meomeo
May 17 2004, 07:54 PM
I paid 300$ for upgrade to diamond membership at Dreamstarmail. But when i sent my ads, i waited 5 day for my ads running but nothing happend

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I tried to contact with them but i got a error email is : Don't have this email address.

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I sent a complaint mail to the person take my upgrade money (300$) advertising@DreamStarMail.com but they don't reply.
Anybody tell me what happend with them. They disappeard or not?
How can i do now?
ptrperson
May 17 2004, 08:04 PM
We've long established it's a scam. Take legal action and sue the PO to ****. Plus, you'll get your $300, for a minor lawyer fee. Any old lawyer'll do, it's too easy of a case.
meomeo
May 17 2004, 08:25 PM
It's the same with Superstarmail, isn't it?
It's too bad new for me. I'm lost all my money
Anybody help me about this huh huh huh.
mccallul
May 17 2004, 08:26 PM
If you paid via Paypay, do a charge back, so you can get your money back.
Zombie Master
May 17 2004, 10:19 PM
All I can say is good luck getting your money out of this scam site.
There is one on this forum who knows the owner of the site, try asking him since he has helped the sites in the past and is even part of the same group that run them.
fss3689 is his username. He claims to own Peststarmail, yet the domain reg on it points to hte owner of the other *starmail sites. Though according to him he had the guy buy the domain for him, then who not just transfer ownership, it can be done.
the lil crusader
May 18 2004, 01:24 AM
I'm just shaking my head in total disbelief over this......Why in God's name would you hand over $300 to a site that was exposed as a con job from the day it opened its doors??????
If you wanted to just throw your money away like that, you could have thrown it in my direction!
I just hope you paid through Paypal and can do a chargeback.
If all else fails, maybe you can contact the owner via the contact link at his newest baby - Light Star Mails......It's too new for him to have disconnected the contact link there yet.
Zombie Master
May 18 2004, 01:37 AM
| QUOTE (the lil crusader @ May 18 2004, 04:54 PM) |
I'm just shaking my head in total disbelief over this......Why in God's name would you hand over $300 to a site that was exposed as a con job from the day it opened its doors?????? |
lil crusader, it's called "This site pays so it isnt a scam" syndrome.
| QUOTE |
| If all else fails, maybe you can contact the owner via the contact link at his newest baby - Light Star Mails......It's too new for him to have disconnected the contact link there yet. |
Dont be too certain, if they disabled it on one site, they did it on all...
Mystical2000
May 18 2004, 01:41 AM
No doubt a scam....Those ad prices and the NPA new HOT HOT HOT multi sites that have opened by the same person/s.
People need to get a clue. Im really sorry you lost your $300.00 but seriously....you need to know what your doing before you pay for an upgrade of that amount. NO SITE is worth an upgrade with that price IMO. Too many of them close up or hand off.... I dont care how much advertising you get or how low your payout is.......You have to make that up and that dont happen now adays.
Please if you used paypal...contact them and do a chargeback. Before its TOO LATE.
doublet
May 18 2004, 03:26 AM
| QUOTE (meomeo @ May 17 2004, 08:54 PM) |
I paid 300$ for upgrade to diamond membership at Dreamstarmail. But when i sent my ads, i waited 5 day for my ads running but nothing happend . I tried to contact with them but i got a error email is : Don't have this email address. . I sent a complaint mail to the person take my upgrade money (300$) advertising@DreamStarMail.com but they don't reply. Anybody tell me what happend with them. They disappeard or not? How can i do now? |
What you can do now.. is not to make the same mistake again. Do not join LIGHTSTARMAIL!
Lightstarmail is owned by the same WM as DREAMSTARMAIL and SUPERSTARMAIL!
There are mant threads in the GPF on this WM and PTR sites that are run by HOT POTATOE WMs. The link below is just one of them..
http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=176733
meomeo
May 18 2004, 03:57 AM
Thanks everyone. I tried to contact with them through Paypal and they reply to me. Hope...
Thanks all again
LuGeer_du
May 18 2004, 04:13 AM
OH meomeo
Nick1043
May 18 2004, 05:14 AM
Why would anyone give $300 for an upgraded membership?
Dinamitas
May 18 2004, 05:20 AM
You paid 300$ for scam GPTR? Strange...
meomeo
May 19 2004, 10:30 PM
| QUOTE (Dinamitas @ May 18 2004, 06:20 AM) |
You paid 300$ for scam GPTR? Strange... |
heronekki
May 19 2004, 11:45 PM
Isn't LightStarMail is also the admin of DreamStarMail? Should i quit LightStarMail and DreamStarMail?
meomeo
May 20 2004, 04:37 AM
| QUOTE (heronekki @ May 20 2004, 12:45 AM) |
| Isn't LightStarMail is also the admin of DreamStarMail? Should i quit LightStarMail and DreamStarMail? |
My ad is running but i think wrong with them

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lyra
May 20 2004, 07:29 AM
all scam.
The amount of their "has been paid" is just edit by the webmaster
Bippy
May 20 2004, 07:36 AM
| QUOTE (heronekki @ May 20 2004, 01:45 AM) |
| Isn't LightStarMail is also the admin of DreamStarMail? Should i quit LightStarMail and DreamStarMail? |
Yep they are one in the same...its up to you whether to quit or not. I did with earnings in my account because I new my add wasn't going out like others. So I just gave up on a ptr that wasn't worth it in my eyes. I would've made it to payout, but what good is that If I will never get paid. I've learned my lesson.
makila
May 20 2004, 08:21 AM
| QUOTE (lyra @ May 20 2004, 09:29 PM) |
all scam.
The amount of their "has been paid" is just edit by the webmaster |
This site probably uses a script that when someone requests a payout the amount is auto-added to the amount the site paid to its members.
The amount of their "has been paid" is probably the total amount of all payout requests.
uzzy
May 20 2004, 08:24 AM
| QUOTE (lyra @ May 20 2004, 08:29 AM) |
all scam.
The amount of their "has been paid" is just edit by the webmaster |
I agree with you
IMO it's impossible to pay so much.
He didn't earn such amount of $$$.
koon3564
May 20 2004, 08:56 AM
maybe i can give u some help
try this contact webmaster@wenfu.net
Webmaster name : Yu Suyi
It might be some problem there's
so , i think is better dont rude if u want to contact her
doublet
May 20 2004, 09:06 AM
| QUOTE (koon3564 @ May 20 2004, 09:56 AM) |
maybe i can give u some help try this contact webmaster@wenfu.net Webmaster name : Yu Suyi It might be some problem there's so , i think is better dont rude if u want to contact her |
Ah.. Koon..
How successful were you in contacting the Police department in Tallinn Estonia?
Did you even try or did you come to realize that your complain was not of sufficient importance to any police department?
the lil crusader
May 20 2004, 09:07 AM
| QUOTE (heronekki @ May 20 2004, 12:45 AM) |
| Isn't LightStarMail is also the admin of DreamStarMail? Should i quit LightStarMail and DreamStarMail? |
Yes it is and yes you should.....immediately!!!!!!!!!!
Whatever you do - DO NOT invest any real money in either of these sites (or any of their many clones)!
the lil crusader
May 20 2004, 09:10 AM
| QUOTE (uzzy @ May 20 2004, 09:24 AM) |
| QUOTE (lyra @ May 20 2004, 08:29 AM) | all scam.
The amount of their "has been paid" is just edit by the webmaster |
I agree with you IMO it's impossible to pay so much. He didn't earn such amount of $$$.
|
That figure represents requests and redemptions for ads too, not true payouts. With so many people finally wising up and trying to redeem their earnings for ads to at least get something out of the program, that figure is going to sky-rocket.....IT'S MEANINGLESS.
davidbugs
May 20 2004, 09:15 AM
My advice contact Paypal. Report it Internet Fraud.
He would not be able to run Gptr Business!!!
koon3564
May 20 2004, 09:26 AM
| QUOTE (doublet @ May 20 2004, 10:06 AM) |
| QUOTE (koon3564 @ May 20 2004, 09:56 AM) | maybe i can give u some help? try this contact webmaster@wenfu.net Webmaster name : Yu Suyi It might be some problem there's so , i think is better dont rude if u want to contact her |
Ah.. Koon.. How successful were you in contacting the Police department in Tallinn Estonia? Did you even try or did you come to realize that your complain was not of sufficient importance to any police department? |
thank you for paying attention for me
now is not a correct time because i am now in studying
I dont want involed any case with police yet
there is too much thing that hapen at this last 2 weaks
All my ptr account are hacked and i lose many earning because of redem for ads while i dont request it
what i can said is i'm unlucky
but i dont think that cheater will be lucky
because i think he dont got password for the sekurity password that i added when i transfer the money
Since i make reply here
So i want ask some question
Did the western union will paid me back if there's no receive ?
How to request it back
what i am sad just because they are charge too much when i transfer the money and it is impossible to re-fund
AND i found some interesting web
go and take a look
http://www.tallinn.ee/eng/linna_juhtimine/...3a7a55d0b9f56fdthank you
davidbugs
May 20 2004, 09:30 AM
| QUOTE |
How successful were you in contacting the Police department in Tallinn Estonia?
|
How do you know if this Guy live in Tallinn Estonia?? This guy could make up False Information. He probably live different country.
You better do some little more investigation if he really live in there at Talinn Estonia.
Bippy
May 20 2004, 10:09 AM
| QUOTE (davidbugs @ May 20 2004, 11:30 AM) |
| QUOTE | How successful were you in contacting the Police department in Tallinn Estonia?
|
How do you know if this Guy live in Tallinn Estonia?? This guy could make up False Information. He probably live different country.
You better do some little more investigation if he really live in there at Talinn Estonia.
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I think its the member that lives in estonia david not the WM. and he just proved above you that he lives in estonia
doublet
May 20 2004, 10:36 AM
| QUOTE (koon3564 @ May 20 2004, 10:26 AM) |
| QUOTE (doublet @ May 20 2004, 10:06 AM) | | QUOTE (koon3564 @ May 20 2004, 09:56 AM) | maybe i can give u some help? try this contact webmaster@wenfu.net Webmaster name : Yu Suyi It might be some problem there's so , i think is better dont rude if u want to contact her |
Ah.. Koon.. How successful were you in contacting the Police department in Tallinn Estonia? Did you even try or did you come to realize that your complain was not of sufficient importance to any police department? |
thank you for paying attention for me now is not a correct time because i am now in studying I dont want involed any case with police yet there is too much thing that hapen at this last 2 weaks All my ptr account are hacked and i lose many earning because of redem for ads while i dont request it what i can said is i'm unlucky but i dont think that cheater will be lucky because i think he dont got password for the sekurity password that i added when i transfer the money Since i make reply here So i want ask some question Did the western union will paid me back if there's no receive ? How to request it back what i am sad just because they are charge too much when i transfer the money and it is impossible to re-fund AND i found some interesting web go and take a look http://www.tallinn.ee/eng/linna_juhtimine/...3a7a55d0b9f56fdthank you |
I am glad that you are continuing on with expanding your outlook in life through continuing on with your formal education.
One word of caution. Don't get stuck with everything that you hear or are taught to learn from others who tell you that they know what they are talking about. In other words.. don't get entrapped in a school of thought. If you look up the definition of school in a dictionary.. it is has far more meaning to being one member of a school of fish.. than it does as regards to becoming a individual capable of logical independant thought. Remember that fish are caught in a net. That's why and where most PTR members are stuck.
Become capable of listening and reading, but remember that you can't trust 90% of what you read and 95% of what you hear.

Of course that all depends what you select to read and who you stop to listen to..
That's my advice..
Good luck!

About the link: I last visited that capital city back in 1979.. it was interesting to me because at that time it was still under the dominance of the USSR..>
<edited added About the link..>
atila
May 20 2004, 10:47 AM
Is SuperStarMail his site too or partner only?
doublet
May 20 2004, 10:51 AM
| QUOTE (atila @ May 20 2004, 11:47 AM) |
| Is SuperStarMail his site too or partner only? |
Superstarmail, dreamstarmail lightstarmail
These are all owned by the same WM.
If you are a member, unsubscribe. You won't get paid by this WM!
doublet
May 20 2004, 11:01 AM
| QUOTE (firehouse1996 @ May 20 2004, 11:09 AM) |
| QUOTE (davidbugs @ May 20 2004, 11:30 AM) | | QUOTE | How successful were you in contacting the Police department in Tallinn Estonia?
|
How do you know if this Guy live in Tallinn Estonia?? This guy could make up False Information. He probably live different country.
You better do some little more investigation if he really live in there at Talinn Estonia.
|
I think its the member that lives in estonia david not the WM. and he just proved above you that he lives in estonia |
Hmm..
If you are refering to me.. I reside in Canada, Ontario, Toronto. The person who scammed Koon of money in exchange for egold listed their address as Tallinn Estonia. That does not by any means indicate that the scammer is Estonian. Tallinn is populated by a large percentage of Russians, Bulgars, Ukrainians, Gypsies and what else settled in that occupied territory during the Russian occupation 1945-1991. Not all are theives as a just dropping a nameplace where one scammer may reside which that may imply to some who are not well informed. You'd have better luck in referring to a PTR operated as Hawaii to find that location and name connection is rather amusing to some. And.. When you utilize the word investigate, I don't really wish to critisize but what comes to my mind is the question.. I wonder in what depth..
I hope that helps you to clarify in some next post what some may consider to be not too clear from the limited content in what I posted. That post was a continuation of.. exchange of thought patterns in memory from past communications (between Koon and doublet). I also edited that post soon afterwards to add.. to state that I had visited Estonia in 1979.
(Of course I didn't mention Sweden or Germany or Finland and the United States also in that same time frame in 1979.. but that would have been just as immaterial as mentioning it now..)
This just goes to show you how ineffective communication can be within the group that attempts to convey thought patterns in the English language. The educated and the unschooled alike fall into the same mire of instant wrong opinionated assumptions of what they read. Even those who profess the loudest to be highly skilled or knowledgeable in English err. What makes me laugh is that they are so complacent that most rarely consult a reference commonly known as a English dictionary.
The more most of these self declared experts tell you of how much they know more than what you know just exposes how little they really know. It's foolhardy to rant too often. It's one of the oldest stories of all.. If you look long enough anyone will find a much more knowlegeable individual than who you think you are around the next corner.. Don't run too fast to that destination. Reserve is the key word to reflect on as to not falter.. too often.
I have not yet asked.. What geopolitical boundary does Koon reside in and if he/she replies.. what is his/her mother tongue.

<edited to clarify..>
mystic614
May 23 2004, 02:12 PM
I bought an email ad a few weeks ago and sent them the receipt several times What can I do about a $3.00 ad anything?
nafan
May 23 2004, 02:30 PM
| QUOTE (mystic614 @ May 24 2004, 04:12 AM) |
| I bought an email ad a few weeks ago and sent them the receipt several times What can I do about a $3.00 ad anything? |
if you paid with paypal, you can charge it back by making a complaint with paypal.
but if you paid with e-gold

!
6604
May 23 2004, 04:36 PM
Since it's obvious that the site is going down (or most likely already have!!) I chose to redeem my earnings. Later when I logged back in I noticed that my redemption was a solo email at SuperStarMail...

Hm... And how am I supposed to know if the ad is run when I'm not a member of that program???? I contacted them, but received notification that the mail address did not exist...
I guess the VM/PO has escaped the country, and is now zipping a nice Mary, quite satisfied with his STAR business, already planning his return under another name. Since he seems to be far out (stars...) I guess he'll start the "Planet PTR Group" with "Unbelievable Uranus Earnings", "Precious Pluto PTR", "Victory Venus Mails" etc....
arben
May 23 2004, 04:48 PM
| QUOTE (meomeo @ May 20 2004, 12:30 AM) |
| QUOTE (Dinamitas @ May 18 2004, 06:20 AM) | You paid 300$ for scam GPTR? Strange... |
|
Hmmmmm you still don't think they are a scam huh?
Well I just hope I don't see another thread started by you in complaints for DreamStarMails
doublet
May 23 2004, 07:19 PM
| QUOTE (6604 @ May 23 2004, 05:36 PM) |
Since it's obvious that the site is going down (or most likely already have!!) I chose to redeem my earnings. Later when I logged back in I noticed that my redemption was a solo email at SuperStarMail...? Hm... And how am I supposed to know if the ad is run when I'm not a member of that program???? I contacted them, but received notification that the mail address did not exist...?
I guess the VM/PO has escaped the country, and is now zipping a nice Mary, quite satisfied with his STAR business, already planning his return under another name. Since he seems to be far out (stars...) I guess he'll start the "Planet PTR Group" with "Unbelievable Uranus Earnings", "Precious Pluto PTR", "Victory Venus Mails" etc....? |
Ah.. Are you not really aware that this WM of SuperStarMail/DreamStarMail just started up his nextstar "LightStarMail" in early May???
Hey! Are you (not) willing to join that one also?
I had signed up for SuperStar but refused to signup with DreamStar.. because I had a inkling of what this WM was doing..

and that did come to pass.
And I recently sign(ed)up with LightStarMail.. Why? .. just for the sake of curiosity. AM I clicking? Yeah.. One link a week or so..

Just to keep.. in touch..
6604
May 24 2004, 05:27 AM
Oh yes, how could the news about the VM opening LightStar have passed me...and no, I did NOT join...

Although I understand your curiosity...please keep us posted!!
Well, I have already come to terms with the fact that I have been ripped off, and that my ad propably won't be run at SuperStar...that's life in the GPTR world if you sign up for sam programs. Guess I've learned my lesson...
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