SpendingTheCheese
Dec 6 2002, 05:33 PM
I dont dislike GPT programs but.......
What is the main thing you hate about Get paid to Programs.
I hate it when I dont receive payed emails for a certain amount of time....
List your own...
lucyfer
Dec 6 2002, 05:39 PM
WM's not answering their mail!!
EMailCashFrenzy
Dec 6 2002, 05:44 PM
Members complaining about no emails but they don't advertise...
driden
Dec 6 2002, 05:57 PM
not sending me, and only me, a link worth $100,000.00 with an immediate cash out option from it
seriously though, it's pretty much the same as normal stuff: not sending PAID emails (just points, with no cash value for them), not replying to emails, not sending emails forever and a day...
one thing that i DO like though about many of the ones i'm in, is the fact that the webmasters/mistresses put some comedy in their sites and emails. funny sayings, talking to the members in the emails, not just "here's the link, click it, this is what you get"
my quarter of a cent. i'm getting broker and broker, and running out of half cents to throw in
badkitty
Dec 6 2002, 05:57 PM
QUOTE (EMailCashFrenzy @ Dec 6 2002, 06:44 PM)
Members complaining about no emails but they don't advertise...

Lol.. I think that's a hint.
sophieca
Dec 6 2002, 06:02 PM
What I hate and make me quit a programme ASAP : Webmasters insulting members .... well, can't quit members when they insult webmasters but if it was possible I would also ;-)
Sophie
driden
Dec 6 2002, 06:07 PM
to me, that would depend. example: my mates and i are constantly insulting each other, but in a friendly way (if that makes any sense). if it's done in a private email in such a way that is obviously meant to just be fun, while talking about a specific issue or something like that, then that might make me stay when i was on the fence of leaving or not, as it shows that the webmaster is a *gasps* human, who, like everyone, knows things need to be done, but also knows how to have a little fun.
but then, i'm weird. oh well
"i live in a reality of my own making... unfortunetly the bill collectors keep knocking at the door"
shadowman
Dec 6 2002, 06:08 PM
Misleading statements like paying up to .25 a e-mail. More discloser of value of e-mails, how many sent, and when needed.
sophieca
Dec 6 2002, 06:13 PM
Driden ?
Are you saying I can't see the difference between a real insult and fun ? Hmmmm, wondering if I will consider this as an insult ;-)
I meant, if in a public forum the mods have to stop webmasters and edit their posts because of personal attack when they talk to other people .... it sometimes can be considered as being not funny at all but insulting .....
But don't be afraid, I didn't have to delete my account from many sites because of insulting webmasters, just some ..... people who can't behave, can't be trusted ...so I go away ...plain and simple, maybe I am the wierd one and should enjoy being insulted, I just have more interesting things to do and it's the only case where I don't give webmasters a second, third and forth chance like I usually do ;-)
Sophie
driden
Dec 6 2002, 06:16 PM
one point on disclosure (although, i think it's a good idea in principle, don't get me wrong here) of emails sent
when you sign up, you have an area where you can choose your interests. some advertisers only pay for x amount of hits, and target it to specific interests so that they don't waste their money sending an email to someone who's not interested in the product.
now, if it's a disclosure such as 15 sent in this category, 12 sent in this category, 20 sent to members subscribed to categories x y and z, for a total of *grabs a calculator* 47 sent emails, that would be one thing
but if, for example, you just said "47 sent emails this month" (or whatever the period is), then people who didn't get some cause they didn't check a particular category are gonna start yelling "scam" and sending abusive emails to the webmaster
so, while the disclosure's a good idea in principle, how it's done needs to be examined EXTREMELY carefully to keep the overly hyper overly paranoid members from freaking out and going off on a good webmaster
i know what i'm speaking of. i suffer paranoia. that, and i'm greedy
freeandeasy
Dec 6 2002, 06:20 PM
QUOTE (shadowman @ Dec 6 2002, 06:08 PM)
Misleading statements like paying up to .25 a e-mail. More discloser of value of e-mails, how many sent, and when needed.
But I really DID send out a 25c link a few days ago.
I didn't state the value in the mail because I wanted to reward the members who already click.
I sent a 10c link the day before that.
If members will stay active, I'll happily send out a link like that now and again. (not TOO often, though, I would go BROKE
shadowman
Dec 6 2002, 06:24 PM
QUOTE (freeandeasy @ Dec 7 2002, 08:20 AM)
QUOTE (shadowman @ Dec 6 2002, 06:08 PM)
Misleading statements like paying up to .25 a e-mail. More discloser of value of e-mails, how many sent, and when needed.
But I really DID send out a 25c link a few days ago.
I didn't state the value in the mail because I wanted to reward the members who already click.
I sent a 10c link the day before that.
If members will stay active, I'll happily send out a link like that now and again. (not TOO often, though, I would go BROKE

Wasn't slandering you. The number .25 was just a example, some sites state up to so much just to get people to sign up.
freeandeasy
Dec 6 2002, 06:31 PM
QUOTE (shadowman @ Dec 6 2002, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (freeandeasy @ Dec 7 2002, 08:20 AM)
QUOTE (shadowman @ Dec 6 2002, 06:08 PM)
Misleading statements like paying up to .25 a e-mail. More discloser of value of e-mails, how many sent, and when needed.
But I really DID send out a 25c link a few days ago.
I didn't state the value in the mail because I wanted to reward the members who already click.
I sent a 10c link the day before that.
If members will stay active, I'll happily send out a link like that now and again. (not TOO often, though, I would go BROKE

Wasn't slandering you. The number .25 was just a example, some sites state up to so much just to get people to sign up.
Oh, I know you weren't.
But you will not find anywhere on my site, and never has been anywhere on my site that I pay "up to" whatever ridiculous amounts for links.
But I see that on other sites, and it irritates the heck out of me.
driden
Dec 6 2002, 06:39 PM
QUOTE (sophieca @ Dec 6 2002, 06:13 PM)
Driden ?
Are you saying I can't see the difference between a real insult and fun ? Hmmmm, wondering if I will consider this as an insult ;-)
I meant, if in a public forum the mods have to stop webmasters and edit their posts because of personal attack when they talk to other people .... it sometimes can be considered as being not funny at all but insulting .....
But don't be afraid, I didn't have to delete my account from many sites because of insulting webmasters, just some ..... people who can't behave, can't be trusted ...so I go away ...plain and simple, maybe I am the wierd one and should enjoy being insulted, I just have more interesting things to do and it's the only case where I don't give webmasters a second, third and forth chance like I usually do ;-)
Sophie
ooooooooops, missed this in trying to keep track of all these threads i'm looking at. i think i'm giving my poor widdle dial up modem too much work
nah, don't take it as an insult (unless ya wanna take it as the kinds my mates and i give each other, which is the fun kind, then ya can)

good point on there, about having to edit posts cause of it. yeah, now that's not right. the members are what keep the webmasters/mistresses in business (no members, nobody to read adds, nobody buys adds). fun insulting though is good. no point in being serious ALL the time
Shelly
Dec 6 2002, 07:49 PM
QUOTE (driden @ Dec 6 2002, 07:16 PM)
one point on disclosure (although, i think it's a good idea in principle, don't get me wrong here) of emails sent
when you sign up, you have an area where you can choose your interests. some advertisers only pay for x amount of hits, and target it to specific interests so that they don't waste their money sending an email to someone who's not interested in the product.
now, if it's a disclosure such as 15 sent in this category, 12 sent in this category, 20 sent to members subscribed to categories x y and z, for a total of *grabs a calculator* 47 sent emails, that would be one thing
but if, for example, you just said "47 sent emails this month" (or whatever the period is), then people who didn't get some cause they didn't check a particular category are gonna start yelling "scam" and sending abusive emails to the webmaster
so, while the disclosure's a good idea in principle, how it's done needs to be examined EXTREMELY carefully to keep the overly hyper overly paranoid members from freaking out and going off on a good webmaster
i know what i'm speaking of. i suffer paranoia. that, and i'm greedy

yes but I am greedy too and If I signed up for the site and checked every interest box then I want every email....especially since I only have a few programs with referrals and one I only made 4 cents off my referrals to date because they are all searches and nobody likes searches.
But I am wondering...If a member pays lets say a 1 cent ad to 200 or 2000
then do Gold Members get these links or how is it decided who gets them?
shadowman
Dec 6 2002, 08:02 PM
QUOTE (Shelly @ Dec 7 2002, 09:49 AM)
QUOTE (driden @ Dec 6 2002, 07:16 PM)
one point on disclosure (although, i think it's a good idea in principle, don't get me wrong here) of emails sent
when you sign up, you have an area where you can choose your interests. some advertisers only pay for x amount of hits, and target it to specific interests so that they don't waste their money sending an email to someone who's not interested in the product.
now, if it's a disclosure such as 15 sent in this category, 12 sent in this category, 20 sent to members subscribed to categories x y and z, for a total of *grabs a calculator* 47 sent emails, that would be one thing
but if, for example, you just said "47 sent emails this month" (or whatever the period is), then people who didn't get some cause they didn't check a particular category are gonna start yelling "scam" and sending abusive emails to the webmaster
so, while the disclosure's a good idea in principle, how it's done needs to be examined EXTREMELY carefully to keep the overly hyper overly paranoid members from freaking out and going off on a good webmaster
i know what i'm speaking of. i suffer paranoia. that, and i'm greedy :P
yes but I am greedy too and If I signed up for the site and checked every interest box then I want every email....especially since I only have a few programs with referrals and one I only made 4 cents off my referrals to date because they are all searches and nobody likes searches.
But I am wondering...If a member pays lets say a 1 cent ad to 200 or 2000
then do Gold Members get these links or how is it decided who gets them?
Well one site I was looking at look very, very good until I read basic members get 40% of revenue and gold members get 40% more for a total of 80%. To me thats way out of line, its ok to pay gold members some more but when you got that big of a difference count me out. More like a force situation, be gold or take twice as long to cash out. Basic members should get good benefits, their the cornerstone of memberships. Gold and other higher levels should get aditional perks and payout percentage. But 40%, no way.
Mango88
Dec 6 2002, 08:06 PM
Shadowman - What site is that?? I would never join that because I would think it's a scam just to get more $$.
Shelly
Dec 6 2002, 08:17 PM
I still have to wonder.....I have one Gold membership......I had 4 referrals before I bought the Gold and several months later I still have only 4...It is a well known program and I really thought there were so called "perks" to gold but obviously not in my case
shadowman
Dec 6 2002, 08:23 PM
QUOTE (Mango88 @ Dec 7 2002, 10:06 AM)
Shadowman - What site is that?? I would never join that because I would think it's a scam just to get more $$.
Sorry I don't recall the name. I check out a lot of sites yesterday. I can if you wish give you two sites which list many ptrs(one has over 600) another has a lot and also lists minimum payout sites, I think it may of been in the last one.
Mango88
Dec 6 2002, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (Shelly @ Dec 6 2002, 09:17 PM)
I still have to wonder.....I have one Gold membership......I had 4 referrals before I bought the Gold and several months later I still have only 4...It is a well known program and I really thought there were so called "perks" to gold but obviously not in my case
Yep, that happens to me quite often. It's not a gurantee that you will get referrarls thou. Some sites even include the word "possibility" of getting referrarls.
Mango88
Dec 6 2002, 08:29 PM
QUOTE (shadowman @ Dec 6 2002, 09:23 PM)
QUOTE (Mango88 @ Dec 7 2002, 10:06 AM)
Shadowman - What site is that?? I would never join that because I would think it's a scam just to get more $$.
Sorry I don't recall the name. I check out a lot of sites yesterday. I can if you wish give you two sites which list many ptrs(one has over 600) another has a lot and also lists minimum payout sites, I think it may of been in the last one.
LOL! No thanks Shadowman - thanks though. I don't think i have the patience for that .
Kristin
Dec 6 2002, 08:30 PM
Shelley - it would depend on how many gold members there are...and how many new signups without a referrer there are.
I bought a gold membership at centsablemail because it was very cheap - and you got an ad sent out. I don't expect to get many referrals from this program....
I guess it depends on the price you pay too.
shannelle1
Dec 6 2002, 08:35 PM
Two things I don't like:
Not telling value of link before you click on it or telling us it's a search email so I can decide for myself whether I want to search or not without having to because I've already been paid for it and if I don't I'd be considered cheating
AND
CHANGING THEIR TERMS AFTER AWHILE!!
Some changes in terms are fine but when you go from payouts of paypal and e-gold to just payouts of paypal, these affect members like me who do not have paypal as an option so I end up wasting my time clicking links and promoting a program that I cannot get paid for and also others that ban certain countries only after they've been around for about a year, and we know who those are!!
That's about it.
Oh yeah and I don't really care much in waiting months for my money I earned, they don't wait months for me to click on their links!!
Mango88
Dec 6 2002, 08:36 PM
QUOTE (Kristin @ Dec 6 2002, 09:30 PM)
I bought a gold membership at centsablemail because it was very cheap - and you got an ad sent out. I don't expect to get many referrals from this program....
It took me over 1 month and some weeks to get 1 referrarl.
badkitty
Dec 6 2002, 08:45 PM
QUOTE (Mango88 @ Dec 6 2002, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE (Kristin @ Dec 6 2002, 09:30 PM)
I bought a gold membership at centsablemail because it was very cheap - and you got an ad sent out. I don't expect to get many referrals from this program....
It took me over 1 month and some weeks to get 1 referrarl.
Centsable has been around for awhile.. maybe that's why? I've went gold in a few programs. Some i've gained 50+ refs in.. other programs i've only got 1 or 2.
shadowman
Dec 6 2002, 08:55 PM
QUOTE (badkitty @ Dec 7 2002, 10:45 AM)
QUOTE (Mango88 @ Dec 6 2002, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE (Kristin @ Dec 6 2002, 09:30 PM)
I bought a gold membership at centsablemail because it was very cheap - and you got an ad sent out. ?I don't expect to get many referrals from this program....
It took me over 1 month and some weeks to get 1 referrarl.
Centsable has been around for awhile.. maybe that's why? I've went gold in a few programs. Some i've gained 50+ refs in.. other programs i've only got 1 or 2.
Every once on a while I see a login name that really makes me smile. Yours,
badkitty is unquie and very cute.
Shelly
Dec 6 2002, 08:55 PM
I haven't gone Gold at Centsablemail but I have to admit I got great results from an ad I ran last Sunday....I enjoy Ron's links and his emails are relatively easy to do
badkitty
Dec 6 2002, 09:28 PM
QUOTE (shadowman @ Dec 6 2002, 09:55 PM)
QUOTE (badkitty @ Dec 7 2002, 10:45 AM)
QUOTE (Mango88 @ Dec 6 2002, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE (Kristin @ Dec 6 2002, 09:30 PM)
I bought a gold membership at centsablemail because it was very cheap - and you got an ad sent out. ?I don't expect to get many referrals from this program....
It took me over 1 month and some weeks to get 1 referrarl.
Centsable has been around for awhile.. maybe that's why? I've went gold in a few programs. Some i've gained 50+ refs in.. other programs i've only got 1 or 2.
Every once on a while I see a login name that really makes me smile. Yours,
badkitty is unquie and very cute.
Thank you Shadowman
I'm really not THAT bad tho...
kittysdoc
Dec 6 2002, 10:02 PM
I beg to differ sweetheart!
serenemom
Dec 7 2002, 02:33 AM
I hate when webmaster's up their payout rate to double, triple and even higher what they began with. I join programs with webmaster's who have good reputations and new programs with reasonable payouts because I should be able to reach payout on my own with no referrals.
No1duckie
Dec 7 2002, 04:00 AM
So darn many pop-ups (SPAM) that it kills my computer and I have to reboot (this happens to me at least 3 times a night). I know that it is not my computer, I have 1G RAM, 110 G Virtual memory and PIII 650. At work I get the same problems on a DSL line running on my personal server.
shadowman
Dec 7 2002, 01:18 PM
QUOTE (No1duckie @ Dec 7 2002, 06:00 PM)
So darn many pop-ups (SPAM) that it kills my computer and I have to reboot (this happens to me at least 3 times a night). I know that it is not my computer, I have 1G RAM, 110 G Virtual memory and PIII 650. At work I get the same problems on a DSL line running on my personal server.
Yes I notice that their seems to be a new breed of popups from hades showing up. You can't close them, if you use ctlr and delete to close them, you either lose all your pages or you get a pc freeze. This is with a loaded cp,
lol 2 years ago, outdate in 6 months.
greydove
Dec 7 2002, 05:37 PM
I don't like links that are worth 0.00000025 cents (you get the point) ..takes forEVer to reach payout!!
kittysdoc
Dec 7 2002, 05:42 PM
QUOTE (No1duckie @ Dec 7 2002, 11:00 AM)
So darn many pop-ups (SPAM) that it kills my computer and I have to reboot (this happens to me at least 3 times a night). I know that it is not my computer, I have 1G RAM, 110 G Virtual memory and PIII 650. At work I get the same problems on a DSL line running on my personal server.
1G RAM!!! Jeez....after 512mbs you gain nothing at all..all you've done is wasted a bit of dosh, but of course thats up to you
No1duckie
Dec 7 2002, 10:17 PM
That depends on what programs you use. I run AutoCad and it will use all of the memory you can throw at it. A lot of the 3D drawing programs that I use also use the RAM, I gues it is something written into their scripts.
knight_ryder
Jan 17 2003, 10:24 PM
I dislike when a program advertises that they send out daily paid emails when they don't. I also dislike when it is time to request a payout the webmaster doesn't comply until days later. Also, the darn pop-ups! And finally, some programs having so many problems with their scripts or whatever. I mean I understand things like that happen but all the time?

I dunno. I just get tired of trying to login and check my stats and find that I get login error's saying I need to confirm my e-mail address or invalid user name...eh it just gets frustrating

but other than that I love GPTRE Programs!
DGE1754
Jan 17 2003, 10:30 PM
The pop ups stink I agree but to me the worst is the scumware downloads.
I was so sick and tired of deleting that crap of my puter so just put a block on all downloads and it has to prompt me first
I dont think some webmasters realise that stuff is even on their webpages
ILostMyTrueLove
Jan 17 2003, 10:40 PM
QUOTE (EMailCashFrenzy @ Dec 6 2002, 06:44 PM)
Members complaining about no emails but they don't advertise...

rofl
skarpa
Jan 17 2003, 10:42 PM
QUOTE (DGE1754 @ Jan 17 2003, 09:30 PM)
The pop ups stink I agree but to me the worst is the scumware downloads.
I was so sick and tired of deleting that crap of my puter so just put a block on all downloads and it has to prompt me first
I dont think some webmasters realise that stuff is even on their webpages
You may be absolutely right there! I use PopUpCop because I hate pop ups and crap! So, I would not be aware of too many pop ups in an ad.
Maybe if you get an ad that has a lot of pop ups, you might think about sending a quick note to the webmaster - they might appreciate the information. I know I would, I don't want to send out ads with a bunch of pop ups, I know everyone hates that!!!
mdegryse
Jan 17 2003, 10:48 PM
I hate pop-ups and 3/4 of a paidmail with all the ref-links the WM is in.
And also paypal only sites.
Also several sites changes there advertising rates if they have more members. Strange, when bought one the clicks received was the same like before with less users. But the price of the ad is doubled.
So I like most the sites that do a db clean every month. they maybe have only 2000 members but 70-80% of them is active.
Mario
RiffRandell
Jan 17 2003, 10:58 PM
I dislike the alteration of the decimal system regarding value of links.
Enchanted
Jan 17 2003, 11:19 PM
1. Multiple links that seem endless. Some webmasters send so many links
(just the link, no text) I wonder whether it is effective for the advertiser or
not.
2. Programs with $2 min payout that keep sending point mails or searches
that I wonder whether I would ever be able to reach that $2 in my lifetime.
3. Programs that say they will send 1-5 cent mails and all I get are 1/10,
1/4 or 1/2 cent mails. Hardly ever 1 cent mails and NEVER over 1 cent.
4. When I am very close to payout and find that the minimum payout has
been increased..lol.
billiev
Jan 17 2003, 11:40 PM
THIS IS A 5 CENT E-MAIL!!!.............and there are 50 1/10 of a cent links...........
Shelly
Jan 17 2003, 11:49 PM
QUOTE (billiev @ Jan 18 2003, 12:40 AM)
THIS IS A 5 CENT E-MAIL!!!.............and there are 50 1/10 of a cent links...........

AMEN!!!!!!!!!
mdegryse
Jan 17 2003, 11:49 PM
One 5 cent mail in a week and a very high payout (500$)
or 50 1/10cent links in a week with a reachable payout. (5$)
I don't need that 5 cent mail!
Mario
Zombie Master
Jan 17 2003, 11:49 PM
- Gold Membership too high. Not everyone lives in the US.
- Too high a payout amount that it's near impossible to get to without having referals.
- Changing the terms and conditions after you have signed up. Of which they a link should be sent out to let you know what they have changed and if you agree on it.
- Including personal expenditures in their account summaries showing that they made money and then dont do anything with the points in the way of point to cash exchange.
- Saying it costs so many points to cash out at, yet only send a 1 point link and all the rest cash.
- Too many popups on their sites.
*will add more as he thinks of them*
Enchanted
Jan 18 2003, 01:31 AM
joey26_2002
Jan 18 2003, 05:03 PM
driden Posted: Dec 7 2002, 08:16 AM
Senior Members
Group: Members
Posts: 209
Member No.: 5567
Joined: 20-November 02
one point on disclosure (although, i think it's a good idea in principle, don't get me wrong here) of emails sent
when you sign up, you have an area where you can choose your interests. some advertisers only pay for x amount of hits, and target it to specific interests so that they don't waste their money sending an email to someone who's not interested in the product.
now, if it's a disclosure such as 15 sent in this category, 12 sent in this category, 20 sent to members subscribed to categories x y and z, for a total of *grabs a calculator* 47 sent emails, that would be one thing
but if, for example, you just said "47 sent emails this month" (or whatever the period is), then people who didn't get some cause they didn't check a particular category are gonna start yelling "scam" and sending abusive emails to the webmaster
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Here's an interesting question for you driden and anyone else
who knows the best possible answer.
Ok,Suppose you're in a Paid to read program,Inboxdollars,
E-mailpaysu etc, Which catergories normally give you more
of a chance at more paid emails? I used to think it was
business type interests and financial but interested to
hear you guy's take on this question.
kjewat
Jan 18 2003, 05:38 PM
When they loose their database and dont have backup!
I lost more than 1000 referrals at Staradmoney a couple of days ago!
Well, i guess everyone can make mistakes... The will probably never do it again..
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