YBonline
May 1 2002, 01:25 PM
WePaid.com now has made a relaunch. No longer powered by the Create-A-Click software and using the beta version of GetPaidSite software, WePaid looks like it will be a big success...
With the new owners of WePaid.com, they are sure to pay, as they have Grace and Karen on there side. Features of the program now include paid emails, points emails, portal page, and more!
All old members will be required to rejoin, but they will receive 50,000 Banner Impressions, One Non-Paid Ad to all members. Old members were not imported as the old databases had problems.
carrico
May 1 2002, 04:15 PM
'All old members will be required to rejoin, but they will receive 50,000 Banner Impressions, One Non-Paid Ad to all members. Old members were not imported as the old databases had problems. ' ???
Good excuse... What they should do instead of those 'bonus' were to honour previous earnings!!!
Problems on old databases? Yeah sure...
ppprk
May 1 2002, 04:23 PM
That's what the judge did & I don't think they can pay all the money the old owner owe.
quote:
Originally posted by carrico:
'All old members will be required to rejoin, but they will receive 50,000 Banner Impressions, One Non-Paid Ad to all members. Old members were not imported as the old databases had problems. ' ???
Good excuse... What they should do instead of those 'bonus' were to honour previous earnings!!!
Problems on old databases? Yeah sure...
[ 05-02-2002, 06:25 AM: Message edited by: ppprk ]
carrico
May 1 2002, 04:34 PM
Yes, but the ethical and 'honest' thing to do was to honour previous earnings. Period.
jaboles
May 1 2002, 09:28 PM
quote:
Yes, but the ethical and 'honest' thing to do was to honour previous earnings. Period.
Exactly. If 'thejudge' attempts any other CAC site like WeScam, i'm not joining.
lgwong
May 1 2002, 11:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ppprk:
That's what the judge did & I don't think they can pay all the money the old owner owe.
But isn't the new owner has promised thejudge to takeover all the accounts and debts of wepaid!? They can just use an excuse that the old database has problem and discharge the thousands of dollars unpaid! Haven't getpaidsite promise to deliver a database converter? So how come they cannot convert the old database to the new one.
I just really want to know whether the new owner has made a promise with thejudge that they will honor all the old earning. If they did, they are cheating all the old members. I will not join them again.
[ 05-02-2002, 01:50 PM: Message edited by: lgwong ]
ppprk
May 2 2002, 12:08 AM
Me too,but when I posted at other forum that I had heard earnings & referrals would remain the same
,the owner's friend(i think she is the owner's friend) replied as far as she knew,nothing had been decided either way.
When I told her in the chat room that thejudge told us that way,she said that I know how he acts.
However,I myself know nothing about this:whether the new owner has made a promise with thejudge that they will honor all the old earning.
quote:
Originally posted by lgwong:
quote:
Originally posted by ppprk:
That's what the judge did & I don't think they can pay all the money the old owner owe.
But isn't the new owner has promised thejudge to takeover all the accounts and debts of wepaid!? They can just use an excuse that the old database has problem and discharge the thousands of dollars unpaid! Haven't getpaidsite promise to deliver a database converter? So how come they cannot convert the old database to the new one.
I just really want to know whether the new owner has made a promise with thejudge that they will honor all the old earning. If they did, they are cheating all the old members. I will not join them again.
[ 05-02-2002, 02:16 PM: Message edited by: ppprk ]
vinitha
May 2 2002, 12:19 AM
Here is the bottom line. Who has the most to gain from a "corrupt database"? Is it thejudge who is not at all involved with wepaid anymore, or is it the new owners.
In either case, this is the internet where anything goes, and there are far worse scams out there. The bottom line is what programs people choose to promote for the long term.
FamilyAffair
May 2 2002, 01:40 AM
So angry... I made effort & money to promote WePaid but ended up not getting anything & must build downline again.
oranhir
May 2 2002, 09:38 PM
I have just joined wepaid again and I think I should get my banner impressions and my non paid ad. Well, how can I get it? Anybody already got it?
wantumbucks
May 2 2002, 09:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by oranhir:
I have just joined wepaid again and I think I should get my banner impressions and my non paid ad. Well, how can I get it? Anybody already got it?
If you were a former member and re-signed with the same email addy-order your ad and impressions in the advertising section. Type in wepaid in the payment amount box
oranhir
May 2 2002, 10:24 PM
Yes, I was a member and I signed with the same addy. Thanks, for telling me how to get my banner impressions and my non paid ad!
E_Walks
May 4 2002, 11:18 AM
I was told when i emailed the old owner when s/he anounced was closing and said would keep the databases intact.
But i dunno, i had about 50 cents or so (give or take a cent ) in my account, i can't complain.
Plus i didnt get any referrals for WePaid whilst i was part of it for the first time.
However, thinking thinking.. they have the email address' of old members, so why is it they can save the Emails, but not earnings?
But i think the (normally about 20 dollars) Free adverts have covered my old earnings, LOL.
And they didn't have to give ad's.
~ ~
lgwong
May 4 2002, 06:57 PM
So what will you expect when you becomea new wepaid member. You will recieve 13000+ nonpaid email ad over the next few weeks!
I have also confirmed with the previous owner that the new owner has agreed to keep the old earnings. There are also back up of database which they could use!
[ 05-05-2002, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: lgwong ]
Niels
May 4 2002, 09:13 PM
1: What got them to close down?
2: Is thejudge their old owner?
3: Yep members will probaly just get swarmed with non paid mails.
YBonline
May 5 2002, 03:34 AM
Well, let me just say this.
Apparently, with the old owner, they were a scam. Would you rather your earnings get intact and them remaining a scam or getting new owners who wouldn't be scamming you giving you a very generous present, and paying you all the money you earn in the future?
carrico
May 5 2002, 04:29 AM
Very generous???
A flood of nonpaid emails no?
It looks like that the new owner would honour the earnings and referrals already exisiting on database.
Also, it looks like that there was a backup databse.
Also, if they can credit the new signups with the 'present', they can go into a previous database of existing members.
Why don't they just admit that wanted to do it CAUSE THEY WANTED and not blaming others???
I didn't join again. Just wondering why some ppl complain and complain and complain, and then they just go signing up again.
[ 05-05-2002, 06:30 PM: Message edited by: carrico ]
ppprk
May 5 2002, 04:34 AM
Just for your info.
I asked the new owner and she said she didn't promise that she would keep the old earnings.
She said the only thing she promised is not to share his whois info.
I pmed thejudge this morning.I know he still visits this froum.Lets see what he will say.
[ 05-05-2002, 06:35 PM: Message edited by: ppprk ]
YBonline
May 5 2002, 06:44 AM
Would you rather me send you $1000 and it never arrive or $50 and it arrives the next day?
There was NEVER an agreement to transfer the earnings, referrals or anything else. The programs text database files included both the upline and downline of people, just like every other program. The problem? None of the data matched! Referrals were flying all over the place. The earnings data was not lost, but how is she going to pay without thejudge giving her the money to? The agreement was that she did not have to pay, as thejudge was not planning on paying you anyways! You could have had 5 billion referrals in there, $5000 cash, what good is that if a program isn't going to pay? I for one would rather GET $50 then having $5000 and getting my account canclled for cheating, which I did not.
Thejudge told me this in a private message on MSN himself that the referrals were not matching up and a ton of them mysteriously disappeared right before he sold it. That is THE OLD OWNER.
Why don't you go buy UniqueSurf, go pay out all the people who earned thousands of dollars on there... I personally have about $5000 last time I checked in there because I found a bug in there system and got all of the unreferred referrals. Go buy UniqueSurf and give me my $5000! Unless an owner transfers the money to the new owner, you can't expect them to give up there own money. They could have given you NO PRESENT. If it wasn't bought, you woulda got NOTHING. Be glad you are getting what you are, and if anyone even bothered to read the announcement in the members area, they are sending those emails out as point emails.
Go look at the threads in this folder about WePaid.com (with the previous owner) cancelling accounts when people request a payment. Thejudge then made us agree that we would not post his whois information for whoever owns the domain, since it apparently was not him, and it just disappeared while he was running it. They were clearly a scam before, don't expect when a scam site gets sold the new owner to give the money that the old owner put in his pocket.
Also I might point out that thejudge never said that his company was not a scam... Nowhere did he even bother to say it wasn't, because it was. Be glad a scam turned around with new owners and is no longer a scam. Its great news.
quote:
Originally posted by carrico:
Very generous???
A flood of nonpaid emails no?
It looks like that the new owner would honour the earnings and referrals already exisiting on database.
Also, it looks like that there was a backup databse.
Also, if they can credit the new signups with the 'present', they can go into a previous database of existing members.
Why don't they just admit that wanted to do it CAUSE THEY WANTED and not blaming others???
I didn't join again. Just wondering why some ppl complain and complain and complain, and then they just go signing up again.
carrico
May 5 2002, 06:58 AM
I'm glad then - VERY GLAD INDEED - that someone bothers him or herself to buy a program which is a scam just to clean the bad name and reputation of that program, instead of making a new one from the scratch...
A lot of philantrophic ppl here and I didn't know
[ 05-05-2002, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: carrico ]
YBonline
May 9 2002, 09:45 AM
They paid!
ppprk
May 9 2002, 10:20 AM
Yes,they paid my referrer
My referrer bought me one gold.
Now I have two golds:)
[ 05-10-2002, 12:20 AM: Message edited by: ppprk ]
YBonline
May 9 2002, 10:25 AM
Not to mention me, hehe, well that was for a different reason but... LOL... I'm almost at a payment there
jimbaum
May 11 2002, 12:00 AM
Now, what was the benefit of keeping the old name?
New program, new membership, bad reputation....hmmm
sophieca
May 11 2002, 07:05 AM
Not sure why they kept the old name but as you might know, buying existing CACsites is more interesting than buying new ones, the agreements to buy new ones have changed in disadvantage of the buyer......
For a lot of people, like Ybonline said very well, better have 20 US$ ads than nothing if the ex-owner was going to run away with the money anyway ! If the new owners didn't buy the site, the ex-members would have lost everything !
Those 2 webmasters are very capable and if I didn't join the first Wepaid, I am happy I did join this one....it's a promising site with honest people running it !
Only my 2 cents :-)
Sophie
lgwong
May 11 2002, 12:50 PM
This is on wepaid.com notice to old members
quote:
Due to the problems with the old WePaid database; WePaid will not be relaunching as the site it was before. Unfortunately, you will not be able to continue with your current account
So they are not paying not because there is no agreement with the previous owner. They claim that they do not pay becuase the old database was corrupted. But there are backup. Even without backups, there are still a lot of thing left behind in the old database. As least I can still check my accuont stat after the site was sold!
guinless
May 11 2002, 06:03 PM
Please excuse me Michael Igwong, I am a guest in your house (forum) and I do not wish to offend you the host...
You are beginning to sound like a broken record Do you have stock in C-A-C and you do not like to see a non-C-A-C succeed?
When I heard that WePaid had been sold, I assumed that all old accounts would be lost anyway. Then the new owner told me she was trying to make sense of the referral information and would try to re-launch... Later she found the referral information was too corrupted to be of any use. She did have the email address of all the old members and decided to make the offer of banners and free email only from the goodness of her heart. She had no legal or moral obligation to do that IMHO. There are very few program owners would have done that.
If you wish to continue accusing here about WePaid, then as I say, this is your house... however I, as your new guest, am starting to find it a little tiresome.
And yes, thank you ppprk - (The new) WePaid paid me already which is why I was able to buy you the extra gold. I hope it is good for you
Only free emails going out? I think not!
Marty
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Some whine, some see opportunity and seize it - what do you want to do today?
lgwong
May 12 2002, 12:52 AM
I actually wish to buy the new script from Ybonline for my site. I think it is better than the CAC script. I am not attacking wepaid because I want to help CAC.
Either the old or the new owner is responsible for the old earnings. This depends on the sales agreement made. From the information I have, the new owner has agreed to honor the old earnings. This is what appear to be their intention from their announcement to old members. But you could not discharge the responsibility just by saying that the old database is corrupted as there are backups. This is totally unaacceptable.
I know wepaid will likely to paid in the future, as I have been paid by adclick as well. But the problem of discharging all the own earnings with such an excuse is unacceptable. I would be glad if the old and new owners disclosed their email communications on the sales of wepaid and see who should be responsible for this.
When you buy a company, you buy all its assets and liability, unless there is something explicit in the agreement that someone is repsonsible. Now someone has buy wepaid and the previous owner say that the liability will be handled by the new owner, so what do you think we should do? Just sit here and not say a word?
I didn't see the new owner response to this matter apart from the announcement from their site.
sophieca
May 12 2002, 06:06 AM
I think that if the new webmasters took over the debts from the first Wepaid, they would have been paid for doing so instead of paying for the site !
The value of the site would have been negative !!!!
So, who would pay for a site with a negative value ?
And of course the ex-owner will tell you he doesn't owe you anything anymore.....who would expect something else ?
Sophie
YBonline
May 13 2002, 04:31 AM
If you wish to ask Grace (wvpdles) questions about this, she is in the (RefMaker) chat non stop... I'll try and remember to ask her to stop by this forum for you if you like...
[ 05-18-2002, 03:36 AM: Message edited by: YBonline ]
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