scmedia
Jun 29 2004, 10:11 PM
I find it very degrading to advertisers for these web sites to be opening specializing only in search mailings. This is absolutely incentivizing searches and not to mention killing alot of revenue and valid clicks that real hard working WM's that dont send gigantic numbers of searches making it that much harder to obtain valid clicks cause the Search only Sites send like 40 search mails a day which just kills the Search engine industry. Any other program owners or even Search Engine Masters think that there sites should be banned from sites claiming search only or only accepts members from searching countries. God im tired so I hope i didnt confuse anyone with this post lol
boots
Jun 30 2004, 03:09 AM
Why are you against sites that have a target audiance?
Please dont cry because some people are operating a different biz plan and getting different results. Targeted audiance sites are another opton in PTR just like Ads only, PTC sites, No-Search sites and others.
Any PTR must have a clear image of your advertisers and member, customize a package to meet both of thier needs then conduct the site in a way to provide what is promised. This is called meeting the markets demands.
You could write the same thing about Ads only sites and say they are killing the ad prices because they do not need to pay members. But they meet the needs of a different group of members and advertisers plus generate different type of results.
If you can not find advertisers it could be the product you are selling is not right for the market and your members are not motivated to do any thing for the advertisers.
PS. How did running a site with a "payout ready" clean data base become easy work? Running a Targeted site requires you keep the promise to the advertisers and have the members only in that group. Also members are motivated because the site pays, no reason to further incetivise them than running a fair quality site.
Very proud to have paid members $350 this month and have all payments up to date within the last 24 hours. That is why members participate and we will keep doing this as long as both members and advertisers are interested in our programs
JFS
Jun 30 2004, 07:02 AM
i'm sorry but i'm not "with" you on this.
if a site is specialized on searches and ppl join it's fine...if you don't like it why ban it? they haven't done nothing wrong, if they only do searches and you only mails or clicks what's the problem?
sorry i don't understand your point of view
scmedia
Jun 30 2004, 10:18 AM
When I wrote that post I was half asleep so I didnt type it all out very well. What my issue is from the advertiser point of view, having web sites that specialize in search only is straight out saying "We are paying you to search" and wearing it on there sleeve, this not only is incentivizing but is costing us that do have listings with the search engines alot of money, im like many advertisers, i dont mind sites sending out one or two search ads or having people purchase a search ads to target specific groups but when it comes to 20 and 30 search ads from one single site on a daily basis that is when it becomes excessive, knocks click thru ratios down in to the floor and costs us a lot of wasted web site visitors because of it.
Most search engines state that "No incentivizing traffic" well having a paid to web site that sends nothing but searches is incentivizing traffic. Im not actually saying ban such sites and theres no crying involved because I have been in this business an extremely long time so I fully know how to handle the profit and loss situation but what I am looking for is the search engine owners point of view on it nothing more, if they have a rational as to why its allowed then fine, but please dont come jumping down my throat talking about "Crying or whining" im a high paying advertiser with a few feeds and deserve a rational behind such web sites.
JFS
Jun 30 2004, 03:29 PM
ahhh now i understand it cleary

you have many things correct like the drop of the income for the searches and some more.
thanks for explaining better
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