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wolffxfx
Hi Everyone,

Doug and Denise have been working hard trying to get all your accounts back in to the site. They now have a update to work with and are going to ask John to do it so nothing gets messed up. So Please check to make sure your account it back later on. I will try to keep you posted
the lil crusader
That is wonderful news!

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
rebel
Hello ever one john had email me today and we have talk and he said he would help us get these fix been talking to Denise for the last few days she has been a big help working hard with me with getting these updated so i will say thank you
Denise


Thank you biggrin.gif
Doug
tashgate
I'll be really happy to hear report from the deleted members that their accounts were restored.
priestes
This is wonderful news. Guess I will be eatting my words and clicking once members announce they have been reinstated.

Thank you Doug for listening to the members. I am sure they will be much more supportive for your goodwill gesture.

zach1845
great news
rebel is back smile.gif
poneyby
Great new
Shouldnt this be posted in the other folder though ?? lol
michaellaskey
QUOTE (tashgate @ Mar 21 2004, 01:06 PM)
I'll be really happy to hear report from the deleted members that their accounts were restored.

wink.gif Dont you worry, I will be one of the first in here singing my praises. I hope its pretty soon because this has been dragged out way too far.sad.gif

Anyhow, Thanks for the great news Doug laugh.gif
lalassunshine
tongue.gif can we all say heres mud in your face mr johnson tongue.gif
THANK YOU !!! Doug, Denise , AND John.
michaellaskey
QUOTE (lalassunshine @ Mar 21 2004, 01:54 PM)
tongue.gif can we all say heres mud in your face mr johnson tongue.gif
THANK YOU !!! Doug, Denise , AND John.

LOL, I will say it..But only if its not considered a PERSONAL ATTACK... LOL
rebel
hello all just got a email from john and these will be down in the next 12 hour he have it all fix


Thank you biggrin.gif
Doug
darkcloud
QUOTE (wolffxfx @ Mar 21 2004, 12:36 PM)
Doug and Denise have been working hard trying to get all your accounts back in to the site. They now have a update to work with and are going to ask John to do it so nothing gets messed up. So Please check to make sure your account it back later on. I will try to keep you posted

After the proof that was given about how Denise operates I can't believe any of you are staying. Personally I am deleting my account and they can have my $31.00 or so. I'll not have anything to do with that woman.

Darkcloud
debrina
QUOTE (darkcloud @ Mar 21 2004, 12:36 AM)
QUOTE (wolffxfx @ Mar 21 2004, 12:36 PM)
Doug and Denise have been working hard trying to get all your accounts back in to the site.  They now have a update to work with and are going to ask John to do it so nothing gets messed up.  So Please check to make sure your account it back later on.  I will try to keep you posted

After the proof that was given about how Denise operates I can't believe any of you are staying. Personally I am deleting my account and they can have my $31.00 or so. I'll not have anything to do with that woman.

Darkcloud

This is a shock to me to see such a thing. I am happy deleted members who may have possibly been deleted by accident will be reinstated, but to have Denise back in this after all she has done to people and now everyone is giving her praises --- very puzzling indeed that many of you were ticked when she left sites in debt, now you are thrilled with her...I am cancelling my account also. If it had of been just Doug, i would have stayed.

Debrina
zach1845
QUOTE (darkcloud @ Mar 21 2004, 02:36 PM)
QUOTE (wolffxfx @ Mar 21 2004, 12:36 PM)
Doug and Denise have been working hard trying to get all your accounts back in to the site.? They now have a update to work with and are going to ask John to do it so nothing gets messed up.? So Please check to make sure your account it back later on.? I will try to keep you posted

After the proof that was given about how Denise operates I can't believe any of you are staying. Personally I am deleting my account and they can have my $31.00 or so. I'll not have anything to do with that woman.

Darkcloud

why not give doug a chance huh.gif
darkcloud
QUOTE (zach1845 @ Mar 21 2004, 02:40 PM)
why not give doug a chance huh.gif

Yah and give the fox charge of the henhouse too. hehe Didn't you read what Denise was doing before?

Darkcloud
debrina
QUOTE (zach1845 @ Mar 21 2004, 12:40 AM)
QUOTE (darkcloud @ Mar 21 2004, 02:36 PM)
QUOTE (wolffxfx @ Mar 21 2004, 12:36 PM)
Doug and Denise have been working hard trying to get all your accounts back in to the site.? They now have a update to work with and are going to ask John to do it so nothing gets messed up.? So Please check to make sure your account it back later on.? I will try to keep you posted

After the proof that was given about how Denise operates I can't believe any of you are staying. Personally I am deleting my account and they can have my $31.00 or so. I'll not have anything to do with that woman.

Darkcloud

why not give doug a chance huh.gif

Doug is not the problem...oh, and I just went to delete my account...funny how it is already done for me...hmmm...makes me really think about who is running things.
skylark
After reading about what Denise did before, i will not have anything to do with a site that she has anything to do with. I hope they enjoy my 30.00, and it goes to pay someone that deserves it.
I could add a few Kiwi euphamisms to this but i wont ph34r.gif
rebel
ok let me just add these ok we have a lot of members that where delete and i have been working for the last 2 days to get to the bottom of these and that had to do with Denise and she is give me the help that i need to know about the site and about the member in here so she has left rebel-email for her resons and i doing what ever got to be done to keep these site open so if you want to quit that your problem and to send me a nasty email and you not even know me well
i leave it at that so if you quiting makes you feel better then do it but all i know is these site will go on with you or with out

Thankyou
Doug
Sublime
I hope they reduce the payout back to $50 for all of you.

I am not a member, but I was in absolute disdain when I saw that JJ had upped the payout shortly before he left. BUT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN THE PLAN ALL ALONG...................................Different people make different changes. Those same different people (big time oxymoron) benifit from it. It might have been set up that way from day one.

All of you that joined any of these Rebel sites really need to think before you join such "too good to be true" programs.

We all learn lessons from life, so I cannot condemn you for joining programs like this. I just hope you all learn from it.


Sublime
tashgate
Doug,

I don't think the members/ex-members have a problem with YOU, honestly. I think they're all pretty happy and grateful that you're coming in and trying to get the mess sorted out and do right by them. It's Denise's involvement that they're questioning and her methods that they're concerned about. There was some pretty heavy and nasty proof provided in another thread about Southern Belle that Debrina posted and it has people just a little nervous about having Denise involved in things now. If she's just helping you get the site up and running again from a technical aspect, then that might set some people's mind at ease. If she's going to be running things again in any way, then I think there are going to be more people bailing, which isn't anything to do with YOU. I guess folks are worried that you're going to learn some underhanded habits from her.
rebel
yes she's just helping me get the site up and running again from a technical aspect
and just telling me how ever thing i works i the admin area these one a little differnt then my other sites she is bean very help
full on these so i can get these matter to rest and lets get on with the site like i have
said rebel-email is a good site and i hated to see it go down

Thank you biggrin.gif
Doug
freebiesite
QUOTE (darkcloud @ Mar 21 2004, 12:44 AM)
QUOTE (zach1845 @ Mar 21 2004, 02:40 PM)
why not give doug a chance huh.gif

Yah and give the fox charge of the henhouse too. hehe Didn't you read what Denise was doing before?

Darkcloud


Really I am getting to the point where I think some of the people here are simply mascochists...like you enjoy being "hurt' or financial masochists..enjoy being ripped off..

hello....wake up....helloooooo...

this is the denise who left the sites in debt?? the one who whined about her blood pressure??

the one who we SEE PROOF IN AN IM...was playing funny funny with the database in regard to referrals..some "favored folks" were set to get 100x more refers from people who come to site with out a referral..she was obviously moving accounts around..settting up "dummy accounts"

use your brains....this is fraud..this is the worst of the worst...frankly the junk that has gone on between this rebel group is the prime candidate for a class action RICO LAWSUIT..which would give people 3x normal judgement and not let them protect any of their assets...tho I am not sure I would want their trailers LOL

this is insanity to say oh how wonderful....

look at what else has gone on around here....the sites going to ads only...nasty jeffery who then hot potatoed his site to another guy, more changes..
wake up and smell the septic tank...

whitewolf085
ph34r.gif hmmmmmmm. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Denise who trained Debrina in the admin area and Debrina was told to "not worry" about certain numbers and such? It's not like Denise has anything to lose by doing it again. unsure.gif Ugh, I think I give up!

~WW
vanderwerf11
lol freebs,

I truely hope this doug does not send an english test lmao. I thought denise left the site for illness or some such? good way to avoid the resposibilities lmao and doug i am sure you are getting some GREAT pointers on how the site works lololol

This just cracks me up

Ugly Bucket
debrina
QUOTE (tashgate @ Mar 21 2004, 08:26 AM)
Doug,

I don't think the members/ex-members have a problem with YOU, honestly. I think they're all pretty happy and grateful that you're coming in and trying to get the mess sorted out and do right by them. It's Denise's involvement that they're questioning and her methods that they're concerned about. There was some pretty heavy and nasty proof provided in another thread about Southern Belle that Debrina posted and it has people just a little nervous about having Denise involved in things now. If she's just helping you get the site up and running again from a technical aspect, then that might set some people's mind at ease. If she's going to be running things again in any way, then I think there are going to be more people bailing, which isn't anything to do with YOU. I guess folks are worried that you're going to learn some underhanded habits from her.

I am already not a part of that program as someone has deleted my account. I planned to delete anyhow, but that is not the point.

You do have a valid point here with why it is a problem to have Denise involved. Has anyone wondered what is she teaching/telling him about Admin area that was also a part of the deception when she ran the programs? Afterall, she is the one who told me many things that turned out to be a mess of cheating members.

Do you know that if she is a member of that database, she can have NO upline herself? Only the owner of a program should have no upline.

Does she have password access to help with setting things back to normal? Or is all of the help done by chat and telephone? If she has password, how do you keep track of what she has changed that will not be caught for several months?

I have been very blunt and honest about the schemes behind her tactics inthe forums so people would be aware of possibilities. I am still not convinced that even though it may be technical advice, that she is the right one to be helping with this. There are other WM's who have not cheated anyone who would have been willing to help.

Why go back to the original owner after all that has been said and done by her (which has been documented)? Is there a valid reason?

I wish Doug luck cause he is surely going to need it if all of the database falls apart later.

Debrina
michaellaskey
QUOTE (whitewolf085 @ Mar 21 2004, 11:01 PM)
ph34r.gif hmmmmmmm. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Denise who trained Debrina in the admin area and Debrina was told to "not worry" about certain numbers and such? It's not like Denise has anything to lose by doing it again. unsure.gif Ugh, I think I give up!

~WW

rolleyes.gif I think maybe my outlook is just a little bit different here. I mean everyone knows I had a decent amount of money in Rebel that I lost already right? unsure.gif So honestly I had already written this off, But Now Doug says that he IS going to restore these deleted accounts, So from my back yard I have nothing to lose, I in my eyes have lost this money already, So if I give Doug the chance to make this right, what would I be risking unsure.gif I can say it will be a good while before I ever supported or promoted Rebel, But thats nothing against Doug, Thats is just pure dis-trust for the WHOLE SITUATION.
michaellaskey
QUOTE (debrina @ Mar 21 2004, 11:08 PM)


Why go back to the original owner after all that has been said and done by her (which has been documented)? Is there a valid reason?


wink.gif That is a very good question, I think unsure.gif
whitewolf085
I think what you have to lose Michael, is your possible fuure earnings... AGAIN. I see your point, but why click all of those links when Denise has had her hand in the pot? All of this could fall apart in another month because of what was not disclosed.


~WW
priestes
QUOTE (debrina @ Mar 20 2004, 10:40 PM)
I am happy deleted members who may have possibly been deleted by accident will be reinstated,

Debrina

"Possibly"? "Deleted by Accident"? Debrina did you read the remarks Jefferery made in the other thread? He deleted members on purpose and gloated about it. There was no "Possibly" or "By Accident" it was intentional.

I am ready to wash my hands of the whole thing but since I have tried to give others a chance I guess I have "Stupid" on my forehead. I always try to gives others the benefit of the doubt before condemning them. Doug has tried to do right by the members. I actually feel sorry for him walking into this whole mess.....

rebel
i know what your saying but all i'm saying is that i took these site to save it
and i will do that, these is my site and i just need to know what was the deal with the members that where delete and you all don't no me and i pleave in paying members and make it a good site these is what the vote got so these will help
these is the only thing that i have change
and i'm working on lowering the payout back to where it was
Change to 2 cent to 10 Cent site with points for the non paid emails and it will turn into cash at the end of the month
i'm trying to get money back into these site as you know there was none but there will be i have a bulk advertiser and save some good cashlink the site will been run very well once ever thing is in place and ever one will make money and be paid
Thank you
Doug
freebiesite
QUOTE (rebel @ Mar 21 2004, 09:27 AM)
i know what your saying but all i'm saying is that i took these site to save it
and i will do that, these is my site and i just need to know what was the deal with the members that where delete and you all don't no me and i pleave in paying members and make it a good site these is what the vote got so these will help
these is the only thing that i have change
and i'm working on lowering the payout back to where it was
Change to 2 cent to 10 Cent site with points for the non paid emails and it will turn into cash at the end of the month
i'm trying to get money back into these site as you know there was none but there will be i have a bulk advertiser and save some good cashlink the site will been run very well once ever thing is in place and ever one will make money and be paid
Thank you
Doug


dOUG...where are you ?? Your english is a bit...odd....

also...think about martha stewart....her company is now trying to backpedal and distance themselves from her..

you should, at the very least, do the same with denise...her rep is shot...jeffery and his nonsense was the last straw for many also...

and why the urge to save this site?? If you are sooo bighearted isnt there some charity that needs you?? Homeless people, kids, animals?? Please...please dont play the "big hearted savior" role ok?? that really is sooo phoney LOL

also...maybe I am wrong...maybe you are this big hearted pup who just wants to give everyone a hug and a chance to get the money they worked for that denise had NO intention of paying...if so...just do the right thing there buddy...PAY EVERYONE NOW...THEN GIVE THEM THE OPTION OF STAYING OR GOING...

SOUND GOOD?? I THINK SO..

I am sure you have the money..right?? I mean...you wouldnt start a site without money wouldya huh??? also...think about this...taking over a site may well be a violation of the privacy act....you could get slammed for spam..

and think about this...you...yes YOU ...chose to take on a site that has such a bad rep that it well could be the first one to really face judical action...

how does conspiracy and racketeering sound to ya??? huggs and smooches...now...do the right thing...and pay people ok?? Just pay em off...put up or shut up...

wow...easy huh??
lalassunshine
debrina i think i missed the tread that had all the info about denise would you be so kind as to put the link here so i can find it


i hope Doug get this site back on track i got over $160 dollars in my acct. there is alot of people that have worked hard to build there acct up this high and said well i'll let it build i been payed once so i thrust it will be safe to wait thenget sold and to be just passed around like a ball ant cool. dry.gif just fix things and lets get the money rolling again dry.gif
unsure.gif thanks Doug for trying to get things done the right way unsure.gif
we all whinned and monned till he did something and it sad how now when he starts doing it we all start jumping off the boat blink.gif
mcf
I cannot believe the first few posts in this thread ohmy.gif
Wasn't the data "corrupted" ??
Why give Denise another chance to line her pockets.
I am speachless.
mcf
No way this guy's real name is Doug.

And BTW is Sailors Bubble related to this bunch ?


whitewolf085
mcf, the corrupted data was on SouthernBelle, the one Debrina took over. I know.... I can;t keep em straight anymore.

Doug, we know you're trying. We don't fault you for that. It's just the fact that you brought Denise back into the picture that makes things look a bit on the shady side. In case you haven't noticed, nobody trusts her since she started this mess to begin with. I think a lot of people are wondering (even though you seen nice and seem to be doing good) if you're not involved now. You know, make the site presentable again, people buy ads, you walk away with money, site gets abandoned or worse passed to someone else and it starts all over again. You're right, we don't know you. There are people willing to give you a chance.... involving Denise even at a technical level just looks plain bad.

~WW
freebiesite
QUOTE (lalassunshine @ Mar 21 2004, 09:39 AM)
debrina i think i missed the tread that had all the info about denise would you be so kind as to put the link here so i can find it


i hope Doug get this site back on track i got over $160 dollars in my acct. there is alot of people that have worked hard to build there acct up this high and said well i'll let it build i been payed once so i thrust it will be safe to wait thenget sold and to be just passed around like a ball ant cool. dry.gif just fix things and lets get the money rolling again dry.gif
unsure.gif thnaks Doug for trying to get things done the right way unsure.gif

LaLa it was in the thread about southernbelle and also I posted links to it in my thread about "the real scandal" etc haha

frankly I am sorry you have 160 tied up with these people...but I doubt you will see it...

doug seems to want to restore the site to its former "glory" high paying links etc...but how can he pay you?? why not ask him to pay you now/? Jeffry said the site was 80k in debt...we have seen all the bad doings of this gang...


I bet you will click and click and then when he owes you 200 he will close/transfer it or whatever..

also....while I understand you want your money...look at the way doug writes...he cant even write "everyday english"...where is he??? the very fact

JMO...the rebel gang has taken you for over 100 bucks which makes it a felony fraud...I would consider legal action..

and lets find out who doug is...and where he is???
mcf
Ooops sorry...too many rebel sites to keep track of. laugh.gif
rebel
well here it is i live in florida she live on the west cost here is a company i owen
http://www.panamacityhosting.com/

And thank you for the ones that are posting postive things

and my name is Doug
here is my email adress dougc3321@comcast.net

thank you
Doug
ktty
Rebel back biggrin.gif Good news!!!
freebiesite
QUOTE (rebel @ Mar 21 2004, 10:00 AM)
well here it is i live in florida she live on the west cost here is a company i owen
http://www.panamacityhosting.com/

And thank you for the ones that are posting postive things

and my name is Doug
here is my email adress dougc3321@comcast.net

thank you
Doug

Cool doug...I live in florida also...and hey guess what...we have some of the toughest laws on scams due to all the frauds that seem to prosper here...
scammers love sun and fun I guess smile.gif

our state has the agriculture and consumer affairs site that really is a big help...

sooo...I hope you are going to do the right thing..

glad to see you are in florida...but...what is YOUR native language?? thanks
vanderwerf11
lol here is a company I own

http://www.google.com

Oh I can smell that septic freebs *puke*

Ugly Bucket
lalassunshine
QUOTE (freebiesite @ Mar 21 2004, 10:57 AM)
QUOTE (lalassunshine @ Mar 21 2004, 09:39 AM)
debrina i think i missed the tread that had all the info about denise would you be so kind as to put the link here so i can find it


i hope Doug get this site back on track i got over $160 dollars in my acct. there is alot of people that have worked hard to build there acct up this high and said well i'll let it build i been payed once so i thrust it will be safe to wait thenget sold and  to be just passed around like a ball ant cool. dry.gif  just fix things and lets get the money rolling again dry.gif
unsure.gif thnaks Doug for trying to get things done the right way unsure.gif

LaLa it was in the thread about southernbelle and also I posted links to it in my thread about "the real scandal" etc haha

frankly I am sorry you have 160 tied up with these people...but I doubt you will see it...

doug seems to want to restore the site to its former "glory" high paying links etc...but how can he pay you?? why not ask him to pay you now/? Jeffry said the site was 80k in debt...we have seen all the bad doings of this gang...


I bet you will click and click and then when he owes you 200 he will close/transfer it or whatever..

also....while I understand you want your money...look at the way doug writes...he cant even write "everyday english"...where is he??? the very fact

JMO...the rebel gang has taken you for over 100 bucks which makes it a felony fraud...I would consider legal action..

and lets find out who doug is...and where he is???

i did ask to get payed right before denise walked out and again when jeffy boy ad the site and now i guess i just have to set and wait and hope and PRAY that this time i will get my money if not well i've leard a good listen
chitchatter
Hi!
I'd like to put my 2 cents worth in. All of the Rebel Crew was nothing but scams and rip offs period! When Denise had Revolution it was a script problem she claimed then she did not even have the data base as she told me to email her with what I earned and she add it to Rebel. She told me she started Rebel because of script problem with Revolution. Yeah right! Then she started all the others when she couldn't even run one of them right. Then their was Bruce that ran Heavy Metal which was also tied into Denise. He suddenly sent email that he just couldn't take it anymore, too much stress and he was single father, had regular job etc. and was putting site up for sale but nothing would change. Then next comes email saying Ted from Lone Wolf was taking over. Suddenly Ted tells members Bruce has a sick wife and needs our prayers??? Hmmmm. How odd as Bruce just told us he was single father??? I wrote Ted asking him about that but got no reply. Then we all get email saying WM is someone named Justin??? Payout increased to 100.00 and money taken away from your accounts.
They are getting a complaint to the FTC from me. I deleted my accounts as I will be darned if they make another penny off me.
Funny how a lot of these WM claim "oh I am so sick" when they run into problems or think they might actually need to pay people out.
Thanks for your time
rebel
ok i will say it agin jeff and Denise don't owen these site now i do and thing will
run differnt and for the better so these is all got to say

thank you biggrin.gif
Doug
michaellaskey
I have my acct back... Now can I get Paid??? Thanks Doug!!
pepwolf
Thank you very much this will get you some great respect for putting everyones accounts back. My downline is back where it was before that other goof took it and try to distroy it.
I would just like to say thanks to all of you.
the lil crusader
Isn't it kind of silly to keep making post after post about this RICO thingy and fraud and yada yada yada at this point?

Nobody knows if they've lost money right now so what is there to report?

Shouldn't talk of that sort of thing be saved until there is actually something valid to go on? Do you honestly think any kind of agency is going to pay attention to anybody who thinks maybe they might lose money someday because maybe somebody might do something underhanded sometime?

Anyone who goes running off prematurely before they have some concrete evidence is only going to potentially mess things up for everybody else in the future. Unless I've missed something major, at this point there is not a shred of proof that anything underhanded is currently going on within the Rebel program. Right now it's all supposition/speculation based on this Denise person's involvement in helping the new owner restore wrongfully deleted accounts. Yes, she has been shown to be lacking in scruples in her suggestions to Debrina, BUT...considering the fact that this was made public knowledge, it's highly doubtful she would attempt/suggest doing anything like it with this program. Investigations and ultimately legal actions are NOT based on supposition or speculation. They generally require a little extra something called PROOF!!!!

So save the big talk until it's appropriate. It's just ridiculous right now. Tomorrow may be another story. But at this point in time, there is absolutely nothing to base all this RICO talk on - and actually, there probably never will be because from what I understand of RICO, it involves intent to defraud and I don't think you've got a clue how hard it is to prove something like that.

Let's watch and see what happens.
biidaaban
my account was restored, minus $24.00 needless to say i unsubbed again
lalassunshine
unsure.gif hey Doug do we have to cash out again or not unsure.gif
rebel
you need to send it to me so i will have please

Thank you smile.gif
Doug
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