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tipsy
In an email to it's member's the webmaster of Opt-In-Pays explains that his paypal account has been locked by paypal which means all November earnings can not be paid at this time as well as any advertising purchased on Friday can not be processed They are looking into this situation to find out why their account was locked as well as looking into other ways to pay members.

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2002-12-14: Our PayPal account has been locked by PayPal. We are attempting to find out from PayPal why this has happened and how to unlock it, but so far we have not heard anything. Having the account locked has caused all payments from November earnings that were still pending to be cancelled. It has also caused us to not be able to process payments for advertising purchases on Friday. In response to this, we have implemented a new payment processor to accept payments by credit card and echeck and that is now live! While we are attempting to get our PayPal account back to normal, we will be looking at the many alternatives for sending out your earnings in the future. It's back to business as usual. :-) We apoligize for the inconvenience this has caused!
papnille
Definitely, they have very good tastes at PayPal.

They seem to only strike good programs.
michael
What are they going to pay out with now. I hope they get their account back.
Ravenn
Yay maybe they will decide to use EGOLD!! woo hooo ab.gif
lolz
Then how bout linkburst and links2cash ???
Brenda@PJ
Oh man, I hope they get it sorted out...
princessbbf2
QUOTE (lolz @ Dec 16 2002, 06:33 AM)
Then how bout linkburst and links2cash ???

i'm guessing all 3 programs will be affected as the payments are all sent from the same email address.
lolz
yea !!! I think they will pay via E-gold !!! Yoo HOo !!!
jtaylor75
I e-mailed gilby for confirmation of this rumor, but like an ######, I did so without checking all three sites. It's righ there on Opt-In-Pays' homepage. ah.gif ah.gif(

They edited id10t? LOL
wantumbucks
QUOTE (jtaylor75 @ Dec 17 2002, 02:24 PM)
I e-mailed gilby for confirmation of this rumor, but like an ######, I did so without checking all three sites. It's righ there on Opt-In-Pays' homepage. ah.gif ah.gif(

Don't need to email for confirmation. Login, go to account, and you will see it where they post the news.

They also sent an email regarding this.
Ramsses
I don't like e-gold anymore!
They blocked my acocunt and they don't listen to my e-mails an phonecalls...
tipsy
QUOTE (jtaylor75 @ Dec 17 2002, 09:24 AM)
I e-mailed gilby for confirmation of this rumor

we news moderator's will always try to confirm all stories that we post. That's what you will see in the quote's is the webmaster's own writing. We will never post rumor's up here in the news folder aa.gif
i m gr8
QUOTE (Ramsses @ Dec 17 2002, 09:18 PM)
I don't like e-gold anymore!
They blocked my acocunt and they don't listen to my e-mails an phonecalls...

hello
as far as i have heard egold never block account
they sometime put balance limit on it then you check your information in egold and then email them to call you and they i will call you to verify and put off the balance limit , it happened to me once but now is sorted out ab.gif
Gilby
QUOTE (tipsy @ Dec 15 2002, 02:45 PM)
his paypal account has been locked by paypal which means all November earnings can not be paid at this time as well as any advertising purchased on Friday can not be processed

Actually, November earnings were sent on December 8 for Opt-in-Pays (and Dec. 1 for LinkBurst and Links2cash), so most people got paid. Just those that don't have their account set to automatically claim it and didn't claim it yet, did not receive their earnings.

Also, there was no advertising purchased on Friday until I got the new payment system in place. Those purchases were processed as well as all PayPal transactions leading up to the account being locked. PayPal didn't allow payments to go through after they locked it and showed this message when someone got to the payment page: "This recipient is currently unable to receive money."

Currently, it looks like my PayPal account will be locked for a while, if not forever. They claim that they'll hold on to my balance (it was at about $1300 as I transferred money out the day earlier) for 180 days to cover any chargebacks that may occur and then release it to me.

The main thing I need now is the details of the recent mass payments I sent out for everyone's earnings. I am completely locked out of the account and can't view any transactions or anything. Without the mass payment details, I do not really know who actually received the money sent to them and who did not, so for those that did not claim their money, I will not be able to pay them until I get the transaction data from PayPal.

I'm not really concerned about the rest of it, as PayPal has basically lost my business. Apparently over a thousand dollars in transactions fees per month isn't that important to them to keep me as their customer. There are lots of other options to pay our members. While I have not decided yet what the payment methods will be, these ones look like good posibilities: moneybookers.com, qchex.com, and egold.
JE22665
aa.gif I guess I was a lucky one who got paid for Nov. clicks. My Pay Pal account shows that I was paid from Opt-In-Pays on Dec. 8th. The same day the Opt account shows they were processing payment to me.

aa.gif I also got paid on Dec. 1st from Links2Cash for Nov.

I guess this is going to effect our December clicks. Hope everyone got paid for Novembers clicks!


Happy Holidays to All
pe7e
Sure hope they fix things I got 500 + members in opt in.
Mango88
I hope E-gold will be added as a payment method if PayPal can't be used anymore..
GRL VenCap
I'm really hoping for egold

or perhaps reduce Quarterly Check Option Payout to $10 aa.gif
GRL VenCap
or consolidate and/or transfer earnings from L2C and LB into OPT to make the $10 or $20 Check Payout ?? aj.gif
3564
I am so sorry for you Gilby, I know how hard it is to be threated unfairly.

I hope you will stay in business because we need people who are to be trusted.
We love you !!! XXXX
doobster
is this for sure? because i received my payment for november from them
Gilby
QUOTE (doobster @ Dec 17 2002, 04:00 PM)
is this for sure? because i received my payment for november from them

Payments for november earnings were sent before this happened.
Gilby
QUOTE (GRL VenCap @ Dec 17 2002, 03:31 PM)
I'm really hoping for egold

or perhaps reduce Quarterly Check Option Payout to $10 aa.gif


or consolidate and/or transfer earnings from L2C and LB into OPT to make the $10 or $20 Check Payout ?? aj.gif

With the discovery of qchex.com, I will probably be able to lower it and I may add an option to combine all 3 payments for that. I'm still looking to see how qchex works and all though.
ayumi6926
I hope that e-gold,stormpay payment is permitted at least

Is "only paypal" insuitable for international members?
doobster
what about the possibility of using anypay?
EStewart
There'a another one called Bright Pay. It's pretty new but it's kinda like PayPal and International members can use it to. Fees are practically nill also. ab.gif
fernyburn
What I dont understand is, last week when we had all the furore about paypal, and the GPTR industry, it was written that Paypal understood what GPTRE was and how it worked, so by freezing optinpays ect, the situation is still as bad as it was, and again the whole business is in danger.....

I have been looking at brightpay too, out of all the other systems this one definatly looks the best, with moneybookers, and netpay close behind
princessbbf2
QUOTE (Gilby @ Dec 17 2002, 06:42 PM)
.... Without the mass payment details, I do not really know who actually received the money sent to them and who did not, so for those that did not claim their money, I will not be able to pay them until I get the transaction data from PayPal.....

just letting you know, i got my Links2Cash & Linkburst payments, but not OptInPays

(my account usually accepts payments automatically)

hope you get things sorted soon



btw, Netpay looks pretty good
Ramsses
QUOTE (i m gr8 @ Dec 18 2002, 01:19 AM)
QUOTE (Ramsses @ Dec 17 2002, 09:18 PM)
I don't like e-gold anymore!
They blocked my acocunt and they don't listen to my e-mails an phonecalls...

hello
as far as i have heard egold never block account
they sometime put balance limit on it then you check your information in egold and then email them to call you and they i will call you to verify and put off the balance limit , it happened to me once but now is sorted out ab.gif

Someone really tried to hack my E-gold acocunt so now they blocked it and they don't want to unblock it!
pe7e
As you people know I'm a big with Opt-In-Pays, wrote them yesterday this is what they said to me.
pe7e wrote:
> I have a downline of over 500 members. What is the status of your
> PayPal problem? What can I tell them on my website?

I think PayPal may be out for good as a payment option for us. There are
lot of alternatives though and we'll try to find one (or more) that will
be a suitable replacement for everyone. We have not yet decided what
we'll use.

- Gilby
wirp
I hope they will use e-gold too. Or at least moneybookers or stormpay....
iceblink2
I beg you gilby please try to get paypal back......I dont want to forfit my earnings but I do not have ANY other method of getting my money. Could you at least pay us what we are owed if you make a switch?

ac.gif
Pia
Even if you get PayPal option back could you still please consider e-gold as an option since I can't get my PayPal verified and I've had to denie all the payments so far ah.gif
pe7e
I hope they use E-gold. ai.gif
Spartaman
Paypal isnt all that bad, all this GPTR industry stuff happened AFTER eBay bought it... But the paypal people are nice (well, at least to me) they helped me sort out a problem with one of my buyers.

Gilby, email me (mikeeyyman@attbi.com) I have an idea for a new payment system.
Mango88
QUOTE (pe7e @ Dec 18 2002, 07:38 PM)
I hope they use E-gold. ai.gif

Same here aj.gif
a3member
QUOTE (Mango88 @ Dec 19 2002, 10:10 AM)
QUOTE (pe7e @ Dec 18 2002, 07:38 PM)
I hope they use E-gold. ai.gif

Same here aj.gif

Me too. ai.gif

I'm really hoping for E-gold and hope E-gold will be added as a payment method.

Oh..I got paid from Opt-in-pays,Links2Cash,LinkBurst for Nov. aa.gif
Links2Cash
I know this is sorta off-topic for Opt-In-Pays & PayPal, but I kinda wish Opt-In & the other 2 wouldn't pay out monthly! Or better yet, would offer me the choice. When I started GPTR I really liked getting their payments monthly; at least I felt like I was getting something each month! But now I'm getting paid by other programs, I wish I could let my earnings from Gilby Prod. add up a little bit, rather than get .50 here, $1.32 there, etc.
Gilby - since you won't be using the PayPal mass payment system, maybe you could make "hold payment for this month" an option?
Just my .02 worth aa.gif
ILostMyTrueLove
i hope they dont use stormpay.

they charge 4.4% plus 39 cents

egold is good with 1% charge.
papnille
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I know this is sorta off-topic for Opt-In-Pays & PayPal, but I kinda wish Opt-In & the other 2 wouldn't pay out monthly! Or better yet, would offer me the choice.


They do offer you this option. You can click on the "Hold Payment" button in your member profile.

Which is exactly what I did. And which means I chose to let accumulate my October and November earnings with Opt-in-Pays and Links2Cash, as well as November earnings with LinkBurst. You know what happened afterwards...
shannelle1
QUOTE (iceblink2 @ Dec 18 2002, 07:50 PM)
I beg you gilby please try to get paypal back......I dont want to forfit my earnings but I do not have ANY other method of getting my money. Could you at least pay us what we are owed if you make a switch?

ac.gif

I thought e-gold was open to everyone? Am I wrong?
MOMANTPAT
ar.gif It is to bad I can not tell them I told you so....I sent them an email asking if they were going to be affected when this all first started. I got an email back telling me how good a relationship they had with pay pal and that they would never be frozen....my parents always told me never say never. Pat
ILostMyTrueLove
egold is open to everyone. exchange rates run from 4% to whatever

and stormpay is owned by an MLM bigshot and I dont trust him. He hides this fact from all stormpay members which accounts for the high fees.

in order for a US citizen like me to join moneybrokers, i need to get a credit card to fund moneybrokers and they also have fees which are higher than paypal.

my suggestion is to find a person who doesnt have an account frozen with paypal (a business account) and do a mass pay with that for all members.

there are a couple of international programs such as cashforaction who does this and no problems have ever arisen.
shebegal
QUOTE (tipsy @ Dec 16 2002, 04:45 AM)
In an email to it's member's the webmaster of Opt-In-Pays explains that his paypal account has been locked by paypal which means all November earnings can not be paid at this time as well as any advertising purchased on Friday can not be processed They are looking into this situation to find out why their account was locked as well as looking into other ways to pay members.

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2002-12-14: Our PayPal account has been locked by PayPal. We are attempting to find out from PayPal why this has happened and how to unlock it, but so far we have not heard anything. Having the account locked has caused all payments from November earnings that were still pending to be cancelled. It has also caused us to not be able to process payments for advertising purchases on Friday. In response to this, we have implemented a new payment processor to accept payments by credit card and echeck and that is now live! While we are attempting to get our PayPal account back to normal, we will be looking at the many alternatives for sending out your earnings in the future. It's back to business as usual. :-) We apoligize for the inconvenience this has caused!

av.gif I emailed opt-in and told them of different avenues they could use and ai.gif Why they and others like themselves have been locked out. ar.gif guess they don't like informational and advice from their members. ah.gif ao.gif ad.gif
shebegal
Gilby
QUOTE (shebegal @ Dec 21 2002, 12:54 PM)
av.gif I emailed opt-in and told them of different avenues they could use and ai.gif Why they and others like themselves have been locked out. ar.gif guess they don't like informational and advice from their members. ah.gif ao.gif ad.gif
shebegal

I have gotten a lot of suggestions from members and have read them all, but I'll admit that I haven't had a chance to respond to every email I got about it. Sorry about that.
shebegal
QUOTE (Gilby @ Dec 22 2002, 03:08 AM)
QUOTE (shebegal @ Dec 21 2002, 12:54 PM)
av.gif I emailed opt-in and told them of different avenues they could use and ai.gif Why they and others like themselves have been locked out.  <_<  guess they don't like informational and advice from their members. ah.gif  :blink:  :lol:
shebegal

I have gotten a lot of suggestions from members and have read them all, but I'll admit that I haven't had a chance to respond to every email I got about it. Sorry about that.

ac.gif [B]okeydokey but it was worth while thinking about. Using other avenues such as Stormpay, Netpay or such. Thanks for response aa.gif
Gilby
QUOTE (MOMANTPAT @ Dec 21 2002, 11:52 AM)
ar.gif  It is to bad I can not tell them I told you so....I sent them an email asking if they were going to be affected when this all first started.  I got an email back telling me how good a relationship they had with pay pal and that they would never be frozen....my parents always told me never say never.     Pat

My account was not locked because of it being a gpt site or thought of as an mlm or anything. It's because of fraudulent purchases that were made with stolen credit cards, hacked PayPal accounts, and such. PayPal's solution to that is to remove the high risk merchants where these stolen credit cards would be used, instead of doing something to prevent the use of stolen credit cards to begin with. PayPal should be doing more to help us catch these fraudulent purchases instead of leaving us in the dark about it all.
shebegal
[B] :ph34r: FYI:
Did you know that paypal is covering their hinnies too? They are in the same leaque too with the downlines etc. Maybe that is why they hooked up and let the name of Ebay cover them. It is sad that they don't take care of their customers with email notices when likes of this comes along! I have been with them for years. I am a small fry but one thing for sure; be.gif WHEN I get my own business up and running...paypal will not be on my money listing ad.gif
ILostMyTrueLove
sorry, i forgot my business account at paypal has to accept all.

i was thinking of the personal accounts.

i hope paypal comes up with a better solution such as contacting the webmaster or business person first before freezing accounts
mdegryse
Payment methods:

Paypal:

sucks I had also troubles with paypal so I stopped using it.

Stormpay:

they are thieves, I made a deposit with my credit card for 75$ and they charged me 8.85$

Moneybookers:

if you don't login within 2 weeks and you did not send a fax to proof your identity they close your account.

E-gold:

Still the cheapiest way to put money on the net, I'm using icegold to put money on my e-gold account and they charge only 4%. And I had never troubles with it. Once my account was blocked by e-gold but after a mail they phoned me and send me a letter to me by first class air-mail. They really have a good service. (my account balance was then 56cent and it costed them a lot more to phone me and send me a letter)

Mario
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