I think this one's dying.
Edited to add : oops, I meant to post this in general discussion.
Full Version: 10to25
I've noticed 10to25 has been sending less and less e-mails lately...and today, no e-mails at all.
I think this one's dying.
Edited to add : oops, I meant to post this in general discussion.
I think this one's dying.
Edited to add : oops, I meant to post this in general discussion.
This is i recieve yesterday
03/23/2004 14:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 11:14 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 05:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 11:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:24 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:14 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:14 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:24 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:14 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:24 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:14 25c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:24 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:24 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 05:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:14 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 05:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 14:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 11:14 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 05:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 11:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:24 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:14 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 10:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:14 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:24 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:14 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 07:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:24 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:14 25c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 09:04 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:34 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 08:24 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:24 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 05:54 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 06:14 10c SOLO EMAIL
03/23/2004 05:44 10c SOLO EMAIL
| QUOTE (dahniella @ Mar 25 2004, 01:34 AM) |
| This is i recieve yesterday 03/23/2004 14:54 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 11:14 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 05:34 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 11:04 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 10:54 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 10:44 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 10:34 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 10:24 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 10:14 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 06:34 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 10:04 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 06:04 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 08:14 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 08:04 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 07:54 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 07:44 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 07:34 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 07:24 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 07:14 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 07:04 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 06:54 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 06:44 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 09:54 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 09:44 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 09:34 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 09:24 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 09:14 25c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 09:04 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 08:54 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 08:44 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 08:34 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 08:24 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 06:24 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 05:54 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 06:14 10c SOLO EMAIL 03/23/2004 05:44 10c SOLO EMAIL |
wow, i def. didn't get those
...i think i recall getting a few yesterday, but none today. did you get any today?
well if it is any comfort, I also didnt get anything from 10to25 today...
but i usually get emails from them like every 2 days, so maybe tomorrow?
ps: i surely HOPE they are not dying, cuz i am working on a nice sum of money there
but i usually get emails from them like every 2 days, so maybe tomorrow?
ps: i surely HOPE they are not dying, cuz i am working on a nice sum of money there
I'm not a member...but what is your email provider? If I was you I would go onsite and see if you have emails in your inbox...if you do then your email provider is bouncing emails.
if no emails in your inbox on the site...then I'd be checking to see if you have your intrest boxes checked off...excluding the "cheat" boxes and "search" box if you can't search. otherwise click them ...then you should be getting emails.
make sure your info isn't messed up cause I know that can affect sending emails too.
Just some small suggestions for ya
if no emails in your inbox on the site...then I'd be checking to see if you have your intrest boxes checked off...excluding the "cheat" boxes and "search" box if you can't search. otherwise click them ...then you should be getting emails.
make sure your info isn't messed up cause I know that can affect sending emails too.
Just some small suggestions for ya
| QUOTE (AvaAdore @ Mar 25 2004, 04:55 PM) |
| well if it is any comfort, I also didnt get anything from 10to25 today... but i usually get emails from them like every 2 days, so maybe tomorrow? ps: i surely HOPE they are not dying, cuz i am working on a nice sum of money there |
me too....
As said before, maybe today?
I haven't seen anything posted to the onsite Inbox since March 23rd. I have all interests checked (there are no Search or Cheat boxes here). Vacation mode is not set and I have my mail sent there only so no bouncing, either.
It does seem that the recent rash of emails were responses to a recent ad sale (I bought one myself). Maybe they just ran out...
Ah, speculation...could go on and on and on....
...it's only been a couple of day...actually I belong to so many sites that I enjoy the occassional break!
I haven't seen anything posted to the onsite Inbox since March 23rd. I have all interests checked (there are no Search or Cheat boxes here). Vacation mode is not set and I have my mail sent there only so no bouncing, either.
It does seem that the recent rash of emails were responses to a recent ad sale (I bought one myself). Maybe they just ran out...
Ah, speculation...could go on and on and on....
...it's only been a couple of day...actually I belong to so many sites that I enjoy the occassional break!
| QUOTE (dzschau @ Mar 25 2004, 04:59 PM) |
| I'm not a member...but what is your email provider? If I was you I would go onsite and see if you have emails in your inbox...if you do then your email provider is bouncing emails. if no emails in your inbox on the site...then I'd be checking to see if you have your intrest boxes checked off...excluding the "cheat" boxes and "search" box if you can't search. otherwise click them ...then you should be getting emails. make sure your info isn't messed up cause I know that can affect sending emails too. Just some small suggestions for ya |
I made everything right, but still can't receive any emails...
serious question here: How do any of you honestly think the owner of this program can possibly ever pay you?
On 3/23 alone, 32 10c/all ads were sent out. If each only has a click-thru rate of 50%, each ad would still cost the program $571.40/per ad! $571.40 x 32 ads = total cost to program w/only 50% click thru of $18,284.80.
The amt charged for those 32 ads was 32 x $5.95 = $190.40!
so...
$18,284.80 (cost if only half the members click)
- 190.40 (amt. taken in for all 32 ads)
____________
$18,094.40 -- debt accrued on 3/23 alone if and only if the click thru rate is 50%
If the click-thru is better than 50% --- then the debt accrued on one single day is even higher.
These are frightening numbers folks -- and just think, this is JUST ONE DAY!!!
Have you even realized that this program had a debt of over $100,000 from sign-up bonuses alone??? That's a minimum of over $120,000 debt from bonuses and one day's worth of emails alone!
Seriously, would someone honestly explain to me where you think the money is going to come from to ever pay you or anyone else?
I don't understand what you're thinking here so if someone could please explain it, I would be very grateful.
edited to add: Be happy for each day that passes with no mail since that is a day when the site debt doesn't skyrocket further.
On 3/23 alone, 32 10c/all ads were sent out. If each only has a click-thru rate of 50%, each ad would still cost the program $571.40/per ad! $571.40 x 32 ads = total cost to program w/only 50% click thru of $18,284.80.
The amt charged for those 32 ads was 32 x $5.95 = $190.40!
so...
$18,284.80 (cost if only half the members click)
- 190.40 (amt. taken in for all 32 ads)
____________
$18,094.40 -- debt accrued on 3/23 alone if and only if the click thru rate is 50%
If the click-thru is better than 50% --- then the debt accrued on one single day is even higher.
These are frightening numbers folks -- and just think, this is JUST ONE DAY!!!
Have you even realized that this program had a debt of over $100,000 from sign-up bonuses alone??? That's a minimum of over $120,000 debt from bonuses and one day's worth of emails alone!
Seriously, would someone honestly explain to me where you think the money is going to come from to ever pay you or anyone else?
I don't understand what you're thinking here so if someone could please explain it, I would be very grateful.
edited to add: Be happy for each day that passes with no mail since that is a day when the site debt doesn't skyrocket further.
It is the second day with no emails
2 days ago I only got one
And it can't be because he has none to send out as I redeemed for email ad and it has yet to go out
2 days ago I only got one
And it can't be because he has none to send out as I redeemed for email ad and it has yet to go out
When I hear "10-cent e.mails", my first impulse is to run far, far away. I can't see this one lasting long.
i was wondering about this ptr myself, wasnt getting much, today i just checked and got a whooping 15 emails hopefully things will change
hopefully things will change
| QUOTE (nyc11726 @ Mar 25 2004, 07:21 PM) |
| i was wondering about this ptr myself, wasnt getting much, today i just checked and got a whooping 15 emails hopefully things will change |
Oh darn, only 15? Gee, that's only another $9-10,000 that they went in the hole today -- unless of course any of those mails were for more than 10 cents, in which case they sunk even further.
What are you guys thinking? Do you seriously believe you are going to be paid? If so........How????? (and don't say the owner has extra sources of revenue or anything like that --- unless you honestly think you can make thousands of dollars everyday from a couple of search engines, that is)
Site is down now
I have 32 emails from them today...................
that's gonna take a while to get through
Did the rest of you get thir emails for the day?
(seems they DO send out emails only every 2 days....... at least to me....)
that's gonna take a while to get through
Did the rest of you get thir emails for the day?
(seems they DO send out emails only every 2 days....... at least to me....)
You guys sign up for these programs because of the high links, a promise of 170 paid emails in the first week, then nothing!
Then you come here and complain.
Do us all a favour - complain somewhere else, you joined the programs, your problem, not ours!
Or try joining some decent programs.
Then you come here and complain.
Do us all a favour - complain somewhere else, you joined the programs, your problem, not ours!
Or try joining some decent programs.
Well Lil Crusader do you have personal experience with 10-25 ?? And if you are so up with these sites then maybe you could enlighten us to the good PTR/PTC sites to join thank you ! This way we wont lose our money and will get paid ..
| QUOTE (rownerau @ Mar 26 2004, 08:57 AM) |
| Well Lil Crusader do you have personal experience with 10-25 ?? And if you are so up with these sites then maybe you could enlighten us to the good PTR/PTC sites to join thank you ! This way we wont lose our money and will get paid .. |
That's easy --- just stick with the lower payout/lower email value sites that have little or no sign-up bonus. They are the only ones that are realistic and the only ones where there is a reasonable amount of security.
These flash and dash programs with the 10+ cent emails, cashout levels of $100 or more, and $10 bonuses cannot possibly survive long enough for anyone but a few select members with huge downlines to ever get paid. Like I posted earlier, 10 to 25 accrued a site debt of over $100,000 simply from sign-up bonuses alone -- that doesn't even include the massive losses being taken on every single one of those 10 cent solo mails so many people are drooling over.
And yes, I do have experience with them....I joined so that I could see what kind of mails they sent out and with what frequency. That's how I knew they sent out 32 10 cent mails in a single day earlier this week --- 32 mails that amassed additional site debt of nearly $20,000 in a single day (if they only had a 50% click-thru rate)!!!
I've asked several people if they could tell me how they think the owner of this program could possibly have the funds available to cover such a debt - one that increases with every single email they send out......So far no one has been able to answer that question.
That's the whole problem in a nutshell --- they can't answer because there is no answer. But even this fact isn't enough to keep thousands and thousands and thousands of people with $$$$ in their eyes from joining and wasting their time by clicking on emails they will never be paid for.
Your earnings may look impressive - but they're worthless until you've actually got that money in your hands. And with programs like this one, I can pretty much guarantee that the money will never be in your hands.
The little guys like I mentioned earlier are being hit hard right now by these ridiculous sites and their '10 cent/all for only $1.00'-type rates, but they're strong; and as people gradually figure out this con game that's going on in the PTR industry right now and begin turning their backs on the owners who have no intention of being around long enough to have to worry about actually paying anyone, they are returning to the programs that are really what PTR is all about.
I hope you'll be one of those who will turn your back on these owners who are the true scammers in this business right now.
well, yeah, the site is gone now.vanished. if only it would come back id quickly redeem for ads and run the ###### away.
personally I like the site...as for how will I get paid, well who knows to be honest. I can hope though, just like with ALL the other ptrs. There are a minimal Ive been paid from, others Im still waiting for....its all a risk, and well who evers a member im sure realizes, cant blame us for trying just like with all other ptrs right
in response to earners post, not all of us complain, just the ones who feel the need to vent their frustrations out, the ones who cheat, violate terms, etc....whether i get paid or not, well I really don't care, I mean this is ptr, not brain science, its all about risk and gamble. I can hope I get paid, but i mean as for me, Im honest in what i do with ptrs, i abide by rules and its simple for me, i dont raise a stink i just quit if i have a problem, and i know for me I wont have a problem, because i do nothing wrong (yet, lol) Ok maybe in future something will happen, maybe Ill click a cheat link on accident or something, but to me why bother even posting that, it would be my fault, I recognize that, i just dont think all others do, that do complain like i said its just a PTR, i don't revolve my life around it, lifes to short to worry so much about ptr life, especially when theres so much more out there
in response to earners post, not all of us complain, just the ones who feel the need to vent their frustrations out, the ones who cheat, violate terms, etc....whether i get paid or not, well I really don't care, I mean this is ptr, not brain science, its all about risk and gamble. I can hope I get paid, but i mean as for me, Im honest in what i do with ptrs, i abide by rules and its simple for me, i dont raise a stink i just quit if i have a problem, and i know for me I wont have a problem, because i do nothing wrong (yet, lol) Ok maybe in future something will happen, maybe Ill click a cheat link on accident or something, but to me why bother even posting that, it would be my fault, I recognize that, i just dont think all others do, that do complain like i said its just a PTR, i don't revolve my life around it, lifes to short to worry so much about ptr life, especially when theres so much more out there
| QUOTE (sadeyedboy @ Mar 26 2004, 11:16 AM) |
| well, yeah, the site is gone now.vanished. if only it would come back id quickly redeem for ads and run the ###### away. |
ive been on this site all day, has been working fine for me
I think you must be the only one. For the last 24 hours, this is what I get:
The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.
The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.
i suppose so, im really surprised, I just signed off and on again with no problems...is that possible for something like that to happen?
| QUOTE (firehouse1996 @ Mar 27 2004, 02:07 AM) |
| i suppose so, im really surprised, I just signed off and on again with no problems...is that possible for something like that to happen? |
I cannot log into 10to25. Neither to seacashmail.....weired
I have had distrust of 10to25....
the value of mails is to high for the value of adversiting
the value of mails is to high for the value of adversiting
I found out how to get in.....the site isn't down and you'll get in by doing this:
1. Delete cookies (or at least the cookie set for 10to25.com)
2. This will allow you to reach the login page where you need to FIRST uncheck
the second box (the one about PHP sessions)
3. Enter your login information and you should be in.
1. Delete cookies (or at least the cookie set for 10to25.com)
2. This will allow you to reach the login page where you need to FIRST uncheck
the second box (the one about PHP sessions)
3. Enter your login information and you should be in.
| QUOTE (the lil crusader @ Mar 27 2004, 07:28 AM) |
| I found out how to get in.....the site isn't down and you'll get in by doing this: 1. Delete cookies (or at least the cookie set for 10to25.com) 2. This will allow you to reach the login page where you need to FIRST uncheck the second box (the one about PHP sessions) 3. Enter your login information and you should be in. |
I already tried that, didn't work
Just tried it and it works now. I see 25 emails in my inbox, but no stats on the ad I bought 3 days ago.
| QUOTE (elianevm @ Mar 26 2004, 03:04 PM) |
| I have had distrust of 10to25.... the value of mails is to high for the value of adversiting |
BINGO.
Advertising Packages
A Paid-eMail to Members of our Program.
All of the people who are receiving the e-mail have all requested it, thus giving you, the advertiser, a great selection of interested viewers.
10c email to All Members of Our Program - $5.95
15c email to All Members of Our Program - $8.95
20c email to All Members of Our Program - $11.95
25c email to All Members of Our Program - $14.95
Yet to redeem is:
10c solo email to all
Spend Cash $ 30
15c solo email to all
Spend Cash $ 45
20c solo email to all
Spend Cash $ 60
25c solo email to all
Spend Cash $ 75
A Paid-eMail to Members of our Program.
All of the people who are receiving the e-mail have all requested it, thus giving you, the advertiser, a great selection of interested viewers.
10c email to All Members of Our Program - $5.95
15c email to All Members of Our Program - $8.95
20c email to All Members of Our Program - $11.95
25c email to All Members of Our Program - $14.95
Yet to redeem is:
10c solo email to all
Spend Cash $ 30
15c solo email to all
Spend Cash $ 45
20c solo email to all
Spend Cash $ 60
25c solo email to all
Spend Cash $ 75
| QUOTE (Tigress8u @ Mar 26 2004, 04:33 PM) |
| Advertising Packages A Paid-eMail to Members of our Program. All of the people who are receiving the e-mail have all requested it, thus giving you, the advertiser, a great selection of interested viewers. 10c email to All Members of Our Program - $5.95 15c email to All Members of Our Program - $8.95 20c email to All Members of Our Program - $11.95 25c email to All Members of Our Program - $14.95 Yet to redeem is: 10c solo email to all Spend Cash $ 30 15c solo email to all Spend Cash $ 45 20c solo email to all Spend Cash $ 60 25c solo email to all Spend Cash $ 75 |
Wow...those are some big differences.
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