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billiev

Nov 20 2002, 07:05 PM

I logged into my Solarcash account the other day, and guess what?? My downline was gone. I had well over 100, closer to 130 in my downline. I joined through the downline builder. Contacted the webmaster. They just converted scripts from cac to cc, so I thought that may be the problem. This is his reply:
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You must be thinking of another program, I checked the back up database,
there is no record of any downline. Sorry.
----- Original Message -----
From: <billiev@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <support@solarcash.com>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:23 PM

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> name: billie vasquez
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> username: billiev@xxxxxxxx.net
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> subject_type: Earnings/Points Question
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> bquestion_type: downline??????
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> message_type: My entire downline is gone! I had well over 100 in my
downline. Now I have nobody. Could you please check this for me. Thanks.
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GGGRRRRRR, this Always happens in programs that I have a downline in. I think I'm just gonna forget about it and unsub.

Anyway, if you're in this one, check your account! I know that one person in my downline had 90 referrals, so go check!!!!

Brianlfc

Nov 20 2002, 08:24 PM

Billie, I've just checked mine...

Downline Count
#1 3
#2 1
#3 0
#4 0
#5 0
#6 0
Total: 4

I too joined via the downline builder, I couldn't tell you how many referrals I had, but I must have had all 10 levels filled, thats unless someone skipped me and I didn't notice, but I'm pretty sure I had all levels filled!

shadowman

Nov 20 2002, 08:36 PM

QUOTE (billiev @ Nov 21 2002, 09:05 AM)

I logged into my Solarcash account the other day, and guess what?? My downline was gone. I had well over 100, closer to 130 in my downline. I joined through the downline builder. Contacted the webmaster. They just converted scripts from cac to cc, so I thought that may be the problem. This is his reply:
**********
You must be thinking of another program, I checked the back up database,
there is no record of any downline. Sorry.
----- Original Message -----
From: <billiev@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <support@solarcash.com>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:23 PM

>
> name: billie vasquez
>
> username: billiev@xxxxxxxx.net
>
> subject_type: Earnings/Points Question
>
> bquestion_type: downline??????
>
> message_type: My entire downline is gone! I had well over 100 in my
downline. Now I have nobody. Could you please check this for me. Thanks.
>
>
>
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GGGRRRRRR, this Always happens in programs that I have a downline in. I think I'm just gonna forget about it and unsub.

Anyway, if you're in this one, check your account! I know that one person in my downline had 90 referrals, so go check!!!!

So much of this type of explinations going on. we converted, then sorry no records.

To the wemaster of this program. Your either a blasted fool or a lier.

You can't tell me that when you convert over you don't make a back up file of your members. If you didn't then your a fool with no common sense who shouldn't be in the business.

If you did make a back up then your sites a out right scam. After reading these posts.

shadowman

Nov 20 2002, 08:39 PM

Their ought to be away people in a downline can contact each other. So everyone can hear what happen and leave the scam program in a group.

moonieb

Nov 20 2002, 09:03 PM

GRRRRRRRRRR...I just checked and I have NO Downline.......I advertised this one so Iknow I had about 10 in my first level and others in the other tiers as I too joined thru the downline builder......I am going to e-mail this person, as soon as I have checked in the builder who I joined under and who joined under me.....so that I can put proof to him/her that I have a downline...but he was wiped them....The bloody cheat....If he/she does nothing about this......There is going to be Trouble with a capyial T.

moonieb

Nov 20 2002, 09:14 PM

I have just shot of a e-mail to the webowner....I have stated what I have lost, what he said to billie....calling her a liar, which I pointed out she was not.....and that I had proof my downline was still joined and active....and that if he/she did not respond within 24 hours.....this would go further!

This really pips me off

billiev

Nov 20 2002, 09:35 PM

QUOTE (moonieb @ Nov 20 2002, 09:14 PM)

I have just shot of a e-mail to the webowner....I have stated what I have lost, what he said to billie....calling her a liar, which I pointed out she was not.....and that I had proof my downline was still joined and active....and that if he/she did not respond within 24 hours.....this would go further!

This really pips me off

hehe, I just did the same thing. I was very nice, though, and presented what "evidence" I have accumulated so far. I pm'd the ones in my downline from the downline builder. hehe..........what can I say--I'm in a scrappin' mood tonight

Brianlfc

Nov 20 2002, 09:41 PM

Yep, its looking like he's trying to rip us off

I seem to remember getting an email that he sent to all users, complaining he may have to shut the site down because no-one was searching...

Seems he's found another way to counter-act this.

I'm gonna go to the downline thread, see who signed under me and whether they're still members...

Off to gather my evidence for an argument

solarcash

Nov 20 2002, 09:52 PM

In the first place, I did not call anyone a liar, what I said was the back-up database could not back up the claim. Little do most realize that the CAC programs are still on the site after conversion, all I need to do is check using the same program. No downline.

At the time of the conversion, inactive members were deleted, this program had alot of inactive members. The downline group apparently did join en masse, but then moved on, I was averaging less than 200 click-thru's with 1300 members. This was the reason for getting the new scripts in the first place.

I have checked the member section, there are still members with over 100 people in their downlines.

As I am typing this response, I just received an email from billiev, with usernames that could not possibly been on SolarCash because they are not email addresses, prior to the conversion ALL usernames on SolarCash were the email addresses of the members, anyone who has joined a CAC cgi GPTR knows that.

I do not know WHICH program you are thinking about, there were not many members in SolarCash to start with, nothing to support these claims.

Bill
Webmaster of SolarCash

moonieb

Nov 20 2002, 09:55 PM

This is now a BIG plug for solarcash......A great webmaster......great customer service

ppprk

Nov 20 2002, 10:02 PM

I hope not.I began to like & promote the program.
My referrals are fine...

solarcash

Nov 20 2002, 10:07 PM

Sorry you feel that way, SolarCash is now a program that can work, but in order for your claims to be true, 70% of all active members would have had to be in this particular downline, I just cannot see it and the database does not support it.

I will certainly be happy to place anyone under you who backs you up with an actual username that exists in the system, they are all there, minus inactives.

Bill
SolarCash

billiev

Nov 20 2002, 10:10 PM

solarcash

Nov 20 2002, 10:10 PM

Indeed, ppprk has 430 in his downline, now if I was going to 'rip someone off' as is being claimed here, certainly he would have been on the list.

billiev

Nov 20 2002, 10:12 PM

well, I for one never said you were trying to rip anyone off. I just want an explaination, as I don't have this confused with another program. I may be old, but I'm not stupid or senile.

Brianlfc

Nov 20 2002, 10:14 PM

QUOTE (billiev @ Nov 21 2002, 04:10 AM)

http://www.solarcash.com/cgi-bin/signup.cg...lueyonder.co.uk

hhhhhmmmmmmmm...........I guess we're all imagining this

Billie, I know for a fact that user is still active, because it good old ME!!!

SolarCash, I'm not totally sure, but I could have sworn I had ALL 10 levels filled, but now I look, I have 3 on my first level and 1 on the second level...

The rest have disappeared

billiev

Nov 20 2002, 10:16 PM

If data got lost in the transfer, fine. That happens. If they all unsubbed, I could live with that--no big deal. However, I do get a tad miffed when people think I don't know what I am talking about.

solarcash

Nov 20 2002, 10:17 PM

316what316@prodigy.net has a downline of 138, his sponsor was deleted for inactivitiy, there is no rollup in the CAC scripts, and I don't believe in any of the GPTR scripts, as long as he doesn't object, I can roll him up to you, this was not caused by the conversion, if any of your frontline becomes inactive, you lose them and all under them.

This is one of the main reasons that the lower levels have such a low percentage.

Sabrina

Nov 20 2002, 10:21 PM

I made many downlines and 10 tier filled too.

Now only 18 remain at 3 tier .

billiev

Nov 20 2002, 10:23 PM

QUOTE (solarcash @ Nov 20 2002, 10:17 PM)

316what316@prodigy.net has a downline of 138, his sponsor was deleted for inactivitiy, there is no rollup in the CAC scripts, and I don't believe in any of the GPTR scripts, as long as he doesn't object, I can roll him up to you, this was not caused by the conversion, if any of your frontline becomes inactive, you lose them and all under them.

This is one of the main reasons that the lower levels have such a low percentage.

ahhhhh......okay........explains a lot. That's what I was wondering all along. I completely forgot about the fact that w/cac, you lose one, you lose 'em all

solarcash

Nov 20 2002, 10:24 PM

Actually let me correct myself, that COULD have been caused by the conversion since there was no active sponsor for the script to find. So as I said, as long as he doesn't object I can roll him back up which would give you a downline of 139.

austin31612

Nov 20 2002, 10:25 PM

QUOTE (solarcash @ Nov 20 2002, 11:17 PM)

316what316@prodigy.net has a downline of 138, his sponsor was deleted for inactivitiy, there is no rollup in the CAC scripts, and I don't believe in any of the GPTR scripts, as long as he doesn't object, I can roll him up to you, this was not caused by the conversion, if any of your frontline becomes inactive, you lose them and all under them.

This is one of the main reasons that the lower levels have such a low percentage.

Well thats me, you can put me in billiev's downline.

Poncer

Nov 20 2002, 10:27 PM

I am a member, but I never got a downline, so I can't complain one way or the other. I don't know that this program will rip me off unless he deleted my account?

billiev

Nov 20 2002, 10:28 PM

gee...now I feel kinda bad, causing all this extra work for you

Brianlfc

Nov 20 2002, 10:28 PM

billiev

Nov 20 2002, 10:30 PM

QUOTE (Poncer @ Nov 20 2002, 10:27 PM)

I am a member, but I never got a downline, so I can't complain one way or the other. I don't know that this program will rip me off unless he deleted my account?

Poncer, you need to use the downline builder

I am pretty crummy at getting refs on my own, so I join here.

austin31612

Nov 20 2002, 10:32 PM

QUOTE (billiev @ Nov 20 2002, 11:28 PM)

gee...now I feel kinda bad, causing all this extra work for you

it says your my referer already, that was quick. Am i in your downline now?

solarcash

Nov 20 2002, 10:36 PM

Okay the problem just got worse when I tried to make that move, 316 disappeared from the database even though his file is still there, so I am going to have to check with CC on this one before I do any more moves.

austin31612

Nov 20 2002, 10:40 PM

QUOTE (solarcash @ Nov 20 2002, 11:36 PM)

Okay the problem just got worse when I tried to make that move, 316 disappeared from the database even though his file is still there, so I am going to have to check with CC on this one before I do any more moves.

I changed my email address could that be why?

billiev

Nov 20 2002, 10:44 PM

Ohhhhh, I'm so sorry I stirred this up

Now I feel really bad. I just gotta say "hats off" to you, Bill. You are an example of how a program owner should be. You have been nothing but polite through this all, even though I know you are probably tearing your hair out right now. I mean that in all sincerity.

shadowman

Nov 21 2002, 12:35 AM

I'll be darn. My apologies. Nice to see your honest and trying to get things fixed.

I seen so many of these lost downlines lately that I gotten snarling angry concerning this.

billiev

Nov 21 2002, 01:03 AM

QUOTE (shadowman @ Nov 21 2002, 12:35 AM)

I'll be darn. My apologies. Nice to see your honest and trying to get things fixed.

I seen so many of these lost downlines lately that I gotten snarling angry concerning this.

Me, too. I think that's why I was so riled up with the posts of the past few days here. It is refreshing to see this

No fur flying, no bashing........well, very little. It always pays to be polite

shadowman

Nov 21 2002, 02:14 AM

When I read that e-mail you showed that you got; it was instant disgust anger.
WM that are not scaming some should be more careful what they send to their members in personal communications. Because that one really look bad.

solarcash

Nov 21 2002, 05:17 AM

Good News! The problem fixed itself! These CC scripts take a little patience, they do not do things on the spot, but it has moved the downline over.

As to what Shadowman was saying, sometimes when answering emails from members you do get a little short. I get so many....'what's my password'...'why can't I login'...all questions they could answer themselves just by trying. So I apologize if I seemed to curt with everyone, really believed there was no problem here.

Thanks, and I like this forum, I will have to get a folder for SolarCash so we can keep communication open like this. Helps nip complaints in the bud that way.

Bill
SolarCash

moonieb

Nov 21 2002, 07:21 AM

Hmmmm.....Well hats off to you WM of SolarCash......I will edit my post to show you are not a liar and a cheat........

My referals on the other hand are not going to be able to be put back.....I did get 6 levels filled in the downline builder...and could vouch for those....but I advertised solarcash, so have no idea who they are....I can not believe with having at least 10 on my first tier that they were all inactive...Why do people join a program and then not do the clicking???

I will check with my direct referal here...in the downline builder, and see if they got deleted or unsubbed.

Sorry about my harsh words...but It sounded as if you were going to brush us off.....Not so much for me....Because my downline was not that big....but poor billie......

mightym

Jun 10 2003, 07:56 PM

Hey maybe someone could help me,

I joined solar about a month ago, Ive made .06 cents. I havent seen a link to click in weeks...

Is it solar or is it me lol

Thanks people

lene

Jun 10 2003, 08:02 PM

it's solar...he's selling the site as well so dunno what's gonna happen

summersun

Sep 13 2003, 06:13 PM

hmm, this is weird??

http://www.solarcash.com

when you click you'll get:

The registration for SOLARCASH.COM has expired.

If you are the owner of this domain, you can renew it by clicking the button below.

If this domain was recently renewed, it will be reactivated in a few hours.

Don't like this.

peter