2 http://tigersads.com 4501 2531 56.23% 2004-01-07 17:43:28

last click on my banner was two months ago.

3 http://earn4ads.com 295 273 92.54% 2004-02-01 01:59:53

last click was 1and 1/2 month ago.

If any of you WMs read this feel free to PM and/or refund me my money.
Its nice to have a tracker on when and from where you recieve clicks isnt it...

Hi,

What value and how much did you pay for your PTC at Earn4Ads?

Just to add - I did not, and could not, guarantee any amount of clicks.

Cat.

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...opic=133427&hl=

for $4 I expect a lot more than 273 clicks.

Especially from an ads only progam.

Have to add:

Tigerads was not a permanent banner purchase, but a purchase for 10.000 clicks.

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...opic=133449&hl=
tigerads ptc... 10.000 of them


Heres what i got:

4501

My TigersAds banner has been clicked 587 times so far.

Hi,

Actually, how many VIEWS have you had on your Permanent Banner?

The idea behind a Permanent Banner - to me at least, is so that the EXPOSURE OF THE SITE you are promoting is there.

Now, if you BOUGHT PERMANENT CLICKS then 6 weeks between clicks might be another story. It depends on WHAT you actually bought, though.


I think you got a good deal for $4 if you consider all the exposure you received, just not what YOU expected.

Just my 2 cents worth here from one who LOVES permanent banner deals.

Maybe you should try not to interfere in matters you know nothing of or you should read the added links.

Its PTC banners. I didnt buy banner impressions. I never do and never will.

You are the one who put permanent banners at the top of your post when people see this they think of Banner impressions

Thats up to you to be a savvy buyer/advertiser and research before you invest your money. Its no one elses fault, and you don't really deserve to be refunded.

at tigers I have:
10000 5 cent (and the BOTTOM of the many pages of PTCs) 1285 clicks
5000 10 cent (way close to the bottom, lol) 2617
5000 (ones I won for the click contest last month, not been up 2 weeks yet) 493

My SAS stats are in my daughter's account (didn't have one when I bough that PTC) so I'm not sure how many but I do know that when Tigers was down for Those few days my SAS hits went from over 400 a day to 35

Now you purchased your Tiger one on the 1st of Feb. Since then they were down for a few days because of a misunderstanding with the host, and then the site went down when the host had to change servers for all those sites.

Now it shows that your ad hasn't been clicked on since


2 http://tigersads.com 4501 2531 56.23% 2004-01-07 17:43:28
but the link you posted shows you only purchased it on Feb 1.

I think there is something very wrong with your tracking!


Also, 5 cents links are on page....35 or 40 of the PTCs so you aren't likely to get as many hits. THAT problem could have been solved by researching how many pages of PTC the site has and where a 5 cent y to land.

I do deserve to be refunded.
The ad price suddenly changed drasticly within both programs right after I had bought the ads.

Tigerads changed their prices from 5 to 15 cents a click, to up to 50 cents a click. That leaves my banner at the very bottom never beign clicked even though what I bought was a banner with high exposure and many clicks.
The changing of their values made my banner obsolete in most members eyes. They wouldnt get any real credit for pressing it. If tigerads had changed the value of my link to still represent what I had paid for, there wouldnt be any problem at all.

The very same thing happend with earn4ads. Except I never did get many hits from them at all. They changed very fast after I bought this banner.


For you guys making assumptions.... Why do you persist to comment thread/posts without reading up on what is going on. Its getting a little tiresome to see people who comment everything but never bother to actually try to read what has already been debated/stated/or referred to.


In the Tigerads case, I bought 10.000 hits... I will never recieve this unless they change the value of my link. This is a fradulent sale in my eyes. They didnt notify me that they were about to change their values, and I have had other problems with them as well. I also bought PTSUs from them, and they are also not worth anything anymore. All because they changed the values of new advertisement but didnt care to make sure that older advertisement should be honored.

So stating that I should not be refunded only shows your ingorance to how business is being run. If I bought real life advertisement. A third of a page in a newspaper for half a year, sent on a dayly basis. I would not accept anything else but a refund if they suddenly after a week changes rules. They suddenly only send the newspaper once every 14 days. My ad has changed into a three lines ad on the orbituary page. Now this is fradulent behavior. And this is what has happend. The ad that I actually did research before buying suddenly fell in value (for the members, not actually loosing link value).
For gods sake this is not the stock market. I buy exposure. I do not buy a value of a link, and if you cannot present the exposure I bought, you have to either repay me, or change my ad to represent the new values in the program.

Buddah, I sold you a permanent banner, which will remain there permanently. I have thought very hard about this, but I did not break my agreement with you.

I don't like the way you implied the values of my PTC's changed soon after you bought yours - you said this as if you thought it was done on purpose, which it was not. I'm sorry if you didn't mean this, and it just didn't come across right when I was reading it.

I am currently having problems with my host, which I've spent a night and a day trying to sort out .... when it is sorted out, I have a lot of new things coming up at Earn4Ads which should dramatically increase the click-through rate, and I hope then you will be happier.

Thanks for reading,

Cat.

It was not meant to be read as the prices where increased because someone finally bought an ad.

But I was not notified that you were going to increase values when I bought the ad. And considering that only happend a few days after I bought the ad, I have to suppose that you already knew of this before you sold me the ad.
That is unacceptable.

I hope that there will be some change in the clickthrough rate, as this is basicly what I have been requesting.

Thanks for answering boons.

To be 100% honest with you, buddah, I didn't plan to increase PTC's in advance, but in hindsite, perhaps I should have contacted you to let you know as soon as I sold higher value links. For this, I apologise.

Give me a week or so to try and sort out this problem with my host (at the moment I can't send any emails )and launch my click contests etc. and I hope you will see a better click-through rate

All the best,

Cat.

Well unless Cat absolutely promised a certain number of clicks, then she doesn't have to refund your money

I look forward to that then 8)

Thanks again.

I personally thinks its funny that if you were tracking you waited 2 months to complain and if you dont like comments that go against you buddah then dont post you could have taken it up with the webmasters before bringing it here.

You post here you will get replied to like it or not - and here is a rule for you before you tell people to mind their own business - dont say anything you would think twice about saying to people's faces.

I dont mind telling you that you answer to things you dont know jack about.
Admit it... you didnt read either one of the links provided. So you were in no way in any position to make a comment like you did.

Its called, base of knowledge. Which you didnt posses in this perticular case.

Waiting two months is actually only because I have probably hundreds of ads running. If I had to check up on every single one of them I wouldnt have time for anything else. Besides if I complained after a week, the program owners would get very mad at me for complaining without having a case.

You see its common curtesy to at least give them the chance to change the problem for something better on their own.

If I presented you with a tracking of a banner ad that hadnt been clicked for 14 days you would laugh me in my face and tell me thats just life... not every banner gets clicked every day.... But now its two months so I have a real...note real... complaint. I dont complain about petty little things like I cannot log into my account today... I cannot see my ad stats.... why doesnt my signupbonus count as personal earnings... my inbox is gone... I dont recieve mails...
Now that is complaints that others make....
I made a complaint because something I bought and paid for wasnt delivered.

Edited to add: I never write anything that I cannot tell personally. eye to eye.
Im not hiding behind my screen. I confront the problems that arise headon.

You chose not to address my point about how come your STATS show clicks PRIOR to your purchasing the PTCs.

It implies that the "facts" you want us all to read are inaccurate.

If the date is wrong, what makes the click amounts correct? Perhaps they are understated and you've received more.


And keep up the polite repartee...It's sure to convince people that you are right!

Easy.. the site didnt have 50 cent links when I made the purchase.

By using the tracking devise its very easy to see that I have not recieved the hits.
Theres nothing wrong with the tracking as you can see. The adress is correct.

The DATE is incorrect...

it says you haven't received a click since 2004-01-07 which is January 7 but you only purchased the PTC on Feb 1.

How can you have clicks from before it was bought?

And if the date is wrong, what makes the amount of clicks correct?

You paid $3 for those 5cent clicks. Offer to pay $3 more and i'm sure they will upit to 10 cents.

You want a 50 cent link then you should be willing to pay... $27 more.

Are you not aware that I might have bought ads prior to the 10.000 clicks I bought???

It just goes to show that I have not recieved any hits.
Prior stats are from an email I ran at their site for the excact same amount. 5 cents. But also shows that I am using the correct adress to track stats from Tigerads.

And no. I am not supposed to pay more to get my ad upgraded. I was lied to by the WM. I bought an ad that was a third worth of their highest value click. Now its only worth a tenth. Taking into mind that this is an ads only program, this is the only correct way to calculate the click value. You cannot calculate it from the exact value of the link as that has no meaning in the program. They dont get into debt because they upgrade my ad. On the other hand they would be honoring the deal that I paid for. Upgrading it to the value I bought. AKA a third of the highest value click. I didnt freakn buy a 5 cent ad. I only paid for it because I knew that at this value rate I would get clicks.