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kglaser
? Only 5,7,10 cent e-mails!
? ONLY CASH, NO POINTS!
? Refer Others and Get Paid
? $ 13 Sign-up bonus!
? $ 139 Dollar Payout for Free members!

5 cent mail to all $0.80 (40 second timer, no sponser ad)
7 cent mail to all $1.00 (60 second timer, no sponser ad)
10 cent mail to all $1.50 (80 second timer, no sponser ad)

637 members so far

No other comment. mad.gif

mcf
Did you see Lava ?? Puke too.
Dutchy
And still my mailbox is full of ads, I think some people will never learn.
kglaser
QUOTE (mcf @ May 4 2004, 08:48 PM)
Did you see Lava ?? Puke too.

Bleah, no I hadn't seen that yet mcf...you're right, another "winner" dry.gif
monicagulati
i didn't join blink.gif
madmeikal
just deleting some wasted bandwidth
bulldog10
Slighlty off topic, my apologies, but I've seen this name a lot today .. how would one pronounce "acok" ??
kglaser
LOL! Bulldog, I've been wondering just the same thing laugh.gif

Maybe it's meant to be like "A.C. OK"?
I hope?? tongue.gif
madmeikal
just deleting some wasted bandwidth
Dutchy
QUOTE (kglaser @ May 5 2004, 10:14 AM)
Maybe it's meant to be like "A.C. OK"?

Wishfull tinking? wink.gif
bulldog10
lol .. well, lol .. I'm glad I'm not the only one who wondered .. ok, AC .. lol
neha
what does acok means?

and what does AC,Ok means ?

anyone?

~neha
Floozie
Yeah, I was wondering how to say it, too.... and what I came up with wasn't very clean... ohmy.gif
hickle
Actually, ACOK shoule be ACOKE (A COKE). Because of the bad english of wm, it became ACOK. laugh.gif
Floozie
QUOTE (hickle @ May 4 2004, 10:07 PM)
Actually, ACOK shoule be ACOKE (A COKE). Because of the bad english of wm, it became ACOK. laugh.gif

I never would have come up with that... blink.gif
bulldog10
QUOTE (hickle @ May 4 2004, 11:07 PM)
Actually, ACOK shoule be ACOKE (A COKE). Because of the bad english of wm, it became ACOK.  laugh.gif

Thanks for the help there smile.gif

But, wouldn't using the name coke in a name cause huge copyright violations?

floozie .. lol, you really aren't a floozie, are ya? wink.gif j/k !!

neha, the way that I saw it was ac = air conditioning, I don't know any other abbreviation for ac, other than electrical stuff, ac = alternating current! I think it was kind of a joke, I could be wrong, please don't hold me to that laugh.gif
Ton
Yet many members are promoting the site. Every ptr I joined has advertisers advertising this site.
anneonline
QUOTE (Dutchy @ May 5 2004, 02:51 AM)
And still my mailbox is full of ads, I think some people will never learn.

What you mean, it is a good opportunity for buying cheap ads isn't it?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Oh and by the way, seen from the country the wm originates, I think the pronounciation should be ASOK. smile.gif
neha
What Does ASOK means?

codi
Eeee, I know answer biggrin.gif Ac- this is part of Webdriver surname... Ok- this is part of Webdriver friend surname... :] Have you reward for me? biggrin.gif
tornados
QUOTE (hickle @ May 5 2004, 05:07 AM)
Actually, ACOK shoule be ACOKE (A COKE). Because of the bad english of wm, it became ACOK. laugh.gif

havent seen your racist comments in a while
tornados
you dont know a thing about running a site, so dont criticise webdriver
he is doing a great job at acar-cash, and he is a great person, so he knows what he is doing.
codi
QUOTE (tornados @ May 5 2004, 11:28 AM)
you dont know a thing about running a site, so dont criticise webdriver
he is doing a great job at acar-cash, and he is a great person, so he knows what he is doing.

Tornados have right. Webdriver is very honest and friendly wm!!!
playeru
I don't know about this. Acar-cash is a great site.
PinkPanther
QUOTE (tornados @ May 5 2004, 11:28 AM)
you dont know a thing about running a site, so dont criticise webdriver
he is doing a great job at acar-cash, and he is a great person, so he knows what he is doing.

I agree with you wink.gif
rosy_anne
I've joined the program.
But have one thing that in my mind.

QUOTE

? Refer Others and Get Paid


And I didn't get a single Cnet so far.
Webdriver
QUOTE (rosy_anne @ May 5 2004, 11:49 AM)
I've joined the program.
But have one thing that in my mind.

QUOTE

? Refer Others and Get Paid


And I didn't get a single Cnet so far.

Level 1 - 6%
Level 2 - 4%
Level 3 - 2%
Level 4 - 2%
Level 5 - 1%

This u will earn from the referred members.
Webdriver
ACOK= Ac(ar) My surname
Ok(sak) My great friends surname

Heather17
QUOTE (madmeikal @ May 5 2004, 09:32 AM)
smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

637 Suc, I Mean Members so far??? GREAT!!!! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

at 13 bucks a crack, roflmao, that's a cool just over 8 Thousand Bucks this wm has themselves in Debt that they can't ever pay, rofl, smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Shouldn't be too long before that one rolls over.

MO.

At $139 payout I don't see that being the problem. I see the problem with this site is that no one reaches payout except members with hundreds in their downlines. I took one look at that payout and laughed. I can't believe that many people actually think they will ever reach payout and joined.
brownmind
QUOTE (Webdriver @ May 5 2004, 12:38 PM)
ACOK= Ac(ar) My surname
Ok(sak) My great friends surname

The problem is the name of your site sounds to funny for a lot of people and you know what I mean.

Just wondering if you really meant that we could all bite one if we thought we would get paid. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Ambrianna
QUOTE (brownmind @ May 5 2004, 12:50 PM)
Just wondering if you really meant that we could all bite one if we thought we would get paid. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

ROFLMAOPMP!


My poor sore throat that I've just irritated with howls of laughter thanks you for that comment. Tee hee smile.gif


wink.gif


~ Ambrie ~
bkoxefwo
QUOTE (Heather17 @ May 5 2004, 12:46 PM)
QUOTE (madmeikal @ May 5 2004, 09:32 AM)
smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

637 Suc, I Mean Members so far???  GREAT!!!!  smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

at 13 bucks a crack, roflmao, that's a cool just over 8 Thousand Bucks this  wm has themselves in Debt that they can't ever pay, rofl, smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Shouldn't be too long before that one rolls over.

MO.

At $139 payout I don't see that being the problem. I see the problem with this site is that no one reaches payout except members with hundreds in their downlines. I took one look at that payout and laughed. I can't believe that many people actually think they will ever reach payout and joined.

actually it really depends on the volume of mail thats sent.

For instance... Bank Mails has a $180 payout. I have 0 referals and have been a member for a little over a month. My balance right now is at $55.69. ($10 is from the signup bonus) and I have $10.04 worth of emails in my inbox from them I need to catch up on. SO that means in another 2-3 months, at the current rate I will reach payout with having any referals. ANd thats without doing any of the on-site PTCs as for some reason I forgot about em until now and see a good 50 cents or more there right now.



madmeikal
just deleting some wasted bandwidth
brownmind
QUOTE (Ambrianna @ May 5 2004, 01:21 PM)
QUOTE (brownmind @ May 5 2004, 12:50 PM)
Just wondering if you really meant that we could all bite one if we thought we would get paid.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

ROFLMAOPMP!


My poor sore throat that I've just irritated with howls of laughter thanks you for that comment. Tee hee smile.gif


wink.gif


~ Ambrie ~

I am in a comedic mood today lol
punkass
why openning the same thread over and over again and discuss the same things over and over again ?

you don't like it - don't join.

don't post it in the complaints section ffs...
stop crying whenever a new program pops out!
madmeikal
just deleting some wasted bandwidth
punkass
QUOTE (madmeikal @ May 5 2004, 10:05 PM)
QUOTE (punkass @ May 6 2004, 03:49 AM)
why openning the same thread over and over again and discuss the same things over and over again ?

you don't like it - don't join.

don't post it in the complaints section ffs...
stop crying whenever a new program pops out!

Nope! smile.gif

The More we Hammer them with the Realities of these sites being Exactly what they Are, - Too Good to be True, - The More People will Finally Catch on, and Stop Unwittingly Supporting those same sites. wink.gif

Actually, although admittedly somewhat 'basic', with regards to life-skills, lol, 'Broken-Record', is an Extremely Powerfull and Proven method of Assertive Dialog... wink.gif

Having said all that, I Must admit, my Last post, was a little Rough, bordering on aggressive, and perhaps it's appropriate for me to apoligise to the few forum members here, whom I Unfortunately referred to as 'cronies', that was a bit harsh, and uncalled for.
But I Also think it's important that we 'Train' the newbies to the Growing trend of those that are, understandingly so, doing what they can to protect the 'integrety', term used loosely here, of the dl builders of these same sites. I think it Reasoned, to Counter 'Credibility' with 'Credibility Based on Facts'.

MO.

but it won't effect all.. maybe very small amount of members won't join!!

the newbies (%90 of this industry) will ALWAYS prefer 5cents emails abouve 0.5cents.. no matter what.
tornados
you can keep crying on every site, while thousands will join
if you enjoy spending your time righting nonsense comments, have fun.
ill be making money in that time instead.
mentol
what if I started EVRY SINGLE DAY a complaint folder for the sites you name "sustainable" and say that their ads are to expensive !?!?!?! would it be ok !?

stop harrasing other WM. like punkass said: don't like it - don't join is a matter of choosing!

(mentol)
tornados
I really dont know what all you crazy campaigns are about.
except a small number of members in this forum, no body cares and will care.
you are trying to convince people advertise something that costs $10X when they can get the same things for $X.
why should anyone do that?!
competition brings prices down, more options and its better for everyone.
if you could, for example, buy something, lets say bread.
one place is selling it for $1, and the other $10
where would you buy it??
maybe you would buy for $10 because the other one is destroying the market?

if you like to spend your money, or click for 0.25c, go ahead.
most people dont.
even if I was 99% sure that I WONT be paid from a program, but I would reach payout 10 times faster and 10 times bigger, I would try for that 1%. its really not worth clicking for 6 month to get $5, when now I make hundreds a month.
mentol
QUOTE (tornados @ May 5 2004, 11:30 PM)
I really dont know what all you crazy campaigns are about.
except a small number of members in this forum, no body cares and will care.
you are trying to convince people advertise something that costs $10X when they can get the same things for $X.
why should anyone do that?!
competition brings prices down, more options and its better for everyone.
if you could, for example, buy something, lets say bread.
one place is selling it for $1, and the other $10
where would you buy it??
maybe you would buy for $10 because the other one is destroying the market?

if you like to spend your money, or click for 0.25c, go ahead.
most people dont.
even if I was 99% sure that I WONT be paid from a program, but I would reach payout 10 times faster and 10 times bigger, I would try for that 1%. its really not worth clicking for 6 month to get $5, when now I make hundreds a month.

biggrin.gif laugh.gif

! right !

(mentol)
giogr
I THINK THIS MUST STOP!!!!
I dont like it any more and i think some action has to be taken all the time the same people complaining about the new sites!!!!
A QUESTION TO ALL OF YOU HAVE YOU REQUESTED PAYOUT AND DIDNT GET YOUR PAYMENT????
If you just make estimations you just destroy the name of every new site with high paying links and this must be stopped!!!!
You dont have any right to say bad things for a site if you dont have any experience that it scammed you!
Webdrivers sites and other high payout sites all paid me and i am happy that i became a member of this sites!
If i was an owner of this type of site i would ask moderators to stop people saying bad things for my site unless they have something realy to complain for!
It must be an end to all this calumniation of high payout sites!!!
I think mods should look into this
tornados
QUOTE (giogr @ May 5 2004, 10:45 PM)
I THINK THIS MUST STOP!!!!
I dont like it any more and i think some action has to be taken all the time the same people complaining about the new sites!!!!
A QUESTION TO ALL OF YOU HAVE YOU REQUESTED PAYOUT AND DIDNT GET YOUR PAYMENT????
If you just make estimations you just destroy the name of every new site with high paying links and this must be stopped!!!!
You dont have any right to say bad things for a site if you dont have any experience that it scammed you!
Webdrivers sites and other high payout sites all paid me and i am happy that i became a member of this sites!
If i was an owner of this type of site i would ask moderators to stop people saying bad things for my site unless they have something realy to complain for!
It must be an end to all this calumniation of high payout sites!!!
I think mods should look into this

I agree, people can say their opinions but saying scam when the site just launches?!
brownmind
QUOTE (tornados @ May 5 2004, 03:30 PM)
I really dont know what all you crazy campaigns are about.
except a small number of members in this forum, no body cares and will care.
you are trying to convince people advertise something that costs $10X when they can get the same things for $X.
why should anyone do that?!
competition brings prices down, more options and its better for everyone.
if you could, for example, buy something, lets say bread.
one place is selling it for $1, and the other $10
where would you buy it??
maybe you would buy for $10 because the other one is destroying the market?

if you like to spend your money, or click for 0.25c, go ahead.
most people dont.
even if I was 99% sure that I WONT be paid from a program, but I would reach payout 10 times faster and 10 times bigger, I would try for that 1%. its really not worth clicking for 6 month to get $5, when now I make hundreds a month.

Your option, but I am going to join in the cutting up of these type sites as they come out. Because the little $5 sites keep hanging around. What you should do is go to the webmasters home that own these fly-by-night sites and just get cash from him right away, its a lot faster.
tornados
lets say, the little sites last forver and always pay (which isnt true).
even in just 1 month, ill get 100 times more then ill ever get in a low payout site.
and most sites last. AYS is around for years, and I know more low payout scams and sites taking ages to pay then high payout ones actually.
giogr
QUOTE (tornados @ May 6 2004, 05:01 AM)
lets say, the little sites last forver and always pay (which isnt true).
even in just 1 month, ill get 100 times more then ill ever get in a low payout site.
and most sites last. AYS is around for years, and I know more low payout scams and sites taking ages to pay then high payout ones actually.

I agree and i give my stats form a low payout low link value site(actually the only one i am a member of)

MY STATS AFTER OF 6 MONTHS BEEN A MEMBER AND 100% ACTIVE CLICKING ALL ADS:

You have directly earned: $ 6.6670 unsure.gif

kglaser
QUOTE (tornados @ May 5 2004, 04:30 PM)
even if I was 99% sure that I WONT be paid from a program, but I would reach payout 10 times faster and 10 times bigger, I would try for that 1%. its really not worth clicking for 6 month to get $5, when now I make hundreds a month.

So when you're promoting this program, you wrote in your ad:

"There's only 1% chance you'll ever get paid from this program but heck...give it a shot!"

Of course not. But the heck with everyone under you...you'll lie to all of them to make a buck, won't you.
Webdriver
QUOTE (madmeikal @ May 5 2004, 08:37 PM)
QUOTE (tornados @ May 5 2004, 06:28 PM)
you dont know a thing about running a site, so dont criticise webdriver
he is doing a great job at acar-cash, and he is a great person, so he knows what he is doing.

OK, MO don't know his 'acok' from the other end, cool.

And I see that 'Webdriver', the wm of acok-mails is Here in this thread with us, and I'm certain he will be Soon to post that I don't know what I'm Talking about, when I Assert the Following about the website, Acok-Mails.com:

1- The WM of Acok-Mails, can Afford to take Loses at the rate of $1,300.00 US, for Every 1,000 signups, on Signup Bonuses Alone, because he has NO intention of Ever Paying those signup bonuses to members when they finally reach payout.

Correct Webdriver?

((( The Current Membership of Acok-Mails.com is "" Total members: 2,095 "", so Webdriver has taken a loss on Signup Bonuses Alone of $27,235.00 USD's.)))

Where are you going to get that 27 Thousand Bucks Webdriver??? Come ON, how Stupid do you Think we are????

I Post these 'Lies'? about your site, because I don't know what I'm Talking about???
-Let's see if ole MO and Webdriver Combined know Anything about a ptr ?!?
-Webdriver And MO Know for a Fact, that a Lot of that 27 Thousand bucks is Irrelevent, Don't we? Sure we do. You'll be able to delete a Lot of those signups, for Cheating, illegal signups, and other reasons, Nothing Wrong with that, and you'll save yourself a Huge amount of money, if you let them click their way to payout Before deleting them, but I'm sure you know all that, being the seasoned wm, the acok cronies in this thread would have us all believe, so let's just have you tell us where you'll get the Remainder? tanks.

2- At just a 50% clickthrough, Webdriver can afford to take loses at the following rates for paid advertising purchases, vrs rises in accounts payable:

5 cent mail to all $1.50 (Currently losing $50.88 a Shot):
7 cent mail to all $1.90 (Currently losing $71.43 a Shot):
10 cent mail to all $2.30 (Currently losing $102.45 a Shot):

At a Typical ptr 100% Garenteed Clickthrough ptc's, (as stated on the acok site):

1000 1 cent PTC's $2,5 (Losing $7.50 a Shot).
etc,
5000 1 cent PTC's $8 (Losing $42.00 a Shot).

Comments Webdriver? tanks.

Perhaps the Owners of GPForum, might want to ReConsider the Name, and Contemplate taking gpf to the Next Level, and ReNaming it to Dgpforum...

So, Webdriver, the Issue Here, is Not whether MO does or does Not, Falsely Accuse you of running a scam website, but Rather, Does MO or does he Not, have the Right to Assert your site to be Guilty, until Proven Innocent, on the Basis of the Only Current Facts Available, Those of the Stated Loses Incurred on the Site Itself.?

Come ONNNNNNN, Where are the ''Real WM's" in this thread??? ALEX??? AMY??? CHARITY??? MIKE???

How Long would YOU Guys/Gals be around, if you started selling This Crud?
""5 cent mail to all $1.50"" ?

Let me Guess. You, webdriver, took your ptr training from CheeChong, and your reply to inquiries of 'how will you pay members, taking such horid loses on your paid advertising?', will be "" I sell a lot more than paid advertising... ""

MO. (Love the 'random payouts' thingy Webdriver, it gives the acok cronies 'Ammunition' to fire at MO, and any other would-be critics, that have the sitename_attatchments to Speak Up). wink.gif

On paper it's like u say but in practice it isn't.. u don't know anything about running a ptr (like tornados said). So please stop being a smart guy

One more time Acar or Acok will never be a scam ptr and I won't be a scam wm. I have started Acok for all my members for their profit (want to interest big advertisers) and this is what I get back... well thanks blink.gif


Thanks,
Ali Acar

Ambrianna
QUOTE (kglaser @ May 5 2004, 04:39 PM)
QUOTE (tornados @ May 5 2004, 04:30 PM)
even if I was 99% sure that I WONT be paid from a program, but I would reach payout 10 times faster and 10 times bigger, I would try for that 1%. its really not worth clicking for 6 month to get $5, when now I make hundreds a month.

So when you're promoting this program, you wrote in your ad:

"There's only 1% chance you'll ever get paid from this program but heck...give it a shot!"

Of course not. But the heck with everyone under you...you'll lie to all of them to make a buck, won't you.

You mean...being honest and upfront is supposed to play a part in advertising/ptr?

biggrin.gif laugh.gif


~ Ambrie ~
madmeikal
just deleting some wasted bandwidth
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