I'm so tired of requesting payout, only to be told I won't get paid for weeks and weeks. But if I dare stop clicking, that's it, I'm toast! Not only that, but all the people that reached payout after me will get paid first because they do keep clicking. None of the TOS say that all those clickers get paid before me, even though I have reached payout first.
What is the point of this? I've been a member of some of these programs for over 2 years. How much of my time have I wasted over those 2 years? All of it, it seems.
And if I dare ask when I'll be paid? That's grounds to close my account, it seems ...
This is too tiring. I'm gonna go redeem for ads where ever possible, and forget about the money I'm owed. Who knows how much of it I'll ever see?
Full Version: I'm so tired of clicking
I feel your pain. When I think how long I clicked on a couple of these programs to earn the measly payout and they still haven't paid me after 6 months, it really makes me angry, so I just try not to think about it. I sure don't click like I used to, that's for sure. I'd be MUCH more likely to click everything if these PO's would pay within their TOS.
Hi links - I hope other than this you are ok, I lost your 'real' email addy when my oe crashed some months ago 
I wish there was some comeback when programs play with their tos like this! It is cases like this where it seems like the tos are written just for the po and not for the member, anything that is put in the tos to protect the member, like you will be paid in 30 days, always seems to be what gets changed under the 'we may alter these tos at our discretion with no forewarning'. Then of course if you complain they usually have a note to say that if you complain in public you will be deleted for disrespecting the po.
I think we are going to have to be a bit more prescient and self serving in some of these programs. At the first sign of trouble, raising payout, silly ad prices, late payouts, dodgy terms changes etc we are going to have to start redeeming and getting out and finding a program that does respect the members and continues to do so. Those programs might not pay as much now, but if we all move our support with clicking and buying ads to these programs then in the future maybe they will pay more. I know you cant always predict that a program is going wrong, but I do think in 80% to 90% of them you can. Times like that you have to look out for number one, yes we have to support the good programs but if they are not going to look after their members they dont deserve our support!
I wish there was some comeback when programs play with their tos like this! It is cases like this where it seems like the tos are written just for the po and not for the member, anything that is put in the tos to protect the member, like you will be paid in 30 days, always seems to be what gets changed under the 'we may alter these tos at our discretion with no forewarning'. Then of course if you complain they usually have a note to say that if you complain in public you will be deleted for disrespecting the po.
I think we are going to have to be a bit more prescient and self serving in some of these programs. At the first sign of trouble, raising payout, silly ad prices, late payouts, dodgy terms changes etc we are going to have to start redeeming and getting out and finding a program that does respect the members and continues to do so. Those programs might not pay as much now, but if we all move our support with clicking and buying ads to these programs then in the future maybe they will pay more. I know you cant always predict that a program is going wrong, but I do think in 80% to 90% of them you can. Times like that you have to look out for number one, yes we have to support the good programs but if they are not going to look after their members they dont deserve our support!
I agree, if I have reached payout it means I have been active and deserve to be paid what I earned. I should not have to remain a top clicker just to get the money I have already earned. I have done my job and I should be paid.
I am with (atleast) one of those sites that pays those who are more active clickers first. I am still waiting for payout even though I have clicked most of the emails-I haven't clicked all of them.
Endless cycle-Click to earn-click to GET earnings.
I am with (atleast) one of those sites that pays those who are more active clickers first. I am still waiting for payout even though I have clicked most of the emails-I haven't clicked all of them.
Endless cycle-Click to earn-click to GET earnings.
I know what you mean. It does get really frustrating waiting so long to be paid.
Especially if it takes a long time to reach payout in the first place.
Especially if it takes a long time to reach payout in the first place.
i agree, check this out where i just posted relating to this exact thing:
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...ic=196065&st=75
sorry, didn't want to post it twice.
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...ic=196065&st=75
sorry, didn't want to post it twice.
| QUOTE (Links2Cash @ Jul 1 2004, 11:34 PM) |
| I'm so tired of requesting payout, only to be told I won't get paid for weeks and weeks. But if I dare stop clicking, that's it, I'm toast! Not only that, but all the people that reached payout after me will get paid first because they do keep clicking. None of the TOS say that all those clickers get paid before me, even though I have reached payout first. What is the point of this? I've been a member of some of these programs for over 2 years. How much of my time have I wasted over those 2 years? All of it, it seems. And if I dare ask when I'll be paid? That's grounds to close my account, it seems ... This is too tiring. I'm gonna go redeem for ads where ever possible, and forget about the money I'm owed. Who knows how much of it I'll ever see? |
I hear ya.
90% of the programs that I'm in are used to redeem for ads because they have good redemptions but may be well behind on payouts. The other 10% I know either pay quickly or within a reasonable time so I'll go for payout with them.
You need to sit down one day and be methodical in sorting out your programs for redemption, payout or a bit of both. Also have some programs OUTSIDE ptr that you want to promote(and know they pay). Set goals for yourself and be ruthless with programs that are going nowhere with no hope of return. Don't feel loyal to a program that paid you a year ago but doesn't answer your mail now.
There is hope and there are programs out there that are working, unfortunately, it may take you some time to work out which.
Best of luck.
Carole Stacey of Mec-co-op-paidmail has stated on this forum that she pays people she deletes for inactivity, if they have met the requirements for cashout and requested back when they were still a member in good standing. I really wish more PO's would do this. Does anyone know of any more who do?
This is the chances you take when your invloved with gptr. You know the bad ones from the good ones, and hopefully keep up with the GOOD ones. You don't know until you find out..... but if you work hard clicking and not getting paid, it really bites
I do know how you feel. It's very frustrating. But I wonder what you'll redeem ads for? You must still have some programs you trust or are you doing the redemptions for searches or something? I've heard a lot of them don't pay, also.
| QUOTE (Wily1North @ Jul 1 2004, 06:06 PM) |
| i agree, check this out where i just posted relating to this exact thing: http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...ic=196065&st=75 sorry, didn't want to post it twice. |
What you mention in the thread in that link, I think more folks are going that route than you may be aware of.....not clicking any more than absolutely necessary to remain active until they see the color of the site's money.
I am a member of a site that has had a few bad posts about payout, not as many as the 5-centers, but a few.
I logged in today after 7 days not clicking there. I click on the oldest ad that had a 1000 limit, and it went. Just to check I clicked on a 7 day old 500 limit ad, and it went too. This is a site with over 6,000 members. Looks like either 5,500+ are waiting to see how long it takes to get paid before being too active or they have quit and the site doesn't want to let advertisers see just how many active clickers are left!
Edited because I had a small case of spellitis.
I am feeling the same way these days. I use to be excited about all this because
of the marketing aspect of it and of course the money, but lately I have seen
no money or very little to far between and the marketing has gotten to tireing for me. I am to tired to start all over with any new ones and I am stuck in old
ones that I use to earn and get paid from. I guess now it is more of an
addiction than anything that is keeping me in this business.
of the marketing aspect of it and of course the money, but lately I have seen
no money or very little to far between and the marketing has gotten to tireing for me. I am to tired to start all over with any new ones and I am stuck in old
ones that I use to earn and get paid from. I guess now it is more of an
addiction than anything that is keeping me in this business.
| QUOTE (yetanotherphoenix @ Jul 2 2004, 05:23 PM) | ||
What you mention in the thread in that link, I think more folks are going that route than you may be aware of.....not clicking any more than absolutely necessary to remain active until they see the color of the site's money. I am a member of a site that has had a few bad posts about payout, not as many as the 5-centers, but a few. I logged in today after 7 days not clicking there. I click on the oldest ad that had a 1000 limit, and it went. Just to check I clicked on a 7 day old 500 limit ad, and it went too. This is a site with over 6,000 members. Looks like either 5,500+ are waiting to see how long it takes to get paid before being too active or they have quit and the site doesn't want to let advertisers see just how many active clickers are left! Edited because I had a small case of spellitis. |
yes that's happened to me a few times too. sites that used to have everyone clamoring over the links, where you had to practically sit in the pos lap so you could be one of the "lucky" ones, have now become stagnant. you can't blame people for losing interest. if a site doesn't make money, they don't continue to operate, they close. and that's what's happening with members. we're closing.
| QUOTE (kglaser @ Jul 2 2004, 12:53 AM) |
| Carole Stacey of Mec-co-op-paidmail has stated on this forum that she pays people she deletes for inactivity, if they have met the requirements for cashout and requested back when they were still a member in good standing. I really wish more PO's would do this. Does anyone know of any more who do? |
That's good cos she never used to do that.
Unless a member is found to be cheating I agree that they should be paid for the work they have done to reach payout regardless of their activity after requesting. Would be a good addition to the cc script if John could put something to show if there is an outstanding request that would prevent the po being able to delete those members for inactivity unless they go thru a special process on each account to tick a box to say that they have checked the account for validity and taken hard copy and backup of that account to keep the member in the payout queue.
Tiggy keeps copies of deleted members so that she can still pay them their earnings. There are a couple of other programs that have the addition to the tos that you can be paid a percentage of your earnings if you leave before reaching payout too. Programs like those need to be supported above these that make people keep clicking for 6 months to 'maybe' get the money they have legitimately earned up til now. And members need to make it clear that they want clauses like these to protect their interests in programs. An unhappy member is not going to be a supportive member for the advertisers, it is in the po's best interests to keep their members happy!
I know that some sites are having a hard time keeping up with payments.
But as far as redeeming for ads? I could do that in some programs, but I worked hard for that money. For example, I have a program I've been in for over a year. The po is having a hard time paying people. Okay. But if I want to redeem for ads, say I decide to send them to SAS, where I know I'll get paid.
I can buy 500 PTCs, so I would earn .30 at SAS for my $5 at the other site. Whooppee! If pos are having a hard time paying, then peeps who have reached payout should maybe have a special redemption for them only. If I could get 5,000 clicks that paid members 1/10th of a cent, I'd gladly pay my full account balance of $5.73 for those clicks. 5,000 clicks at SAS would give me $3.00 cash and $2.00 noncashable, and I'd be happy.
And the po's shouldn't rerun the payout list every time they get a little bit of money for payouts. Print 1 list, and pay people in order! Then rerun the list.
But as far as redeeming for ads? I could do that in some programs, but I worked hard for that money. For example, I have a program I've been in for over a year. The po is having a hard time paying people. Okay. But if I want to redeem for ads, say I decide to send them to SAS, where I know I'll get paid.
I can buy 500 PTCs, so I would earn .30 at SAS for my $5 at the other site. Whooppee! If pos are having a hard time paying, then peeps who have reached payout should maybe have a special redemption for them only. If I could get 5,000 clicks that paid members 1/10th of a cent, I'd gladly pay my full account balance of $5.73 for those clicks. 5,000 clicks at SAS would give me $3.00 cash and $2.00 noncashable, and I'd be happy.
And the po's shouldn't rerun the payout list every time they get a little bit of money for payouts. Print 1 list, and pay people in order! Then rerun the list.
Thats why I am staying away from all these new sites that have better benefits for searchers. I dont mind a few searches a day but not 50. But if you are an active searcher your payout is lower. Thank god there are a few good sites out there that dont rely on searches.
| QUOTE (kglaser @ Jul 1 2004, 11:53 PM) |
| Carole Stacey of Mec-co-op-paidmail has stated on this forum that she pays people she deletes for inactivity, if they have met the requirements for cashout and requested back when they were still a member in good standing. I really wish more PO's would do this. Does anyone know of any more who do? |
Sure, I do.
When deleting inactive members, I always check against the payout list to make sure none of them have gone inactive while waiting for payment.
The way I see it, they ARE being active, they're putting up with me until they receive their payment.
Luckily, 95% of payouts have been 30 days or less, and 100% within 60 days.
Continuing with the conversation about paying a percentage of account earnings if a member decides to leave the program early...
These are taken from the PaidProgramReview redemption page:
Early $0.50 Payout!
Spend Cash $ 1.75
Early $1.25 Payout!
Spend Cash $ 2.75
Early $2.25 Payout!
Spend Cash $ 4
These are taken from the PaidProgramReview redemption page:
Early $0.50 Payout!
Spend Cash $ 1.75
Early $1.25 Payout!
Spend Cash $ 2.75
Early $2.25 Payout!
Spend Cash $ 4
I dont think that people should have to wait to be paid. I also dont think that people should have to be active if they are waiting to be paid. Thats what that vacation button is for. I really think that programs that MAKE you stay active after you have requested cashout are just holding you hostage knowing they wont have to pay you if they can delete you for inactivity.
I might not be the brightest bulb in the lamp but I know that holding a member hostage for payout is not the way to keep them members AFTER they receive that payout. ( or if )
I might not be the brightest bulb in the lamp but I know that holding a member hostage for payout is not the way to keep them members AFTER they receive that payout. ( or if )
You better believe it!
For programs where I have been waiting for payouts that exceed TOS I am barely reading.....just enough to keep me active.
Imagine having to wait for a $5+ payment since Jan. 28/04 and gritting your teeth because you have to read another email....I refuse to quit until I get paid since I have been waiting so long...what's another few months....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
In frustration; when I finally get paid, I delete myself. Remaining part of a program that does not honour it's commitment in a timely manner does not interest me in the least.
For programs where I have been waiting for payouts that exceed TOS I am barely reading.....just enough to keep me active.
Imagine having to wait for a $5+ payment since Jan. 28/04 and gritting your teeth because you have to read another email....I refuse to quit until I get paid since I have been waiting so long...what's another few months....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
In frustration; when I finally get paid, I delete myself. Remaining part of a program that does not honour it's commitment in a timely manner does not interest me in the least.
I think people in here should stop joining too many program. It is going to make YOU SUPER DEPRESS. If you are not getting paid.
I use to have more than 30 program. It making me having a huge heache since I spent so much time starting computer all days long.
I only join the program Who are really pay me in the past.
I use to have more than 30 program. It making me having a huge heache since I spent so much time starting computer all days long.
I only join the program Who are really pay me in the past.
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