Re:

Thsi si NOT the official way to redeem.



>
> name: XXXXX.XXX
>
> username: XXXXXX
>
> subject_type: Other
>
> bquestion_type: please Payment
>
> message_type: I have $6.7591
> please Payment
> My e-gold:XXXXXXX
> or
> My paypal:XXXXXXXX@XXX.com
> thank you very much
>

I fail to understand why your calling this person a cheater. Because the person tried to redeem incorrectly? Or because the person doesn't have that ammount of money?

Re:

As per your post at GPF calling me a cheater for telling you this wasnt the
official way to request payment your account is terminated. Do not bother
resigning up.

Ill be removing your account at my other programs if you are a member.

Yes,he is a scammer.
I requested my payment one months ago, But I haven't get it so far.
Please look the email that he reply:

>You will be paid as per my terms. Any more THREATS from you will result
in your account being terminated.

But he didn't pay,a scammer!!!!!!

I correct request redeem , wait for and still paid the bill for a long time, Why? ?

Hey Cash4Hits boss
If you do not have enough money, then I ask for the advertisement to redeem now! !
Please don't move my account

You all are not the only people who have not been payed by him. There are some still waiting for over six months for their payout. If he does not hold up on his end of the TOS, he may find himself on the Boycott list as a scammer.

I was not paid too!!

The webmaster had just sent a email to me:
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Re:
We are not cheaters and since you are callign us one in the forums your
accoutn is now deleted. Do not resignup.
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He said that he is not a cheater,but he deleted my account because I ask for my payment.
In fact,I worked for him about six months,now I don't get anything.
oh,he is not a cheater,am I a cheater??

what can I say?

cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cash4hits is a scammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bad news for me then.. I have like $4.98 cents i need 2 more pennies to cashout.. but now i have to wait a month to try to cashout because he switched to an all points system.. I thought he was banned fromt his forum??

BTW has anyone been paid by him? please let me know =) Thanks.. I hope he dosent get mad for me asking and delete my account

Vermox is a cheater and a scammer and he is a little boy who needs to grow up and get a life......He is now trying to imatate Jay......

Jay...I really do wonder why you bother with this loser......I do not dislike many people, but vermox, I do intensely.

Vermox......Delete my accounts...if you are so smart work out who I am and do it...as I have your e-mails on block anyways...lmao!!!

I requester payment, didn't get it and when I wrote again I was told I would be paid "When I Get To Payment Requests"
When I informed my GypsyDad Members about this, my account was deleted as well.
I am also going to report this to my members.
Seems deleting accounts is his response to payment requests.
Had I known that VenomX owned this scam, I would never have joined it to begin with.
I'm heading to the boycott site from here.

moonieb.......


Vermox = treatment for parasitic infections?

"venomx" was banned from this forum because of
his obscene posts which included sexual content. He
obviously does not intend on paying members, and
has spread false accusations about other programs,
including the Points2Cash Network (SPE, EarnGold4Free and Click2EarnCash). Anyone who associates with him should disassociate immediately, or everyone will dislike them just as much as "venomx".

i guess people will have to dislike me then

What other programs does Venomx own??

I think he owns TopDollarEmails and PaidWorld, as well as a search engine or 2 (can't remember those).

I though you were banned from here.

No big deal. You would not be paid anyway.

who is the cheater and/or scammer?

Venomx w/ his programs Cash4Hits, topdollaremails, paidworld, and a couple others.. which I don't know.

is he the one complaining about a scam or what?

No, everyone is saying he is the scam.

ok I see now

I thought the person complaining was scamming or is Venomx ...

guess they are different people

... they make it so confusing sometimes

I was confused too.

(usually am tho')

Umm i didn't quite understand that.. but Venomex is the scammer. Just wanted to make sure you got that.

I warn Jay never to trust venomx. Venomx is really poison to this GPTR industry. The last post I made at Jay's forum was about several programs that are on the watch list including both of his, and he threw a temper tantrum and demanding the posts be deleted. I told him why? Is he hiding something that is the truth and is a fact for non-payment? I did not lie about him not paying his members. I consider him as a scam artist. You can see who Jay chose to ban? Someone who reported the truth get banned, and someone stays who has something to hide.

Good, go there. More people to fill out the form, the quicker venomx and his programs will be listed.

I myself have an account with him with over $6.00 in it .

I just thought it was a safe program to work with but now the picture is very clear.

FYI There is a forum http://www.getpaidfyi.com in which
there are company support folders for the programs owned by Venmox( John Stilwell) including Cash4hits.

All those who have not been paid just post ur complaints there so that everyone knows what is happening
and let Venomx explain his point of view.
If he is not a cheater I hope so, then let him answer there ........

His Answer-->
http://www.getpaidfyi.com/showthread.php?threadid=833

sorry poncer, but the fact that you posted about venomx was NOT why you are no longer at JOF

and you said all this crap 4 what ?

I didn't Ban you CB did for NON sence & trouble making NOT me !

VenomX was warned just like u ( for getting carried away ) at JOF and
Unlike ( some people ) Quickly said okay yeah your right and corrected his statements .

Unlike Poncer ~ who contuniues too associate every Fault in life on someone else .

Poncer please just quiit bringing me into ever conversation you have .

As I have nothig to Business wise with you or VenomX ( Oh Wait ! )

Yep Go send me a PayPal money request so I can Pay you your $20.00

Xmas Bonus for being a MOD the few short weeks you were at JOF

So you & I can conclude & close any form of association forum wise ( you may or may not of felt we had together )

Funny how your rabid defenders that hold positions in your forum have been stating they receive no compensation from you. But yet you post you also payout x-mas bonuses.

I just thought of it NOW

edited
Cause I'm feeling in the Holiday Spirit edited

Not that anything I do is any of Your Businessedited


YOU LOVE ME that is why you follow me from Post 2 Post

worse then Poncer You Dream of Being ME !!!


edited & QUIT Staulking Me !!!!

jay send me my rabid defender bonus lol


Note: this was a joke i dont really get paid

what did KensLuv

say lets Get ready to Rumble

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----- Original Message -----
From: PONCER

To: jaydillar@yahoo.com
ent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:28 PM
Subject: Shadowman


I have been thinking about this for awhile. There was several clues that this Shadowman gave away.

1.Joined like two weeks ago to the forum.

2.How did he knew about things that were said weeks or months ago? I did not mentioned the broom handle lately. I posted about it at the time Nicole got her death threat which was like 2 months ago.

3.The style of posts that I have read from him reminds me from someone from Yahoo groups. Shadowman may not be a male, nor from Texas. The style is like control, but with insults thrown in like someone I know from Yahoo.

4.Makes the same accusations about you two just like the same accusations about my NYPD friends. My NYPD friends sometimes visit each other, or post from work in the groups, and they made the same exact mistakes you two have done when you both post on the same computer without logging out and all that.



I have a feeling that someone from Yahoo groups is now targeting you. Have you notice that Shadowman was the one who used that broom handle reference? I forgot about a few weeks before that Tina made a threat to me in the group about a broom handle. I need to find those posts. I am going to ask lgwong, Tipsy and Chesse to help me save those posts from him. I am going find Holly's posts who I think is also this TMarie's as well. Whoever this person is behind this hottina, Tina, Holly and maybe Shadowman seems to be crazy, and sounds dangerous. Jay, take this into account. Sherry is getting frustrated with this Shadowman just like I have been with this Tina, Holly and other ids. I am going try something in the group by mentioning the Shadow is on my back.





PONCER

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I removed names and edited to screen name of this Board

No Jay. I told you all about venomx a long time ago, and you and him became friends. You even told me you and venomx had a plan on working on a project together. As for the bannishment, it is edited because alot of people should be banned as well like Shelly, Dawnn26, venomx and several others. You allowed them to bash me on your stupid forum. I would not have argue with them if you and Sherry tell them to stop it as well. No, you never did. They continued to bash and pick on me over there.

Oh I dream of having a temper of a 2 yeard old. Cheating other sites of their tos rules, slandering people, deleting my members accounts for asking questions, swearing in forums, making mass threats to delete members, and more. Don't make me barf!!


Really!! Funny you can dish it out, appear in my threads and cause trouble but you can't handle it one to one. You have to run back to your forum and bring a bung of rabid defenders to spam garbage to mess up a thread.

Appointment made, Dex. 16 at 2.00 pm with my attorney See you in court you lying slander!!

I wanna be like Jay Plays in your Head Daily !!

Fine I'm PM'ing the MODS your Off Topic

and had to Run in here and RUN your MOUTH on a thread that Nuttin to do with You edited

I do not want to be like you. I don't go around and hurt other people's feelings on purpose like you do.

I was talking to Shawdow

Anyone who beliefs anything you post Jay isn't palaying with a full deck. You lied about me and you have lied about others.

Thats a known fact!!!

then stop going on about JOF

YOU ARE BANNED
BANNED=NOT ALLOWED IN OR JOIN AGAIN

its simple even i can read it
edited

So how do we know your telling the truth about Poncer. You could of change that chat message to say anything you wanted.

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----- Original Message -----
From: edited
To: jaydillar@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:28 PM
Subject: Shadowman


I have been thinking about this for awhile. There was several clues that this Shadowman gave away.

1.Joined like two weeks ago to the forum.

2.How did he knew about things that were said weeks or months ago? I did not mentioned the broom handle lately. I posted about it at the time Nicole got her death threat which was like 2 months ago.

3.The style of posts that I have read from him reminds me from someone from Yahoo groups. Shadowman may not be a male, nor from Texas. The style is like control, but with insults thrown in like someone I know from Yahoo.

4.Makes the same accusations about you two just like the same accusations about my NYPD friends. My NYPD friends sometimes visit each other, or post from work in the groups, and they made the same exact mistakes you two have done when you both post on the same computer without logging out and all that.



I have a feeling that someone from Yahoo groups is now targeting you. Have you notice that Shadowman was the one who used that broom handle reference? I forgot about a few weeks before that Tina made a threat to me in the group about a broom handle. I need to find those posts. I am going to ask lgwong, Tipsy and Chesse to help me save those posts from him. I am going find Holly's posts who I think is also this TMarie's as well. Whoever this person is behind this hottina, Tina, Holly and maybe Shadowman seems to be crazy, and sounds dangerous. Jay, take this into account. Sherry is getting frustrated with this Shadowman just like I have been with this Tina, Holly and other ids. I am going try something in the group by mentioning the Shadow is on my back.





David





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Every morning when I enter this forum it's the same, can you please STOPPIT, we can't go around in this forum anymore without coming across the usual fights !

Thanks a lot.

Sophie

Your so use to going off and attacking anyone you please for NO just reasons. How does it feel Jay to be attack? For just reasons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leave people alone in this forum. Stop attacking them, deleting their accounts, swearing at them, lying about them. Threats of being banned. I am your worse nightmare Jay. A honest person with a attitude. Go lie in your own forum.

It seems Jay told lies about me on Sunday as well. His saying those things to me is uncalled for after all I did as a mod for his forum. He wanted me to get news about other programs and posted it on his forum, including news about venomx and them. I see I get banned for something Jay wanted me to do.

whatacon is a girl and from austraila ( Maybe Poncer is smarter then we thought )

and the name is Tina


POST YOUR PIC or let us see u on WebCam Shawowman or ShawdowGirl

forum name here

noncheater

Once Jay stops jumping on people, I will stop jumping on Jay.