Itchy and scratchy = partners in crime

yup they kill eachother and stuff

Hope you kept all your contact emails etc. with these people. This is so sad

kiwi,

please get your facts straight.

i gave you back your partner money of $10.00 plus 150% so you made 200%. and I said I was returning your original 10.00 and you said thank you.

you never told me to pay wcs for the domain. i asked you and you said you would pay her when you got egold money.

and you got paid promptly as did all partners. everybody got 200% on their investment plus their partner money and they all thanked me including you.

i asked you after I paid you if you had paid wcs and you said again that you were waiting for egold money to pay her.

so please don't go this way. you arent being very nice.

WCS is still waiting for her money for the domain. and you still havent paid her. So send her payment for the domain.

I allowed you to use my paypal address for your email program. All monies were given to you in egold.

and still you didnt pay wcs for the domain.

so please dont start spreading rumors because there are other partners that gave me money for 1heluva and they all made 200%.

so thank you and I hope you apologize and tell wcs that you will pay her immediately for the domain.

its now the 2nd week of december and you were paid promptly.

you also told me that you needed 75.00 in paypal to pay someone and I took you off my paypal account. I was nice enough to let you use my paypal account and you backstabbed me. and by backstabbing me, I took you off as soon as I sent you your money.

I'm still waiting for an apology from you for what you did.

I'm not posting what you did to me because I'm not like that.

however an apology to me will be accepted.

The origanal agree ment was i would invest $10 into your 1heluva account and you would add 100% to the investment to make it a $20 investment
and you would then pay 50% per month ( $10 ) by paying me $30 that is basicly doing what carole is doing which you disagreed to her doing that
you violated the agreement then you said i would pay you $120 12 months of 50% in advance and you said merry christmas

later on i asked you if you could pay wcs $10 out that $120 for the domain
she purchased for me you agreed so when you paid me the $30 instead of $110 i thought you had already paid WCS maybe that was a misunderstanding on both our sides

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I find it disgusting how you aggreed to match my investment and pay 10% ( $10 ) per month and didnt live up to that, you then said you would pay me $120 12 months worth of my investment and we would call it even, but again you didnt live up to that, and you now say that by giving me 150% + my $10 back is good enough? Caroline remember those talks we had about carole of mec-co-op we both disagreed to her tactics of giving back 200% +/-
and you said something along the lines of " see im not like her i give back 100% of what i get from my partners investments"
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about the $75 payal i had $60 e-gold and about $30 in the paypal account
i wanted to pay you in e-gold $60 and $15 out of the $30 which was MINE
for you to pay someone, Now you say i backstabbed you? Please explain


You know i trusted you, and thought you were honest and would stick to your word

Guess i was wrong..

i told you i was returning your ORIGINAL partner money and you agreed when I said I didnt want to do partner.

and I gave you 30.00 which you said fine. so that was mutual kiwi.

and every partner that I returned the money back to got their original plus 50% some got 100%!

so dont go that way. I told you no more partners and you agreed. so therefore our agreement was off when 2 people mutually agree! and it specified in the egold payment Original Investment Plus Match Plus 50%!

you never asked me to pay wcs. I asked you and you said when you get egold you will pay her. so dont go that way either.

all money from paypal i sent to you in egold and you know that. You said you would pay wcs when I sent you egold on the first week of December.

so please dont go that way either and lie. Its not nice of you.

I asked you again the other day if you had paid wcs and you said "no, not yet".

Now you're upset cuz wcs took the domain back? so pay her for the domain. you cant have a domain and not pay for it.

as for the backstab. lets see, what happened.

oh yes, lol you promised me if i allowed you the use of my paypal account for your new email program, I would be first in line so i could start the downline thread.

wow, you know what happened? you sold out to Jay cuz Jay promised you an ad or gold or something like that.

all i know is that when I got to the downline thread, you had over 300 people in your email program already.

i was hurt but still i kept it in. the last straw to throw you out of my hotmail account was when you totally ignored me for a couple of days and acted like i didnt exist. you did this cuz you were ashamed maybe. i don't know.

all i know is that every penny you received in paypal for your email program went to you in egold. and you never said you were sorry for giving jay and his email program first shot at your email program.

so talk about backstab. You even waited until i left the forum that day to announce your new email program.

and thats a backstab. and why should i continue to help you after what you did to me?

i still didnt join your program cuz i'm hurt for you selling me out for a promise from Jay.

so use Jay's paypal account to make payments to your email program people.

PEOPLE Stay away from those that promote MLM. If you want to play them.
Stick with a 20.00 bill. Theirs hundreds of these scams on the web, you here hundreds of reasons why their so good.

Not one has any safe guards to keep you from losing your money.
The person promoting the promgram will not cover your loses, they only care about making money off you. They love to prey on the young. The older you are the wiser you get after being burnt a few times from scams.

keep out shadowman if you dont know what you are talking about.

kiwi wants her domain back from wcs but she doesnt want to pay for the domain.

kiwi wants to still be a partner with me but she wants to backstab me.

in a court of law, an agreement is only good when both parties agree and both parties mutually ended the partnership.

kiwi is upset because now i took her off my paypal account. i'm nice enough for her to use it with all the problems with paypal. even gilby optinpay, etc. is having problems and had their account frozen.

and my paypal address was getting payments for a email program. so i took a risk also.

so tell me why i should keep her on my paypal account when she sold me out for a gold membership from Jay?

like i said shadowman, keep out cuz you dont know the story. you keep talking mlm when this is not mlm.

this is about kiwi did not pay for a domain. and wcs paid for the domain.

why should kiwi get a domain for free?

ILostMyTrueLove I learn to distrust people who always post huge posts like you do. Honest people can get by often with just a few honest words.

You do not decide in this forum what my business is or where I post.

I did not agree to calling the 1heluva partner agreement off and you know that

and also i never ever promised anyone 1st shot in my program

i got about 20 people asking to be first i told everyone including you and WCS if you are online i will message you

and what did i do i messaged WCS and lauchlan as they asked
I never said to add my email to your paypal and i will give you first spots

the only reason i wanted my email added to your paypal was so i could join
optin,links2cash linkburst wasnt around then and neither was my site

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about the paypal you took 4 or so for fees for trading it to e-gold when i spicificly asked you f you would wait so i could pay you $60 e-gold and you pay rhea,

One more question
if you think i "BackStabbed" you why did you wait almost 2 weeks to remove the email from paypal?
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and as for ignoring you i have 2 msn accounts that i switch through as sometimes i need to talk to jay,Brenda etc you arnt on that msn anymore as i was slowly trying to move the buddie list over to the new one but it should still show when i login on your msn
if you have noticed i still have webmaster@bun*** as msn which i am not a partner in that site anymore and havnt been for over 4 months maybe more
i was moving the buddies and deleted them 1 by 1 so i could return the msn to the real webmaster

and as far as i know im a guy i have all the manly parts

kiwi, enough please. you're making a bigger fool of yourself everytime you answer.

here is a copy of the PROOF that the agreement for partner is no longer valid and terminated by both parties!!

12/3/02
18:03 Payment Made 10095597 Gold -0.093575 497238 30.00 USD 320.60
To: e-goldmails
Memo: partner money plus original investment back

That is NOT proof its just the e-gold transaction of where you broke the aggreement and paid $30

if you thinks thats proof i could send you 2 cents right now and claim that
we agreed that from that 2 cents you would pay me $100 in 2 days time

i waited 2 weeks cuz i thought you would have apologoized to me.

you want me to try to find out when your email was taken off of my paypal account also?

1 second and i'll tell you the exact date you were taken out. its the same time i sent you the money from your paypal money to your egold money.

and of course i took off 2.75 from your money. why should i pay for the extra money to transfer money into your egold account. you were supposed to do the trade. instead you had me do the trade. and i paid 2.75 for the money exchange.

One more thing

I am not writing this because im mad at you for removing my email from your paypal Actually i dont give a d.amn about that
my members who brought gold memebrships and now have to wait 30 days to receive there funds back again

i give up kiwi. you were notified by PM also and agreed also.

have a nice night.

and i hope you work it out with wcs for your domain.

i'm assuming after you pay her then you get it back.

hummm.....

ilostmytruelove is honest....to me.....

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Payment Details


Amount: $30.00

Transaction ID: 86D74274R0561520W

Subject: 1heluva Partner Money

Note: Hi. this is caroline chaudhary and thank you for partnering with me $20.00

I am hereby returning the 20.00 original investment along with 50% which is $10.00 for a total of $30.00

I am no longer having partners. Thanks for trusting me. I hope someone else offers you 50%

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Im sorry but i have already registered a new domain name for e-goldmails

why ?
because i thought you paid her and nothing was wrong
i thought someone hacked my godaddy account and stole the domain
if you or WCS would have pmed me i would have known that you didnt pay for the domain

This has cost me more that $8.95 for a domain name

i know owe a certain someone for a long Long distance phone bill

Oh please do

as i did not get any notification about my email being taken off from you or paypal

i found out by having 3 members purchase gold memebrships while i was sleeping

Once again i had no prior notification that my email would be removed

How can i appoligize for something i never knew about

i dont know about you but if i had done soemthing to hurst someone feelings or done something towards then they didnt like

i would expect them to tell me straight up

thanks for saving your receipt. I deleted my original PM to kiwi.

bless you and I hope you're not mad at me either for stopping the partnership.

kiwi, if you would have told me to pay wcs, i would have! but you said you were taking care of it.

i have no idea what transpired after wcs registered the domain for you. if you remember, i got out of that 3 way conversation we were having that night.

and i tried to register it first with paypal only all domains require a credit card which I dont have. and thats when I asked you if you knew Silvie (wcs) and you said yes.

thats all.

i shouldnt have to PM you if you owe wcs. its up to you to pay wcs not me. all you asked me to do was to save 75.00 in paypal cuz you had to pay someone. and i asked then did you pay wcs and you said no, when you had egold the first week of dec., you would pay her.

Obviously this is all about misunderstanding eachother

what i meant was that i would pay you $60 e-gold and take $15 from my money in your paypal to pay rhea

not for you to save up $75

yes i asked if you had $75 in paypal not so you could pay her without getting anything

but i would pay you $60 in e-gold + the $15 of mine

and i'm not like that.

if someone does something to me then i dont bother them, i just cry and feel hurt.

and now i come to the forum and see this scamming folder from you about me?

you should have apologized to me without me having to ask you to.

you promised and gave it to Jay. thats what you told me. cuz Jay promised you gold and an email to all his members.

and when the master person at paypal removes an email address, only the master one is notified.

why should I notify you when you backstabbed me? you didnt have the nerve to tell me the truth at first as to why you gave it to Jay. you could have at least said, listen caroline, i got a great offer from Jay, would you mind if you arent first in the dl thread. thats it kiwi. honesty. i of course would have said okay and you know that. cuz you Im'd me and told me what you did and i said good.

ok. so then this was a misunderstanding cuz believe me, if you would have told me to pay wcs, i would have most certainly.

but you only said you would pay her the first week of december with egold when you got it.

thats it.

i dont want this to become another one of those threads we have had the past week where personal attacks are flung everywhere and there is 20+ people watching a small group doing it

i just want this sorted

a few things i want you to know

[*]In my opinion i never agreed to closing the 1heluva partnership
[*]I thought i told you to pay WCS ( maybe i didnt ) " maybe"
[*]I thought i told you if you were online i would message you like everyone else , again ( maybe i didnt ) " maybe"
[*]I didnt even know that you thought all these things

Another thing i want you to know

The reason we launched early was because someone signed up and already started promoting it i had 12 members before i knew it and yes jay was one of them as he was setting the site up and hosting it

you were taken off paypal on 12/9 with the payment to egold for the 24.00 - 2.75 for 21.25 payment final from paypal account.

and neither do i.

so this topic is finished mutually.

see i knew about the money coming to my e-gold becuase you told me you were sending it to me

but i didnt now you removed the email address

Im sorry for anything i did that hurt you, but truthfully i didnt know i did anything

we were still talking on msn and all the time you felt hurt by something i did
i didnt know sorry

its okay kiwi

it was all a misunderstanding.

i hope we're still friends and thanks for apologizing. makes me feel better now that you didnt do it on purpose.

all along this whole time, i thought you did. and i'm sorry for not telling you how i felt instead of pretending like it didnt hurt.

yay! a kiss and make up....if only all threads were like this....just not this soppy