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buddah785
Be very carefull what you ask WMs about... you might just get deleted.

Even though you think you read the terms, or the question at hand is a very viable one. You still risk the danger of getting deleted.

I am so fed up with this community, and industry now.

I will slowly be selling my smaller accounts over the next couple of days, and delete myself from those where I have no or little downline.

When the programs I have downlines in buckle under I will just sit back and relax, and think oh well I am already on my way out.


Remember this... reason is not an issue nor a fact in this industry.
kotafides
The "selling the account" issue?
buddah785
Yes.

I got deleted for asking a WM to consider letting me sell my account.

Note the consider part.
Juliette
QUOTE (buddah785 @ Mar 10 2004, 11:02 PM)
Yes.

I got deleted for asking a WM to consider letting me sell my account.

Note the consider part.

ouch

that seems a strange thing to do

are you sure?

kotafides
QUOTE (JulietNZ @ Mar 10 2004, 09:07 PM)
QUOTE (buddah785 @ Mar 10 2004, 11:02 PM)
Yes.

I got deleted for asking a WM to consider letting me sell my account.

Note the consider part.

ouch

that seems a strange thing to do

are you sure?

He has posted part of the Email he sent, so it looks like he was definately deleted for requesting and not actually doing. I'll be interested in how this pans out because it most certainly seems wrong.
antinomy
Would you mind PMing me the prog concerned? I promise I won't pass it on!
buddah785
1cent-$100-email.

I had a downline of 27 directs plus change, and got deleted simply for asking.

The thread that kotafides refer to can be read in their support folder in this forum.

edtied to remove typo
buddah785
WTF


my freaking post was edited out from that folder.


What is going on here?????????????????


http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...0&#entry1699626
kotafides
Buddah, post the form letter here, so everyone can see what you wrote. smile.gif

He can't edit your posts in here wink.gif
just_me
WOW, all I can say to that is that that is scandalous, we dont allow selling of accounts but would never dream of deleting a member for asking. Glad I am not a member of that program, if I was I would be hitting the unsubscribe button fast.
buddah785
This is what was written in that thread

I asked to get to know why my account had been deleted, heres reachtops answer:

QUOTE
hi,

read terms. and I had accounced about this.
we do not permit and supprot selling of account. if we find the issue about account selling, the particular account will be deleted immediately.
please make me spend time about this issue.

thanks.


heres my answer to that (this is not an excact copy as I never figured that my post would get edited out):

QUOTE
That is rotten B.S and you know it.

Your TOS is poorly written and open for misinterpetation. As I read it... if I was in the process of selling or had sold the account you would delete me... not delete me for asking.
I only asked you to consider letting me sell the account.
I send out a form letter to all programs in which I only have a small downline, and heres a copy of the letter (entire letter not included but the final line is):

>
>
>I hope that you will consider allowing me selling my account.
>
>Yours truely
>
>Thomas hansen


This is so B.S.



Read this and remember that my own answer is not a correct copy of what was posted but merely written as per I remember it. I was under the impression that nothing on this board got deleted or edited out, unless it was against forum rules.


Edited to add: My initial inquiry as to why my account was deleted was in a very mild manner and in no way harmfull or disrespectfull.
Enchanted
WOW, fabulous customer service. Deleting posts of members in the support folder. Fabulous support too ohmy.gif
Enchanted
QUOTE (buddah785 @ Mar 10 2004, 10:34 AM)
I was under the impression that nothing on this board got deleted or edited out, unless it was against forum rules.

PO's can edit, lock topics etc of threads posted in their support folder.

Edited to add: He should not have edited anyway. IMO, it's very wrong.
buddah785
QUOTE
PO's can edit, lock topics etc of threads posted in their support folder.


Still very bad form and behavior.
Eldritch
Buddah785: up to the point where I didn't know the program in question, I didn't feel the need to respond. However, now that you divulged that info, I'd like to direct your to this thread.

This webmaster is... eratic, which is the understatement of the year. wink.gif
I'm sorry this happened to you but the WM in question will never do any good, in my opinion, ever again.

Eld.
Enchanted
QUOTE (buddah785 @ Mar 10 2004, 10:46 AM)
QUOTE
PO's can edit, lock topics etc of threads posted in their support folder.


Still very bad form and behavior.

Sorry smile.gif I edited my post and you posted at the same time smile.gif

He should not have done what he did.
buddah785
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Mar 10 2004, 06:47 PM)
Buddah785: up to the point where I didn't know the program in question, I didn't feel the need to respond. However, now that you divulged that info, I'd like to direct your to this thread.

This webmaster is... eratic, which is the understatement of the year. wink.gif
I'm sorry this happened to you but the WM in question will never do any good, in my opinion, ever again.

Eld.

I did indeed read the thread mentioned at the time the issue was first mentioned.

But i still cannot understand on what grounds I was deleted.
I followed TOS to the full extend and didnt just rush off to sell the account.
I asked reachtop and even only asked him to consider the future sale.

I am very perplexed by this kind of behavior, and am asking him to reconsider his actions.
Eldritch
Not to discriminate but I fear his understanding of the English language is somewhat limited. I wouldn't be surprised if he completely misread it and offers you to re-signup. If your account is gone, which it is, he can't get it back. At least, that's what we were told at the time.

Eld.

Edited to add the 'deleted account' bit.
buddah785
LOL
with his deletion of my posts???
Eldritch
QUOTE (buddah785 @ Mar 10 2004, 01:05 PM)
LOL
with his deletion of my posts???

He's done stranger things. Pigs flying is a common occurence in his world, I believe. wink.gif

Eld.
vanderwerf11
sheeze thomas you and your brother have not been having a very good run lately have you mate

we deleted that program 2 months ago after our initial test of the referral link - found that none that we were given worked at all. and we tested it with 6 different members and we all ended up not in anyones downline aside for no_referer.

We assume that is the PO's account and that is why they dont like people to sell downline as they sell there own.

Lame operator this one

Paul
buddah785
I did manage to accumulate 27 direct refs by advertising.

But I am sorry to hear about this. Its very sad.
gptrman2003
if i want to sell the account, i will not consult the WM. just sell it on MSN or pm here.
Eldritch
QUOTE (gptrman2003 @ Mar 10 2004, 04:12 PM)
if i want to sell the account, i will not consult the WM. just sell it on MSN or pm here.

And that's the quickest way to get deleted if that is found out.

Eld.
kglaser
Welcome to the club buddah sad.gif
Anonymous
I can't believe he edited and erased your post!

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
mcf
I got out of this one after reading the other thread.
This has got to be one of the worst programs to come out since I have been in ptr.
This is terrible. I hope this experience won't cause you to leave altogether buddah.
I hope you got things worked out with aprilgold. I haven't followed that thread.
buddah785
The april business worked out.

But this will be my last fight.

I do not want to fight tyranious WMs anymore. That time is over.

I am slowly unsubbing from all programs, selling accounts here and everywhere else.
buddah785
And yet again has he edited out my most recent posts in his support folder:

QUOTE
reachtop Posted: Mar 10 2004, 07:06 PM 


Members


Group: Program Owners
Posts: 114
Member No.: 17381
Joined: 20-October 03



buddah785,
you surely went against terms.
why did you post your email except "I'll sell my account"?
are you owner of 1c100d? you don't have no right adjust terms.
do you wonder why i want to delete this thread?
buddah785 has sent emails two times, pm two times and posted here all at once.
all of them were same. this is like SPAM! but I replied pm two times before erase this thread.
I'll nevermind and don't reply whether you post complaint or not. anyway buddah785 is bothering me.
thank you very very much buddah.

This post has been edited by reachtop on Mar 10 2004, 07:11 PM


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ReachTop.net
Search4PPC.com
1cent-100dollar-email.com


QUOTE
buddah785 Posted: Mar 10 2004, 07:21 PM 


Expert Members


Group: Senior Members
Posts: 1346
Member No.: 15086
Joined: 4-September 03



My letter topic was:
account selling

and heres a copy of a feedback from another program so you can see that that is correct:

////////////////////////////////////////

bquestion_type: account selling

//////////////////////////////////////

I used to types of topics for this form letter.

heres the other:

////////////////////////////////////

> username: Buddah
>
> bquestion_type: account
>
> message_type: Hi


////////////////////////////////////


I send you one email asking for you to consider to allow me to sell my account.
Then when i found my account had been deleted, I send a new contact email to ask why.
I then went to this forum to find your support folder and ask there as well, in case you didnt answer the email.
I then PMed you a tracked PM with the link to the thread:

///////////////////////////////////////////////////

Personal Message
buddah785 Sent: take a look pls, Mar 10 2004, 11:18 AM




Group: Senior Members
Posts: 1345
Joined: 4-September 03

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=148883

pls take a look at this thread.

////////////////////////////////////////////////////



I then noticed that you had read the PM but neglected to answer the thread.
I then send you a PM asking if there was anyway that I could get in contact with you on MSN ICQ or anything of the like as I really would like to know why I was deleted.

You then replied to both PMs with a copy of your terms and a little note no to bother you as you didnt want to waste time on this.

If that is spam, I truely have been misinformed as to what spam really is.


edited to make it easier to read

This post has been edited by buddah785 on Mar 10 2004, 07:24 PM


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no sigy
buddah785
There was one more:

Do you have any way I can contact you as MSN, ICQ or something so we can settle this as gentlemen
kezree
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Mar 10 2004, 07:07 PM)
QUOTE (buddah785 @ Mar 10 2004, 01:05 PM)
LOL
with his deletion of my posts???

He's done stranger things. Pigs flying is a common occurence in his world, I believe. wink.gif

Eld.

Oooooh ....look Eld here they come now....
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the lil crusader
It doesn't look like you did anything wrong or out of the ordinary at all buddah. Of course, kglaser and eldritch didn't do anything wrong either, but this particular PO didn't see it that way. While I agree that his obvious shortcomings with English may have contributed to this -- it had nothing at all to do with his intentionally deleting the posts you made in his program's support folder. That was a deliberate malicious attempt by him to hide the truth and IMO it is completely inexcusable.

You're better off out of there.
kglaser
QUOTE (kezree @ Mar 10 2004, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Mar 10 2004, 07:07 PM)
QUOTE (buddah785 @ Mar 10 2004, 01:05 PM)
LOL
with his deletion of my posts???

He's done stranger things. Pigs flying is a common occurence in his world, I believe. wink.gif

Eld.

Oooooh ....look Eld here they come now....
user posted imageuser posted imageuser posted imageuser posted imageuser posted image

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Thanks kezree...I needed that laugh today biggrin.gif
buddah785
Third times the charm

I have again been edited out from his support folder.
mvanantwerpen
I know how you feel unsure.gif
kglaser
He's a coward. And I agree with what was stated earlier...his lack of proficiency in English is causing at least some of these troubles.
kotafides
Buddah, I would not be alligning yourself with Kglaser on this matter, it is a very seperate issue. You didn't deserve to be deleted. Don't muddy the waters smile.gif
kglaser
kotafides, why don't you let buddah make up his own mind? Thanks smile.gif
buddah785
I am not making allies, or enemies.

But do mind that the WM in question has now taken a new turn to the worse.

He has decided to leave this forum. Now this is something to be very very weary of.

I have seen similar acts from other WMs and none of them trustworthy.

Its kind of funny. I have taken on two major fights in this industry. Both with BIG programs. Both ended up with my reputation and honesty being attacked.
First WM called me a cheater.... then found out that I was in very good standings everywhere, then tried to attack me from different angles. All to no avail. I would not quit or stand down from one who lied or did wrongfull things intentionally. Even when it cost me accounts, downlines and time.

Yet they still try to subdue me in ways I didnt expect nor thought they would ever dare to.

Second WM stole my hardearned money and refs. With the excuse that I violated site terms. And when I posted proof of my innosence, my proof was edited away.

I then went on to a place where no one would edit my postings to show my innosence. Then the WM posts that I am dishonest and have spammed him. Again I provide proof of the opposite. Again I am edited out. Now that wasnt as unexpected as the first time, but surely did light my fire.
Reachtop ---> if you do not want the truth in public now where do you want it then?
In a little chest at the bottom of the ocean?

Then proceeding to use this as an excuse to flee from your problems is just another sign for further bad things to come.

If you have no interest in standing up for what you believe, its either because what you believe and what you say are not the same, or what you know should not be known by others as that would be bad for you.

This is a very old saying around where I live.... and by god it always fits.

Run, and keep running for all I care.
darkenlion
Well I just also emailed him and told him I didn't like his response in getpaid...........wonder if I'll get deleted to.................. oh to late I cancelled.................................................... MY KINGDOM TO FIND A HONEST PTR AND PTS....... dry.gif
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