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Tigress8u
Just received this email

hello every one site is under new ownership as to miss mendy not being able to run it due to an illness and having surgery. there will be some changes made to the site first being new hosting will be taking affect soon second all members will need to sign back up soon as the hosting is changed we did not recieve money to pay out peep and some of you know you are making a pile your old webmaster used every thing she was given to payout and she has some left to payout also sorry but this is the way it will have to be unless you have better ideas which me and one more will have final say so in what happens i know you are not going to like this idea and want to email me telling me how sorry and low down i am but before you do don't i will not take abuse in the least don't email your old webmasters about this as they don't have any thing to do with this site any more as i said there are new owners and that is the way it is sorry if you don't like it but as i said that is the way it has to be

What happens to all the money people put in to upgrade? mad.gif
cybertongue
What's with these illiterate people who take over programs (or start one in the first place) who can't create sentences?

And does this surprise anyone? Mendy didn't have a clue what she was doing and it's probably better that she's gone.
arben
Sorry Tigress8u about this. sad.gif

I am glad that I was deleted from this program due to inactivity. It was good for second, but when the site changed ownership I had to get out of there.

Also, I am offering english classes to WM's so they will learn how to write a paragraph in a proper way. Geez, no comma, period or anything to finish a sentence. rolleyes.gif
pookie
QUOTE (cybertongue @ Apr 26 2004, 02:46 PM)
What's with these illiterate people who take over programs (or start one in the first place) who can't create sentences?



Exactly!
Tigress8u
QUOTE (cybertongue @ Apr 27 2004, 08:46 AM)
What's with these illiterate people who take over programs (or start one in the first place) who can't create sentences?

And does this surprise anyone? Mendy didn't have a clue what she was doing and it's probably better that she's gone.

Oh I agree its better she has gone

But new owner just said everyone will start from scratch

No upgrades, no referral. I broke even, just. But many didn't
First owner, Dawn, ran a competition for upgrades which many took advantage of.

They can now kiss that money goodbye mad.gif
Tigress8u
Another CaShits
davidbugs
I decide quit Santapaidemail. I already email her To Demand GET RID OF THOSE ANNOYING POP UP ADS!!! It is driving me crazy since I would not be able to download Pop up Blocker!!!

Im glad Im not member of this program anymore!! Mendy turning to be The Next Grince Stole Christmas!! Bad Santa Bad Santa rolleyes.gif
pookie
That is about the silliest thing I've heard today! How many people want to start over? mad.gif


Like they said, doesn't matter what you think, they have the final say.
cybertongue
QUOTE (Tigress8u @ Apr 26 2004, 12:50 PM)
QUOTE (cybertongue @ Apr 27 2004, 08:46 AM)
What's with these illiterate people who take over programs (or start one in the first place) who can't create sentences?

And does this surprise anyone?  Mendy didn't have a clue what she was doing and it's probably better that she's gone.

Oh I agree its better she has gone

But new owner just said everyone will start from scratch

No upgrades, no referral. I broke even, just. But many didn't
First owner, Dawn, ran a competition for upgrades which many took advantage of.

They can now kiss that money goodbye mad.gif

Tigress, did you pay for your upgrade with PayPal? If so, I highly suggest you do a charge-back. There is absolutely no reason not to, even if you did break even, you no longer have what you paid for and Mendy should not be able to get away with this.
pookie
That's a great idea! How do you do a charge back? Do you have to go through the whole complaint process because if so, that doesn't work... LOL


Edited to added: That DOESN'T work rolleyes.gif
cybertongue
QUOTE (pookie @ Apr 26 2004, 12:55 PM)
That's a great idea! How do you do a charge back? Do you have to go through the whole complaint process because if so, that does work... LOL

Go to PayPal.com and click on the contact us link on the bottom of the page. Call them up and explain the situation. They will send you an affidavit that you need to sign and send back to them. If you have a printer, they will email the affidavit to you so you can print it off and send it. If you're not sure that it qualifies for a charge-back, they'll let you know. smile.gif
sophieca
Do we know the new owner or is he/she a totally new PO ?
Tigress8u
QUOTE (cybertongue @ Apr 27 2004, 08:53 AM)
Tigress, did you pay for your upgrade with PayPal? If so, I highly suggest you do a charge-back. There is absolutely no reason not to, even if you did break even, you no longer have what you paid for and Mendy should not be able to get away with this.

I upgraded under original owner Dawn

And Dawn never accepted PayPal for anything, so nope sad.gif
pookie
Thank you very much cybertongue! I think we should start hitting them back where it hurts (in the pocket book) and that will teach them to quit scamming/stealing! mad.gif
cybertongue
QUOTE (Tigress8u @ Apr 26 2004, 12:58 PM)
QUOTE (cybertongue @ Apr 27 2004, 08:53 AM)
Tigress, did you pay for your upgrade with PayPal?  If so, I highly suggest you do a charge-back.  There is absolutely no reason not to, even if you did break even, you no longer have what you paid for and Mendy should not be able to get away with this.

I upgraded under original owner Dawn

And Dawn never accepted PayPal for anything, so nope sad.gif

That's crappy... sad.gif
cybertongue
QUOTE (pookie @ Apr 26 2004, 12:59 PM)
Thank you very much cybertongue! I think we should start hitting them back where it hurts (in the pocket book) and that will teach them to quit scamming/stealing! mad.gif

I agree. What other recourse do we have? It's one thing to join sustainable sites and all that stuff, but that doesn't always protect us from POs running out and giving their programs to morons who don't care about the members. sad.gif
pookie
I agree 110%

When we find a way to hit them where it hurts, they will stop this crud!
fun4moms
QUOTE (davidbugs @ Apr 27 2004, 04:51 AM)
Im glad Im not member of this program anymore!! Mendy turning to be The Next Grince Stole Christmas!! Bad Santa Bad Santa rolleyes.gif

does anyone else think davidbugs is the funniest person on gpf? you crack me up! laugh.gif
cybertongue
QUOTE (fun4moms @ Apr 26 2004, 01:24 PM)
QUOTE (davidbugs @ Apr 27 2004, 04:51 AM)
Im glad Im not member of this program anymore!!  Mendy turning to be The Next Grince Stole Christmas!! Bad Santa Bad Santa  rolleyes.gif

does anyone else think davidbugs is the funniest person on gpf? you crack me up! laugh.gif

lmao, I had missed that post... Yes, Davidbugs may be the funniest member here... lol
Susy
Pookie, now do you see why there's some of us who actually dare to ask those hard questions when seeing things that don't sound right? There are many that have been taken advantage of, and ARE being taken advantage of. Many fully supporting these sites (AND the AWESOME po's) wink.gif and getting the royal screw put to them.

Every one of these "hand off" sites, especially. Ultimately, very FEW will last. Sheesh! Look at the fiasco with the Rebel sites. And remember the thread about wonderful sweet Ms. Mendy handing off sites to "take over" a new one? Then handing off, handing off, back and forth......AD NAUSEUM. And what was it, Karmic?

Does anyone know who ANY of the po's are anymore? This has gone on so long, even I almost joined one the other day, only to find out it was one that had been handed off several times, and I was even confused. blink.gif

Deletions, penalties, hand offs, re-signups, no backups (or lied about backups), over-zealous bonuses, bad ad prices, po's sneaking off into the night, some proven to have lied about heartbreaking illnesses/deaths, sheesh the list could go on forever. And people wonder why we get a bit upset???? huh.gif
davidbugs
Hey people if you are Santapaidemail member. You can find about his information Whois.net

http://www.whois.net/

They found some information the webmaster of WBR-. They even find where they live at!!
Tigress8u
Registrant:
Henry Chan (SANTASPAIDEMAIL-COM-DOM)
P.O.BOX SS-6348/A124
-, Nassau -
Bahamas
-
-
henrychan852@yahoo.com

Domain Name: SANTASPAIDEMAIL.COM

WAGP
Hi everyone,

Reading all this comes kinda as a shock to me. As I haven't read today's emails (I have some catching up to do), I didn't know this was happening.
I know a lot of sites are scams, but I honestly thought Miss Mendy was honest and that she'd be here for the long run.
I have spent 100$ for her, One gold membership on 3 sites (santa's, karmic & cashemailer). I really hope karmic and most importantly cashemailer will be ok I think the new owners are Leona, and Lisa...or mistie?..can't remember..oh well).

It is really sad to see all those scams. I sincerly do hope there will still be some honest sites left after all this.

And one more thing I'd like to add, and I really hope this will not be considered as spamming or anything, because that is not my intention.
What I wasnt to say is that I have recently (6 days ago) opened my own PTR site. Wait, don't go "sheeesh!" just yet. Hear me out.

I truly intend on it being a long lasting, honest, fun & PAYING website.
I really thought about things before starting it: sustainable ad prices yet affordable, lots of ad options, some fun stuff (trivia, contests), each email I send can be replied to and I will read it, click values go from 0.5 cent to 25 cents, a few things other sites don't have, no searches, no signup bonus & no referral signup bonus (but I do lots of contests and stuff, so the honest and active members will be rewarded, but not the cheaters), and so on..

Here is the name of my site, which I will gladly remove if you feel posting it is inapropriate: weallgetpaid.com

Again, if you feel any part of this post to be inapropriate, pm me and I will edit it.

Best of luck to all of you, and I hope the PTR business will soon be scam-free!

Olivier Robins
Tigress8u
Domain: SPP-CRAZYHITS.COM

Registrant/Owner: 000-MV69624
Shoan
2919 Nowhere
jasper al, 35501
US

Administrative Contact: 000-MV69624
Shoan Bowden
2919 Nowhere
jasper al, 35501
US
+1.5215487454
acwinfo2001@yahoo.com
Tigress8u
2919 Nowhere sounds like someone hiding to me
davidbugs
I think the webmaster of santapaidemails live in somewhere in Alabama

Jasper, Alabama United states??
Tigress8u
QUOTE (davidbugs @ Apr 27 2004, 09:51 AM)
I think the webmaster of santapaidemails live in somewhere in Alabama

Jasper, Alabama United states??

It says Bahamas on info above
cybertongue
QUOTE (davidbugs @ Apr 26 2004, 01:51 PM)
I think the webmaster of santapaidemails live in somewhere in Alabama

Jasper, Alabama United states??

Unless there's another Jasper, it would be Wyoming....
davidbugs
This is I found information in Whoisnet.net about santapaidemails. Giving False Information!!

Registration Service Provided By: createasite4u
Contact: webmaster@createasite4u.com
Visit:

Domain name: santaspaidemails.com

Registrant Contact:
santaspaidemails.com
Jacob JIngle Smith (webmaster@santaspaidemails.com)
+1.2257730256
Fax: +1.123
104 I hate this info
None ya;)
Buisness, 43312
US

Administrative Contact:
santaspaidemails.com
Jacob JIngle Smith (webmaster@santaspaidemails.com)
+1.2257730256
Fax: +1.123
104 I hate this info
None ya;)
Buisness, 43312
US

Billing Contact:
santaspaidemails.com
a a (webmaster@santaspaidemails.com)
+1.123
Fax: +1.123
a
a, 12
US

Technical Contact:
santaspaidemails.com
Jacob JIngle Smith (webmaster@santaspaidemails.com)
+1.2257730256
Fax: +1.123
104 I hate this info
None ya;)
Buisness, 43312
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns21.go-mama-hosting.com
ns22.go-mama-hosting.com

Creation date: 18 Dec 2003 09:06:24
Expiration date: 18 Dec 2004 09:06:24
Tigress8u
Okay so apparently there is a Santaspaidemail and a Santaspaidemails

Domain name: santaspaidemails.com

Registrant Contact:
santaspaidemails.com
Jacob JIngle Smith (webmaster@santaspaidemails.com)
+1.2257730256
Fax: +1.123
104 I hate this info
None ya;)
Buisness, 43312
US
cybertongue
I guess I should apologize to anyone who thinks I'm gloating about all this, but I really can't help myself. I knew that Mendy was a liar from the minute she came to this forum and promised her longevity in PTR. So this is my one "I told you so"... Although I do feel bad for the newbies who didn't know any better.
Tigress8u
Still somebody else hiding

I am glad I didn't join this one with all the bogus info on whois.net
Susy
I just pulled up an Alabama map. LOL There is a Jasper listed. Doesn't look to be too tiny. tongue.gif
cybertongue
QUOTE (Susy @ Apr 26 2004, 02:00 PM)
I just pulled up an Alabama map. LOL There is a Jasper listed. Doesn't look to be too tiny. tongue.gif

Nevermind then... lol I live in the northwest, so I have no clue what's going on over there... smile.gif
pookie
Yes Susy! user posted image
Susy
I thought it was illegal to DELIBERATELY falsify registration info? Isn't that what GoDaddy is used for? You can pay extra to have the registration information hidden, but otherwise, aren't you "supposed" to register properly? And wouldn't that fall under misinformation? And shouldn't the hosting company refuse to allow that? They could just charge the extra and hide the info.
cybertongue
QUOTE (Susy @ Apr 26 2004, 02:04 PM)
I thought it was illegal to DELIBERATELY falsify registration info? Isn't that what GoDaddy is used for? You can pay extra to have the registration information hidden, but otherwise, aren't you "supposed" to register properly? And wouldn't that fall under misinformation? And shouldn't the hosting company refuse to allow that? They could just charge the extra and hide the info.

Sure it is, but do you really expect these scammers to uphold the law? They can't even be bothered to say goodbye before ditching their programs, much less type the correct info in there. Heaven forbid, someone would be able to find them to take them to small claims court. dry.gif
cajunlady
The 225 telephone prefix is a Louisiana area code. Baton Rouge area.

Something tells me we won't be seeing Miss Mendy as President anytime soon. rolleyes.gif As a matter of fact, I doubt if we'll be seeing Miss Mendy and her accounting degree AT ALL! laugh.gif
cybertongue
QUOTE (cajunlady @ Apr 26 2004, 02:11 PM)
The 225 telephone prefix is a Louisiana area code. Baton Rouge area.

Something tells me we won't be seeing Miss Mendy as President anytime soon. rolleyes.gif As a matter of fact, I doubt if we'll be seeing Miss Mendy and her accounting degree AT ALL! laugh.gif

Won't hear me bichin... lol
pookie
Wait! I'm sure her lawyer adviced her to do this. wink.gif
hhuisman2
it must be a really dangerour profession to be webmaster of a PTR-site: so many of them get ill or end up in the hospital, not to meantion deaths in the rest of the family. I've never met so much tragedy since I joined these sites....
cajunlady
Hey cyber, you feeling OK? wink.gif





Just checking. tongue.gif
Susy
Cajun, don't be so sure about that. Afterall, po's have a bad habit of re-visiting the scene of their crimes. wink.gif Can't stay away. They know they can get away with it. APPARENTLY, no one cares about false info, from the looks of it.

Pookie, stop that. LOL tongue.gif
pookie
QUOTE (Susy @ Apr 26 2004, 04:16 PM)
Cajun, don't be so sure about that. Afterall, po's have a bad habit of re-visiting the scene of their crimes. wink.gif Can't stay away. They know they can get away with it. APPARENTLY, no one cares about false info, from the looks of it.

Pookie, stop that. LOL tongue.gif

but, but I was just trying to have fun tongue.gif
cybertongue
QUOTE (cajunlady @ Apr 26 2004, 02:15 PM)
Hey cyber, you feeling OK? wink.gif





Just checking. tongue.gif

Yep, I'm fine and dandy here... Big poo-eatin' grin on my face... lmao
Alcarin
QUOTE (hhuisman2 @ Apr 26 2004, 05:13 PM)
it must be a really dangerour profession to be webmaster of a PTR-site: so many of them get ill or end up in the hospital, not to meantion deaths in the rest of the family. I've never met so much tragedy since I joined these sites....

Hahahah, indeed! We should be happy that it's not contagious and we (the members) can't catch it too.
cybertongue
Speaking of sick POs.... I had a really bad headache the other day, and my stomach hurt because I worked out on the TorsoTrack too much. But somehow I found the strength to send out about 15 emails... But believe me, it was really awful and I just wanted to close my site because of it... All that sitting around on my backside nearly killed me. lmao
biidaaban
QUOTE (cybertongue @ Apr 26 2004, 05:41 PM)
Speaking of sick POs.... I had a really bad headache the other day, and my stomach hurt because I worked out on the TorsoTrack too much. But somehow I found the strength to send out about 15 emails... But believe me, it was really awful and I just wanted to close my site because of it... lmao

i have a hang nail, oh wait... doesn't count i'm not a PO, just po'd LOL
mcf
QUOTE (hhuisman2 @ Apr 26 2004, 07:13 PM)
it must be a really dangerour profession to be webmaster of a PTR-site: so many of them get ill or end up in the hospital, not to meantion deaths in the rest of the family. I've never met so much tragedy since I joined these sites....

Aint it the truth laugh.gif
cybertongue
QUOTE (biidaaban @ Apr 26 2004, 02:43 PM)
QUOTE (cybertongue @ Apr 26 2004, 05:41 PM)
Speaking of sick POs....  I had a really bad headache the other day, and my stomach hurt because I worked out on the TorsoTrack too much.  But somehow I found the strength to send out about 15 emails...  But believe me, it was really awful and I just wanted to close my site because of it...  lmao

i have a hang nail, oh wait... doesn't count i'm not a PO, just po'd LOL

Same letters, so it counts. lol
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