Make all payments which are due --------------- or we should boycott TDGP,

Heavy-Metal & Shanes then--------------------------------------

Don't buy and click any ads at TDGP, Heavy-Metal & Shanes .

Rubbish companies ------------- Are we beggary to need your lower-

priced ad ???

I believe shane's has a payout of $15 again

You should not tlak of boycott of a good program such as totally-duh.Not happy get out..The rest of us believe in them....A run of bad luck has cause problems.
They have paid.....And they will try hard to find a way to go back to paying...
Debbie

What 's meant by a good program ????

The payout for TDGP is $3 only and she makes us waiting for more than 3 months

----- then telling you that you can only redeem for ads.

Does the debt appear suddenly yesterday or last week ??

And yet once again we have people defending and "believing" in sites.
A site tens of thousands of dollars in debt cannot pay you.

You might like clicking away for nothing. Most of us don't.

When you read the posts from these owners you realize exactly what they think of their members. They could care less if the members ever get paid as long as they do.

Boy even the worst sites have a little cheerleader LOL>> sad..

yes that rebel crew really is the pits..
and now debrina who took over their southernbelle site claims it is 38K in debt..and guess what..

the data base is corrupted LOL>> all members back to zero earnings..what a crock..

rico act?? or just sue them? Or irs?? that is another option>>>LOL

Somebody's not reading their mail HEHEHE. I lost out with TDGP. I will not click for ads. Its a waste of my time. I wish that any other sites that are planning to change over would just come on out and get it over. so we all can just deleted and go on with our clicking. If I'm going to take the time to send and ad I want to know that its worth my time to even type it. no ones looking at those redeem for ads email what benefit is it to them if they do. They get to send an ad that no one else is going to even look at. LOL The only benefit I can even see is for the sites they collect money for ads from people that think they are getting their moneys worth. Now we all know that's a big joke.


I think we need to do a little house cleaning myself boycotting is not the answer. Just keep up with our little forums we have here you'll see the light in many different ways. Yes, I know a lot of bad things are sad about good site but you'll soon learn the difference. Only the clicker can make up their own minds. We've all learn a lesson or two the hard way (Okay I learn more times then that LOL). Live and learn, read and keep informed


Keep smiling all,
Marie

Personally I'm not supporting Shane's or TDGP any longer. I've quit both programs, as have a ton of other people.

The little trick they've learned is pretty simple -

The site is in debt, they don't want to pay anyone so they announce they're going to ads only. Half their members (or more) leave immediately.

With a huge number of members they owed money to leaving and forfeiting their earnings they now announce that they're going BACK to being pay sites. But the members are going to only get ten cents on their dollar and have to click a lot harder to make payout. Another mass exodus occurs.....

Their debt keeps going down and they can say, "Oh no, not OUR fault you left and forfeited your earnings!"

I wouldn't trust the Shane's or TDGP POs to manage a piggy bank.

How can ANYONE be $30,000.00 in debt on the web site? Unless they included a mortgage or car loan or credit cards?

C'mon Totally-Duh, you guys need to just come clean, tell everyone you're quitting and there's no chance in a million years of getting their $3.00.

This is ridiculous. I've been waiting for 2 months or more for my $3.00. it was deducted from my earnings but I wasn't paid. Been there before with other sites.


If anyone thinks they'll be paid they need to buy my piece of blue sky....Take off the rose-colored sunglasses and LISTEN to those of us who are veterans in the GPTRE business. Yes, business. You have good business people and bad business people.
I join these programs as a supplement to my small income-I need the money frankly. There ARE good programs that really pay. BUT, once we start hearing about the debts, the change in TOS, the excuses...they are going down...and you need to stop wasting your time clicking the tons of links they send. It's only putting more money in their pockets.....


If a webmaster is even $3,000.00 in debt you are not going to be paid-EVER.
It's what I know from over 5 years of being in these programs. I'm just glad they didn't owe me more because I HATE quitting any program when I know I've done my best to be an active, honest member and I follow all the TOS.

Telling us about their "debt" does 1 big thing in their favor, it loses members, whom they owe (not anywhere near $30,000 BTW). Then they keep sending tons of e-mails from advertisers so they make more money. Eventually the e-mails will stop but I'd expect members to be flooded with tons of mails for months for a while.

It's too bad, I liked this site.......I TRUSTED THIS SITE.......It was only a $3.00 payout for Heaven's sake, couldn't they have paid us who requested months ago?

I quit this AM............I have better sites WHO PAY regularly with no excuses that I can focus on.....

I don't know why members are the only ones expected to follow the TOS.

It's terrible how many program owners know they're in financial trouble -keep letting members click away - then tell them they're too much in debt to pay them.

This isn't just new payout sites - a few of my older sites have recently sent letters
saying they can't pay.

Then the attitude is "Don't like it - then leave". Works out well because you don't have to pay that member for his work.

BRAVO to Zelda and to sgoryan! You guys really do seem to live in the real world and have common sense.

YES, PTR IS a business. Thank god for the PTR owners who run tight ships and actually know what they're doing. Their business ethics are good, they're savvy business people and they show respect for their members. They may change their TOS once in a while, but not every other week, for crying out loud... Then we've got people like the folks in question who should just go and flip burgers or do something else where they're not messing with other people's money or wasting other people's time.

THINK ABOUT THIS....

I've had a thought for those of you (and I noticed there aren't many posting here, thank God) who are thinking you'll keep supporting Totally-Duh and go down with the ship still singing their praises and expressing faith in the WM......

Just think of all the time it takes to click links in a dying or dead program. Even if you think it's iffy, why waste all that time?

Take THAT time and go into a site you know has paid you regularly-with me it's Mec-Co-Op, but whatever program you are a member of.......

Instead of reading and clicking on e-mails from Totally-Duh, take that time and go into paid-to-click areas in paying programs. USE your time wisely and productively.
Sure, click 1 link in Totally-Duh at least every week to stay active, but don't waste any more time than that.............

That was my philosophy with several GPTRE sites that were stalling mrmbers. At least I stayed active, some I got my payout, some I did not, but I used that extra time to click site links and earn the money in a site I KNEW to be reputable.

You'll make up your lost earnings in Totally-Duh with other programs and still keep the hope alive that someday you'll be paid from TDGP.

There are lots of paying sites, don't waste any more time...use your time for better WM.

Okie Dok...I've had my say.....My $.02 so-to-speak !

do you have any loving idea how hard it is to run a get paid site...

if you don't like what they do, then get out

Try this...
go to http://www.heavy-metal-mails.com. The site is not completely up - but you'll notice things have changed on the home page. When Ted first announced it would become an ads-only site, their homepage already stated that. He must be doing his best to work things out because now, from what I can see, it's saying emails will pay 3-10 cents and CASH payout is $100. I'm sure there's some raising of ad-prices and maybe even point emails coming along with that too.

As for TDGP...
I just read an email from them which also sounded like they wanted to try and make it work as a cash site. Ad values decreasing to 1/4-1/2 cent and payout increasing yet again to $25. They also said all payouts they make will be done on Thursdays. Anyways, it sounds like they are going to do their best to reduce the debt and remain a cash paying site.

I'm glad I've hung on to my membership. Perhaps Ted just couldn't see any way out of the debt other than not paying members anymore. I'm hoping that he's got past the loads of nasty emails I'm sure he's received and maybe found some helpful emails and is trying to come to a point where he can continue to run HMM as a cash site.

I posted this in the general area too since these aren't complaints. It looks like these webmasters are doing their best to keep the kind of PTR that their members want. The members are going to have to meet them half way and likely accept higher priced ads and less earnings for each click - but in my opinion it beats becoming an ads-only site. I'll continue to support them both and hope for the best outcome. AFTER the changes have taken place, I'll decide if I want to keep my membership or not.

Yes TDGP is really trying to turn it around ya thats what they keep saying. Thats why in all these months nothing but an empty promise of getting paid. All they ae doing now is trying to save face for the time.
Many people stode by them in all these months but this time people at least did open up their eyes and seen that the Wms was not who they thought they were.
There is nothing wrong if you stay with them but I wonder if 3 or 4 more months down the line when you are still waiting for payment if you will feel the same way.