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cdntimbit

There has been a lot of print in many different forums about AYS.
They were boycotted for a while on GPTBoycott.com. The boycott was
lifted but the controversy seems to go on. The latest controversy
is the canceling and banning of all members from Vietnam.
I have never heard of anyone who has been paid from AYS in at least
seven (yes that is 7!!!) months. And although I agree with cheat-links,
I can't agree with a penalty of $50. That's like giving a life term for
Jaywalking.
I will admit that I am biased in my writing this. I hit a cheat-link.
I had gotten behind and was trying to catch up. I was in the wrong and I
sent an e-mail to Ays with-in seconds of hitting the cheat link explaining
this. After not receiving an answer in two weeks, I sent another e-mail.
Both e-mails were polite and I just asked for a response. It has now
been over a month and still no response. I know they are a large site
and very busy, but considering I put every penny I earned back into their
site ($170 on Gold member and ads) I think I deserve an answer not the
snub I have gotten.
A business works when the two sides work together. Yet it seems to me
that AYS is in this for themselves and screw anyone that disagrees with
them. I think you will see them stick around until the ad dollars dry
up, and that will be the last you see of them.
And be careful that your country isn't the next to be knock off AYSs'
pay list.
But then again this is just my opinion. I have been a member of over a
hundred sites in the last two years. AYS is the only site that I have
felt strongly enough about to express this type of disappointment about.
A business has to be accountable to its' customers and employees or it
ceases to be a credible business. Please boycott this site. Or boycott me.
But don't ignore the problem. Make AYS accountable for their actions.

Sincerely,
Tim
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mommyoncemore
Tim,
I can understand someone being frustrated over clicking on a cheat link. I don't know of a site that will reinstate the money, even if you email them right away (if some do - power to you). Not receiving a response after two weeks would be very frustrating, but I don't know if that is grounds for boycott - just my thought.

My only suggestion would be go to their forum... In the forum is a folder for people to post payouts - and there are quite a few. Also, with the WM's so busy with the cheat link situation, so the forum is the best place to get an answer to a question.

Just my two cents - going back to my clicking now....

cdntimbit
QUOTE(mommyoncemore @ Jul 29 2004, 12:17 AM)
Tim,
I can understand someone being frustrated over clicking on a cheat link.  I don't know of a site that will reinstate the money, even if you email them right away (if some do - power to you).  Not receiving a response after two weeks would be very frustrating, but I don't know if that is grounds for boycott - just my thought.
 
My only suggestion would be go to their forum...  In the forum is a folder for people to post payouts - and there are quite a few.  Also, with the WM's so busy with the cheat link situation, so the forum is the best place to get an answer to a question. 

Just my two cents - going back to my clicking now....
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Please read the whole letter. The cheat-link is only part of the problem.
Bluedahlia
QUOTE(cdntimbit @ Jul 29 2004, 12:05 AM)
Please read the whole letter. The cheat-link is only part of the problem.
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Hi there,

It is hard for the admin to answer emails with such a large membership. The fastest way to get a response is through their forum. As far as the Vietnam situation is concerned, it has been resolved positively for the honest members of that Country. Hope this helps.
amir21
Dear Friend

My cousin has been paid by Allyousubmitters about a month ago. So, I believe that this site is a paying site and will pay its all members.
sangmane
ays is my first entry in gptr (1 month ago). 4 days after join, they delete my account without notice. why i was deleted? i don't know. no reply to my mail. i tried to join their forum but i don't receive the activation link (not being approved). yeah, coz i've been ays members for only 4 days, i just forget it and signed up with another program.

after join with gptr and see posts about ays, i know now, what kind of WM Linder is.
not a good ptr to join with.
gmyers
I would join their forum thats where I always get answers for problems or questions I have. And you can see on there a topic where lots of people have been paid. I'm on it I've been paid once, waiting on my second payout. They take a while but they do pay. As for the cheatlink I know how you feel I clicked one too
it taught me to be a lot more careful reading my emails. smile.gif
AysAdministrator
QUOTE(cdntimbit @ Jul 28 2004, 11:58 PM)
There has been a lot of print in many different forums about AYS.
They were boycotted for a while on GPTBoycott.com. The boycott was
lifted but the controversy seems to go on. The latest controversy
is the canceling and banning of all members from Vietnam.
I have never heard of anyone who has been paid from AYS in at least
seven (yes that is 7!!!) months. And although I agree with cheat-links,
I can't agree with a penalty of $50. That's like giving a life term for
Jaywalking.
I will admit that I am biased in my writing this. I hit a cheat-link.
I had gotten behind and was trying to catch up. I was in the wrong and I
sent an e-mail to Ays with-in seconds of hitting the cheat link explaining
this. After not receiving an answer in two weeks, I sent another e-mail.
Both e-mails were polite and I just asked for a response. It has now
been over a month and still no response. I know they are a large site
and very busy, but considering I put every penny I earned back into their
site ($170 on Gold member and ads) I think I deserve an answer not the
snub I have gotten.
A business works when the two sides work together. Yet it seems to me
that AYS is in this for themselves and screw anyone that disagrees with
them. I think you will see them stick around until the ad dollars dry
up, and that will be the last you see of them.
And be careful that your country isn't the next to be knock off AYSs'
pay list.
But then again this is just my opinion. I have been a member of over a
hundred sites in the last two years. AYS is the only site that I have
felt strongly enough about to express this type of disappointment about.
A business has to be accountable to its' customers and employees or it
ceases? to be a credible business. Please boycott this site. Or boycott me.
But don't ignore the problem. Make AYS accountable for their actions.

Sincerely,
Tim
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Hello Tim,

I am sorry that you are angry.

I did indeed receive your email:


QUOTE
username: cdntimbit

subject_type: Other

bquestion_type: Cheat Link

message_type: Hi,
I hit the cheat link by mistake. I've
gotten behind on my e-mails and trying to catch-up I was careless. I have been with you for almost a year and have always been and honest member. I have also put everything I've made back into AYS.
Could you see your way to give me another chance. I promise to be more careful in the future.
Sincerely,
Tim



So - with your request - you expected to be excluded?

Tired? Careless? You must have been to miss the warnings of the email:

QUOTE
subject: DISREGARD THIS EMAIL



text:

Please Do Not click the link in this email.





NOTICE: this is NOT an AYS 5 cent paid email.





If you click the link in this email - your AYS earnings will automatically be reduced by $50.00.






This action will not be reversed under any circumstances.


























#############################
#############################
######## ACTION AREA ###########
#############################
#############################

*** Link located here ***


This was designed so that you would need to scroll thru the text - which is very clear - in order to reach the link below this huge block ACTION AREA.

Obviously you missed all of the warning text - so I will bold in red the most imperative portion regarding the email that you sent and EXPECTED a reply:



This action will not be reversed under any circumstances.


Controversy continues?

You bet it does - you see Individuals seem to continue to NOT take responsibility for their own actions.


QUOTE
name: Personal details edited

username: cdntimbit

subject_type: Other

bquestion_type: Good-bye

message_type: I am sorry we couldn't work out the problem I e-mailed you twice about. As you will not answer my e-mails I have put the following statement into several forums and can assure you will never get another referral from the learntoearn or lotsaloot network.
All I? asked for was a response from you. But I quess you were just to busy . I wish we could have worked this out. But not; so this is my statement I sent out;

There has been a lot of print in many different forums about AYS.
They were boycotted for a while on GPTBoycott.com. The boycott was
lifted but the controversy seems to go on. The latest controversy
is the canceling and banning of all members from Vietnam.
I have never heard of anyone who has been paid from AYS in at least
seven (yes that is 7!!!) months. And although I agree with cheat-links,
I can't agree with a penalty of $50. That's like giving a life term for
Jaywalking.
I will admit that I am biased in my writing this. I hit a cheat-link.
I had gotten behind and was trying to catch up. I was in the wrong and I
sent an e-mail to Ays with-in seconds of hitting the cheat link explaining
this. After not receiving an answer in two weeks, I sent another e-mail.
Both e-mails were polite and I just asked for a response. It has now
been over a month and still no response. I know they are a large site
and very busy, but considering I put every penny I earned back into their
site ($170 on Gold member and ads) I think I deserve an answer not the
snub I have gotten.
A business works when the two sides work together. Yet it seems to me
that AYS is in this for themselves and screw anyone that disagrees with
them. I think you will see them stick around until the ad dollars dry
up, and that will be the last you see of them.
And be careful that your country isn't the next to be knock off AYSs'
pay list.
But then again this is just my opinion. I have been a member of over a
hundred sites in the last two years. AYS is the only site that I have
felt strongly enough about to express this type of disappointment about.
A business has to be accountable to its' customers and employees or it
ceases? to be a credible business. Please boycott this site. Or boycott me.
But don't ignore the problem. Make AYS accountable for their actions.

Sincerely,
Tim? ?

P.S.
Have you never made a mistake. If not,
I apologize.




At minimum - you have at least followed thru with your THREAT .

I did my duty - I apologize that you had a problem with YOUR duty.

I do believe however, that most Advertisers appreciate MY consistant desire to offer them the best unique TRUE readers available on the net.

Hopefully - my personal response to you now - makes you feel a little better.

wink.gif

Sharon
AysAdministrator
QUOTE(sangmane @ Jul 29 2004, 06:13 AM)
ays is my first entry in gptr (1 month ago). 4 days after join, they delete my account without notice. why i was deleted? i don't know. no reply to my mail. i tried to join their forum but i don't receive the activation link (not being approved). yeah, coz i've been ays members for only 4 days, i just forget it and signed up with another program.

after join with gptr and see posts about ays, i know now, what kind of WM Linder is.
not a good ptr to join with.
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IF you are referring to a program that DOES indeed take action against MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS - you would be correct - DO NOT JOIN AYS.


AYS Same PC Report: 7.7.04

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Personal details edited



Is there anything else I can do for you?

Sharon
dom45
he he laugh.gif
AysAdministrator
QUOTE(dom45 @ Jul 29 2004, 07:45 AM)
he he  laugh.gif
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Hi Dom45,

What is up with this?

Are you asking for your personal AYS situation to be publicly displayed?

Sharon
dom45
QUOTE
Personal details edited


I'm laugh about this
I'm not member AYS and my personal situation is ok
AysAdministrator
QUOTE(dom45 @ Jul 29 2004, 07:58 AM)
I'm laugh about this
I'm not member AYS and my personal situation is ok
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I was simply asking to clarify your motive -I did not see your unedited post - Thanks.

You are not an ACTIVE member of AYS - Glad to here that you are personally ok.

Username: Personal details edited
Email: Personal details edited
Signup:Date & Time: 2004-02-20 10:03:35

Shall we continue this debate?

Sharon
puiwaa
i see that AysAdministrator always post here, but why only get 93 posts???
dom45
sharon!
you can write about me laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
kglaser
BAM! cool.gif
Sand
when your cousin requested payout?

QUOTE(amir21 @ Jul 29 2004, 06:13 PM)
Dear Friend

My cousin has been paid by Allyousubmitters about a month ago. So, I believe that? this site is a paying site and will pay its all members.
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soxfan44883
I have also had trouble with AYS. I requested payout in January and after several inquiries I suddenly had my account deleted. They have not responded to my queries. I now see how these sites make out. You do you part. Then when you reach payout they look for a reason not to pay or make you wait for an excessive(well beyond TOS) and then delete you.
I have wated 10 Month for Tasias to pay. They keep changing TOS. THEY DON'T PAY.

I have also had payout problems with Annies(6 months)Acadian(they deleted me),Cosmic Wealth( I know of no one that ever got paid by them), Gimmee mai;(5 months), Hauling Cash (over 3 months). Also PC paid Clicks Paid email 4 fun, Sunrise and z-net cash.

I have particpated with PTRs for 14 months and to date have received$21.02. The above mentioned accounts owe me over $800.

There should be some legal recourse for this FRAUD
AysAdministrator
QUOTE(dom45 @ Jul 29 2004, 08:15 AM)
sharon!
you can write about me  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Actually, your attitude towards YOUR actions is apalling.

Especially for a GPF senior member. wink.gif

You asked - you shall receive.

Username: domino

06/11/2004 15:09 5 Cent Paid Email Ad To All Members
-50.00000

THIS IS A 5 CENT PAID EMAIL ( R )


? FREE Membership
? Database purged DAILY (20+ day inactives)
? Get Paid for Reading Your eMail
? Get Paid for Clicking on ads
? Get Paid For Running Our AutoSurf traffic exchange
? Refer others and get paid .02 per Referral
? LOW $10.00 Dollar Payout for Free Members!
? Cash Only Emails - no point emails
? No Paid Emails less than 1 Cent
? No unpaid emails - even admin news emails are paid
? Huge Paid To Click Section
? Five Upgraded Memberships Available
? Assorted Contests, Random Payouts and Surprises!
? Site Forum with Polls and Forum Only Contests
? Send in your Birth Day/Month for a Bday Surprise!
? 5 Ref levels of commission under you
Level 1 - 15%
Level 2 - 10%
Level 3 - 5%
Level 4 - 5%
Level 5 - 5%


://members.chello.pl/s.grabowski/misty.html

Which is currently displaying ValuSearch.

Signup for the ValuSearch2004 Affiliate Program - Low $2 Payout!

://www.valusearch2004.com/signup.php?referal=domino




In short:

You knowingly redeemed an AYS ad to all - once approved and sent - you changed the page to this search page.

I consider this a fraudulent act.

Your account was suspended.

You attempted to abuse the progam and it's members, and you currently feel that this is a laughable situation.

I find it SAD.

Sharon
puiwaa
Hauling Cash???? you request payout for eg???
dom45
QUOTE(AysAdministrator @ Jul 29 2004, 09:31 PM)
Actually, your attitude towards YOUR actions is apalling.

Especially for a GPF senior member. wink.gif

You asked - you shall receive.

Username: domino

06/11/2004 15:09 5 Cent Paid Email Ad To All Members
-50.00000

THIS IS A 5 CENT PAID EMAIL ( R )
? FREE Membership
? Database purged DAILY (20+ day inactives)
? Get Paid for Reading Your eMail
? Get Paid for Clicking on ads
? Get Paid For Running Our AutoSurf traffic exchange
? Refer others and get paid .02 per Referral
? LOW $10.00 Dollar Payout for Free Members!
? Cash Only Emails - no point emails
? No Paid Emails less than 1 Cent
? No unpaid emails - even admin news emails are paid
? Huge Paid To Click Section
? Five Upgraded Memberships Available
? Assorted Contests, Random Payouts and Surprises!
? Site Forum with Polls and Forum Only Contests
? Send in your Birth Day/Month for a Bday Surprise!
? 5 Ref levels of commission under you
Level 1 - 15%
Level 2 - 10%
Level 3 -  5% 
Level 4 - 5%
Level 5 - 5% 
://members.chello.pl/s.grabowski/misty.html

Which is currently displaying ValuSearch.

Signup for the ValuSearch2004 Affiliate Program - Low $2 Payout!

://www.valusearch2004.com/signup.php?referal=domino
In short:

You knowingly redeemed an AYS ad to all - once approved and sent - you changed the page to this search page.

I consider this a fraudulent act.

Your account was suspended.

You attempted to abuse the progam and it's members, and you currently feel that this is a laughable situation.

I find it SAD.

Sharon
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


and what about?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
AysAdministrator
QUOTE(dom45 @ Jul 29 2004, 08:43 AM)
laugh.gif? laugh.gif? laugh.gif?
and what about?

laugh.gif? laugh.gif? laugh.gif
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Funny that you are lauging about the fact that you are a PERSONAL ATTACK EDITED ?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMM

AYS members awaiting payout - please note this as an ADVERTISEMENT - for the payout delay - as it is a SMALL portion.

Can we say:

Thank you dom45!

Sharon
dom45
am I thief? noooooooooooo
ays is thief and scam
why I can't redeem search ad?
AysAdministrator
QUOTE(dom45 @ Jul 29 2004, 08:55 AM)
am I thief? noooooooooooo
ays is thief and scam
why I can't redeem search ad?
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NOOOOOOOO - you aren't a PERSONAL ATTACK EDITED <-sarcatic statement wink.gif

WHEN you redeemed for your Ad to ALL - it clearly states - NO Search Sites - dang - you didn't read that?

Nah - I think you read it just fine - or you would not have SWITCHED the ad once it was sent.


DONE with this communication - Thank you for your time.

wink.gif

Sharon
teedy
QUOTE(dom45 @ Jul 29 2004, 11:55 PM)
am I thief? noooooooooooo
ays is thief and scam
why I can't redeem search ad?
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Well if you don't know the answer to that question all I can say is
ohmy.gif huh.gif rolleyes.gif
BobbiePolk
Do get 'em Sharon. Don't ya just love how they rant and rave about how dishonest AYS is, yet you can come back with actual PROOF about how dishonest they were.
Now, for all you ranters and ravers, where is YOUR proof?

Some of you really need to grow up and get a grip.
dom45
QUOTE(AysAdministrator @ Jul 29 2004, 10:18 PM)
NOOOOOOOO - you aren't a PERSONAL ATTACK EDITED <-sarcatic statement wink.gif

WHEN you redeemed for your Ad to ALL - it clearly states - NO Search Sites - dang - you didn't read that?

Nah - I think you read it just fine - or you would not have SWITCHED the ad once it was sent.
DONE with this communication - Thank you for your time.

wink.gif

Sharon
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I clicked and earned on ays for search ad, and in finally moment you changed terms and not allowed search ad
this is scam
BobbiePolk
No, it isn't a scam. The scam was when you tried to switch the link to the ad you sent and all that other good stuff. in.
I wonder about people sometimes....

With that being said....Good-bye, and have a nice day.
dom45
AYS is scam and EOT
many people say it
AysAdministrator
QUOTE(dom45 @ Jul 29 2004, 09:40 AM)
AYS is scam and EOT
many people say it
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Yes - many people say it - and I have many documentations to prove otherwise.

wink.gif

Now, here is when freebiesite steps into the thread and boldly points out:

AYS is 7 months behind in payouts.......

sure hoping that lightbulb clicks to 'on' soon.

wink.gif

Sharon

edited to add:

ok - she stepped back out - can I hope that the lightswitch is in motion?

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teedy
QUOTE(dom45 @ Jul 30 2004, 12:40 AM)
AYS is scam and EOT
many people say it
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Your right MANY people say it & of those MANY people Sharon or Linder show us the reason that those MANY people cry scam

"Sour grapes" because they got caught out for trying to pull a fast one on a
honest site, rolleyes.gif


BobbiePolk
Sharon, don't forget to throw in how they always bring up the ad prices and such....

rolleyes.gif Like they actually know the financial status of AYS.....
Wily1North
So, we are to understand AYS is 8 months behind in payouts because a few people sold their own ad redemptions? Is that what you're telling us? I thought it was due to writing out checks by hand, then I think it was taking time to scrutinize everyone's accounts, then it was the time it took to look at the cheatlink thing, now it's because someone changed their ad to a search.

Lightbulb's still off here, sorry. dry.gif
BobbiePolk
I give up....not worth my time or energy. I have more important things to do....like go click some links. Yes, on AYS! smile.gif
gizzy
Sharon I have an idea maybe if you would quit posting childish remarks and cocky answers here maybe just maybe you could get some payments done a little quicker, maybe 5 months instead of 7 laugh.gif

And don't go looking for my account to delete me or give me a negative balance don't belong to ays.
investkid
QUOTE(AysAdministrator @ Jul 29 2004, 09:47 AM)
Yes - many people say it - and I have many documentations to prove otherwise.

wink.gif

Now, here is when freebiesite steps into the thread and boldly points out:

AYS is 7 months behind in payouts.......

sure hoping that lightbulb clicks to 'on' soon.
wink.gif

Sharon

edited to add:

ok - she stepped back out - can I hope that the lightswitch is in motion?

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(emphasis added by investkid)

Sharon,

What is a childish post like this one supposed to prove?

And by the way, AYS is 7 months behind in payouts. Or maybe the December 2003 and January 2004 are all finished and those members all paid? If not, then AYS is 7 months behind in payouts.


Jeanene
QUOTE(gizzy @ Jul 29 2004, 11:41 AM)
Sharon I have an idea maybe if you would quit posting childish remarks and cocky answers here maybe just maybe you could get some payments done a little quicker, maybe 5 months instead of 7  laugh.gif

And don't go looking for my account to delete me or give me a negative balance don't belong to ays.
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ok we have had a discussion about combative posts before gizzy you say you do not do that I guess from your rude comments here you do!

Look AYS may not be perfect

but looks like your not either so for the future keep the cocky out of your remarks and maybe we can all get along better


jeanene
investkid
QUOTE(gizzy @ Jul 29 2004, 10:41 AM)
And don't go looking for my account to delete me or give me a negative balance don't belong to ays.
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AYS has never deleted an account for "unwelcomed" comments to my knowledge.

gizzy
QUOTE(Jeanene @ Jul 29 2004, 11:53 PM)
ok we have had a discussion about combative posts before gizzy? you say? you do not do that I guess from your rude comments here you do!

Look AYS may not be perfect

but looks like your not either so for the future keep the cocky out of your remarks and maybe we can all get along better
jeanene
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Oh this is a public forum and I had a comment for sharon I posted it.
And your point is?? And I never ever said I was perfect. And the last time I checked you are not my mother so please do not tell me what to keep out of my post I do not try and tell you what to post and what not to post. Thanks now!! ANd I do not feel like getting in a bickering match with you, so please don't start the post was directed to sharon not you so what are you worried about?

Edited to add that the post I made does make sense though don't it?
gizzy
QUOTE(investkid @ Jul 29 2004, 11:56 PM)
AYS has never deleted an account for "unwelcomed" comments to my knowledge.
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There is one around here somewhere, I think?
Kaneda
QUOTE(dom45 @ Jul 29 2004, 08:55 AM)
am I thief? noooooooooooo
ays is thief and scam
why I can't redeem search ad?
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You can't redeem for a search ad because you don't make the rules. Apparently you don't read, either. It's right on the submission how can you miss it?

you're just someone else who can't follow the rules. You do what YOU want then say scam when you get caught. It's your fault bud, everyone can clearly see that. Admit it.

Kan
Kaneda
QUOTE(soxfan44883 @ Jul 29 2004, 08:31 AM)
I have also had trouble with AYS.  I requested payout in January and after several inquiries I suddenly had my account deleted.  They have not responded to my queries. I now see how these sites make out. You do you part. Then when you reach payout they look for a reason not to pay or make you wait for an excessive(well beyond TOS) and then delete you.
I have wated 10 Month for Tasias to pay. They keep changing TOS. THEY DON'T PAY.

I have also had payout problems with Annies(6 months)Acadian(they deleted me),Cosmic Wealth( I know of no one that ever got paid by them), Gimmee mai;(5 months), Hauling Cash (over 3 months). Also PC paid Clicks Paid email 4 fun, Sunrise and z-net cash.

I have particpated with PTRs for 14 months and to date have received$21.02. The above mentioned accounts owe me over $800. 

There should be some legal recourse for this FRAUD
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Sort of sounds like you went inactive. admin could tell you but that would be my guess.

Kan
aerogeek
From what I've read they only delete people who get nasty or threatening in their posts. Speaking your mind is one thing. Insulting someone's parentage or telling them to do something physically impossible to most is another.
investkid
QUOTE(gizzy @ Jul 29 2004, 11:08 AM)
There is one around here somewhere, I think?
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You wouldn't happen to have the link, would you?

But, even if true, once in 2 years of existence? Once, doesn't make it a rule or a scaring tactic from a WM in my book. It makes it an exception.

Even, if you had been a member of AYS, I wouldn't have been worried that you would loose your account based on that one post.

Kaneda
QUOTE(cdntimbit @ Jul 28 2004, 11:58 PM)
There has been a lot of print in many different forums about AYS.
They were boycotted for a while on GPTBoycott.com. The boycott was
lifted but the controversy seems to go on. The latest controversy
is the canceling and banning of all members from Vietnam.
I have never heard of anyone who has been paid from AYS in at least
seven (yes that is 7!!!) months. And although I agree with cheat-links,
I can't agree with a penalty of $50. That's like giving a life term for
Jaywalking.
I will admit that I am biased in my writing this. I hit a cheat-link.
I had gotten behind and was trying to catch up. I was in the wrong and I
sent an e-mail to Ays with-in seconds of hitting the cheat link explaining
this. After not receiving an answer in two weeks, I sent another e-mail.
Both e-mails were polite and I just asked for a response. It has now
been over a month and still no response. I know they are a large site
and very busy, but considering I put every penny I earned back into their
site ($170 on Gold member and ads) I think I deserve an answer not the
snub I have gotten.
A business works when the two sides work together. Yet it seems to me
that AYS is in this for themselves and screw anyone that disagrees with
them. I think you will see them stick around until the ad dollars dry
up, and that will be the last you see of them.
And be careful that your country isn't the next to be knock off AYSs'
pay list.
But then again this is just my opinion. I have been a member of over a
hundred sites in the last two years. AYS is the only site that I have
felt strongly enough about to express this type of disappointment about.
A business has to be accountable to its' customers and employees or it
ceases  to be a credible business. Please boycott this site. Or boycott me.
But don't ignore the problem. Make AYS accountable for their actions.

Sincerely,
Tim
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so in other words, Tim. You screwed up. You know you screwed up and admit it. You expect to be absolved. you don't care about anyone else that paid any money that clicked a cheat link and has to deal with the consequences. you expect to be treated special. Anyone else that clicked it because they were tired, that's ok, right? But not you. Nice and selfish. You don't get what you want you're going to boycott. lol! Now there's a well thought, adult solution, eh?

well Tim I'm sorry you seem to feel you're so much better than everyone else that clicked it. ays is a strict site, if you've been around as long as you say you have you'd KNOW that. I hope you don't think you're the only one that put any money into the program because you're not. all I see here is "gimme what I want or I'm gonna hurt you" all over this. NOT impressed.

Kan
Wily1North
And they tell their members to spam people who ask the tough questions.
BobbiePolk
I know of an account being *fined* but not deleted....
Kaneda
QUOTE(gizzy @ Jul 29 2004, 11:08 AM)
There is one around here somewhere, I think?
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qizzy there's a difference between hateful threatening super vulgar posts and "unwelcomed comments". I've seen a few deletions because of the former, none for the latter. would be nice if you could find it so a little checking could be done.

Kan
freebiesite

ROFLOL>>>> hi there....thanks for inviting me in smile.gif

sure would like to ask your input on how you can run a business that doesnt pay you....as linder says..and that loses about 300 bucks with every ad you send??
I mean.. I see you have many new methods to try to get rid of people...get rid of debt...

when even your supporters pointed out the idea of making all vietnamese members pay for the actions of a few was wrong you backed off...

however...as I have stated before I dont think you are a scam..but...I sure wouldnt want to have the ever growing debt you have...

There is a thread about things you could do to help the debt...ie, reduce value of emails, offer smaller packages....offer some points for awhile..mazimize sales of sponsor/banners/front page links....

as for the guy who switched to a search ad?? well...not all that nice I agree..but maybe he was tired of waiting and hoping to make some money....

he didnt follow your *newly changed tos...you know the one that you had on the forum but finally added to the real tos??
soo....he didnt follow it...but you dont follow your own tos and pay within your own terms..

I know u like to say that money coming in will pay those who are owed...but when u sit down and do just a bit of math you can see that your debt has to be far outstripping the amount coming in..

yes..cheats are a problem...turing numbers, and other methods can help with this...rod of sas seems willing to help you..

but....at some point you have to really adjust those ad prices and get honest...
do the math.....

as a businesswoman I would love to know the wisdom of losing over $300 with every sale???




QUOTE(AysAdministrator @ Jul 29 2004, 08:47 AM)
Yes - many people say it - and I have many documentations to prove otherwise.

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Now, here is when freebiesite steps into the thread and boldly points out:

AYS is 7 months behind in payouts.......

sure hoping that lightbulb clicks to 'on' soon.

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Sharon

edited to add:

ok - she stepped back out - can I hope that the lightswitch is in motion?

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QUOTE(freebiesite @ Jul 29 2004, 11:25 AM)
he didnt follow your *newly changed tos...you know the one that you had on the forum but finally added to the real tos??
soo....he didnt follow it...but you dont follow your own tos and pay within your own terms..

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Umm...freebs? Not doing a search ad for a paid email to all hasn nothing to do with tos. It's ON the submission thing. So he didn't even have to go to tos is was in front of his face.

But like admin pointed out the ad was changed AFTER it was running. It was sneak and proves he already knew what he was doing.

5 Cent Paid Email Ad To All Members
NO SEARCH SITES
Regular Ads Only - ENGLISH LANGUAGE ONLY
All Ads Sent Within 48 Hours

Kan
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