I am really astonished and enraged at this woman... Yes i mean the mec-co-op-paid-email admin. She is doing something very very immoral. She is using her program to dupe the naive members of her program. She's offering different kinds of returns on 1heluva investments. She'll do all the work for her members. Invest, click, etc. But here's the catch... She knows these poor members can't advertise much or have access to funds to buy clicks on traffic/ click exchanges, SO she is asking them to give her their money and she'll invest for them... OK... this isn't wrong... is it? Here comes the bad part. She is running different programs to return investments to her members. The latest i read is 50%/month for 6 months... Ok But i know very well 1Heluva pays you for whole 1 year... NOT 6 MONTHS.
Those of you who are members of 1Heluva know what stacking is...... She is just stacking accounts to get her ROI to 50% on the accounts and after 6 months, She'll make tens of thousands of dollars on money deposited by her investors, for herself for the rest of 6 months... simple isn' it? 300% return to investors to her members in 6 months... Then investors are out and for next 6 months she'll be getting all the profits on her investor's money...

Here's an example... Let's suppose i am an investor and i invest $1000 into her program. As promised, She'll pay be 50% each month for 6 months.....

Months. Payment
1 $500
2 $500
3 $500
4 $500
5 $500
6 $500

since 1Heluva pays you for 1 year on your investments, so for the next six months she'll be making $500/ month as pure profits which'll go not to me, but to her. These profits will grow manyfolds if she reinvest these profits into her original investments and by making new accounts under old ones..... She know she has a lot of money and she's even offering attractive signup bonuses to attract investors to signup under her...

WHAT A SHAME!!!!

You deserve to burn in ###### for what you are doing lady... But i guess a woman like you doesn't believe in the concept of right and wrong, heaven and ######, fair and unfair, life and death, Getting scammed and Being a scammer.

If you dont like what she's doing..DONT sign up...its as simple as that

dear nze,
so you do admit what i said is right.. Rather than taking someone's side unjustly 'casue she might be your friend or anything, Think about people who aren't like you or me.. Who don't know they are getting 300%, but at the same time getting robbed of another 300%... Think about it.. ask yourself and have a clear mind..

People are not getting robbed of another 300%.
That offer is for the people who can't get 300% /year.

This issue is already mentioned at this thread.( paidbanner thread)

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...1b50f941a5a5472

Cibean

1) I didnt admit to anything

2) Carole isnt my friend

3) Common sense tells us,NEVER sign up for anything until youre 100% sure of the advantages and disadvantages

I am just a person who is fed up of seeing carole bashing or any bashing threads for that matter.I dont care about math and i dont take sides because frankly,where do i benefit from all this?

Oh and yes,i have a very clear mind which takes me back to the common sense thing..if you dont understand anything fully...DONT SIGN UP FOR IT...its that simple,really.

I'm not taking any sides in this matter but I have my 2 cents to say,
If I understand this correctly Carole isn't exactly doing anything illegal when she offers profit from the 6 months and not the whole year, lets take your own example, you invest 1000$ and get 500$ per month for those 6 months time = 3000$ What's the big deal??? You invest 1000$ and get 3000$ So she gets those extra 6 months, start your own GPTR program advertice in some traffic exchange and offer the same deal! Why would any of us be here if it wasn't for the money?? It's all business and besides, don't invest if you don't like it, if I had 1000$ extra in my pocket and I knew for a fact that after 6 months I would have 3000$ I would think really hard why I shouldn't invest, But hey, that's just me.

"If the deal she's offering is somehow illegal, I have other opinions but for now this is it"

What are you going on about?

Carole is merely offering people the chance to invest money and make a profit, whats wrong with that?

After all, she is taking all the risks, she has done all the work to get her accounts up to 50%, I know as I'm one of her downline members and she has helped me out no end, I've had free adverts off her, she's invested $5.00 in about 50 accounts that are below me, actually she even has another account in my downline!

Whats up with you? Are you one of the Anti-mec crew just coming here to stir up a fuss over nothing?

Have you nothing better to do with your life?

I tell you what, you do what Carole has done, get your accounts up to 600% and I'll invest $1,000, so will you give me the $500 for the FULL 12 months?

No? Didn't think so...

Oh and have you forgot, lets say Carole pays all these users out up until May and has not collected nothing herself at that time. Then 1Heluva goes bust, whose lost out on thousands of dollars?

The investors? Nope cos they've been paid

Carole? Yep, as she wouldn't have made a cent and in fact be a few grand down.

There are far worse things going on in 1Heluva, what about these people that are asking user to jump ship on their downline and join theirs? I find that FAR more disturbing and anyone poached one of my downline, I would literally cause murder and that person wouldn't hear the last of it.

So wind your neck in will you and go and find another WM to badmouth!!!

So do you have a 1Heluva account?

If so is this account at 600%?

If so, can I invest in it and be guarenteed a 600% profit on this investment?

Nope, didn't think so....

Hi,


Carole build a team allowing her members to have more ROI on their investment than what they would have being on their own. She organises it, she takes the risks, if she earns something out of her work, isn't it simply logical ? And it's not even sure she will yet .... 1H could close any day like any other site.

And if you don't like the idea, just click on the 1 and 5 cents mails she regularly sends out to explain it and cash-out whenever you want .... mec co op is a good GPTREM and don't force you to join 1H to benefit from your mec co op account, so, why not go for it ? ;-)

Sophie

CiBean....this is yet another attempt at someone trying to bring someone down who is doing well....In Australia, we call it the tall poppy syndrome.......which means you, or people like you can not stand anyone being successful...and will nit pick everything about this person, and want to see her fail....Shame on you!!

If this is your only worry.....you need to get a life!

i know a couple of people who suffer from this....

poppy syndrome my ***

No i am not on 600% but i am trying hard for it and will be there soon...

If successful is being all abut taking other people's money and using it for one's own good, then i am sure i can see a lot of posts from unethical, immoral and charachterless people here.

If you want a fair return btw, try ez-bucks or any other good investment program where they give you what they say they will, no strings attached.

I have an idea. Carole should tell her members that she'll pay them for 6 months only and the rest 6 monhs she'll eat profits from their money. I'll see how many people she gets....

ANother program of hers is where she asks people to signup under her and surf 50 pages, deposit money and she'll add a bonus to their accounts. Sure this suonds great... But wait.. This'll only add to her own account's ROI while the poor new account holders will be stuck seeing their money getting doomed, unless they don't have anything else to do but click 6000 pages a month for a year, which will only earn them 20% profit. what do ya say about that.

If she's that good, she should wirte all the catches involved in opening an account under her, in her mails, rather then telling people to open an account under her and then luring them with all sorts of lousy rewards. She doesn't even help her downline in getting new members under them. She gets all the dough.. They only lose it.

ah you guys,we are so dumb!!!!This was an ad all along and we didnt notice it..oh how really dumb of us..

now please proceed to the advertising folder and put your recommendations there!!!

Well cibean, answer my question then, if you DO get to 600% can I invest in your account and be assured of a 600% profit?

To me, it seems you're just jealous, so don't come out with morals and all that c**p, we're not here to gain moralistic lessons, we're here to make MONEY, and before you say you're not, then why are you in any of these programs?

YES, to make money!!!

from an email she send to the members:

[QUOTE]I'm going to be making an offer for future investors, and i don't want any hard feelings here.


I'll be offering 300% return with payback starting Jan 3rd but at 25% a month for 12 months.
Kind of a 50-50 deal.

I do all the work,
I do all the surfing necessary
I do all the downline building

And we split 50-50[QUOTE]


like you can see its very clear that we split the potential profit
if you agree you invest, if you disagree you dont
its not everyone who can built a downline and can/want to surf 5000 pages/month
so we can risk the money without nothing more involved

and for the signup bonus she offer if you surf 50 page: there is plenty of ppl who offered the same thing if we sign under them, nothing new under the sun

i think 1Heluva will bite the dust sooner or later, at some point the new fresh money invested by members will not be enought to pay the pending ROI and at that point the people will became to loose faith in the program... but this is another story

LOL @ cybean

Carole sends ads, it's what it is for 1H, an ad with an offer, you like the offer or not, you take the offer or not, that's up to you .... doesn't make someone a scam because she makes you an offer you agreed to receive.

If you don' t like the ad, you take the cent she pays you to read the ad and be happy :-)

Sophie

Hi cibean ,

I'm sorry . I really don't understand the problem . Do you think she should give all the profits back to the investors ? How would you change the plan to correct what you think is wrong with it ?

Doesn't she obviously have to return some of the profits back to her investers ? Banks use my money all the time and their moneys grow much fatter then mine . I put money in my account , do nothing but leave it alone and I get a little extra money added to my account . I don't expect them to give me all the profits for use of my money . What would be their incentive if they couldn't make something too ?

I don't think Carol is going anywhere and since I'm a member of mec-co-op , I would bet that if this plan stays stable that all members of her gpt will reap benefits there too . We're already getting more and larger paying cash e-mails .

On the second scenario , doesn't anyone that is invested get random ref's , sort of like a gold membership ? Or only if they invest over a certain amount ?

You really are pathetic aren't you?

What do you suggest Carole does?

Maybe you'd be happier if she done the following for her referrals:

Lets see, she gets a referral, invests $4,000 in THEIR account, does the surfing for them and gets all the referrals they want!

Now would that make you happy?

Is this the type of thing you do?

Just give up will you, you're just making yourself look more pathetic by the minute, its a case of Carole steering users to the site themselves and for these users to get off their backsides and do some work themselves, instead of just taking a ride on someone elses success.

I myself offered the EXACT same offer during November and 1,000's of other did as well!!!

I wouldn't mind, I bet you're one of these leeches thats offering users to jump ship and join your downline, now THAT is unmoralistic and sad!

Oh and another thing, seeing as though Carole has an account below me, I can see her downline, you wouldn't believe the amount of referrals she has invested $5.00 into their account, only for these same users not to invest nothing themselves and they're not even bothering to surf.

So for all the money she will be making, she's losing a lot trying to get these people to participate in the program!

Oh I forgot, thats wrong in your books isn't it? I mean why should her poor unsuspecting victims be expected to actually do something themselves?

Oh Good Grief!

Here we go again.

First of all, do you actually believe my members don't realize i'll eventually earn on their money, providing 1heluva survives that long?????

The investors, are 2 kinds of people.

1. Someone who does not have the funds to invest $4000 into 2 accounts to earn 600% a year.

2. Someone who doesn't have the ability to build invested downlines to increase their ROI so they make a profit

3. (i know i said 2 but here's the third)
Someone who has joined, but doesn't have their acccount anywhere up to 50% a month, and is taking advantage of my offer for a few months, and will re-invest the 50% i pay them into their acounts once they get it up to profit etc.

Everyone knows that payback depends on 1heluva's survival and they trust me enough that if i get paid, they will be paid back as promissed.

They aren't dummies, who don't realize i'm eventually going to profit from their money, but so what....If they put $100 into the bank, they get 2% a year. I'm giving them $200 back and now my offer is $300 back on $100

If they invest in the stock market today, or any day for that matter, they could loose their shirt too.

Yes it's a risk, but obviously one they are comforatable enough taking.

The way i see it, the original post was posted by the green-eyed-monster!

I have not begged anyone to send me money.
I made an offer, because never in my wildest dreams did i ever expect to get 3 accounts up to 50%

I lucked out.

One guy invested under me, then stacked another account,
I put my next account under his 2nd account.
A gal signed up under my 2nd account and invested heavily.....

I did not stack any accounts.

I was surfing the 3rd account (which is actually the 4th) at 10% when i watched it jump up to 50%

All of this was totally unexpected.

When i started the investment offer, i expected a few people trusted me enough to send me $5, or $10 bucks, maybe even $50 to $100

Never i a million years did i expect anyone to send me $200-$1500 as they did.

So i have 2 accounts at maximum investments
1 has room for maybe $2500


My 3rd account is at 10% which i just reached, so there's not much in it.
I'll get it to 50%, i know that, it may not be so quick, but i'll get it there.

All my investors will be paid as promissed, providing 1heluva pays me.
Should 1heluva fold, then i can't pay.
I've been very clear about that.
They know this.
They appreciate the opportunity i gave them, because had i not given them the opportunity, their other choice is a savings account or an IRA at 6% or less.

People take risks every day. Some make money, some loose money.

Whoever started this post is just obviously viewing me as competition to them and obviously jealous of the success i've had in such a short period of time.


On the other hand, should i reach the point in May 1st and have everyone paid back, and then in June 1heluva dissapears, i'm the only looser, and all i've lost is my time and effort.

It wouldn't be the first time, i invested my time and effort building something, only to have the program dissapear...


Alladvantage
Mvalue
Jotter
epipo
Speedline downline club (i had a downline of 8000!!!) never saw a penny of what was owed to me

Cash Active (same owner as speedline 9000 in my downline), never saw a penny!!!!

So like everyone here says. You don't like my offer?????? Don't invest!!!

You like it, and are willing to take the risk, then invest....The choice is yours!

My offer, affords those who can't do it on their own an opportunity they wouldn't otherwize have!

Thanks Lexie.
Yes, i'm lowering ad prices to try to get some cash mails in.
Yesterday and the day before i sent out 8 cash mails simply because i'll make up the difference from 1heluva earnings.


As it was i was allowing a 1cent to all for $25, which i reduced to $15

if it werent' for potential 1heluva profits, i couldn't do that.

So all mec-co members will benefit from my involvement in 1heluva.

It's my way of paying back

#1 the investors
#2 the members not invested, not signed up, but who put up with all these mails about 1heluva.

So nobody's loosing and i'm sharing profits with all members in some way or another.

thanks for pointing out the business end of it. Some people just have no common sense.

THey think i'm here for their convenience. God help me if i make some $$????

Some people have WAY too much time on their hands......

I'm getting paid by eppipo in January 2003 according to lawsuit filed. I hope you got the letter also about this Carole

i myself haven't signed up under her for a few reasons

a: when i looked at it, it looked like you had to put in money. since i'm at a position now of coming up with $2250 by the middle of december for the back mortgage that i owe or celebrating christmas on a street corner, i don't exactly have anything to invest

b: i'm not really sure how it works with the investment, and surfing to get so much roi with stacking of accounts and referals etc etc etc

c: i'm horrible at getting referals. in fact, for mec co op, i don't even have any, and i've been a member for... six months i think? something like that. a while now, we'll put it that way

so what do i do when i get the emails from her about it? if there's a link to get paid, great, if not (although usually there is), oh well, i get mec co op through my zwallet address, so i'm getting paid to click it anyway

so my suggestion is simple: do one of the following

a: delete the emails without reading them
b: look for a link, then delete
c: drop out of mec co op, and give me any downline you got, as well as your current earnings (please? )

just my half a cent. i can't throw in 2 cents, i'm too broke

I got the letter, but didn't bother with it.

I got paid once by epipo into an account i had to open i think with e-count.

It probably still had the $5 in it as i can't take it out because there's a min withdrawal, so as far as i'm concerned even that $5 payout was a scam.

Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity

1-800-829-0433

1Heluva is an ILLEGAL PYRAMID SCHEME

call the IRS for your self I just talked to them

did they give you this answer from just what you told them, or did they visit the actual website?

That guy said he was at the at the website and he had to do something to leave the network he was to go on the Internet

what tax fraud are you talking about Jay,

i will be paying taxes on 1heluva as well as others if they are honest.

its "other income"

this is not a pryamid scheme

its a traffic excchange

you are paying premieum just like other traffic exchanges that you can pay to upgrade.

you dont need a downline with this program.

how come you invested 40.00 Jay? if this is illegal as you "say"

When is this "Bashing Carole" show will ever end? The last couple of threads got way off topic. Now, this one is starting to go off topic as well.

Hi Poncer LOL

I didnt even realize the title. Sometimes I just read threads and i saw Jay's answer so I replied to it.

you're right.

this is definitely off topic now.

sorry,

Not as far off topic as some of the other mec-co posts...LOL

At least we're still discussing the legality of 1heluva.

#1 nobody is forced to invest anything.
They can join free, and use it as a surfing for hits exchange.

#2 for a $5 min investment you get a better click ratio

Any investments over $5 are by members choice to invest and a huge return.

Of course some people aren't going to make anything and they'll loose all or a portion of their money.
#1 they don't surf
#2 they don't promote and build
#3 they don't invest.

So it's really up to the person,
if they are a good promoter, then by all means they should take their own accounts and build on them.
Invest according to their downlines investment.

THere's a calculator to do senario's with.

I'd never invest more than my downline as the return would loose me money.

I have an account under Brian, that has very little in it, simply because the only investments are the $5's i put in their accounts for surfing 50 pages.

Lot of them stopped surfing after that.

Well if they don't surf any more, they won't have more than a few cents return on that $5 so the $5 is lost to me which is why i'm discontinuing it next month.

I now say that if they invest $10 in themselves and surf 50 pages, i'll put another $5 in their account.

With the new changes next month, they'll at least be able to get 120% a year on that money if they surf 6000 pages a month.

of course the upline will get 10% of the surfing credits which will be 600 hits, i think that's worth $5 to me.
webearners was 1cent a visit.
lot's of programs sell clicks at 1cent or more.

Of course by saying i won't put $5 in their accounts unless they invest $10, i'll get less signups, but the quality will be better.
by quality, i don't mean heavy investors,

Surfing 6000 pages a month is a quality member to me.

I've had more signups for mec-co-op since i joined 1heluva. I don't know if it's the fact they see my name up in the top 100, or top recruiters etc, but i'm getting about 50-100 new members a day at mec-co

So 1heluva is a great hit exchange. I've used them all, and this is the best!

I worked for the IRS for 5 years in NY and take it from me, 90% of the people that work there don't know what they're talking about.
Especially those you get on the phone.
They know zippo.....
usually seasonal workers with very little training, and they don't interpret the tax laws right.

They have an error system which rewards you're work, if you get under certain amount of errors (incentive bonus)

Well i worked in under-reporting and data input, and got plenty of incentive bonus's.

I also got errors 1 year, for doing something one way, only for them to change it the following way to the way i did it the year before....

LOL

Even the leads that check your work, make errors in decisions and interpretation.

They change the rules 3-5 times a day,

Then the cases you already worked on, you can't go back and change to the new rules.

It's a joke!!!!

most disorganized and unprofessional place i ever worked at in my life.

Carol , I agree . I worked with Jackson Hewitt ( some time ago ) and found that I could call the IRS and get a different answer from a different person for the same question . If I asked 3 different ppl , I could possibly get 3 different answers . And I've also found that many times if a rule is made , someone could find and exception to that rule . This is probably why I would get 3 different answers LOL!

I agree seasonal workers doesn't know what the heck they are talking about MOST of the time!

LOL, Lexie, that sounds like Blueyonder, my ISP and Cable provider

You phone up about three times and get three different answers!

Hmm, I wonder if Blueyonder run the IRS over the in the USA, lol, only joking

yes Jackson Hewitt...that name sounds SO familiar!

hey thats not fair!!!!!well,true but still not fair

but it's true~! it's not fair for the seasonal workers cuz they don't get proper training ...and they can't in such a short period of time...

THat's not true!!

Every worker starts out as seasonal, they get the same 3 week training course everyone else does.

It takes time and efficiency to become a permenent worker.

The problem is, a lot of seasonal worker only work a few weeks, then get laid off a few months, by the time they come back there have been thousands of changes and they don't get re-trained.

Now i consider myself very effient and very effective, but having been away from their system for 12 years, if i went back, i'd have to learn all over again.

Things change constantly.

I've seen rules changed 3-4 times in one day!

I think these so-called rulemakers need to justify their jobs!

LOL

From what i saw, the IRS is nothing more than a glorified paper factory.

The best part was when the govt put out the wasted paper law..
Everyone had to stop wasting paper, but the government continued printing their stuff with 3 carbons, which got thrown away immediately.

What a waste!

I had to take the same oath the President takes!
God forbid you had bad credit because of a temporary problem, you couldn't embarras them in any way shape or form. After all it was a privilege to work there.

I went nuts.

I've always been professional in a work atmosphere.
These H.S. kids didn't consider their job a real job.
One would sit there and shove raisins up her nose, then blow them out all over the place.

another would dance on the tables.

I was told by the lead, that if i were to survive, i'd have to learn to go with the flow (which i eventually did, but let me tell you, it was an experience i'll never forget).

And these are the jerks you speak to on the phone.....

And yes, you'll get different answers from different people.

I've fought them and won many times (not for myself, but for clients)

They honestly do not know how to interpret their rule book.

Hey, there's supervisors that don't know what they're talking about either.

They have secure jobs and depend on their leads to have all the answers...

My supervisor had less training than i did.

THey go to managers meetings more than training.

They are just there to keep order, most don't even know the job and couldn't do it if they had to.

ROFL!!!! Are you serious, hehehehehe!!!

Jay, did the conversation you had with the IRS person sound like this?
(snort) Hello? (thwack) Can I (snoort) help you? (ptui!)

What is a "PONZI SCHEME":
=========================

This line is right off the 1heleva.com website:
--- excerpt start ---
" There will *always* be more and more GREEDY people putting more money in
every month than will need to be paid out. In our first three months,
investments have tripled each month! "
--- excerpt ends ---

And this line should make you skin crawl when you think about the impact it
could have on all click exchange programs and the Internet in general, ( from
the same 1heleva.com webpage ):
--- excerpt start ---
" Simple unadulterated greed will keep the money coming in. And it will have
little to do with joining a "Traffic Exchange". "
--- excerpt ends ---

After reading these statements alone, the information on the following pages
should really open your eyes:

US Securities & Exchange Commission
- Ponzi Schemes -
http://www.sec.gov/answers/ponzi.htm

Don`t stop now, read on.






YOU could be held LIABLE:
=========================

A number of you already know this, but hey, grab the money well it lasts, right?

Think again, YOU could also be held liable, financially AND criminally.

Federal Trade Commission - Consumer Alert
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/alerts...ts/pyrdalrt.htm

*** from FTC Alert page - READ CAREFULLY ***

Your Responsibilities:

If you decide to become a distributor, you are legally responsible for the
claims you make about the company, its product and the business opportunities it
offers. That applies even if you`re repeating claims you read in a company
brochure or advertising flyer. The Federal Trade Commission advises you to
verify the research behind any claims about a product`s performance before
repeating those claims to a potential customer.

In addition, if you solicit new distributors, you are responsible for the claims
you make about a distributor`s earnings potential. Be sure to represent the
opportunity honestly and avoid making unrealistic promises. If those promises
fall through, remember that you could be held liable.

*** end of excerpt ***



Take your money and RUN:
========================

IF you were unaware of the fraudulent nature of this program, the smart thing to
do would request a full refund of your money and hope you can walk away without
any losses.

In the event you do not receive your money you may have recourse if you are a
US, Canadian or Australian citizen.

TWO sources you may reference to recover your so called "investment" from
1heleva.com and it`s owners are:

National Association of Attorney Generals:
http://www.naag.org/
[ 1heleva.com & it`s owners are residing in Richmond Virginia ]


Multinational task force of US, Canadian & Australian law enforcement agencies:
http://www.consumer.gov/sentinel/

---- excerpt from their site ----
Get the facts on consumer frauds from Internet cons, prize promotions,
work-at-home schemes, and telemarketing scams to identity theft.

Report your fraud complaints so they can be shared with law enforcement
officials across the U.S. and around the world.
--- end of excerpt ---



DO you own DUE DILIGENCE:
=========================

I understand that it can be tough times for a lot of people. The desire to make
a lot of money fast and easy has a powerful attraction. The financial and
criminal risks you face here could totally ruin you life as you know it.

BEFORE jumping on some "Be a MILLIONAIRE OVER NIGHT" scheme, do your DUE
DILIGENCE!

There are many opportunities to earn a comfortable living from the Internet.
You will need to LEARN to EARN, it doesn`t happen just because you have access
to an Internet connection. And it practically ALWAYS requires you to WORK AT
IT, build relationships, develop creditability and trust from the Internet
community.

Getting involved with a "PONZI SCHEME" or any type of illegal program on the Net
could easily destroy creditability you may have taken years to build.

--------

You are quoting the webmaster of viral visitors DOUG WILLIAMS who is spamming the heck out of his members with this particular e-mail.

Seems another webmaster who can't stand the competition.

Yes it's true, there are greedy people out there, who will continue re-investing to get a bigger ROI the following month.

But the terms are very clear.

I see no difference and no more risk here than investing in the stock market.
Matter of fact, this seems more realistic.

1heluva is the best traffic exchange i've ever used.
For $5 investment you earn 10% a month or 120% a year, if you surf 6000 pages a month.
You also can promote up to 5 urls for your $5 investment.

Nobody is forcing anyone to invest any more than the minimum $5 for this service.

People have free wills, and those that can afford the risk will risk it for a 600% return in 12 months.

Common sense tells you that in order for you to earn 600%, someone has to be loossing money.

It's the small investors with $5 invested, who don't surf their 6000 pages a month that will end up the loosers and there's a lot of small investors.

The large investors, who stack accounts will make their money, but they probably will loose a bit on their last account, but their ROI on all other accounts will more than make up for it.

I see this as just another webmaster trying to put down the competition.

We've all seen this over the years many many times.

Just this morning $29,000 was invested.
As long as 1heluva brings in $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 a day, it will survive.

Yes, it's similar to a pyramid scheme (never heard of a ponzi scheme) it's similar in the sense that some people are going to loose money. Not because of the structure of the program, but because they don't participate by doing their surfing, and a lot of accounts will be lost because they go inactive.

It takes surfing 1 page a month to keep an account active,

If people get deleted for inactivity and loose their money, who's fault is it?
Nobody's but their own fault, but sure, they'll come here and yell scam!

Obviously there are going to be loosers, that goes without saying and i believe Fred's putting all that up front right on the site in plain view only shows he's being honest and not trying to swindle anyone.

Anyone who invests big money, without a downline is a fool, unless they are surfing their 6000 pages and getting 120% a year back

20% a year interest is still better than what yu'd get in the bank or even an IRA today. So i see nothing wrong here other than one more green eyed monster's ranting and raving trying to destroy a program that can make all of us a nice inclome should we CHOOSE to participate.

JAy, i'm surprised at you for posting this here.
I think you should have more common sense than to jump on this bandwagon


You can promote

I swear all this happend. And i was told to go with the flow..

While i never got up on the desks and danced etc, it was very upsetting in the beginnning......

Eventually i got used to it, but it was unbelievable.

We were allowed to bring radio's in, we were supposed to wear headphones.

A lot of them didn't use the headphones.

Try doing data transcription while the gal behind you has a steven king book tape on, and the one on the right of you is playing hard rock, the one on the left, heavy metal, and you're trying to listen to Country!@

Talk about coming home with a headache every day...

I fixed them all.

I brought in what i call my punishment tape. I love this stuff, but these kids hated it.


Tex RItter's Blood on the saddle tape.

Those of you that are familiar with this will appreciate it.

They begged me to turn it off...

So i told them, lower yours, i'll lower mine etc..

Didn't take long at all for everyone to start wearing headphones...

If they acted up and played theirs loudly, i just turned on good ole Tex RItter.

3 cords was enough for them, the room got real quiet , real fast.

Go Carole Go

Carole be Goooooood !

ROFLOL!! What a hOOt ! LOL!

If I ever need tOO , I'm going to hafta remember this little trick Carol . Maybe I could do ...Charlton Heston reads the Bible audio bOOks or Joyce Meyer Life in the Word LOL!

I got it.

William Shatner sings "MR TAMBOURINE MAAAAN!!"

of MAN


cleaning the beer off my monitor on that one

Thanks !!!

man it came out my nose tooo ROTFLMAO