after posting that my earnings were deleted in this forum, along with others and on jay's forum lots of people lost earnings, fancyemail sends a paid link. so i contacted the webmaster: here is Jays response. what a SCAM he is: AND WHAT NERVE HE HAS FOR WRITING THIS.

From :
"Fancy-CashEmail Admin" <webmaster@Fancy-CashEmail.com>

To :
<ILostMyTrueLove@hotmail.com>

Subject :
Re:

Date :
Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:34:12 -0500

Reply Reply All Forward Delete Put in Folder...InboxSent MessagesDraftsTrash Can Printer Friendly Version

I hope you feel bad for writting this !

Jay


----- Original Message -----
From: <ILostMyTrueLove@hotmail.com>
To: <support@fancy-cashemail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:31 AM


> Message-Id: <E18172N-0001mE-00@host.jaydillar.com>
> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:21:43 -0400
> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with
any abuse report
> X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.jaydillar.com
> X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - fancy-cashemail.com
> X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [99 99] / [99 99]
> X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - host.jaydillar.com
>
>
> name: Caroline Chaudhary
>
> username: ILostMyTrueLove
>
> subject_type: Earnings/Points Question
>
> bquestion_type: put my money back into my account
>
> message_type: i just joined up yesterday and i did all your paid to click
section. please put back all this money!! not a lot but heck, i clicked all
the links!!
>
> now you send out a gptr email and you want me to click on it? for what?
so you can delete that also??
>
> Caroline
>
>
>

calm down caroline!

im still missing all my downline and earnings and i didnt even get that mail!!

sit tight things will be fixed before you know it!

okay, i'll calm down. sorry. but it is upsetting to get an email from Jay like that.

and he knows i don't like him. so i know its personal.

so i'll sit tight. and smile

Caroline

good gal

your my referal in this program anyway ill look afta u hehe

Goodness! I'm sure Jay and Sherry are already stressed over the glitch, they've probably received 2000 emails over it. And then to get one demanding to put it all back NOW... lol. I must say, he was probably a bit nicer than I might have been in the same situation. When glitches occur it's impossible to snap our fingers and have it fixed NOW. Perhaps a bit less demanding email would have gotten a more favorable response.

Maybe if you had ASKED why the earnings had disappeared from your account instead of being rude, you wouldn't have got that reply.

And if you'd clicked that paid link (email subject line was Paid Link FYI) you would have found out what the problem was!!!!!!

It was a server error that John from MyEcom was already working on.


Jay is one of the best webmasters I know so don't go shouting he's a scam until you check your facts.

Thanks Lachlanm

I WILL NOT EVEN BOTHER ANSWERING 2 --------.

CONDEMN JAY, NOT ME YOU OTHER 2 WHO POSTED.

YOU DONT SEND OUT A PAID EMAIL WHEN EVERYBODY IS NOT GOING TO GET CREDITED ANYWAYS!!!!

TO JAY,

YOU THINK YOU ARE SO SMART IN DELETING EVERYBODY WHEN YOU HAD 2 HARD DRIVE FAILURES. AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY YOU ANSWERED BACK WITH SUCH AN ANSWER. CUZ YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THE TRUTH. BECAUSE ITS PERSONAL WITH YOU AND ME. YOU WERE GOING UNDER AND LIED ABOUT THE WHOLE THING JUST SO EVERYONE WOULD HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN.

Nobody got deleted, Caroline. He had backups, and nobody lost much anyways. The backups where a couple of weeks old. Yes, people wold lose referrals and Credit, but at least he made up for the lost credit by those links to make up for the missing. I gain an extra $2 that way which I would not have gotten if the crash never hapened.

i got deleted!! twice!! both times!!! lost everything!!!!

the 3rd time i joined under my sister. AND I STILL COULDNT LOG IN. SAID MY EMAIL ADDRESS DID NOT EXIST.

so Jay blocked my IP address which is how i see it.

THIS IS THE END OF THIS TOPIC!!!

i'll wait for fancy emails to come back up again.

Oh my... lol! I do so hate being told "THIS IS THE END OF THIS TOPIC!!!"

Just wanted to tell you hon that I wasn't condemning either of you. Sometimes people are just too quick to jump to conclusions, get all upset, and start a big ruckus that should never have been started. Whatever happened in the past is over... this is a new day. If you feel so strongly against Jay, perhaps you shouldn't have joined his programs. Is this really worth getting your blood pressure up over? Relax... breathe... it's all good.

why do you keep joining his programs if you think he's a scam and if you don't like him?

Good ######ing question................

Amen

I'm wondering is all this nastiness worth it for a few cents???????

Jay is working on this.
ALL THE MEMBERS are having the same problem...it is not a personal vendetta against a select few people.

And the comment about Jays "going under"????????????

OMG! If you knew ANYTHING AT ALL about Jays programs and the amount of advertising that flows through those programs on a daily basis, you would feel so very foolish for saying such a thing!

And about the way you think Jay responds in a rude way......Jay tells it like it is. It is not always what you want to hear.....but it is ALWAYS the TRUTH!
And if you are rude to him, he will be rude right back, and rightfully so!

What makes you think you are so important that you can be soooooo demanding and then you think you deserve to be treated with respect in return?

I DON'T THINK SO!

And apparently you know nothing about how Jay treats his members. Those of us who are patient and try to help him through problems and situations like this, instead of bashing and demanding and wasting his time. Time he needs to actually work on the problem. Rude and threatening emails won't get the problem fixed any faster....having to wade through all that crap only makes it take longer.

(Hey idykitter and billiev, I can't wait to open my Jays email after all this is sorted out, can you?
We know what is probably coming....right?)
We know how Jay takes care of his members.

Posted: June 24 2002,00:39

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Hello,
We are sorry to inform you that server where your web site is hosted experienced a major problem today.
As you know your web site was mirrored on a redundant hard disk in real time
(RAID 0+1 system) so that even in case of an hard disk crash your data would
have been recovered by just replacing the failed disk.
Well, it's the first time we hear of such a rare case like two disks crashing within a few minutes, but it's what happened to that server today: while we
were replacing the crashed disk, before completing that operation, the other disk crashed too (!), so I'm sorry to inform you that your data at the moment
is not accessible, and will not be accessible unless the data recover attempt we are performing will be successful.

Since we cannot guarantee that the data recovery will be successful nor quick and since we understand that your site must be back online in the shortest
possible time, we created your account again on a different serve. All you have to do in order to have your web site back online is to upload it again through
ftp or frontpage as usual, using the usual login, password and host information.
In case you changed your password in the past, note that you have to use the first password that we assigned to your account, that is the one included in
the original welcome message.

In case you use a MySQL or PostgreSQL Databases: don't worry, your database is
safe, it was not affected by the data loss.

We apologize for such a major inconvenience, it's the first time in over seven
years that something like this happens and we are already planning to put in
place additional security procedures to prevent this very unlucky and rare case
from happening again, in the meanwhile we will do all we can to help you to
solve any problem this inconvenience caused, please do not esitate to email
support@interferenza.com if you need help.

Best regards

--
Giancarlo Russo
Interferenza s.r.l.
http://www.interferenza.com
e-mail: g.russo@interferenza.com
phone: +39 0823 454016
fax: +39 02 700 404 191





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> So what are the chances that my data will be recovered safely or a
> percentage there of and what is your guesstimate time you will have definate
> answer the data should all still be there correct ?
>
> I do have the scripts I just don't have any information from the data
> folder , emaildata, and sub folders, or most importantanly the userdata
> folder.
>
> can these be recovered and moved to the new server ?
honestly, at this time an answer to this question cannot be done, all I can say
is that we are working on it, but I cannot do any guarantee regarding if and
when

> As I will definately be out of business without this data and my 13,000+
> member base will think this is my fault I fear .

the problem is that your software did not use a MySQL DB (or other sql
engine), in that case your data would not be lost now. of course what happened
was not your fault, but I remind I warned you about the software you were
using, it's not the best solution in the world
I'm really sorry

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Interferenza s.r.l.
http://www.interferenza.com
e-mail: g.russo@interferenza.com
phone: +39 0823 454016
fax: +39 02 700 404 191


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Oh wow, that is such a major bummer. Jay I hope for your sake this is fixed. Of course I don' blame you but there are some who will and that is sad. I will still be here when you get it up and running. Heck, it was just something fun to do, I don't take none of those paid things to serious, most I have made on the net was 2 $10.00 winnings at bingo in my whole 2 1/2 years online. Sorry rambling there, just wanted you to know your friends don't blame you nor are we mad at you.

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The Last full back up I have is from May 17th :bawl: I was trying to backup today when it crashed . So I don't know where that will leave me ??
I guess I will wait a day or so and see if they will be able to recover things . Before uploading from then
or I have considered opening up fresh and allowing a

$60.00 sign up bonus to previous members or re-running every Ad I have from May1st until yesterday if worst comes to worst . If I had the email list that would be 1 thing . but I don't :bawl:

I just trust the lord will provide the best solution and lead things in the right direction.


I should have done nightly back ups or atleast weekly .
But when they tell you there is no need to worry your backed up and the back up fails .

See where your At settin' here teary eyed like me :bawl:





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hi ya jay,
just letting you know that i am soooooo sorry about what happened and that i know it is not your fault and i WILL be here when you get your stuff up and running !! i love your site and i try to be as active as possible. i'm not going anywhere!!! andrea:)

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hey jay it will be alright i promise!!!!

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I was just setting here I have an Ad to run over at
http://cashpoints.jaydillar.com

and a Gold Member to get listed . I sure appreciate the feedback and hope some other members will join in and let their opinion be known


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Jay
All the very best to you in trying to get your great & popular site back on line! We Know You will DO IT!

Good Luck & God Bless!!


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HDD crash? "nice"...really...but still, who can blame YOU, Jay? Just keep up with the fine job you`re doin` When the site will be back, count me in Good luck!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Giancarlo Russo" g.russo@interferenza.com
To: "Jays-PaidMail.com" webmaster@jays-paidmail.com
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 52 AM
Subject: Re: password

> > well I guess there's nothing I can do but hope you have good news soon , If your
> > able to recover my files .
>
> I hope I will be able to give you good news...
>
> > do you or your company offer a better solution
>
> we implement the best we can on regular accounts, we will add an additional
> backup soon to prevent such problems from happening again, unless the next time
> the failure will affect the main disk, the backup disk... and the additional
> backup disk too (!!!)
>
> > or
> > recommend a place that has one for sale ?
>
> see above, I think the RAID 0+1 system was already a good solution, it in fact
> protected the data against the first disk crash, it could nothing against the
> second crash though..., so we will add a 3rd backup (too !) and make the
> service even better than it was before.
> I think that every hosting company would have had problems if such an unlucky
> and rare occurrence would have happened
>
> again, I'm sorry
> >


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IF YOU WANT TO TALK JUNE 24th HISTORY GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT ~

As I'm sure you did lose your True LOVE as they Couldn't STAND you and left you !!!





I now own 7 co located servers toatalling over $21,000.00
I now host over 100 domains myself and own 3 Paid 2 reads

Ilostmytruelove YOU ARE A LIAR and sorry to say it's people like you
that disgust me !!!!

Right this very MINUTE

I am Paying $65.00 per hour so Whinners like you can shut their STUPID
unEducated mouths !!

for a Program the entire debit load of the whole site was only $108.00

That's how I care for our members !

You are NOW officially NOT allowed to be a member of any our Sites
and I will make sure that you are NOT !!


===========================================

Go, Jay!!

btw, hope your son is okay.........will hold a good thought for y'all.

Just checked my account and is gone too, even if getting a paid email a little ago???

HERE IS JAY'S CRUDE ANSWER TO MY EMAIL FROM WHEN I FIRST STARTED THIS TOPIC:

"Fancy-CashEmail Admin" <webmaster@Fancy-CashEmail.com>

To :
"Caroline Chaudhary" <ilostmytruelove@hotmail.com>

Subject :
Re: Re:

Date :
Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:22:03 -0500

Reply Reply All Forward Delete Put in Folder...InboxSent MessagesDraftsTrash Can Printer Friendly Version

go right ahead A$$HOLE


----- Original Message -----
From: "Caroline Chaudhary" <ilostmytruelove@hotmail.com>
To: <webmaster@Fancy-CashEmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:10 PM
Subject: Re:


> why should I feel bad about writing this?
>
> you deleted my earnings and now you send out a paid link without fixing
your
> problem first?
>
> i'll just post this in the gp forum.
>
> Caroline
>
>
> >From: "Fancy-CashEmail Admin" <webmaster@Fancy-CashEmail.com>
> >To: <ILostMyTrueLove@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:34:12 -0500
> >
> >I hope you feel bad for writting this !
> >
> >Jay
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <ILostMyTrueLove@hotmail.com>
> >To: <support@fancy-cashemail.com>
> >Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:31 AM
> >
> >
> > > Message-Id: <E18172N-0001mE-00@host.jaydillar.com>
> > > Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:21:43 -0400
> > > X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it
> >with
> >any abuse report
> > > X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.jaydillar.com
> > > X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - fancy-cashemail.com
> > > X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [99 99] / [99 99]
> > > X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - host.jaydillar.com
> > >
> > >
> > > name: Caroline Chaudhary
> > >
> > > username: ILostMyTrueLove
> > >
> > > subject_type: Earnings/Points Question
> > >
> > > bquestion_type: put my money back into my account
> > >
> > > message_type: i just joined up yesterday and i did all your paid to
> >click
> >section. please put back all this money!! not a lot but heck, i clicked
all
> >the links!!
> > >
> > > now you send out a gptr email and you want me to click on it? for
what?
> >so you can delete that also??
> > >
> > > Caroline
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

RUDE QUESTION?

ALL IS ASKED WAS WHY BOTHER TO SEND OUT A PAID LINK IF NO EARNINGS ARE BEING POSTED ANYWAYS. demanding?? attempting to beat the filter , I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION.

personal attack and attempting to curse edited by moderator

[moderator note: message deleted by mod because of personal attacks and foul language]

Ok, I'm starting to feel completely off-topic now.

The gone account is on jayspaidemail....

HA HA HA ~

I paid you $5.00 PayPal for your $0.02

HA -HA

you accepted Payment !!

So count your blessings !

5 bucks for the $0.02 you had what ya complaining for LMAO

This email confirms that you sent $5.00 to ILostMyTrueLove@hotmail.com.

------------------------------
Payment Details
------------------------------

Amount: $5.00
Transaction ID: 1N0428653Y864443S
Subject: Fancy-CashEmail.com
Note: You are not welcome to be a member of this Program Here is a Full PayOut please stay away from Fancy-CashEmail.com

Jay
View the details of this transaction online at:
https://www.paypal.com/vst/id=1N0428653Y864443S


Thank you for using PayPal!

The PayPal Team



Your monthly account statement is available anytime; just log
in to your account at https://www.paypal.com/HISTORY. To
correct any errors, please contact us through our Help Center
at https://www.paypal.com/HELP.

Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address cannot be
answered. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and choose the
"Help" link in the footer of any page.

F OFF, I'LL CHECK PAYPAL NOW. AND IT WILL BE REFUNDED BACK TO YOU BECAUSE I DONT NEED YOUR TAINTED MONEY!!!!

i posted this long before you did here in the other thread ~lol

Caroline,
In your email to Jay...not once did I see you write anything like:

Hey Jay, there seems to be a problem with my account. Could you please look into it?

or

Hey Jay, I noticed that my earnings have disappeared from my account. Would you please check this out and let me know what's happening?

Instead you wrote things like:

"please put back all this money!!" (exclamation points you sound angry)

and

"now you send out a gptr email and you want me to click on it? for
what? so you can delete that also??" (extreme sarcasm)

You immediately jumped to the conclusion that he was cheating you on purpose instead of trying to find out what was happening.

The fact is that the TOTAL amount earned by ALL members to date at Fancy Cash is about $108.00. And now Jay is spending $65.00 per hour to have it fixed.
Does anyone else think that sounds like a cheat and a scammer?????

And as for JaysPaidMail, the ENTIRE MEMBERSHIP was affected!

Did you even once say to Jay: Hey, Is there anything I can do to help ya out?
NO>>>>>YOU DIDN"T! ALL YOU DID WAS WHINE!

I am surprised you manage to remain a member at ANY of the GPTR's out there. They all experience problems at one time or another.......are they ALL cheaters and scammers!?!?!?!?!?!?!

You are a very selfish individual. You really don't care about trying to help someone who is working hard to get back your earnings. All you care about is trashing that person.

Why don't you try to be helpful instead?

For anyone (no names mentioned) that may need some assistance in putting things in perspective:

http://www.angermgmt.com/

http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/anger.html

http://www.helpself.com/control.htm

http://www.polite.com/

http://sheepranch.home.mindspring.com/

Thanks for the links

OMG!


Wonder what happens if someone cuts Caroline off in traffic????? Does she write down their license and call the DMV to accuse them of cheating her out of her space on the road?



Caroline, you must be exhausted at the end of the day! If you get so angry over a few cents I wonder how you react to REAL problems.

Fact is: you could have resolved your problem privately with Jay.
YOU are the one who CHOSE of your OWN FREE WILL to come in here and scream SCAMMER!
There are consequences to every action...Geez...I learned that in like 1st grade!

By the way...I would really hate to play Monopoly with you

Huge *BIG* Hugzzz to {{{{{{{{{{{{{Jay, SherryGirl, and crew}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}!

Right....I have had enough of Ilostmytrueloves' mouth...I will not put up with her ranting and raving about everytime she MIGHT have lost a few cents....This from a women who GAMBLED her childrens college money on an interent scheme, where she could of lost the whole lot.....I am offended by the filth that comes from her mouth, and the continuing slander against programs........I can not believe that after her rants she is still able to be a member.......Of not only PTRE programs but this forum......She is bringing us all down.

Caroline....... personal attack edited by moderator

Jay

I loveyour programs
You are the best

Let all the whiners KISS something where the sun doesnt shine (where every that may be, lol)

Keep up the good work Jay, even with the glitches 99.99% of your members will stick with you and the 0.01 % must really try to get a new life.

Hugsssssss for you and Sherry and my prayers go to your little boy

Gina/LaRoCCa

I wonder if Caroline ever appeared on Judge Judy with the road rage segment?

I seriously hope this woman does not own a firearm. People like this can be dangerous.

lol I hope so she doesn't either

How pathetic. I am so sorry for your sad life and your children. I don't say this sarcastically, I'm very sincere. In this world today of war and snipers and gawd knows what all, I think it's very sad that you seem so angry and upset over something so slight it shouldn't even enter into your mind, much less cause this type of reaction.

This is great info........I think anyone with any {curse word edited} posts should look into this.


Im on my way!!

SOOOOOOOO not to change the subject or anything but how about them 49ers last night..LOL

Jesus, I hope she doesnt either...LOL

ilostmytruelove.. there are NO PERSONAL ATTACKS!!! sorry to everyone for these posts.. i can't keep track of them myself w/ work and school, etc.. if anyone sees posts like this, PLEASE pm ANY mod and send them the link!! i can't go around searching for the posts you're complaining about so please send us the link as well.. caroline, you HAVE been warned a few time and this has crossed the line.. i will be contacting the admin and forwarding this thread...

thank you
~cheese

Go cheese!

AAAAAHHHHHHHH......THE POWER OF CHEESE!!!!!!!!

(you guys remember those commercials?)

This thread is hilarious,

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i cannot believe this is even an issue!!!! jay and sherry have been trying their hardest to get this straightened out, have updated us at every possible opportunity, not to mention they DO have a life, and .................oh no i better shut up now before i have to smile and say cheese

oh yeah.. they still play them here everyonce in a while... "California Cheese" that's me!

I missed the 49ers game. Who did they beat senseless?

im sorry but i just had to put in my 2 cents i just checked my account and everything is just perfect not missing any cash or referrals jay is great never had a single problem with him or his ptr sites

I lost all my earnings too. Got an email from Jay saying hey, if you don't like it - unsubscribe. After Jay ragged on another list owner for losing earnings and referrals, you'd think he'd take more precautions.