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the lil crusader
If you see an email anywhere advertising all4energy.com - all links to that program redirect you to a very graphic porn site, NOT to a PTR program!! mad.gif

Fortunately it's not a hijacker so it won't take over your browser and change your settings, but believe me, it's nothing you want to have open up if you've got children around you.

How does something like this happen anyway?
mccallul
I think the site has been taken down. I don't get anything when I type in the address.
the lil crusader
QUOTE (mccallul @ Feb 22 2004, 06:56 PM)
I think the site has been taken down. I don't get anything when I type in the address.

I just got it by clicking on a couple of different links in the d/l builder.....and it came up earlier today in that ad sent out by Dream Star.....I honestly don't know what's going on, just that it's very unpleasant.
mccallul
I don't know either. I will keep my eye out for it though.
vanderwerf11
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How does something like this happen anyway?


Lil C

they do it with domain gererated tracking links - we use them (though not for that reason - eg they set up a nice clean link and when the admins check all is ok with the submitted site it gets approved - then when the nasty buggers get that email - they change the url for the link.

we use that to control our banners - so we can rotate the same banner to any site we are promoting that month - very handy tool but as always someone abuses it.

Paul
Wren
That happened with a link from one of the programs I'm in the other day. I emailed the WM but got no response.

This link: http:// www.platinumemail.com/ pages/ index.php? refid= icpneilyahoocom

Takes you to this site: http:// news.asian3p.com/ news/ index.html

And it's definitely not a nice link.

(Added spacess to the links to make them non-clickable. If you want to copy/paste or type them in, so be it. laugh.gif )
eternus
This is admin from All4Energy.com.

First, allow me to apologize for that link that as I have been told redirected to a porn site.

I DO NOT KNOW HOW THIS OCCURRED AND WE ARE ALL VERY SORRY THAT THIS DID OCCUR.

Secondly, All4Energy.com is in NO WAY porn related, far from it. As I said, I don't know what could have happened with that link but the link was our url and referid=16.

Thirdly, We have not been able to access cPanel all day today. I have already emailed our programmer. We receive their replies the following day, so I cannot do anything today in the cPanel or admin area except wait until tomorrow.
Although, they respond the next day, their service has been very good and have fixed things promptly. I expect to be up and running tomorrow.

I have had several email exchanges with the new admin for annies and they have been kind to understand the situation and will post another ad with a working link.
I will email them another ad, tomorrow, when I am sure that the url will not produce a "page cannot be found" screen.

One other thing:

I want to share with you the emails exchanged between myself and annie, the day before she announced whe was passing the business to dana.

I had emailed Annie to ask her what the donations were about. This was her reply:

----- Original Message -----
From: Annie
To: Nermana Eternus
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: about the donations


Since what happened with esmartpay, it has put me behind, and just created a huge debt, when members donate even as little as 50c from their earnings, it helps bring it down a bit.

Annie


***************************************************************************************************************************************************

I then replied to her with the following email:


***************************************************************************************************************************************************
Hi Annie,
I understand. Although, I have been saving like crazy to be able to advertise the 5c to 10c email ads from your site and currently have $33.6825 in earnings, the $33.6825 will be more energizing for all, if I apply it now.


I went to the redemptions area and submitted the following:



1x (1/4 cent ad to all - Spend Cash $ 25)

2 x (Help Annies site - donate $4 Spend Cash $ 4) >> $8.00 donation


The text I included with the 3 submissions is below.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All4Energy.com

Energize with $0.50 to $1.50 for EVERY $10.00 you earn for 2 Months!

Recharge with $1.50 to $3.00 for EVERY $40.00 you earn ONGOING!

5c 10c 20c 30c emails

Advertisers: Get Money Back Every Time You Advertise!!

There's More... Get $30.00 for 40 referrals. Yes, There's even more...

http://all4energy.com?refer=16

All4Energy.com
Energy 4 All
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Sending you lots of good energy
Nermana (also known as Nikki)
***************************************************************************************************************************************************

So I spent $25.00 for the ad AND donated $8.00 to help her with payouts to her members - to you! (I don't think a porn related site would do that.)

All4Energy is about sharing energy, in a positive constructive way.
We have created generous earnings, bonuses, contests and raffles in order to share a great deal of energy that we receive from the monies from advertisers.

We then would like our membes to place and ad with us, to read their emails, click thru searches and share their energy with us so that we can make this a very good, healthy, satisfying and profitable program.

Again, we apologize for that redirection happening, although we do not know what may have caused it.

As I said, we will be sending another copy ad to the new admin at annies, as they have emailed for us to do. We will do that tomorrow.

Please view it in a new light, in the light it was meant to be in.

>>A very good program that will energize and recharge its members and advertisers alike and provide an opportunity to make some good money and have some fun and fulfilling experiences along the way.

Sincerely,
Nermana
Webmistress of all4energy.com

Energy to You All



debrina
QUOTE (vanderwerf11 @ Feb 23 2004, 08:05 AM)
QUOTE
How does something like this happen anyway?


they do it with domain gererated tracking links - we use them (though not for that reason - eg they set up a nice clean link and when the admins check all is ok with the submitted site it gets approved - then when the nasty buggers get that email - they change the url for the link.

we use that to control our banners - so we can rotate the same banner to any site we are promoting that month - very handy tool but as always someone abuses it.

Paul

Paul,

Am I to understand that you are implying the WM's have control over this? I also got the same link in an ad and clicked it. I have no problem with people who view porn. I have a problem with getting porn in my email box when I did not request it.

I sent a message to the WM of the site that sent it to me. No response. Not even an apology mail to all or an explaination.

Other sites that I am a member of at least take the time to apologize to all if this should happen from their email ads. This one didnt even respond to me individually or to the member base as a whole.

What a shame! Some WM's could care a less and would rather see people get upset and post in the forum. Being professional enough to let members knwo you care and are truly sorry for this would be appreciated bt many members in my opinion.

And to the person who claims they run that site. I also have not seen the site itself yet. It is suspended according to what my browser shows me.

Some of my comments are not directed at you, but the general public of WM's and members who do show a concern over issues such as this.

Later!

Debrina
the lil crusader
Debrina: I'm not sure exactly what you're wanting, but it looks to me as if the post directly above yours is, indeed, an apology from that program's WM.

QUOTE
This is admin from All4Energy.com.

First, allow me to apologize for that link that as I have been told redirected to a porn site.

I DO NOT KNOW HOW THIS OCCURRED AND WE ARE ALL VERY SORRY THAT THIS DID OCCUR.

Secondly, All4Energy.com is in NO WAY porn related, far from it. As I said, I don't know what could have happened with that link but the link was our url and referid=16.

Thirdly, We have not been able to access cPanel all day today. I have already emailed our programmer. We receive their replies the following day, so I cannot do anything today in the cPanel or admin area except wait until tomorrow.
Although, they respond the next day, their service has been very good and have fixed things promptly. I expect to be up and running tomorrow.


debrina
QUOTE (the lil crusader @ Feb 24 2004, 02:32 AM)
Debrina: I'm not sure exactly what you're wanting, but it looks to me as if the post directly above yours is, indeed, an apology from that program's WM.

QUOTE
This is admin from All4Energy.com.

First, allow me to apologize for that link that as I have been told redirected to a porn site.

I DO NOT KNOW HOW THIS OCCURRED AND WE ARE ALL VERY SORRY THAT THIS DID OCCUR.

Secondly, All4Energy.com is in NO WAY porn related, far from it. As I said, I don't know what could have happened with that link but the link was our url and referid=16.

Thirdly, We have not been able to access cPanel all day today. I have already emailed our programmer. We receive their replies the following day, so I cannot do anything today in the cPanel or admin area except wait until tomorrow.
Although, they respond the next day, their service has been very good and have fixed things promptly. I expect to be up and running tomorrow.

Lil,

I know he apologized. I feel he did what is right, however, the WM of the site that ran the ad, never sent a message stating it was a mistake, sorry for what some members saw, etc.

I have had similar incidences happen in other ptr's and the WM's always send out a message to members saying sorry, etc. I am just suprised that some WM's don't acknowledge the mistake, although they may not of known.

I also was questioning if Paul was implying that the WM's actually have some control over if this type of thing happens at times or not.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. Sometimes that is difficult to do when the words are typed and you can't see a person's facial expressions.

Debrina
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