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vincy
On Average How much do you make a month of these PTR Sites. Has Anyone Taken this on full time
mvanantwerpen
Yep a few people have. wink.gif
Diablo
It's impossible to make a living off GPTR stuff unless you want to live in a cardboard box in the ghetto living off garbage and dead rats.
mvanantwerpen
QUOTE (Diablo @ Mar 7 2004, 05:14 PM)
It's impossible to make a living off GPTR stuff unless you want to live in a cardboard box in the ghetto living off garbage and dead rats.

lol You are completely wrong...Some people make thousands a month from GPTRE and searches combined blink.gif
vincy
I agree i meet one person. blink.gif interesting
miguelj
If you are really good in getting referrals then you can make hundreds of dollars laugh.gif
mvanantwerpen
QUOTE (vincy @ Mar 7 2004, 05:24 PM)
I agree i meet one person. blink.gif interesting

Like 3 out of 1000 people in this industry are very successful unsure.gif
mvanantwerpen
QUOTE (miguelj @ Mar 7 2004, 05:25 PM)
If you are really good in getting referrals then you can make hundreds of dollars laugh.gif

lmfao ya think blink.gif
MSaran
How could anyone make a living off of this industry?? There are always sites that are closing and then there is new ones. It's not a steady job. One day it will be there and eventually it wont. This isn't something somebody should make as their carreer. Could you imagine ppl. asking you what you do for a living and you say oh i read emails and click on stuff. laugh.gif
kath77
Not even most program owners make enough to quit their day jobs. That's something to keep in mind.
kittawna
I can see it now: Sorry, I can't pay the rent this month, one of my programs ran off and didn't pay me! laugh.gif
mvanantwerpen
QUOTE (kittawna @ Mar 7 2004, 07:47 PM)
I can see it now: Sorry, I can't pay the rent this month, one of my programs ran off and didn't pay me! laugh.gif

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mvanantwerpen
QUOTE (MSaran @ Mar 7 2004, 06:29 PM)
How could anyone make a living off of this industry?? There are always sites that are closing and then there is new ones. It's not a steady job. One day it will be there and eventually it wont. This isn't something somebody should make as their carreer. Could you imagine ppl. asking you what you do for a living and you say oh i read emails and click on stuff. laugh.gif

Trust me, there ARE people who make a living off PTR + searches combined. wink.gif
GibboNet
I can't imagine being a member of all of the programs combined would make you enough.

If, however, you had a website to promote things from, sold things on commision, sent ads to build downlines, took a few risks, and spent all your time on the 'net, it would almost be possible.

If you wanted to own a ptr site, that could also work - use it to promote your own links to other programs and searches, and you'd make a fair bit surely.

I'm hoping to strike it rich through my free porn site, where I have lots of sponsor pages etc, that should grab at least one out of every 1000 of my visitors. With payouts up to $50 for every person you signup, it could easily become a full time job.

All I have to do is get thousands of uniques every day. rolleyes.gif

It's slowly building though, it's a matter of months before I see some turnover. wink.gif
getpaidto
QUOTE (MSaran @ Mar 7 2004, 06:29 PM)
Could you imagine ppl. asking you what you do for a living and you say oh i read emails and click on stuff. laugh.gif


lol, I bet that one would raise an eyebrow or two :-)

-me
Pia
QUOTE (kittawna @ Mar 8 2004, 03:47 AM)
I can see it now: Sorry, I can't pay the rent this month, one of my programs ran off and didn't pay me! laugh.gif

Hmmmmmm *wondering if my landlord would buy that or kick us out*

tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
neelie
Living off this Stuff- good discussion. As far as I have gathered so far, people who jump in early, have their own sites,have invested good bit of dollar in professional website and advertising and have sound referral base, earn a lot regularly - that is why they say "I have earned $15 in 3 days" like that. Only people who make money are POs and members with sound referral base. If you have no good number of referrals and click 6-7 hrs a day, your first payout circle completes in about 4-5 months and another 2-3 months wait till payout. Nevertheless, with programs of good reputation like AYS, you reach early payout and get your money. I completed my payout in Cheechong, Mysticalclicks and Nilecash but never saw a penny. I wished If all the members and POs fair honestly, this could be one of the best home based business in the world. Lets respect each others sentiments and work with mutual cooperation. Although we dont know each other, at every end human being is working.
davidbugs
I can't believe a lot of people are taking this Get pay to read email very serious. I even read one person post yesterday. He has quit his job. He is being doing this everyday like 7am-9pm est.

People in here need to worry about their Social security benefic if they don't have a job. Even they decide to retired the age 65. People in here to take a part time job and get some good job skill to improve Resume.

What is going after if Get pay to read email Industry has goes out of business. What are you going to do now.

Im doing for this for fun and extra money.
MSaran
QUOTE (davidbugs @ Mar 8 2004, 12:12 PM)
I can't believe a lot of people are taking this Get pay to read email very serious. I even read one person post yesterday. He has quit his job. He is being doing this everyday like 7am-9pm est.


From 7am till 9pm? I would go crazy! That is insane! Does he even have a life. Dude is going to need coke bottle glasses if he's sitting in front of a computer like that every day all day long! blink.gif
juslen
i just want to make enough money to pay off my 50 dollar internet bill every month, and bring in some easy money to build a new PC. Other than that, its just nice to make money for being online. Heck.. im learning new things every day. And now maybe i will finally have the incentive to learn HTML so i can build a website.

That being said, if i could make 100 bucks a month i would be happy. biggrin.gif
lignjun
I don't do it becouse of money.

I do it becouse of fun.

If you want to live from this, then you must have thousands of referrals. So, you must invest on advertising if you want to earn something.
vincy
Seems like its all fun. Eventhough I do know some people who make a living off of this you need like one zillion referrals to do that. And ofcourse those need to be in multiple programs cus a program can crash anytime. Almost sounds easier to keep your day job! laugh.gif
themom1955
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make 100 bucks a month i would be happy.


well darling, when you figure out how to cashout $100 a month, PLEASE PM me....I've been at this for a long time...I may make $100 a month at all of the sites I'm a member of (in total)....but I sure ain't cashing out $100 a month.....a very BIG and all together different thing wink.gif


hope this didn't come across as snippy--just pointing out the (obvious) difference of earning VS. cashing out that amount. smile.gif
vanderwerf11
Hang on let me get my coke bottle glasses out --0-0---

Ahh thats better. What you cant make a living out of this? oh bugga!

Best of luck to you then

Paul
Shani
Hmmm if I can't make a living, someone tell me I can at least make a Swimming pool!
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GRL VenCap
QUOTE (mvanantwerpen @ Mar 7 2004, 10:14 PM)
Yep a few people have. wink.gif

only a few unsure.gif
GRL VenCap
QUOTE (Pia @ Mar 8 2004, 05:29 AM)
QUOTE (kittawna @ Mar 8 2004, 03:47 AM)
I can see it now:  Sorry, I can't pay the rent this month, one of my programs ran off and didn't pay me! laugh.gif

Hmmmmmm *wondering if my landlord would buy that or kick us out*

tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

lol laugh.gif
GRL VenCap
QUOTE (vanderwerf11 @ Mar 9 2004, 08:46 AM)
Hang on let me get my coke bottle glasses out --0-0---

Ahh thats better.

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did ya pay for them glasses yourself or did ya earn it from ptr? laugh.gif
vincy
QUOTE (GRL VenCap @ Mar 10 2004, 09:56 AM)
QUOTE (vanderwerf11 @ Mar 9 2004, 08:46 AM)
Hang on let me get my coke bottle glasses out --0-0---

Ahh thats better.

wacko.gif wacko.gif

did ya pay for them glasses yourself or did ya earn it from ptr? laugh.gif

ohmy.gif laugh.gif ph34r.gif
Boundrose
As far as I know, there are some countries in east Europe for example where old age pension and other welfare benefits are oscillating near 25 $
In the countries of such living standarts another 25 $ earned by "clicking" is a good motivation to take the trouble...

Problematic might be an internet connection, but shrewd one will find an opportunity at the large city's school or government institution...
freecashspace
I have no doubt that there are quite a few people who make a living from GPT-related business. And they're not all doing it the same way. And many of them aren't making their money from a single source or by using a single approach.

I'm not one of them, and I don't claim to know a whole lot about it, but I can think of a few ways of going about making some real money in this business.

Building downlines: No-brainer, right? And easier said than done. Ask Paul for all the secrets. But here's my guess -- advertising a PTR at another PTR ain't the way to do it.

Treating it like a business: If doing this is a hobby, fine. If its something you do for a little extra cash, fine. Do it for fun. Make a little extra cash. I'm betting that the people making serious money at this treat it like a real business. They have a plan. They work at it every day. They try new ideas, and stop doing things that don't work. This goes for POs as well as members. We know that most people don't make much money at this. We know that most programs will fail. If you're just doing the same things most people are doing, why would you expect a better result?

Actually selling something: I think there are people who are making money out of PTR because they actually have a real product or service to sell. I don't know that they make a living out of it, or if they make all, or even a majority, of their sales through PTR, but I think they're doing better than people who just read emails and click links.

There are PTR members out there buying products and services through ads they've received through those PTRs. The problem is its so Have a nice day :) hard to find them. Why? Because the POs don't even know who they are! Most POs still can't or won't target an email to a particular audience. A few can target to self-selected interests and by country. What if I want to get an ad to girls aged 16-25 who are single, have a credit card, and spend at least $20 a month shopping online? Hmph! Not likely! So its a lot more hit-n-miss than it has to be, but still, there are people finding those target markets and delivering ads to them, and making sales.

Maximizing earnings: I'm only beginning to get my head around this, but it seems like some people around here have got it seriously figured out. They make money out of everything they do online. Go look in the GPF Exchange Square. There are people selling all kinds of stuff in there! They sell accounts, and downlines, and they sell themselves as a referral before they even sign up for a program. Then they get paid by their upline for every referral they get. They sell ads. They make money exchanging online currencies. And all of that money is earned from sources other than the PO's. If the PO doesn't pay, or the program collapses, these members have still got cash in their pockets.

Scamming people: Plenty of money to be made ripping people off. I ain't gonna go into specifics here. If you want to be a criminal, you're on your own. Just don't be suckered into believing that old bit about how "Crime doesn't pay." Look around, not just here but at the world in general. Crime pays some people extremely well.

Living somewhere with a low cost-of-living: Keep in mind that some parts of the world are cheaper to live in than others. What might not seem like enough to "earn a living" in your part of the world might be a good, solid income in other parts.

That's about all I can think of for now.

Cheers,

Wil
layla7213
QUOTE (MSaran @ Mar 7 2004, 05:29 PM)
How could anyone make a living off of this industry?? There are always sites that are closing and then there is new ones. It's not a steady job. One day it will be there and eventually it wont. This isn't something somebody should make as their carreer. Could you imagine ppl. asking you what you do for a living and you say oh i read emails and click on stuff. laugh.gif

You answered your own question sorta wink.gif

For the sites that open & close ie SCAM they are making $ make no mistake about that. Scam sites get paid from advertisers IN ADVANCE then promising to pay memebers and when that time comes they DO NOT PAY.

Be weary of the "problems" i mentioned in my previous posts wink.gif

Take care
lay
bobo
It is secret??

There are some ones are full time.
Shani
I don't think it's a secret bobo.
You just have to ask/ talk to the right people is all wink.gif

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vincy
QUOTE (freecashspace @ Mar 10 2004, 11:00 AM)
Scamming people: Plenty of money to be made ripping people off. I ain't gonna go into specifics here. If you want to be a criminal, you're on your own. Just don't be suckered into believing that old bit about how "Crime doesn't pay." Look around, not just here but at the world in general. Crime pays some people extremely well.


That's true and it seems to be alot of them around here unsure.gif Not in the forum that is but out there i should say. dry.gif

It's like they have no conscience ph34r.gif
Mango88
QUOTE (vincy @ Mar 10 2004, 11:56 PM)
QUOTE (freecashspace @ Mar 10 2004, 11:00 AM)
Scamming people: Plenty of money to be made ripping people off. I ain't gonna go into specifics here. If you want to be a criminal, you're on your own. Just don't be suckered into believing that old bit about how "Crime doesn't pay." Look around, not just here but at the world in general. Crime pays some people extremely well.


That's true and it seems to be alot of them around here unsure.gif Not in the forum that is but out there i should say. dry.gif

It's like they have no conscience ph34r.gif

There are a bunch on this forum as well ph34r.gif

vanderwerf11
QUOTE
Building downlines: No-brainer, right? And easier said than done. Ask Paul for all the secrets. But here's my guess -- advertising a PTR at another PTR ain't the way to do it.


lol - Thanks Wil. You have some very good points in your post. Well I could sit here and go through every way that we make money. The first thing to get your head around is - Stop the thinking that PTRE is where the money is - Yes, there is some money if you dont mind working for around $9/ hour.

The correct thinking is to use PTRE, your downlines, your earnings to set up a very low cost targeted audience for products and services you want to promote and sell. Do not use PTRE to promote other types of MLM or those types of programs that require you to refer others to make some change.

For example, as Wil said, promote products that are low cost to the consumer, let say we look at the 50k core members in ptre - think about what do they want (other than money), what would help them (other than money) then find something that suits the market.

Closer easy example that makes sense - You will find threads here in the forum asking what is the best advertising? what is the best type of ad? How do I write good ads? - all these are very related. There are two ebooks that have been around for about 8 months and are very inexpensive to buy the resell rights to (not that you need to) they are, "Million Dollar Emails" and "Writting Ads that Sell" - These are just two and people can buy them for about $20 each - cheap as chips?

Now redeem your earnings to advertise something like that. Here is what happens - say you make $5 per book right? you send an ad to any number of programs and it costs you say, $100 for the the campaine, right? So you now need to have 20 people out of the 30k people you send it to to buy the book to break even. 20 out of 30,000 what do you think the odds are of getting more than that - if you have reseached a product that suits the target audience you are sending it to you will most likely have 500 people purchase that usefull information that they need to help them.

So now for your $100 you could quite easily make $2500 - sound a bit better than clicking your knuckles off? anyway just to wrap it up - do some research on what you think people need to help them make money and you will have a quick winner, then move on to the next item.

As far as building downlines, well it is not that easy by yourself, though finding a system that helps and supports you, is certainly a beginning. Once you have the downlines and they dont have to be that big, you then use the money you make to advertise items that have a greater profit margin. Sort of compounding your earnings. It is easy with the right guidance and help, though it does take four or so months of hard work to get the ball really going.

I am not sure if this helps you at all or even if you can understand what I have written. But sit back and take a look at what PTRE really is, and come up with your own ideas and test them. Sort of like testing the water.

Best of luck to you and great fortunes
Paul
CASH_FLOW3
Even if someone made a living off this it would be very had becuase this industry is so unstable. You could never rely on getting paid on time or even getting paid at all. But it is a great source of extra income if you know what you're doing.
vincy
I agree its best for side cash but ya know it could build over time if you keep at it. wink.gif
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