ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 07:35 PM
KIWI,
THIS PERSON PAID GOLD MEMBERSHIP FOR YOUR PROGRAM. I SENT YOU EGOLD AND I'M GOING THERE RIGHT NOW TO SHOW THE RECEIPT AS PROOF OF THIS.
IF MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT GETS MESSED UP OR FROZEN BECAUSE OF YOU!!
Web Accept Payment Received (ID #7JH68832B06451514)
Name:
William Erickson (The sender of this payment is Verified)
Email:
billyerickson@hotmail.com
Email Address That Payment Was Sent to:
stingerinc@hotmail.com
Amount:
10.00
Quantity:
1
Item/Product Name:
eBiz Paid eMail - Gold Membership
Item/Product Number:
gold membership
Date:
Dec 7, 2002
Time:
4:06:43
Status :
Completed
Shipping Address
No Address Provided
Payment Type:
Instant
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 07:43 PM
this guy has a dispute for his 10.00
i'm getting proof now of egold sent to you that you received this money.
take care of it ASAP because i have big money coming in from 1heluva!
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 07:45 PM
Transaction ID:
#7JH68832B06451514
Buyer Name:
William Erickson
Buyer Email:
billyerickson@hotmail.com
Transaction Amount:
$10.00
Transaction Date:
Dec 7, 2002
PayPal Case ID:
PP-006-107-195
Reason for Dispute:
Non Receipt
Date of Complaint:
Dec 18, 2002
Status:
Waiting For Seller's Response
Status Details:
We are currently waiting for you to choose a resolution method for this complaint.
As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, you are required to resolve any complaints within 7 days of the filing date (by Dec 25, 2002), using one of the following methods:
Provide a refund to the buyer for the full amount of the disputed transaction
Provide a tracking number that confirms proof of delivery to the buyer Confirmed Address
Provide proof of a previously issued refund to the buyer for the full amount of the disputed transaction
If you do not attempt to resolve this complaint in the specified time period, we will process the buyer's refund, and your access to your PayPal account may be limited.
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 07:47 PM
you have 3 choices as stated above.
contact your person in your email program.
and resolve it immediately.
1. send 10.00 to my paypal account
hes disputing a receipt of some sort. i could care less.
12/10/02
00:17 Payment Made 10205817 Gold -0.065224 497238 21.25 USD 325.80
To: e-goldmails
Memo: 24 from paypal - 2.75 to trade with someone
kiwinz
Dec 18 2002, 07:51 PM
LOL!
like i could really upgrade him why the site was down
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 07:55 PM
you got paid.
so issue a refund to him
this is the message i got when i tried to resolve it by saying another method was used:
Provide Proof of Refund
Because you did not submit your refundusing PayPal, you will need to provide proof of the refund. Please print this fax cover sheet to submit the deatils of your refund. We cannot process your submission unless you use the cover sheet provided.
Back to Disputed Transactions
so you contact that person now.
kiwinz
Dec 18 2002, 07:56 PM
new site is up
http://www.golden-emails.comjust getting a few things sorted
he will have his gold memebrship within a few hours
I aint refunding you ######
You pay me the rest of what you owe me and ill send you your $10 back
kglaser
Dec 18 2002, 08:00 PM
I am reeeaal confused.
Is it just me?
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 08:00 PM
QUOTE (kiwinz @ Dec 18 2002, 08:56 PM)
new site is up
http://www.golden-emails.comjust getting a few things sorted
he will have his gold memebrship within a few hours
I aint refunding you ######
You pay me the rest of what you owe me and ill send you your $10 back
i dont owe you anything
and if i had the 10.00 i'd just send it
but i'm stuck with 3.06 left in paypal.
you are not a nice person and I pray that nobody else lets you use their paypal address!!
kiwinz
Dec 18 2002, 08:02 PM
QUOTE (ILostMyTrueLove @ Dec 19 2002, 02:00 PM)
QUOTE (kiwinz @ Dec 18 2002, 08:56 PM)
new site is up
http://www.golden-emails.comjust getting a few things sorted
he will have his gold memebrship within a few hours
I aint refunding you ######
You pay me the rest of what you owe me and ill send you your $10 back
i dont owe you anything
and if i had the 10.00 i'd just send it
but i'm stuck with 3.06 left in paypal.
you are not a nice person and I pray that nobody else lets you use their paypal address!!
$90 from our 1heluva deal
amysrewards4mail
Dec 18 2002, 08:04 PM
Isn't this a personal matter? Wouldn't it be best if you handled it in private?
Just a thought
kiwinz
Dec 18 2002, 08:06 PM
She knows my email address and shes free to email me about it
kglaser
Dec 18 2002, 08:08 PM
Okay, now I think I gitit...ILMTL let kiwinz use her PayPal account and then a complaint was filed against him and now her PayPal account is in jeopardy.
And amyszoo, that's exactly what I was just thinking...
freeandeasy
Dec 18 2002, 08:09 PM
QUOTE (kglaser @ Dec 18 2002, 08:00 PM)
I am reeeaal confused.
Is it just me?

I'm a tad confused, too....
Spartaman
Dec 18 2002, 08:10 PM
ILostMyTrueLove, you gotta stop yelling at everyone, everywhere I see a post of yours, you're always arguing with someone.
Take a deep breath and count backwards from ten...
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 08:11 PM
this is not a personal matter.
kiwi used my paypal address for her new email program
and she did not give gold to members and so those that paid by paypal are disputing and therefore since I cant provide proof that egold was sent because this is "an other".
i have to refund the 10.00
i dont owe you anything for 1heluva. kiwi. i paid you in full.
that was posted as proof in the other thread you started.
regardless
I HAVE REQUESTED REDEMPTION FROM PENNIES
and i hope they pay fast. i have 3.06 plus that 5 will give me 8.06 so therefore i only need to trade egold for 2.00
and im posting immediately that i will give 2.50 egold for 2.00 paypal!
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 08:13 PM
QUOTE (kglaser @ Dec 18 2002, 09:08 PM)
Okay, now I think I gitit...ILMTL let kiwinz use her PayPal account and then a complaint was filed against him and now her PayPal account is in jeopardy.
And amyszoo, that's exactly what I was just thinking...

you got it!
but its not personal when it involves a gptr site.
she ripped this guy off of gold. there's 2 others on my paypal also that sent 10.00 for the gold membership. they havent done anything so i'm assuming she took care of them.
and now i'm out of 10.00. so kiwi, i hope you enjoy your xmas present.
kiwinz
Dec 18 2002, 08:14 PM
hmmm dont know about you Americans but $30 surely isnt $120 where i am
Consider this my last reply in this thread
kglaser
Dec 18 2002, 08:14 PM
QUOTE (Spartaman @ Dec 19 2002, 02:10 AM)
ILostMyTrueLove, you gotta stop yelling at everyone, everywhere I see a post of yours, you're always arguing with someone.
Take a deep breath and count backwards from ten...
I gotta defend ILostMyTrueLove here...that might have been true for some older threads, but she has definitely "mellowed out" of late...Did you read the 1Heluva thread with ISAAF and shadowman? She was the very model of restraint and good netiquette.
amysrewards4mail
Dec 18 2002, 08:17 PM
QUOTE (ILostMyTrueLove @ Dec 19 2002, 10:11 AM)
this is not a personal matter.
kiwi used my paypal address for her new email program
and she did not give gold to members and so those that paid by paypal are disputing and therefore since I cant provide proof that egold was sent because this is "an other".
i have to refund the 10.00
i dont owe you anything for 1heluva. kiwi. i paid you in full.
that was posted as proof in the other thread you started.
regardless
I HAVE REQUESTED REDEMPTION FROM PENNIES
and i hope they pay fast. i have 3.06 plus that 5 will give me 8.06 so therefore i only need to trade egold for 2.00
and im posting immediately that i will give 2.50 egold for 2.00 paypal!
Did you try to resolve the matter via email before bringing it here? And it IS a private matter as it has to do with an arrangement you and kiwinz had. I think things could better be resolved in private then confusing everyone here with it don't ya think?
Also I thought kiwinz was a guy? Sorry if I am wrong kiwinz.
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 08:19 PM
QUOTE (Spartaman @ Dec 18 2002, 09:10 PM)
ILostMyTrueLove, you gotta stop yelling at everyone, everywhere I see a post of yours, you're always arguing with someone.
Take a deep breath and count backwards from ten...
I'm sorry for yelling.
okay.
i'm calmed down.
i just cashed out and pennies just paid me!! i love them!
so now i have 8.06 in my account. forget it lol they gave me all my money so now I have 9.32 in my account
i just posted a money exchange thread and i'm giving 2.50 egold for 2.00 paypal.
fair deal. more than fair for emergency.
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 08:30 PM
i just refunded the 10.00 back to your gold member.
have a Merry Xmas kiwi. You got yourself a nice present.
you are not a trusting person.
this guy paid on 12/7 BEFORE your site got hacked

so therefore, you didnt give him a gold membership because why??
this folder can now close.
Poncer
Dec 18 2002, 08:51 PM
I think we all learn from this post. Never share a Paypal account with someone else.
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 08:57 PM
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 18 2002, 09:51 PM)
I think we all learn from this post. Never share a Paypal account with someone else.

and I was only trying to help because he needed a paypal address.
i didnt even know about how to do disputes lol but now i see how it is done.
i didnt realize what sharing could actually do to an account.
i panicked. cuz i didnt have the 10. but thanks to pennies for a 5 minute payout! and others who came through for me.
all i could think of was if my account got frozen, i'd be done for with 1heluva.
ah well,
its done with now.
ElsikRamsFootball
Dec 18 2002, 09:24 PM
ILostMyTrueLove is probably telling the truth.
I've seen alot of evidence to see that Kiwi is a possible con artist.
Evidence will not be shown here.
kiwinz
Dec 18 2002, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (ElsikRamsFootball @ Dec 19 2002, 03:24 PM)
ILostMyTrueLove is probably telling the truth.
I've seen alot of evidence to see that Kiwi is a possible con artist.
Evidence will not be shown here.
Please post this so called evidence
ElsikRamsFootball
Dec 18 2002, 09:40 PM
Kiwi what is that on your signature!
That is a vololation!
Mods delete that now!
Brianlfc
Dec 18 2002, 09:45 PM
QUOTE (kiwinz @ Dec 19 2002, 03:25 AM)
QUOTE (ElsikRamsFootball @ Dec 19 2002, 03:24 PM)
ILostMyTrueLove is probably telling the truth.
I've seen alot of evidence to see that Kiwi is a possible con artist.
Evidence will not be shown here.
Please post this so called evidence
Kiwi, I'm not exactly calling you a con-artist, but I know one thing!
Several months ago you had a post in the referral exchange asking what people would offer for you to join PaidBizOpmail!
I alledgedly won the sign-up and did you an email via Tasias!
I can even tell you what the advert was, it was for a Search Engine of yours!
You signed under me!
To this day, you've not clicked a single thing on PaidBiz and not earned me a single cent!
I asked you about this, but you said you had had no emails!
What about the banners on the site? Theres 6 - 7 cents there daily to earn? And I told you about them!
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 09:53 PM
and you also joined up dustygold under wildcat and never posted your stats for the 50 cent monthly bonus. you were the only one.
kiwi,
i feel sorry for you.
you got a 10.00 xmas present because i had to refund that person because you never gave gold to them even though you got the money way before your site was even hacked.
i'm glad i took you off my paypal address.
you dont even say thank you for refunding that person. or sorry, i forgot to give gold membership to that person.
you didnt even email your members! about your relaunch! you didnt even notify your members about the gold membership!!
you have a hotmail account. you could have done it through that way for those who paid for gold!!
you got a receipt from that person whenever they paid you via paypal!!! Paypal sends a receipt for everything!
Poncer
Dec 18 2002, 09:54 PM
I never knew Kiwinz to be a cheater or a scammer. But, I have notice he has a support section over at venomx's forum. And, that is bad for Kiwinz for Kiwinz did in his signature. He is being disresepctful to this forum, lgwong, and the members for doing that.
Brianlfc
Dec 18 2002, 09:56 PM
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 19 2002, 03:54 AM)
I never knew Kiwinz to be a cheater or a scammer. But, I have notice he has a support section over at venomx's forum. And, that is bad for Kiwinz for Kiwinz did in his signature. He is being disresepctful to this forum, lgwong, and the members for doing that.

Poncer, I think Kiwi is a she, well the name I see in my PaidBiz referral account is certainly a female name!
ElsikRamsFootball
Dec 18 2002, 09:59 PM
QUOTE (ILostMyTrueLove @ Dec 18 2002, 09:53 PM)
and you also joined up dustygold under wildcat and never posted your stats for the 50 cent monthly bonus. you were the only one.
kiwi,
i feel sorry for you.
you got a 10.00 xmas present because i had to refund that person because you never gave gold to them even though you got the money way before your site was even hacked.
i'm glad i took you off my paypal address.
you dont even say thank you for refunding that person. or sorry, i forgot to give gold membership to that person.
you didnt even email your members! about your relaunch! you didnt even notify your members about the gold membership!!
you have a hotmail account. you could have done it through that way for those who paid for gold!!
you got a receipt from that person whenever they paid you via paypal!!! Paypal sends a receipt for everything!
I'm with you
Poncer
Dec 18 2002, 09:59 PM
Kiwinz posted that he is a guy. This is getting strange. He has a woman's name, and claims to be a man in these forums?
ElsikRamsFootball
Dec 18 2002, 10:00 PM
QUOTE (brianlfc @ Dec 18 2002, 09:56 PM)
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 19 2002, 03:54 AM)
I never knew Kiwinz to be a cheater or a scammer. But, I have notice he has a support section over at venomx's forum. And, that is bad for Kiwinz for Kiwinz did in his signature. He is being disresepctful to this forum, lgwong, and the members for doing that. :(
Poncer, I think Kiwi is a she, well the name I see in my PaidBiz referral account is certainly a female name!
No kiwniz is a He. Corey McLean. Possible con artist
Brianlfc
Dec 18 2002, 10:02 PM
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 19 2002, 03:59 AM)
Kiwinz posted that he is a guy. This is getting strange. He has a woman's name, and claims to be a man in these forums?

Well I don't know if this name is also a male name in NZ, but here (UK) its certainly a female name
Poncer
Dec 18 2002, 10:02 PM
Seems like King Canute knew what was up with Kiwinz.
KensLuv22
Dec 18 2002, 10:04 PM
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 18 2002, 10:54 PM)
But, I have notice he has a support section over at venomx's forum.
Looks like that's where he/she belongs.......with the cheaters!!! I'm glad I didn't join his/her program!
KensLuv22
Dec 18 2002, 10:04 PM
QUOTE (brianlfc @ Dec 18 2002, 11:02 PM)
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 19 2002, 03:59 AM)
Kiwinz posted that he is a guy. This is getting strange. He has a woman's name, and claims to be a man in these forums?

:unsure:
Well I don't know if this name is also a male name in NZ, but here (UK) its certainly a female name

Corey is a male or female name in the US.
Brianlfc
Dec 18 2002, 10:05 PM
QUOTE (ElsikRamsFootball @ Dec 19 2002, 04:00 AM)
QUOTE (brianlfc @ Dec 18 2002, 09:56 PM)
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 19 2002, 03:54 AM)
I never knew Kiwinz to be a cheater or a scammer. But, I have notice he has a support section over at venomx's forum. And, that is bad for Kiwinz for Kiwinz did in his signature. He is being disresepctful to this forum, lgwong, and the members for doing that. ?

Poncer, I think Kiwi is a she, well the name I see in my PaidBiz referral account is certainly a female name!
No kiwniz is a He. Corey McLean. Possible con artist
Ahhh, thanks for that, lol, Corey over here is a female name
If I'd had known that I would have been a bit more argumentive (as I don't like arguing with females)
Right Mr Corey Kiwi New Zealand, could I please have my 50 cents that the email I sent out for you in Tasias back?
Actually, seeing as though you're not a platinum member, I'll have the $19.99 for what it would have cost YOU!
LOL, Naaa, keep it, as you obviously need every cent you get your hands on if whats been said here is anything to go by!
Isn't it interesting that Kiwi has stopped replying in this thread?
Guilty conscience me thinks!
ElsikRamsFootball
Dec 18 2002, 10:06 PM
Now Now people we can't say Kiwinz a cheater. We dont visual evidence that he is. But that pic in his signature is not allowed!
Brianlfc
Dec 18 2002, 10:07 PM
QUOTE (KensLuv22 @ Dec 19 2002, 04:04 AM)
QUOTE (brianlfc @ Dec 18 2002, 11:02 PM)
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 19 2002, 03:59 AM)
Kiwinz posted that he is a guy. This is getting strange. He has a woman's name, and claims to be a man in these forums? ?

?

Well I don't know if this name is also a male name in NZ, but here (UK) its certainly a female name

Corey is a male or female name in the US.

Taaa for that Robyn, maybe it is here as well, lol, but I've only ever heard it as a female name
Poncer
Dec 18 2002, 10:08 PM
You are correct. Seems like he left completely seeing all this bashing.
Brianlfc
Dec 18 2002, 10:08 PM
QUOTE (ElsikRamsFootball @ Dec 19 2002, 04:06 AM)
Now Now people we can't say Kiwinz a cheater. We dont visual evidence that he is. But that pic in his signature is not allowed!
Well if signing under someone in the "referral exchange" folder and not clicking anything is not cheating, what is?
KensLuv22
Dec 18 2002, 10:09 PM
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 18 2002, 11:08 PM)
You are correct. Seems like he left completely seeing all this bashing.

He deserves it by ripping people off!
amysrewards4mail
Dec 18 2002, 10:49 PM
I still think it's better to try to work out problems in private before bringing them to the forum
Obviously Kiwinz says she owes him money and something went wrong and she had to pay $10 out on his behalf. Don't know either person, but hope they resolve their issues.
Poncer
Dec 18 2002, 10:56 PM
Well, it is not nice to do it in public, but Kiwinz did not do it either when he posted what he did.
ILostMyTrueLove
Dec 18 2002, 10:59 PM
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 18 2002, 11:08 PM)
You are correct. Seems like he left completely seeing all this bashing.

i'm wondering why i received 450 emails? every one of them is now being forwarded on to lgwong and webmaster@getpaidforum.com
GRL VenCap
Dec 18 2002, 11:00 PM
nevermind
Brianlfc
Dec 18 2002, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (ILostMyTrueLove @ Dec 19 2002, 04:59 AM)
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 18 2002, 11:08 PM)
You are correct. Seems like he left completely seeing all this bashing.

i'm wondering why i received 450 emails? every one of them is now being forwarded on to lgwong and webmaster@getpaidforum.com
450 emails ???
Caroline, who are they off?
KensLuv22
Dec 18 2002, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (ILostMyTrueLove @ Dec 18 2002, 11:59 PM)
QUOTE (Poncer @ Dec 18 2002, 11:08 PM)
You are correct. Seems like he left completely seeing all this bashing.

i'm wondering why i received 450 emails? every one of them is now being forwarded on to lgwong and webmaster@getpaidforum.com
WoW!!! It's a shame that Kiwi can't be mature about this.
And, YES! I am offended by his signature! And there are no mods here to take care of it.
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