http://bdksplace.com/pages/terms.php

NOTE ON SEARCHES:

Please be advised that BDK's Place can tell if you are clicking through to do a search or not. Stipulations here at BDK's Place are that you get paid if you do a valid search. Your account will be deducted if you are found to not be doing valid searches, as follows:


1. First offense deduction amount will be the value of the click.
2. Second offense deduction amount will be twice the value of the click.
3. Fourth offense will be ACCOUNT DELETION.


You will be notified of each offense via eMail to your eMail account you have listed in your peronal information. If you encounter an error while trying to search, please send an eMail to Support@bdksplace.com Only notifications from members PRIOR to discovery of not doing a valid search will be given consideration as to not being an offense. Searches are always optional. If you click on them, please make sure you do a valid search.


Im only posting this to warn search advertisers to stay away since they can also get in trouble for their search link being placed in a program that blantantly forces searches

Hmm...I think she left off the third offense...

I thought WM's couldn't tell WHO exactly isn't doing valid searches....


Oops, I left out a few words...

How obnoxious. I hope you forwarded that on to their search engine.

I've seen a few places threaten this type of thing. Including some sites calling you a CHEATER if you don't do valid searches. I won't state the program names becuase I don't want to risk deletion from a PO'd PO.... wow does that sound strange...

Yes, I realize I am a PO as well. I don't like the sites that do this nor do I approve of such actions. I am all about the members keeping their accounts. I actually had to delete a section of a member's contest redemption because he/she was asking for a specific word to be searched for.

Granted, my emails are only queued and aren't being sent in my pre-launch stage, but still members and POs should know better than to try to violate a search engine's terms...


Edited to add:

And just because someone searches and it comes up invalid (over allowed # of clicks, ect) is that also cause for deletion? I don't think so and think most of this is nothing but hot air and no member should advertise search engines on places that do this.

I am in no way saying anything against any specific PO, I am just saying that in general attempting to violate a search engine's terms will hurt everyone. The advertisers, members, programs, and yes, THE SEARCH ENGINES... forced clicks can end up costing them money... it's a lose-lose situation... unless the POs are uncaring and just want some cash...

WM will be deleted from almost every searchengine he/she tries to advertise if someone reports this site.

Then there was this one that wasn't from the WM, but did allow a member of his site to send this on the 8th:

IF YOU ARE NOT FROM ONE OF THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES AND FOUND TO BE CLICKING SEARCH LINKS, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ACCOUNT DELETED IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT QUESTION!!: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom and United States.

http://www.keysearcher.com/xray.php?username=xxxxxx

And thanks to Sarah who is also a member of of the above site for sending out the email condemning this from her site. Confused yet?

No matter what a WM tells its members it is Technologically impossible to tell who searches and who doesnt, I would report every search link this WM send to the Engine Master just because sending an email like that is in so many ways inappropriate.

If there was a way to see if people really search don't you think we'd all know about it by now?

I am in one that says that if you do not search you will not get paid for the link. I've been wondering for a while now if they could tell who searches and who doesn't.

Well, THIS is no huge surprise, considering it's something Denise has her fingers in, and we all know what a FINE, trustworthy, upstanding person she is.

Below is an e-mail I sent them:

Busted!!! LOL

And THAT was the best excuse she could come up with?

Shelli has NEVER been like that.

I highly doubt that what she said was an excuse. She has always been upfront and honest about things.

Tiffany

I just want you all to know that I emailed Shelli the other day about some things and she does realize that things were done that she was unaware of. She did tell me that she will no longer be having anyone but her own family help her with the sites,and hopefully she will tell everyone that soon enough.

Well, I guess you guys finally get some sort of response or reply from me!
No I will not constantly write nor read in here. I do not have the time, and have been very ill. I also think that quite a few tend to get hurt or damaged in this forum.
About the post on my site forcing you to search:

I will not even try to sit here and write that it did not happen.
But what I will say, is that I PERSONALLY, did not, or would not pull that!

I clearly know and understand the TOS of most if not all search engines.
Let's face it, People all over the Net have been searching for my sons medical problems for awhile now, and have done it wonderfully!
Most of the search engines that I use know why people are searching for me and have been written as of today.

Whoever is posting that I used an excuse as being sick and hospitalized doesnt seem to have half a brain in thier head. My son is having his surgery in August and we have gotten this close to it all being over. Would you jeapordize all that?
Would you actually think I'm senseless enough to let someone take that privilage away from us?

I was also told that this was done while I was away, and that it was not my search links that I use for payouts, and/or my sons needs. I was told that it was someone else's referral url!

Nobody has ever been Begged, or Forced in ANY WAY by myself to search, and never will be! As a matter of fact, they were always made very aware of what they were searching for, either my son, or random payouts, and then the choice was thiers.

I don't know who started this post. I do appreciate the fact that someone personally contacted me this AM to inform me that this had been added to my TOS and sent out in an email while I was away so that I could have them changed back this evening and contact the search engines and give up the referral url that members were forced to search on.

I have learned a tough lesson though throughout this entire ordeal with my son and trying to get some help instead of closing my sites;

TRUST NOBODY ANYMORE!

PS.
To everyone who bashed me and my sites so bad for using you guys most favorite hated person, I didn't hear anything from any one of you all to assist me!
And if what you are waiting to hear is, "Did something happen"?
Well your answer is YES, and I learned the hard way. And I'm even being threatened and everything else by that person now. But I am a survivor, and I am still here, and AINT GOING ANYWHERE until the last member has left me!

So, you can either try CK-mails.com and BDKsPlace.com and see how I run things or come just to check what I'm doing or not. Totally up to you. I'm just fine the way I am and how I am with the handful of members on my site.

Shelli
The Sole Owner & Webmistress of
CK-mails
BDK's Place

HI EVERYONE

OK, IN DEFENSE OF SHELLI--Everything that she stated up above is TRUE..Now she left the site in the hands of someone she thought she could honestly trust and she even met this person at one point..This is why this is coming down so hard on Shelli...Its one thing to help someone out, but its another to start changing things on her website without her permission and this person did alot of that and then some.....The reason I did not catch on to it sooner was that I don't go into the forum for starters for the most part as normally it involves some bashing of some sort and Im not really into that..But what this individual did to her was the LOWEST OF LOWS and I know she is going to be reading this and the reason I became friendly with her was because Shelli and I became very good friends since she started CK and then the new site..I would have never believed that this individual would have pulled such a stunt considering Shellis high risk pregnacy and what she is dealing with in regards to christophers upcoming lung surgery....If that is not the lowest of lows, I don't know what is and if she is reading this? I hope you realize that you are the scum of the earth with your THREATS...BRING IT ON DENISE and for everyone else???? Shelli is the most sweetest person and would never pull anything like this..It is just so unfortunate that Denise pulled this hi on her and now she has to deal with this on top of everything else....So please, stay on with BDKsPlace and CK-Mails--Shelli has full control of the sites now and her hubby is doing all the finances for both sites from now on..and for anyone that is not a member? PLEASE JOIN UP--Denise ripped Shelli off so much that we desperately need money back into the sites and these sites were originally set up to help with the extra expenses that are not covered by medical insurance for Christopher......Im truely sorry that if any of you lost your memberships because of the hi she pulled..please resign up and lets help Shelli to get these sites back on track and remember that DENISE is LONG GONE and we will make these the fun sites that we use to remember when Shelli had full control which she does now once again...Thank you for all of you who have stood by her and please help support the sites now and as I said, if I had any inkling that alot of this was going on, I would have reported it to Shelli myself way sooner, but I was just so busy at other PTR sites trying to bring in new members because everytime Denise did inactives, we would take a considerable loss and I was thinking more of Shelli and Christopher to gain more members to get the sites back on track for her--so please forgive me on that part..from now on, I guess I have to start forcing myself to go into the forums to see whats going on a bit more..and with that said-I wish all of you a good week....

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Thanks To Everyone Reading this and Please, we all now officially know who to stay away from and please, if everyone could kind of spread the word around that all of this was NONE OF SHELLI's DOING, but DENISE and that Shelli and her son needs all the help they can get and her sons illness and lung transplant IS THE REAL THING, it is NOT MADE UP AT ALL...
How would you like to be in Shelli's shoes? Pregnet??? high risk besides? Son who she has to get ready for the lung transplant and the long trip from DC to Calf for this operation, and then your informed that the sites that you own that you think are being run in a responsible manner and doing good, you find out that your about to loose your sites??? all thanks to DENISE...
So if you can all find it in your heart to understand that people make mistakes in judgements and can forgive, then please resign up at both Ck-Mails and BDKsPlace and lets all work together as a team once again like we all use to be on CK and help Shelli as she needs our help more then ever now because of all this..
and does anyone have Charitys personal email addy? from Cooking4Cash? I know her site is down..Thanks

I quit BDK when I was told I had to email them every time I could not complete a search and was to include reason.

I just don't have the time, nor do I feel I should have to.

Weren't we warned about BDK a while back??
Can't remeber the details.

I was in another site that said you MUST search and I just kept clicking and not searching to see what would happen. They never paid when I requested but I think I'm still a member. So who is the cheater?


edited to say, just checked, I'm still there but no payment almost 4 month later.

>>If she wants to save any credibility in the PTR world she needs to
unload that excess baggage called Denise, once and for all.<<

Just to let everyone know that Denise is no longer associated with
Ck-Mails and BDK.

Shelli had told me that the TOS Agreement had been changed
regarding the Searches and it was not done by her!

If you are a member of CK or BDK and a Search Email is sent out,
you see this at the beginning of each email.

"This is a CK-mails Search Email

They are paid searches.
You are in no way obligated to search.
If you choose not to search, simply delete this email"

I usually don't get myself involved in another's business, but...
I know Shelli and the problems that have occured when allowing
"INSERT NAME HERE" to help run
both sites while she has been in and out of the hospital due
to complications with her pregnancy.

We are advertisers with Both of Shellies Sites and will continue to
do business with Shelli.

I have found in this woman, Pure Strength, who has faced
head-to-head life battles straight on and not back down or to
just throw the towel into the ring and say, I give up.

This woman has put so much of her time and care into her sites.

Shelli feels that her members will not trust her because of what
has transpired during her time of being away.

This woman does not need the bashing from "INSERT NAME HERE" and for
everyone here that knows Shelli,
Remember to Keep Her and Her Family In Your Prayers.

Thats all I have to say.........
(stepping off her pedestal)

Pamela
Within Temptations Fine Jewelry Wholesalers