my heart I couldn't send something.) So I for one am just plain sick and tired of hearing webbies whine and moan about everything and NOTHING. No one forced you into this. I'm very sorry if this offends, but I won't back down on this. I'm pretty sick of being insulted at every turn just because I'm not paying out the rear to every webmaster in happy paid to land!! Yes, I'm finished.

Well, I did go to MAS, funds were in there, so I wrote request for payout, had $2.223. I wrote in the request that I did not receive his latest email (and I HONESTLY DID NOT), he wrote back saying he transferred the money to my Paidbanners account. And that he SENT ME THE EMAIL.

Yes, the funds are there, but I'm telling the truth here, haven't received any emails from MAS about the closing. Just for the record.

This stinks... I actually lost money on MAS since I upgraded to gold-membership.

I sent him a mail, and got this reply: "No refunds on gold membership".

Thanx for nothing Nigel, way to support your true supporters...

Well as I recall, the email said "Hi all Free members"... maybe he screwed up and only sent it to the freebies?

Perhaps some paid-to-read program owners
need to remember that their programs would
not exist if there were no members.

And if they were honest in thier reasons for shutting down...the no advertiser thing dont fly,,,,,thier is always other means....and if you ask your members .......I bet they would have lots of suggestions

He stated;

Due to lack of advertising from members.

Most members join to earn, not to pay for advertising. They should never be counted as a source of income. Its not logical or fair to even partially blame members for a WM site closing because they didn't buy ads.

You are correct that people join most programs to earn and not to advertise, especially when you had to pay to join, as many people did, to get a preferred rate for reading emails and referral bonuses.

Webmasters sometimes expect the advertisements to be bought by the members, but this is not always the case. Some members are not interested in getting additional referrals to other programs or advertising a real product. They are just in it for the additional pocket change and, sometimes, looking for ads to direct them in making additional pocket change. If you rely on getting ads from your members from your members, then you will not stay in business for very long unless you extend your membership month by month.

he sent one email to the free members and a separate email to the full members.

both emails are quoted in different threads here

Well,,,when you email the webmaster and tell him how it will work...and have members agreeing to take less money for the links to make ads more affordable and such...and well you tell the webmaster and his response is NOT INTERESTED.......seems to me hes not interested in running the site regardless of the members or options

ah that really does stink ... make-a-sell was a GREAT program ... i remember when like hundreds of us posted our payments in the praises folder a while back; WAS definitly one of the greatest programs, I didn't even know about this seeing as how i am too busy advertising every day .. anyway just keep up the great work Nigel and sorry that make-a-sell didn't turn out as successful as you would have wanted it to be ... and like you all, i am very depressed at this news as well ...

Nigel is a great webmaster.

He tried to make MAS a really good program by offering high paying emails. Due to this, the advertising rates were rather high and members sought other program which offered cheaper rates for advertising. That left him with little to no advertisers.

Members advertisements are way of keeping a program afloat. Webmasters can keep sending mails out of their pockets, but for how long? They can also send paid searches, but do they always get a good response? Why do webmasters keep giving good offers for advertisements? If they had other ways of running the sites, why keep offering attractive packages to draw members to advertise in their programs?

I am not a webmaster and I do not know how PTR programs run. This is my opinion, but I always appreciate the webmasters who really try hard to keep a program going. Nigel is one of them. He tried his best, what else can a person do? If he feels he cannot meet members expectations the way HE wants, then it is his decision to close MAS instead of looking at alternatives. I wish him all the luck for the future.

This is exactly what I've been saying all along. Yes, I feel a responsibility to help out when and where I can, but I didn't join only to pay and pay and pay. I agreed to be paid to read advertising. I go onto these sites, I sometimes buy, I sometimes join, I can't afford to PAY every one of them for service, but I do pass on, I do what I can to help support. When I can I advertise my own stuff, but that's not why I joined.

NOR does it in any of the tos agreements state emphatically that WE as paid readers have to agree before joining that we MUST and WILL pay through the nose to SEND ads of our own!

If I'm wrong, will someone please direct me to each TOS that says I have to?

Yes, I joined of my own free will...and I'm not an embicile. I read the front page, the faq, AND the tos before I ever join.
I realize I don't have to pay anyone whatsoever to join and go gold or silver or full. Those I do, I chose to of my own free will...BUT I do it by research, questions, reading. That's when I join.

Programs like MAS, I saw some potential, liked what I saw of the webmaster, and decided to pay the $7.50. For what? Yes, I got paid 7 cents a link. I got some weird placement in a matrix that I wouldn't see any return on for what...maybe 3 years? lol I didn't join for the matrix, I didn't join to hear the webmaster in BOLD CAPS AND PLENTY OF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'S in his email berate me and tell me to READ!!!! AFTER I had already told him that I was missing some emails! He was quite rude.

I will give the devil his due, when I redeemed for payment, I got it very quickly, and quite nicely. But, that's as it should be. I did what I signed up to do, clicked and supported how I could. I don't cheat. I don't yell...however I DO question and DO state my opinions. But from what I've seen of some of the webmasters, lol, they SURE AS SHOOTIN don't hesitate to spew out either....and quite regularly and insultingly. They tend to forget some of us are quite well educated, more so than some of them are LOL

And you're very correct here, webmasters should never, EVER count on just their members to advertise constantly. That's just bad business practice. You won't stay in business long at all. There are many sources of very good advertising all throughout the net, if you get off your EDITED long enough to find it. There's a wealth of good, decent companies who are desperately seeking an inexpensive, well thought out, easy means of advertising. Don't just count on all of us to do it for you. Either we will and can, or won't/can't.