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leapinlizzards
HI,

does anyone know what happened to jamies magic mail? last i heard she was getting another site and promised she wouldn't abandon us. next i know we don't recieve any more ads and know when i go to the site it says its suspended.

can anyone give me any info?


Wendy
earners
I have a problem with this one too, paid for an ad, not sent, no replies.

starplanet
I really hope it's not gone for good..

She doesn't seem like the type of person to just let a site go, or do something without telling us sad.gif
littleheaven
I really like Jamies, I have put a lot into it b/c she seems very genuine. I just went to check the site and it has been suspended, so here I am looking for an answer as well...
I hope someone can answer this question! sad.gif

I just bought a bunch of advertising for Jamie's this week too...
bbakes25
Yes I would like to know what happened too. I emailed her a few days ago about why there was no emails(sent it to her site email). I also just emailed her using her AOL email address and I will see if she reads it then. I don't think she is the kind of person that would just disappear either. I have bought a couple of ads from he last week and she sent them out very quickly. I will let you know if I find anything out.
mvanantwerpen
This Account Has Exceeded Bandwidth

Please Contact The Billing Department. Thank you

unsure.gif
littleheaven
QUOTE (mvanantwerpen @ Apr 1 2004, 07:25 PM)
This Account Has Exceeded Bandwidth

Please Contact The Billing Department. Thank you

unsure.gif

What exactly does that mean for members?

Jamie needs to expand I'm assuming? I don't know much about websites, but how long does this kind of thing take?

Ok I'm really clueless about this tongue.gif

mvanantwerpen
QUOTE (littleheaven @ Apr 1 2004, 09:05 PM)
QUOTE (mvanantwerpen @ Apr 1 2004, 07:25 PM)
This Account Has Exceeded Bandwidth

Please Contact The Billing Department. Thank you

unsure.gif

What exactly does that mean for members?

Jamie needs to expand I'm assuming? I don't know much about websites, but how long does this kind of thing take?

Ok I'm really clueless about this tongue.gif

Bandwidth is the amount of traffic allowed per month almost...Depending on the amount of graphics etc, each visitor takes up more or less bandwidth wink.gif
littleheaven
QUOTE (mvanantwerpen @ Apr 1 2004, 09:07 PM)
QUOTE

Bandwidth is the amount of traffic allowed per month almost...Depending on the amount of graphics etc, each visitor takes up more or less bandwidth  wink.gif



Ok, that's what I was pretty sure of...

What I don't know is - how fast is this kind of thing fixed? What happens now with Jamies?

Thanks smile.gif
kidambi50
If you are talking about magiccash, then I had received an email from them a few days back that they are going to be "redemption for ad only" site and no redemption of cash! I have already quit the site. Nowadays, the WMs are very tricky, inscrutable and are doing nothing but loot and scoot. All members should beware and should go through this forum daily as a routine to keep abreast of the latest and to avoid pitfalls and loss.
K.Ramachandran:
cay1616

Jamies Magic Mails

This is all I can offer to you folks.
Jamie had some personal family trouble..Has to take care of it.
Yes she was going to take over InBox Cash but went ahead and let Mistie take that because of these personal trouble...That was what Mistie send out in the site's mail..
Never heard a word from her personally...and have not received anyword from the site...
Lets just sit tight and waite...
Hopefully she will get back with us all soon..
Heather17
I too would like to know if anyone has any more info. Jamies Magic Mail is one of my most favorite sites and Jamie has been a terrific, reliable, and considerate webmistress who has shown the utmost respect for members from day one. I am sure there is a very good reason and she will be back as soon as she can. If anyone knows any more please post. I am really looking forward to Jamies return.
concetto
Hi folks,

The site still is unavailable with the ?exceeded bandwidth? message. I host with the same company, and I had this happen once. My upgrade with more bandwith was a matter of less then an hour, so I assume Jamie has other reasons that she cannot be available at the moment.

Let?s give it some time

hhsix
QUOTE (Heather17 @ Apr 4 2004, 11:02 PM)
I too would like to know if anyone has any more info. Jamies Magic Mail is one of my most favorite sites and Jamie has been a terrific, reliable, and considerate webmistress who has shown the utmost respect for members from day one. I am sure there is a very good reason and she will be back as soon as she can. If anyone knows any more please post. I am really looking forward to Jamies return.

Just had to ditto those sentiments. smile.gif
littleheaven
I'm giving it time, she's got to have a reason. Unfortunately, this is looking really bad to friends of mine who have just decided "Jamie has taken off and isn't coming back, etc" -- so I'm sure lots of other peple are thinking the same way.
Jamies is a VERY popular new PTR, I'm worried that this is going to make people iffy about it when she does get back.

I wish I knew something, I keep waiting for her to come back- Jamies is the PTR that made me like PTRs wink.gif

I miss it sad.gif
momofbug
I think it is time that we all face it. Jamie's is gone. She is still active in several PTR sites. If she had an emergency, I don't think she would have time to still do her own clicking, but not find a way to let her members know what is going on. If anyone knows anything different, please let me know. I would love to eat my words! dry.gif
tiblackwell
sad, sad, sad.

no more sickenly sweet po's for me. they're disappearing way to frequently these days!

i'll take an old grouch who just say's hello and here's your mail from now on.
cpeggy3
I do not want to assume the worst, I would like to give her a chance. I only hope that she does come back because I have over 950 in my downline and a balance of $88.00 there. sad.gif

She has a really good site and it would be very nice if she would let the members know what is happening though.

teagansmama
I really miss it too, it was one of my top 3 favorites. But I do have an uneasy feeling about this...but I'm going to keep crossing my fingers for everything to be okay wink.gif
Mystic-Ice-Mails
She finally replied to me although I was never a member and she was very rude (I can post the e-mail if you all wish) but she has supposedly given away the site and does not care what has been done with it........
cpeggy3
I would definately like to see it.
teagansmama
I'm curious...let's see the e-mail cool.gif

Edited to add: what really irks me is now that I think about the fact that I purchased a few raffle tickets...and I'm sure many of you had as well. Where'd all that money go? mad.gif
Mystic-Ice-Mails
QUOTE (cpeggy3 @ Apr 9 2004, 10:58 PM)
I would definately like to see it.

Here it is word for word. Please note that I did not harass her and was not rude. I actually offered to take over the site for her...

QUOTE
hello,

i am sorry but i don't take lightly to rude WM's.  There is NO reason to
harass me, as for my site, i gave that up to somebody immediately after i
resigned from the Inboxcash site.  I emailed Kristen from Inboxcash the day after i
got offered it, explaining my reasons. Then i gave my site up that evening. 
What they did with my site is NONE of my business.  I had family problems to
deal with and still do.  Do not worry about cancelling my account, i will be
more than happy to cancel it for you.  As for the other sites, i have been
continually canceling my accounts with them.  I can only do a few a day, as i
belonged to many sites!  But don't worry,  i will be done with the PTR industry and
the rudeness very soon.

Sincerely,

Jamie.
teagansmama
wtf? she just gave up her site without informing any of her members...I really thought she was a better person than that. dry.gif
cpeggy3
Hmmm, man that sucks!!!!
Mystic-Ice-Mails
QUOTE (teagansmama @ Apr 9 2004, 11:10 PM)
wtf? she just gave up her site without informing any of her members...I really thought she was a better person than that. dry.gif

And then she called me rude when I offered to help.. So I replied and said that it was rude to owe people money and not let them know what is happening
starplanet
Ugh... that is so unfair sad.gif
bazaarbizarre
sad.gif I really REALLY liked her site - I am now officially bummed. Come back, little Jamie, come back!
teagansmama
So now the question is...is the site coming back with a new owner? Or is it just dead?
earners
QUOTE (bazaarbizarre @ Apr 10 2004, 05:33 AM)
sad.gif I really REALLY liked her site - I am now officially bummed. Come back, little Jamie, come back!

Come back!!!

Should that not be "Clear off"?

Well I'm off to make a complaint to stormpay and her host, whatever good that will do. The site needs to be taken down to stop others paying for non existant advertising.

Yet another nail in the paid industry, wake up people, she has dumped the site, taken advertising cash and taken gold membership money and members earnings.

She aint coming back and I'm just checking my sites now to see if she is a member cos she aint getting paid by me!
Mystic-Ice-Mails
QUOTE (earners @ Apr 9 2004, 11:53 PM)
QUOTE (bazaarbizarre @ Apr 10 2004, 05:33 AM)
sad.gif  I really REALLY liked her site - I am now officially bummed.  Come back, little Jamie, come back!

Come back!!!

Should that not be "Clear off"?

Well I'm off to make a complaint to stormpay and her host, whatever good that will do. The site needs to be taken down to stop others paying for non existant advertising.

Yet another nail in the paid industry, wake up people, she has dumped the site, taken advertising cash and taken gold membership money and members earnings.

She aint coming back and I'm just checking my sites now to see if she is a member cos she aint getting paid by me!

Do you know her username?
earners
No, just looking for her name but no luck so far.

Anyone else know her username?
bazaarbizarre
I hold a romanticized view of Jamies - my FIRST downline, my FIRST contest win, and so on and so forth. I've invested money there, too - advertising, earnings, working toward that coveted first downline, ad nauseum. It would be nice to be able to give her the benefit of the doubt, but I'm becoming more and more jaded. Her leave of absence may be completely legitimate. I guess that I will keep my "Eeyore" thoughts to myself and hold out for the best... I'm just bummed. huh.gif
pookie
I won't bite my tongue any longer. I just found out her username a couple days ago (jdubois78) and I checked the database for the program I'm helping out at and low and behold her last login was that very same day. I just checked again and her last login was today so yes, she's around, but obviously hiding out. mad.gif So Jamie, why not come out and let people know that you are okay and you are still lingering around. ph34r.gif
momofbug
QUOTE (teagansmama @ Apr 10 2004, 12:41 AM)
So now the question is...is the site coming back with a new owner? Or is it just dead?

I doubt that we will ever see that site running again. I checked on whois and the site is still registered to Jamie. It has not changed names there. And you all are right. This totally stinks. I, too finally had my first REAL downline. Over 620 total and she owed me over $100.

But, on a lighter note. I want to thank the WM of Mystic-Ice-Mails for all of her help. When I explained what had happened, she generously offered to try and find out what happened. Which she did! Thank you Nicole! I know I have already told you this, but I don't think it can be said enough!! It is wonderful belonging to your site. This industry needs alot more honest WM's like you. Not saying that there are not honest WM's out there, because I know there are. But, with the handful of bad ones, it can make you leary of joining new sites.

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myseeker
OMG. so sad. I thought she's a nice webmistress. I'm reaching the payout soon. sad.gif
bbyboop1977
Its sad. I had heard nice things about this program so I went and signed up. Now look. Oh well though. Although it would have been nice to have received something letting everyone know what was going on.

freebiesite
QUOTE (Mystic-Ice-Mails @ Apr 9 2004, 11:14 PM)
QUOTE (teagansmama @ Apr 9 2004, 11:10 PM)
wtf?  she just gave up her site without informing any of her members...I really thought she was a better person than that. dry.gif

And then she called me rude when I offered to help.. So I replied and said that it was rude to owe people money and not let them know what is happening


Well frankly I dont think much of wm who "offer to take over" sites..

let them die off, that is the ONLY thing that will make ptr at all worthwhile..

Jamie, whoever she is, sounds like just one more jerk, I like the term loot and scoot..

as for anyone who was in her site, email the new wm and let them know you want to be paid and email jamie....she has essentially sold your personal info and that is crummy....it is against the privacy policy and the tos...

demand your money....enough of the personal problems..I am sure many of the members have personal problems too....demand your money and if they do not pay report any emails from them as spam since you did not join with this wm...

frankly this should be done to any takeover wm...I hope they all fail, and i hope others will join in and see they do...I know it is lousy to lose in a program but face facts...the takeover wm usually end up changing to ads only or not paying or closing or selling it again....

take a stand, hit em where it hurts...then maybe more wm will NOT takeover these debtridden crud sites and then ptr might be worthwhile doing again JMO smile.gif
Jeter2
Does anyone know who she supposedly handed the site over to?
Mystic-Ice-Mails
QUOTE (freebiesite @ Apr 10 2004, 02:20 PM)
Well frankly I dont think much of wm who "offer to take over" sites..

let them die off, that is the ONLY thing that will make ptr at all worthwhile..

frankly this should be done to any takeover wm...I hope they all fail, and i hope others will join in and see they do...I know it is lousy to lose in a program but face facts...the takeover wm usually end up changing to ads only or not paying or closing or selling it again....

take a stand, hit em where it hurts...then maybe more wm will NOT takeover these debtridden crud sites and then ptr might be worthwhile doing again JMO smile.gif

Excuse me???????? I am not meaning to sound rude but A member of my site e-mailed me to help her get ahold of another WM, which happened to be Jamie..

Rather than see a site "die" and my members get ripped off by someone I offered to take over the site.

If that makes me a bad person or that I should die off or fail.. thats just wrong.. I do not believe in ads only sites, thank you, I am not even a member of any.. and I have paid my members even though we are only a new site.

If you do not like my ways or even me for that matter than, and again not to be rude, I hope you are not a member of my Honest PAYING Site.

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TO Momofbug: Thank You for your kind comments and your help with the site :-)
freebiesite
QUOTE (Mystic-Ice-Mails @ Apr 10 2004, 06:27 PM)
QUOTE (freebiesite @ Apr 10 2004, 02:20 PM)
Well frankly I dont think much of wm who "offer to take over" sites..

let them die off, that is the ONLY thing that will make ptr at all worthwhile..

frankly this should be done to any takeover wm...I hope they all fail, and i hope others will join in and see they do...I know it is lousy to lose in a program but face facts...the takeover wm usually end up changing to ads only or not paying or closing or selling it again....

  take a stand, hit em where it hurts...then maybe more wm will NOT takeover these debtridden crud sites and then ptr might be worthwhile doing again JMO  smile.gif

Excuse me???????? I am not meaning to sound rude but A member of my site e-mailed me to help her get ahold of another WM, which happened to be Jamie..

Rather than see a site "die" and my members get ripped off by someone I offered to take over the site.

If that makes me a bad person or that I should die off or fail.. thats just wrong.. I do not believe in ads only sites, thank you, I am not even a member of any.. and I have paid my members even though we are only a new site.

If you do not like my ways or even me for that matter than, and again not to be rude, I hope you are not a member of my Honest PAYING Site.

sad.gif

TO Momofbug: Thank You for your kind comments and your help with the site :-)


excuse me....yes I think NO one should take over a debt ridden site..

are you doing this out of the kindness of your heart?? is this your form of charity??

what is the debt on the site???? do u know?? please name me what debt ridden sites did someone take over and just pay everyone off? or even what takeovers have been successful??

look at the track record...I think anyone who would takeover a site in debt is either a very bad businessperson or a very crafty person..period..there are too many sites as it is...

the implication is always "to help the members"...but that usually does NOT work out that way...look how many times we have seen these hot potatos flop...

and yes I will do all I can to see that hot potatoes are stopped...

sooo...do you have a personal reserve of money to just pay off anyone who does not want their info sold?? Is this your form of "charity"?? If not, I would say it is probably best to let the sites die..that is the ONLY way the "false economy" of the ptr industry will ever level out...

Hopefully the scriptwriters will get wise and stop the transfer nonsense, stop supporting transferred sites...but til then I think we can all do our part by doing all we can to stop hot potato game...I hope you will join in thanks
freebiesite
QUOTE (Mystic-Ice-Mails @ Apr 10 2004, 06:27 PM)


Excuse me???????? I am not meaning to sound rude but A member of my site e-mailed me to help her get ahold of another WM, which happened to be Jamie..

Rather than see a site "die" and my members get ripped off by someone I offered to take over the site.

If that makes me a bad person or that I should die off or fail.. thats just wrong.. I do not believe in ads only sites, thank you, I am not even a member of any.. and I have paid my members even though we are only a new site.

If you do not like my ways or even me for that matter than, and again not to be rude, I hope you are not a member of my Honest PAYING Site.

sad.gif

TO Momofbug: Thank You for your kind comments and your help with the site :-)


LOL>>> as for your unprofessional comment you hope I am not a member of your site...dont worry smile.gif I wont advertise there either since you dont want me LOL

I guess you are new right?? maybe you dont understand that "offering to take over a site" is really a silly move businesswise...and that is what you are doing, right??running a business...

rather than holding grudges against people ...me for instance, you ought to be thinking in a businesslike way....I have just given you some great advice...unless you have the money to pay off jamies members...and that could be?? who knows..some sites lately had 9k..some had 20kdebt...some have had 39k debt..and some over 100k debt...

yes, I see on your site you have paid your members..you have 200 and you have paid out 11 bucks...are you aware of the debt of jamies site?? it is no doubt overwhelming....how would you propose to make that up???

JMO>..you have a site, you are new at this, why not put your time and energy into YOUR site and make it good rather than playing the site saver and trying to "save" sites...very few people are able to do it I think, and it would certainly take some financial backing..and to what advantage??? smile.gif
bbakes25
Its sad that JamiesMagicMail is gone. I had almost $30 or so dollars though. At least I think. Its been so long since I got to login last since her site is gone and the "new" owner hasn't done anything yet. I thought she was a better person than this too. I had bought ads from her and she always sent them out within 24 hours and was very kind in her emails to me. What cracks me up is though in one of her emails she sent she stated "We are here to say!". Well what do you know shes gone. I'm very tempted to call her and ask her what is going on. But whats the sense. She's gone I'm sure. Oh well I guess thats how some of these sites go. Which is truly sad.
Mystic-Ice-Mails
QUOTE (freebiesite @ Apr 10 2004, 10:39 PM)
QUOTE (Mystic-Ice-Mails @ Apr 10 2004, 06:27 PM)


Excuse me???????? I am not meaning to sound rude but A member of my site e-mailed me to help her get ahold of another WM, which happened to be Jamie..

Rather than see a site "die" and my members get ripped off by someone I offered to take over the site.

If that makes me a bad person or that I should die off or fail.. thats just wrong..  I do not believe in ads only sites, thank you, I am not even a member of any.. and I have paid my members even though we are only a new site.

If you do not like my ways or even me for that matter than, and again not to be rude, I hope you are not a member of my Honest PAYING Site.

sad.gif

TO Momofbug: Thank You for your kind comments and your help with the site :-)


LOL>>> as for your unprofessional comment you hope I am not a member of your site...dont worry smile.gif I wont advertise there either since you dont want me LOL

I guess you are new right?? maybe you dont understand that "offering to take over a site" is really a silly move businesswise...and that is what you are doing, right??running a business...

rather than holding grudges against people ...me for instance, you ought to be thinking in a businesslike way....I have just given you some great advice...unless you have the money to pay off jamies members...and that could be?? who knows..some sites lately had 9k..some had 20kdebt...some have had 39k debt..and some over 100k debt...

yes, I see on your site you have paid your members..you have 200 and you have paid out 11 bucks...are you aware of the debt of jamies site?? it is no doubt overwhelming....how would you propose to make that up???

JMO>..you have a site, you are new at this, why not put your time and energy into YOUR site and make it good rather than playing the site saver and trying to "save" sites...very few people are able to do it I think, and it would certainly take some financial backing..and to what advantage??? smile.gif

I am not getting into an arguement with you. I do not have a grudge against you.
I was just hurt that I was tring to help a member and you say that you hope my site fails and should die.. whatever comments you make.]

If that is unprofessional then I am sorry.

And you know, we do want you as a member. I am sure you won't join but I am honest and do try to help even if my feeble attempts upset you :-(
mmamamel
QUOTE (momofbug @ Apr 10 2004, 11:04 AM)
QUOTE (teagansmama @ Apr 10 2004, 12:41 AM)
So now the question is...is the site coming back with a new owner?  Or is it just dead?

I doubt that we will ever see that site running again. I checked on whois and the site is still registered to Jamie. It has not changed names there. And you all are right. This totally stinks. I, too finally had my first REAL downline. Over 620 total and she owed me over $100.

But, on a lighter note. I want to thank the WM of Mystic-Ice-Mails for all of her help. When I explained what had happened, she generously offered to try and find out what happened. Which she did! Thank you Nicole! I know I have already told you this, but I don't think it can be said enough!! It is wonderful belonging to your site. This industry needs alot more honest WM's like you. Not saying that there are not honest WM's out there, because I know there are. But, with the handful of bad ones, it can make you leary of joining new sites.

biggrin.gif

I was a member under you for a couple of weeks, just didn't trust the prices of the ads and the site being around for payout. I do remember her sending an email that she intends to be around for a long time. Hopefully no PO's will pay her when she reaches payout and see how it feels.
Sorry you lost your money momofbug and anyone else who did.
Trench
mad.gif Hi Wendy and all the rest of members from Jamies magic email,
that's not so magic is like they try to sound.I had 56 dollars in mi account and a downline 34 good working members in first level and a 65 in second level.I try to loggin every day on every site that I'm member of,and Jamies was my second best programin my own top 15.Now they're dissapperead like snow in the sun,first there was something with they're bandwidth,and since yesterday is they're account suspended.
That means that we all are lost our money and refs,AGAIN SCAMMED BY A PTR!!!
Every PTR owner is always busy with cheatlinks and threats when you have 2 accounts they gonna delete you,but the most ptr owners are the biggest cheaters.

JAMIE,WHEN YOU READ THIS,WHY DO YOU LET YOUR MEMBERS DOWN!!!!
I hope that they are coming back,without a loss off our money or downline,but
in ptr country there is no hope with scamartists like jamies and many many others.


Greetz to all from Antwerp - Belgium

TRENCH
freebiesite
QUOTE (Mystic-Ice-Mails @ Apr 11 2004, 07:13 AM)


If that is unprofessional then I am sorry.

And you know, we do want you as a member. I am sure you won't join but I am honest and do try to help even if my feeble attempts upset you :-(


I think you really need to re read my original post...I never wished you bad with your own existing site....in fact I wish you well..

but I do ....as a matter of priniciple....dislike the takeover of debtridden sites....it stinks..and if anyone has a head for business they mostly likely can understand and agree with me...

sooo....I do maintain that I hope "taken over" sites be just left to die off...dont take them over...it is nutty and never seems to work....

you may mean well, but trust me if you read the outcomes of other wm who took over sites it is not a pretty picture...there is just no way you can overcome the amount of debt a site like this would have...none of the takeovers really seem to work, some mean well and fail, and some just are there to take over the site and milk it then sell it or close it or make it "ads only"...

soo....please do re read my original post, thanks, and also read some of the "sagas" of traded off debt ridden sites...thanks...cheri smile.gif

ps...good luck with YOUR own site!

kglaser
I had a friend of mine PM me a few weeks ago asking my opinion on a couple of sites, one of them being Jamies...I looked at the site, and the ad prices, and told him I thought it didn't look sustainable with $5 signup bonus and what the ad prices were.
littleheaven
Wow...............

I just came in here to look for a Jamie update after being gone over the weekend, and I am in shock, and very disappointed ... after all I just read sad.gif

I'm new to PTRs (I've been on a couple for 2 months almost, Jamies only a couple weeks max before the site shut down), Jamies was the 4th I joined, and I only have $7.00 self earnings- BUT I had 12 or 13 referrals (don't even remember my total earnings), it was the only site I advertised, the only site I was very very confident about, even though I wasn't on long and I'm sure I'm not nearly as upset as those of you who had a lot of earnings there.
I'm upset about Jamies b/c I really thought she was the real thing- and I adored the site, and reading all of these things is a bummer...

I do wish that Jamie would respond to this thread to stop the gossip and explain a little bit... I can't stand reading all the "Jamie bashing" when she's not here to defend herself.
So Jamie,,,,
PLEASE tell us whats up ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

sad.gif

I would think that a PTR that advances in members and reputation so quickly would be very beneficial for a WM to keep ... but what do I know? I assume that a lot of people donated - given how popular that site became so quickly.
But I really don't know anything about PTRs/Earnings/Debts, etc.. ohmy.gif

Still Bummed~

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

lh
Mystic-Ice-Mails
QUOTE (freebiesite @ Apr 11 2004, 08:15 PM)
Also quoting Trench:
Every PTR owner is always busy with cheatlinks and threats when you have 2 accounts they gonna delete you,but the most ptr owners are the biggest cheaters.


Quoting Freebiesite: I think you really need to re read my original post...I never wished you bad with your own existing site....in fact I wish you well..

but I do ....as a matter of priniciple....dislike the takeover of debtridden sites....it stinks..and if anyone has a head for business they mostly likely can understand and agree with me...

sooo....I do maintain that I hope "taken over" sites be just left to die off...dont take them over...it is nutty and never seems to work....

you may mean well, but trust me if you read the outcomes of other wm who took over sites it is not a pretty picture...there is just no way you can overcome the amount of debt a site like this would have...none of the takeovers really seem to work, some mean well and fail, and some just are there to take over the site and milk it then sell it or close it or make it "ads only"...

soo....please do re read my original post, thanks, and also read some of the "sagas" of traded off debt ridden sites...thanks...cheri smile.gif

ps...good luck with YOUR own site!

To Trench: That is really crappy of you to say. ALL WM's are NOT CHEATERS. Just because some are does not mean we all are.

To Freebiesite: Thank You and I do see where you are coming from. :-) Sometimes I do things before thinking it through.. not always but once in a blue moon lol
Thats what happens when I am to nice :-)
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