A few weeks ago I posted a thread on here regarding 1,000Levels being nothing short of a scam.

Then all of a sudden the site went down and emails stopped, so I forgot all about it...

Anyway, my accusations rested on the fact that all they do is send out "Point" emails (most of these for Searches), each point being worth a MASSIVE 40th of a cent, yes FORTY POINTS equals one cent and for each search you are rewarded with ONE POINT!!!

So after doing a bit of working out, I came to this conclusion...

If it takes 40 points to get 1 cent and each search is worth 1 point, that means it takes 40 searches to get 1 cent, right? So that means!

200 searches for 5 cents

2,000 searches for 50 cents

4,000 searches for ONE DOLLAR and PAYOUT!!!

Now is there a single person in this forum that finds this the slighest bit realistic?

Considering some searches can net the affiliate up to 30 - 40 cents a go, I find this rate of 1/40 a cent a search nothing short of a TOTAL scam!!!

Even if each search was getting this webmaster 1/2 cent a go (which is a very LOW estimation), thats means they're (1,000Levels) earning $20 and giving its member $1.00 out of this, a nice cool $19 profit by the webmaster!!!

It doesn't stop there though does it?

As each email has a "HUGE" list of programs the owner is a member of, not a single one of these are paid links, so in my eyes, the owner of this site is merely using his site as a free mailing list and to think some mugs out there will be clicking these links for-ever-more to reach a couple of cents!

Even looking at their advertisement packages:

500 Clicks at $3 (Each person clicking will be rewarded with ONE POINT)

So if 500 people click for the ONE POINT, that means 1,000Levels have paid out about 12 cents (when these points are converted to cash at 1/40 cent each), yet the advertiser has paid $3.00???

TOTAL SCAM IF YOU ASK ME

And I challenge anyone to prove me wrong or even better anyone thats actually reached the min payout with these, if you have, boy you must have sore fingers with all that clicking.

The points value that you have stated there is wrong, it needs to be re-calculated, yes it is low, but a company can only pay out the amount of revenue it is bringing in. I have also responded to, what 4 or 5 threads with your same comment in? one of which is on my own forum. This issue has been responded to, and I appreciate your concern, but I can only pay out, what comes in, and that is a very low amount. At least email is being sent out, and in the past 2 weeks people had been getting cash clicks, which can be easily proven, as we have clicklogs of those who are paid for each email. It may not be much, but it is something, and people who know me can verify that they do indeed get paid when they reach payout

Wayne, I'm not disputing the fact that you DO payout, I'm just doubting many people actually reach the minimum payout, which is hard to believe considering its only ONE DOLLAR and you send 4 or 5 emails a day with 2 links on each email???

You say you payout what comes in?

Well how can you explain paying out 12 cents (500 clicks at 1/40 a cents a click) on adverts that cost $3.00?

Or

The Searches, I'm sure you're making MUCH more than 1/40 of a cent of each one, I myself have been a member of your site for around a year (it was actually one of my first sites). I have done literally HUNDREDS of GOOD searches for you, yet find out each one has earnt me 1/40 of a cent ...

As for sending out Cash Links? How come I haven't seen any? I haven't actually had a single mail off you for several weeks and your site was down, but tonight I've had about 4 POINT emails???

I've just been on the site to see where I go to quit, but can't see nothing, could you tell me where to go to quit, as I'm sick of getting your emails that are basdically just a spamming list of your own program referral urls...

Jeeze, over my membership with your site, I've probs earned you near on $100 in searches, lol, my account has 45 cents and a few hundred points(which will give me another couple of cents)

If I'd done them searches with a PROPER site like Emaillionaires, I'd probs have about $50 in my account!!!

Assuming I make heaps? How many ways can I split around $60 from Last Zone? I work on my search engines and i'm already looking for buyers for those other PTR sites. Participation is far too low, thats why the value is too low, I already told you that. Perhaps I could have a GetPaidForum moderator log into my Last Zone account? and tell you exactly how much they can see? I am prepared to do that if it would put the issue at rest.

Also, if you go into the edit account page, thats where the unsubscription option is.

Well if participation is so low (as you make out) how come you bother sending so many "POINT" and "SEARCH" emails out?

I find it hard to believe if participation is so low that you'd bother sending out 4 or 5 emails out a day...

As for First-Zone and Last-Zone, the program I mentioned, Emaillionaires ALWAYS uses these search engines, yet they manage to reward us with 1 cent a go?

What I can't understand is if participation is so low, then how does that effect the points value? If someone doesn't click-through, they don't get a point, right?

If I remember rightly, I've clicked on Searchtimes link via your emails, I myself have just opened a SearchTimes account, had minimal click-throughs, yet have $8 in my account, I can testify for that $8 I haven't even had 800 click-throughs, probs not even 400!

I have also in the past had a First-Zone account and once again, had minimal click-throughs, yet I was getting up tp 8-10 cents a click.

Anyway, I'll leave it there and I'm off to quit the site, thanks for telling me where to go and adios!!!

Participation is different at different places, and why is it to my advantage to send so many points emails? These points can be used for all kinds of things other than cash, and it covers the hosting, and Cynthia's (the manager) percentage. To me points is a different currency, and I am not enforcing these emails on anyone. You had the choice if you didn't like it, to unsubscribe, and you used that choice, i've explained it how it is.

Because they're literally loaded with referral urls of your own!!!

At least other sites that use their own referral links in their emails have SOME of them as rewards, you don't not a single one of them!!!

Oh well, I've just quit...

I'm sorry if you feel I'm wrong, but I'm just fed-up with sites milking their users and giving them NOTHING in return!!!

As far as I see it, thats as much scamming people as these sites that delete accounts for no reason at all, at least if that happens your no longer getting ripped off, unlike I've been getting done, searching all kinds for your site

So I didn't click these links(dollarbyemails) & waiting for normal cash email,but it seems my account is gone now..

And I am not even getting emails from 1,000Levels.
I think I didn't get any emails from 1,000Levels for the past several months..

This is not directed at anyone in particular

But I AM SO SICK of people CURSE WORD EDITED ! They dont get enough mail, get too much mail, the payout isnt good, etc, etc, etc. It goes on all day. Jesus Christ.

You have the power that every consumer in America has~ just dont go back!


PS~ A scam is a program that deletes accounts unfairly, NEVER pays out, or uses other unscrupulous techniques to screw members out of their fair share.

Did they delete your account? NO

Does the program really payout?
I dont know, but I have faith in Wayne, since he is here trying to defend himself, unlike most "scams" that would run for the hills & disappear.

Is there anyway to combine all the searches into one email rather than 4-6 emails a day?? that would help some of us out by only having to go through one email rather than many...

PPPRK, if you dont click links, then your account is flagged and deleted for inactivity. I did happen to send some cash links at the beginning of the month, but they were not to the whole memberbase. People have cashed out last month, so that does suggest that there is money flowing through the system, there just isnt that much money. The big advertiser that I did have doesnt advertise anymore because a member reported him when he didnt even do anything wrong. I was pretty upset that a member could do that and it turned out to be nothing more than jealousy. Thats why I work with my search engine now, people now seem to be nothing more than rude to me, so I have someone else manage the site, because if I fight back and respond rudely, that makes me no better than those, even my own girlfriend now has noticed that I seem to be cranky whenever something happens that involves a member. That advertiser was the reason I used to be able to send 1 cent links in the past, those were the good ole days. I had cynthia manage the site because I thought members deserved more than a cranky webmaster.

Putting all the links into one email just means that the bottom link doesnt get as much attention. I did try this previously, but then I decided to put 2 in 1 email.

I have paid a few people at 1000levels.com. Last months cashouts were mainly at Dollars By E-Mail. I believe even Family Affair cashed out once at 1000levels. Granted, there arent many cash emails sent, and the only decent advertiser I did have, doesnt want to do business because he was reported. There are disadvantages and advantages with every program.

I have a new points to cash conversion where at the end of each month, I can type in how much revenue was earned, and it can convert those points, i'm just scared to use it at the moment. Once I do start using it, it should make things alot more fairer.

The whole reason things have gone down hill, are the fact that the advertiser is no longer advertising with me, and the other advertisers are going through other programs. Those that do send out ads can afford to out of their own pocket. I no longer have that luxury as I am saving up to get married.

Whenever you're a webmaster, you're a potential target for rudeness, jealousy, I can write a big list. I'm no longer prepared to deal with it, so I changed to something that deserves my time. I lost 75% of my search revenue last week because some cheater decided to use my search engine to earn him a few bucks. I nearly closed, and if I had, I would have been called a scam. Instead I choose to go on, pay those affiliates and use a more reputable advertiser. Its just a shame that the 75% had to come out of my marriage fund. So yeah, I pay, i'm paying bigtime.

Things will get better they say I just hope its soon. I'm in talks with goclick, lookinginfo and abcsearch at the moment. So all I can ask, is that maybe people can give me a break for once, and stop writing bad things about me, i'm slow, but i'm no scam.