Main points are really:

KidaMail.Com (possible scam) has been bought by the 'Shojo Group'. Membership will be wiped, and re-opens on 20 April.

ShojoMail shareholders bonuses announced etc.

ShojoMail redemption amount decreased from $30 to $20.

Dont like this one bit!

So kidamail is bought out hey?
$1000 .. you must be joking!

Don Phillipe .. you came on here not so long ago and said how the owner had promised to pay everybody what was due and then change the structure from points to cash.

Now instead you are giving it to your shojomail members!



Sure,Sure and how honest is not paying members and how the hell is bringing him into your managment meant to make things honest?

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! :mad:

Well, we have sent another message and cleared that it is not $ 1000 but it is $ 100.
We may have said that but the guy suddenly refused to pay as he had said and then we just changed everything from his site as we had his FTP and LOGIN and PASSWORD. then we changed everything and he came back saying that he is ready to pay but we said that that is not okey and we want to buy your site. He asked for $ 500 but we said we will give $ 100 only and not a cent more and we bought it.
Sorry for last say. He is really cheater. And we have not only taken management but bough the whole site so whole owner is JOHN and DON PHILIPPE and SHJOJOGROUP.

thanks

webmaster@shojomail.com
webmaster@shojosearch.com

Really?

Like to tell us why Shojomail, Shojosearch and Kidamail all have same details on a whois?

Dont tell me you have just updated because sandesh's name appears on shojomails records from the 18th march! :confused:

well, shojosearch and kidamail were the sites of sandesh and shojomail was designed and handed over to us by him. well if whoise is showing that owner of shojomail, shojosearch and kidamail is same it must as both shojosearch and kidamail were of same man and shojomail was registered by him. we will update the names for whose databse after 1 year is completed so we will not be charged and only he will be charged for 1 year.

do not make us angry, we are not sandesh.

thanks

JOHN and DON are PHILIPPE not sandesh

hmm not trying to making you angry but i asked when we can receive a payout it's says the min was $50 now i guess $20 have no clue whats going on but my account at about $650 would i be able to cash that or no. you sent an email saying once we have reached $50 well my account way over limiit, please explain how this cash out works

[ 04-12-2002: Message edited by: tombmailer ]

well, your account has not $ 650 in it. We had announced in our support e-mail and important info that you will be able to redeem referral bonus only when referral reaches minimum payout amount.

thanks

webmaster@shojomail.com

Excuse my french but I clicked my butt off for Kidamail. I always followed through on valid searches. They would send 15 a day when they started and I was excited because they had no minimum payout.

I want to say today I am leaving all Shojo oriented programs. I will search for other GOOD sites using your search engine but I do not want to do business directly with you.

I know I do not have referrals or the means to get many of them. Your payout minimum is too high for me and I do not like your dealings with KIdamail.

I have heard of other companies being bouught and the current members maintain their earnings and the company stays at the same format. It sounds like your purchase of Kidamail was a good deal to you and only you. You get a clean slate and unfortunate people who will re-sign up with your company.

By the way, your shares are "virtual". I checked the stock sites and you can buy a share of the huge profiting company MCDONALD'S for about as much as you can buy into your company.

If this thread gets me in trouble with other get paid webmasters I don't care. I am sick of the crap. I feel dumb and tricked. I won't take this stuff so serious anymore.

Sorry to cool people that I totally made a fool of myself here. All this get paid junk get weird sometimes and I realize now I am really guaranteed nothing.

Melinda =^..^=

I think you should be a little more clearer on the website than in an email , because your breaking your own terms. No where in the terms does it even discuss a you will be able to redeem referral bonus only when referral reaches minimum payout amount.
show me where

How much do I earn by participating in paid-emails?
Each advertiser pays a different amount per unique visit. These amounts change frequently so we cannot give an exact amount for each visit.

Are my referral earnings working?
Yes, it takes many paid emails received by members to have referral earnings show up, even for members that have 100's or 1000's in their downline. Referral earnings are displayed once a referred member has earned their referring member at least 1 full cent. Technically a member with 1000 referrals that have each earned him/her 1/2 cent has earned but their earnings will not be shown until an individual member has earned them 1 full cent. But we pay only 3 referral level 20 %, 10 % and 5 %

When can I request payment?
We pay you each month by Paypal, E-gold and check. However if you want payment by check minimum is $ 50 with $3 processing fee. Paypal or E-gold minimum is $ 30.

How can I request payment?
Well, if you have reached minimum payment amount then contact us with your members ID and PayPal e-mail address or e-gold number or mailing address if you want payment by check and we will pay you.

When am I paid?
After your payment request is made and your account is in good-standing we will issue payment to you within 30 days or a reasonable time there after.

How am I paid?
ShojoMail will pay members when the minimum amount balance is reached and account is in good standing. and if it is more that $ 50 you may request check with $ 3 processing fee.

Payments:

Members may earn by receiving paid-emails and visiting the advertiser websites after they have entered their member ID in the area on the website provided by ShojoMail. Members may earn by referring new members to the ShojoMail program. Members will 20 % of their direct referrals and 10 % and 5 % on 2nd and 3rd tier. $ 10 per valid referral. Members will be paid via Paypal, check., e-gold ShojoMail will pay members when their balance reaches $50 by check and $ 30 by Paypal and they request payment. Payments will be made within 30 days or a reasonable time after.
Check processing fee - $3.

[ 04-13-2002: Message edited by: tombmailer ]

well, your account has not $ 650 in it.Total Number of Sub Affilates 68
Total Number of Read Emails 5690
Total Read Email Commission $10.6043
Total Number of ClickThroughs 4132
Total ClickThrough Commission $4.1270
Total Number of Orders 0
Total Order Commission $0.0000
Total Commission $664.7313

really than what is all this?

[ 04-13-2002: Message edited by: tombmailer ]

So ...

The previous kidamail owner no longer has anything to do with Shojomail?

Why then does one of the links in your latest email points to

kidamail@india*****.com for a GetCash4email advert?

This address was also used by the guy in kidamail!

SCAM Full Stop

well, that is adverisers link and he has paid us $ 75 for his advertise campaign with us. Why? you can ask him if you know his e-mail address. we may also give you but you will again sya that we are him and again yell as SCAM....
stupid thing. we are getting angry. who are you? are you our affiliate? contact us and ask your doubts. why are you making our image as SCAM? what bad we have done with you?

We said that we are not sandesh. we are from philippe family.

please stop all this. If you have any doubts please contact me.

If you go on like this, i will have to file complaint against you. we are very calm pwople but not coward. we will do what we say. we mean it

thanks

webmaster@shojomail.com

Please DO NOT THREATEN ME!!!

This is a forum that is public, anyone can post.

So far i see all indications that you are a scam and i will EDITED well say so.
So far i havent posted 1 lie here - it is up to people to make up their own mind by looking at the evidence.

Once again, you can deny anything i say but DONT THREATEN ME OK! :mad:

i can do it. waiting for some more mistakes and do it. please dont force me. i dont like it. we can solve our problem another way.

thanks

webmaster@shojomail.com

Check your private messages, then maybe you might want to think again about your threatening behaviour :mad:

Now I know for a fact that I will not resign with Kidamail and will unsubscribe with Shojo. Not because I think it is a scam, I was going to wait and decide for myself, but because of Shojo's webmasters behavior in this forum. There is no reason to threaten anyone. You keep saying you are not a scam, but threatening people is not the best way to get your point across. You may want to try a different approach from now on before you lose all your members.

well, we are sorry for our behaviour and say sorry to all. But we were very very angry and that caused us to react that way.

Sorry again but not SCAM please

thanks

Amount: $5.00
Transaction ID: 5VT13642CW308124K
Subject: Your Shojomail Shareholder payment for March-April 2002

WOOHOO!!!! I got a payment! So if they were a scam they wouldn't pay you

btw for the RECORD! #1 in my book! This is the only paid to read i ever got a payment from LOL!

Thank you Shojo *cartwheeling all the way to the bank*

[ 04-15-2002: Message edited by: tombmailer ]