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darkcloud
Looks to me like DreamsComeTrue has an agenda. I was getting close to their $100.00 and guess what? My account was deleted. I wrote them and asked why and they said that I had clicked their I cheat box in the user area. Big problem there is they don't have an I Cheat box on their site! I wrote to them and asked why and they will not answer me.

I don't take coming to this forum to complain lightly, but deleting my account for no reason and then refusing to answer me has fraud written all over it.

Darkcloud
sohel13
thanks

definitaly wont join that program

bunch of loosers that cant pay!
earnhappy
terrible
browneyes122565
QUOTE (darkcloud @ Jul 13 2004, 07:22 AM)
Looks to me like DreamsComeTrue has an agenda. I was getting close to their $100.00 and guess what? My account was deleted. I wrote them and asked why and they said that I had clicked their I cheat box in the user area. Big problem there is they don't have an I Cheat box on their site! I wrote to them and asked why and they will not answer me.

I don't take coming to this forum to complain lightly, but deleting my account for no reason and then refusing to answer me has fraud written all over it.

Darkcloud

On 7/9 the WM sent out a cheat link that stated this,

THIS LINK WORTH -5$,IF YOU CLICK YOUR ACCOUNT WILL LOSE 5$

http://www.dreamscometruemails.com/scripts/runner.php

Today he sent out an admin about the cheat link.

Here is a copy.

Hi, all my great member


If your earning are lost, You must click the link that worth -5$, and in the mail, it wrote

clearly, and I reminded you already, read this mail carefully...

But someone still clicked , and they asked me why their account were lost.

And why? I think may be you are using cheat bots.

If not, Why you clicked the link worth -5$, and I had said that if you click the link you will lose 5$....

So the things is clear, If you lost your earning ,you must click the -5$ link,

I suggest you do not use any cheat bots, Cheat Member will be deleted at once without any notice,

Thanks for your support
If you have any questions , mail to: webmaster@dreamscometruemails.com



Did you by chance click on that cheat link?
skylark


BrownEyes i think you need to read Darkclouds post again, he didnt just lose $5.00 for a cheat link his full account was deleted, biggrin.gif


Im sure if it was just $5 it would not be a problem but the whole account?



dry.gif I dont think so.. Its smacks of Scam to me


Very convienient mad.gif
darkcloud
QUOTE (browneyes122565 @ Jul 13 2004, 08:23 AM)
Did you by chance click on that cheat link?

Nope, my account was already deleted by then. They told me it was because I had "I cheat" checked. That's awfully difficult tho when there is no "I cheat" box to check.

Darkcloud
browneyes122565
QUOTE (skylark @ Jul 13 2004, 08:32 AM)
BrownEyes i think you need to read Darkclouds post again, he didnt just lose $5.00  for a cheat link his full account was deleted, biggrin.gif


Im sure if it was just $5  it would not be a problem  but the whole account?



dry.gif  I dont think so..  Its smacks of Scam to me


Very convienient mad.gif

Hey I had to ask since the WM did send out a cheat link recently.

Also, the WM could state one thing meaning that you would lose $5 if you click it and then turn around and decide to delete you for clicking it.

It seems like according to his TOS that he would delete you for anything.

In the event your e-mail account on file becomes closed or blocked to messages from dreamscometruemails.com, your account will be terminated. This especially applies to e-mail accounts returned for being Full. Any member sending us gibberish will result in automatic termination of account and Forfeiture of All earnings to date of termination. Auto-responses will also be deleted immediately.
Diane1380
I belonged to Dreamscometrue and Romance mails. I upgraded in Romance. He ran my ads but never upgraded my account. He didn't honor the 3 cent a week email I was entitled to and he didn't honor my 10.00 payout. I wrote him reguarding my upgrade at least 10 times to no avail. I wrote it off and dropped out of all his programs... Incidently... on another program i am in... romancemails was deleted for checking take all my money... don't know if its the same person or someone using that for an sn... if it's the later, I would change my sn!
skylark
ohmy.gif sad.gif I have decided that personally I am no longer going to donate my time to these people. I am going to redeem my earnings in all their programs (romance mails and sparrow emails) and then delete my accounts. Why stay when I am not going to get paid anyhow? blink.gif




Geez dont ya get tired of being ripped off dry.gif
Silvercircle
QUOTE (Diane1380 @ Jul 13 2004, 03:00 AM)
I belonged to Dreamscometrue and Romance mails. I upgraded in Romance. He ran my ads but never upgraded my account. He didn't honor the 3 cent a week email I was entitled to and he didn't honor my 10.00 payout. I wrote him reguarding my upgrade at least 10 times to no avail. I wrote it off and dropped out of all his programs... Incidently... on another program i am in... romancemails was deleted for checking take all my money... don't know if its the same person or someone using that for an sn... if it's the later, I would change my sn!

That's strange. I'm un upgraded member myself and the WM has always sent my ads. When I reached payout I got paid within 24 hours.
jamiekirchen
QUOTE (darkcloud @ Jul 12 2004, 07:35 PM)
QUOTE (browneyes122565 @ Jul 13 2004, 08:23 AM)
Did you by chance click on that cheat link?

Nope, my account was already deleted by then. They told me it was because I had "I cheat" checked. That's awfully difficult tho when there is no "I cheat" box to check.

Darkcloud

I just looked in my User account info and he is right, there is NO box to click saying "I Cheat"

Select categories of interests to you:

Automotive Computers & Internet Food & Drink
Home & Garden Mode & Lifestyle Movie & Music
Personal Finance Recreation Sport & Game
Technology


Thats ALL the Interest selections to chose from and not a single one of them says anything at all about cheating.


DjiXas
QUOTE (darkcloud @ Jul 13 2004, 01:22 AM)
Looks to me like DreamsComeTrue has an agenda. I was getting close to their $100.00 and guess what? My account was deleted. I wrote them and asked why and they said that I had clicked their I cheat box in the user area. Big problem there is they don't have an I Cheat box on their site! I wrote to them and asked why and they will not answer me.

I don't take coming to this forum to complain lightly, but deleting my account for no reason and then refusing to answer me has fraud written all over it.

Darkcloud

So maybe you are using cheat bots?
westcovinajoe
QUOTE (browneyes122565 @ Jul 12 2004, 04:23 PM)

If your earning are lost, You must click the link that worth -5$, and in the mail, it wrote

This is ridiculous.

How can a program send a cheat link if the webmaster can't speak the language of the site effectively???

If I ran a Greek site I would make as much sense as this dreamsDONTcometrue guy.

"If you were clicked links you was loosted -5$."

I say lets send this webmaster a english test cheat link!

Disgusting,
Joe biggrin.gif
loveisalluneed
QUOTE(darkcloud @ Jul 12 2004, 05:22 PM)
Looks to me like DreamsComeTrue has an agenda. I was getting close to their $100.00 and guess what? My account was deleted. I wrote them and asked why and they said that I had clicked their I cheat box in the user area. Big problem there is they don't have an I Cheat box on their site! I wrote to them and asked why and they will not answer me. 

I don't take coming to this forum to complain lightly, but deleting my account for no reason and then refusing to answer me has fraud written all over it.

Darkcloud
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Yeah, I think he's right about Dreamscometruemails...Besides the fact that I have 205 in my downline (160 first level, 37 second level) and have only earned the following:

You have directly earned: $ 55.2900
You have earned from your Downline: $ 12.4673

that much eh? from my downline - NICE! I think I'll keep promoting for them! NOT!

Oh yeah, and I received close $7 in the past 3+ months from referrals - what a scam! I just requested a $50 payout as gold member (so sorry I paid for that membership) and it's been more than 2 days though they claim to pay within 24 hours - and money's been deducted and not a payment in sight.

But, you are right about the interests - if you have a copy of that email you could maybe do some damage:

check this out:

Proof of interests not having "I Cheat"

I am so sick of these sites - also today - heard from a member of my site - requested payout at lightstarmail - deleted.

Such a shame! mad.gif

Regards,
~mike

bigeyes1
QUOTE(Silvercircle @ Jul 13 2004, 09:27 AM)
That's strange. I'm un upgraded member myself and the WM has always sent my ads. When I reached payout I got paid within 24 hours.
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I'm also an upgraded member at DCTM. This has got to be one of the best PTR/PTC sites out there. My ads has always gone out extremely fast and I've ALWAYS gotten paid within 24 hours of my requested cashout.

I think there is more to this story... As we all know, there is always two sides to every coin.
Texasme
Not a member thaere, myself, but have heard similar complaints about it befor. Somaybe Dreams DON'T come true. Sorry this happened to you, but I am sure if they are a scam site then you wont be alone. I just dont know why sites have to use these tactics rather than just admit that they have failed and cant pay members. But so many hate to admit their own shortcomings so try to turn it around and make it into members faults. You are better off without programs like that.
Meroveus
Notice the only people here defending it are upgraded members? No offense, guys... I just found out a program that's always paid me on time and given me wonderful service only does that because I'm upgraded... the rest they treat very differently.

The OP is exactly right - there is no "I cheat" box, so the webmaster's explanation of why the OP was deleted is bogus. No question about that. At best, the WM is deeply confused and too unprofessional to realize he should double-check himself. At worst, this is just made-up to get rid of a few members.
loveisalluneed
QUOTE(bigeyes1 @ Aug 12 2004, 08:19 AM)
I'm also an upgraded member at DCTM.  This has got to be one of the best PTR/PTC sites out there.  My ads has always gone out extremely fast and I've ALWAYS gotten paid within 24 hours of my requested cashout. 

I think there is more to this story... As we all know, there is always two sides to every coin.
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Out of curiosity, do you have a downline? If so, what's the size of it?

Regards,

Mike
loveisalluneed
QUOTE(Texasme @ Aug 12 2004, 02:13 PM)
Not a member thaere, myself, but have heard similar complaints about it befor. Somaybe  Dreams DON'T come true. Sorry this happened to you, but I am sure if they are a scam site then you wont be alone. I just dont know why sites have to use these tactics rather than just admit that they have failed and cant pay members. But so many hate to admit their own shortcomings so try to turn it around and make it into members faults. You are better off without programs like that.
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I don't think it is so much that they cannot pay their members (as far as I know, I have never heard of one free member receiving a payout) - I think from the amount of searches sent on that site (which are sent only to search countries, there are no options to check if you actually want the search ads) they have more than enough money to pay $50 here and $50 there. I just think they are being a bit shady because they have become greedy. Also, it is my experience (and I have heard from others as well as am in the process of obtaining a lot of good evidence that proves this) - I have big downlines at dreams come true and sparrow, but my earnings from referrals in no way reflect the amount of time, money, and effort I spent to get that downline - which is totally bogus. I have emailed CC admin to ask them to write into the CC code so that just as you can see how many free referrals rotation weight that you have, also too should you be able to see if you have "extra commissions" added to your account. The reason I say this (I am sure many have already heard my reason but I will say it again) is because you can put in the "extra commissions" per individual member a negative percentage (which I also think was poor thinking and also negligence from the Cash Crusader programmer(s)) = there's way too many built-in anti-cheat mechanisms for to catch member cheaters, but what about abuse by POs? Not even an option - I know it is not completely possible to rid the CC scripts completely of ways for the owner to cheat their members, but something as simple as not allowing a negative number to be entered wouldn't seem that tough to add to me. Just my thoughts. Black-Emails does it too - I sent both of these sites asking how that is possible with the downline I have, and basically it ended in saying that they are cheating members etc - and I knew I'd never get a response - any sort of email that would sort of get them thinking - they wouldn't have the guts to respond too - otherwise dreamscometrue had responded to my emails - Black emails never once responded - even when it was completely polite and simple respectful email (which is what I sent first) - the first few times.

I just want to be able to expose these sites - Whether anyone else agrees, is solely an opinion at this point, but it is my intent, to actually proove what they are doing is scamming members and not the other way around. I already have a good amount of data heavily leaning towards proving this.

Only time will tell for now.

~Mike
loveisalluneed
QUOTE(Meroveus @ Aug 12 2004, 03:34 PM)
Notice the only people here defending it are upgraded members?  No offense, guys... I just found out a program that's always paid me on time and given me wonderful service only does that because I'm upgraded... the rest they treat very differently.

The OP is exactly right - there is no "I cheat" box, so the webmaster's explanation of why the OP was deleted is bogus.  No question about that.  At best, the WM is deeply confused and too unprofessional to realize he should double-check himself.  At worst, this is just made-up to get rid of a few members.
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Oh, and by the way, I am an upgraded member at Dreamscometruemail too - I don't think I have been treated in any special way - if anything, I have been treated unfairly, flat out ignored, and, now I see all these people saying they always get paid in 24 hours, well, then now, I may also be out of $50 - I redeemed now about 3 days ago (I know that's not a long time, but site says within 24 hours, terms and FAQ say 24 hours, so, I don't know what to think anymore).

But, yes, I agree some POs will treat their upgraded members with a bit more attention etc.

Meroveus
QUOTE(loveisalluneed @ Aug 13 2004, 07:44 AM)
Oh, and by the way,  I am an upgraded member at Dreamscometruemail too - I don't think I have been treated in any special way - if anything, I have been treated unfairly, flat out ignored, and, now I see all these people saying they always get paid in 24 hours, well, then now, I may also be out of $50 - I redeemed now about 3 days ago (I know that's not a long time, but site says within 24 hours, terms and FAQ say 24 hours, so, I don't know what to think anymore).

But, yes, I agree some POs will treat their upgraded members with a bit more attention etc.
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I'm sorry to hear you've not been treated fairly. If only SOME upgraded members are happy with the site, that really doesn't speak well for it.
lorrainenewman
I have been with DCTM for nearly a year. I have a few members in my downline but not enough to make a huge impact. Finally after 8 months of working, I hit the $100 payout. Gave it a week and e-mailed them - nothing, now here I am after a month and still nothing. I have not lost any money, never clicked a cheat link and speak English. If anyone has any information on this site I would appreciate it as I was kind of hoping for that cash for Christmas.
maximum
Just at payout. ohmy.gif Nightmare come true.
Tigress8u
Doing a forum search on any praises for this site I found none

Not one person has stated being paid by this site???

~LadyFire~
I had asked the wm if I could sell my account and he told me he doesn't allow selling of accounts. I'm ok with that, the problem I had was that the next day my referrals started disappearing. I don't have enough evidence to accuse the wm. But it makes me wonder! dry.gif Skipping to the end of the story, I deleted the account.
Merlin666
Does anybody known the owner of Romancemails ?

Email-adress would be helpful.

Thanks.

Merlin666
konstantins
Scam.they don't pay.

4 real!dreams come true!
Keith55
QUOTE(darkcloud @ Jul 12 2004, 07:22 PM)
Looks to me like DreamsComeTrue has an agenda. I was getting close to their $100.00 and guess what? My account was deleted. I wrote them and asked why and they said that I had clicked their I cheat box in the user area. Big problem there is they don't have an I Cheat box on their site! I wrote to them and asked why and they will not answer me. 

I don't take coming to this forum to complain lightly, but deleting my account for no reason and then refusing to answer me has fraud written all over it.

Darkcloud
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Sounds like fraud to me...they need to be sued..? keith55
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