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HelenB
But what's up with the ASCII pot leaves in emails lately??
angiestokes
What programs are you getting them at? I haven't received any of them. unsure.gif
ayekasong
Neither have I... that's really odd... blink.gif
lissaleone
I've seen them... just not sure which program it was. You're not a prude. It's an illegal drug and should not be promoted in a ptc email.
dmc123
QUOTE (lissaleone @ Feb 19 2004, 12:17 AM)
I've seen them... just not sure which program it was.  You're not a prude.  It's an illegal drug and should not be promoted in a ptc email.

I've seen them too, quite a few times. It's a leaf, I don't see anybody smoking, processing or offering to sell it.

I have no idea what it has to do with promoting a site mind you. laugh.gif
AlexRisa
Hey, I live in the Netherlands. biggrin.gif
And it's just a leaf, with 7 parts (the spiritual number).
And smoking it is probably less harmful than smoking commercial cigarettes.
And many parts of the hemp plant have been used for many purposes for millenia.

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It's a bit misshaped here, I was surprised it wasn't in the email. (because usually ASCII images are)
edited: I did not send the ad btw.
dmc123
Alex,

I'd probably edit out the image before you're asked to. wink.gif
pantaloonies
Hey, the hemp leaf has many uses besides being a drug, so it doesn't necessarily promote drug use...

For example, you could use it to make paper, clothing, and jewelry for pot heads! wink.gif laugh.gif

What any of that has to do with PTR? Nothing.
pantaloonies
QUOTE (lissaleone @ Feb 18 2004, 11:17 AM)
It's an illegal drug and should not be promoted in a ptc email.

It's not illegal everywhere rolleyes.gif

Not that I would know... unsure.gif wink.gif
Eldritch
QUOTE (risthe @ Feb 18 2004, 06:58 PM)
Hey, the hemp leaf has many uses besides being a drug, so it doesn't necessarily promote drug use...

For example, you could use it to make paper, clothing, and jewelry for pot heads! wink.gif laugh.gif

What any of that has to do with PTR? Nothing.

I thought it was a Maple Leaf, from Canada. Unless the message in that email specifically says: "Smoke pot, buy drugs" I wouldn't get so worked up about it. It's a drawing into which someone put work. It's more original than listing the last 100 emails from a site which has become the trend these days. Relax. Smoke some. smile.gif

But I'm from The Netherlands (great excuse). wink.gif

Eld.
michaellaskey
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 19 2004, 01:04 AM)
[/QUOTE]
I thought it was a Maple Leaf, from Canada. Unless the message in that email specifically says: "Smoke pot, buy drugs" I wouldn't get so worked up about it. It's a drawing into which someone put work. It's more original than listing the last 100 emails from a site which has become the trend these days. Relax. Smoke some. smile.gif

But I'm from The Netherlands (great excuse). wink.gif

Eld.

I dont see what the big deal is either. Whats the difference betwwen a harmless weed leaf and these bubble games and randomizers? Are they not all three illegal in the U.S? I dont see very many complaints about the later of the three unsure.gif
nut2
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 19 2004, 01:04 AM)
QUOTE (risthe @ Feb 18 2004, 06:58 PM)
Hey, the hemp leaf has many uses besides being a drug, so it doesn't necessarily promote drug use...

For example, you could use it to make paper, clothing, and jewelry for pot heads!  wink.gif  laugh.gif

What any of that has to do with PTR? Nothing.

I thought it was a Maple Leaf, from Canada. Unless the message in that email specifically says: "Smoke pot, buy drugs" I wouldn't get so worked up about it. It's a drawing into which someone put work. It's more original than listing the last 100 emails from a site which has become the trend these days. Relax. Smoke some. smile.gif

But I'm from The Netherlands (great excuse). wink.gif

Eld.

yes, you are a lucky one, being from a great, modern and really civilized country blink.gif (I feel envy...)
Eldritch
QUOTE (nut2 @ Feb 18 2004, 07:09 PM)
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 19 2004, 01:04 AM)
QUOTE (risthe @ Feb 18 2004, 06:58 PM)
Hey, the hemp leaf has many uses besides being a drug, so it doesn't necessarily promote drug use...

For example, you could use it to make paper, clothing, and jewelry for pot heads!? wink.gif? laugh.gif

What any of that has to do with PTR? Nothing.

I thought it was a Maple Leaf, from Canada. Unless the message in that email specifically says: "Smoke pot, buy drugs" I wouldn't get so worked up about it. It's a drawing into which someone put work. It's more original than listing the last 100 emails from a site which has become the trend these days. Relax. Smoke some. smile.gif

But I'm from The Netherlands (great excuse). wink.gif

Eld.

yes, you are a lucky one, being from a great, modern and really civilized country blink.gif (I feel envy...)

Yes, thank you. Sometimes I wish everybody would light(en) up. tongue.gif

Eld.
AlexRisa
QUOTE (dmc123 @ Feb 18 2004, 05:46 PM)
Alex,

I'd probably edit out the image before you're asked to. wink.gif

I like it tongue.gif
michaellaskey
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 19 2004, 01:23 AM)
Sometimes I wish everybody would light(en) up. tongue.gif

Eld.

I think the world would be such a nicer place if this happened.. tongue.gif wink.gif
Eldritch
Heaven forbid. smile.gif

Eld.
pantaloonies
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 18 2004, 12:04 PM)
QUOTE (risthe @ Feb 18 2004, 06:58 PM)
Hey, the hemp leaf has many uses besides being a drug, so it doesn't necessarily promote drug use...

For example, you could use it to make paper, clothing, and jewelry for pot heads!  wink.gif  laugh.gif

What any of that has to do with PTR? Nothing.

Unless the message in that email specifically says: "Smoke pot, buy drugs" I wouldn't get so worked up about it. It's a drawing into which someone put work. It's more original than listing the last 100 emails from a site which has become the trend these days. Relax. Smoke some. smile.gif

Lol, oh believe me I'm definitely not worked up about it. That was just my attempt at humor wink.gif
Eldritch
Uch, I had meant to quote dmc123, the post above yours. wink.gif

Eld.
hockey19girl
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 18 2004, 01:23 PM)
Yes, thank you. Sometimes I wish everybody would light(en) up. tongue.gif

Eld.

laugh.gif Thanks for that!

It's been so long... I almost forgot.
Still think I have some residuals stored up. laugh.gif
Pops out at the weirdest times!

tongue.gif

Michelle
Ocram
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 18 2004, 05:23 PM)
yes, you are a lucky one, being from a great, modern and really civilized country blink.gif (I feel envy...)[/QUOTE]
Yes, thank you. Sometimes I wish everybody would light(en) up. tongue.gif

Eld.

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I'm not even gonna start
nana2camren
QUOTE (hockey19girl @ Feb 18 2004, 01:32 PM)
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 18 2004, 01:23 PM)
Yes, thank you. Sometimes I wish everybody would light(en) up. tongue.gif

Eld.

laugh.gif Thanks for that!

It's been so long... I almost forgot.
Still think I have some residuals stored up. laugh.gif
Pops out at the weirdest times!

tongue.gif

Michelle

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I was expecting to see a complaint about something related to porn. I usually tend to agree with Helen, but I don't think this is anything to be bothered about.
Oh well, to each his own smile.gif


Lancer Sykera
Everyone does need to lighten up. I actually got a one dollar bill with a talk bubble coming from Washington's mouth saying "I grew hemp." It has been used for hundreds of years for stuff from clothing to rope. Marley fans in my school have pot leaf buttons on their bookbags. Seriously people, lighten up.

Oh, and one joint is many times more harmful than one cig. Marijuana not being harmful to you physically is an all too common misconception. I believe it's as much as 20 times worse, which is actually what a cigar is too.
cybertongue
Just out of curiousity, whats the crime rate in the Netherlands? If someone can compare it to the crime rate in the US, that would be great (I'm going to guess that it's less than the US by a buttload, but thought I'd ask... lol)
mvanantwerpen
lol It makes me NOT wanna join the prog. they are advertising
Eldritch
QUOTE (cybertongue @ Feb 19 2004, 01:04 AM)
Just out of curiousity, whats the crime rate in the Netherlands?  If someone can compare it to the crime rate in the US, that would be great (I'm going to guess that it's less than the US by a buttload, but thought I'd ask...  lol)

based on 6-year old figures (quickest I could find):

Adolescent Marijuana Use: nearly twice as much as in the US
Rate of Herione Use: US has 260% higher rate
Homicide rate (1995): US has 440% higher rate

Eld.

Edit: I got those numbers from a search on google
R92829
QUOTE (michaellaskey @ Feb 18 2004, 11:36 AM)
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 19 2004, 01:23 AM)
Sometimes I wish everybody would light(en) up. tongue.gif

Eld.

I think the world would be such a nicer place if this happened.. tongue.gif wink.gif

ROFL bet GPF would be a much calmer place rolleyes.gif
HelenB
LOL Folks....I'm not worked up about it....just can't quite figure out why a pot leaf is in my emails, and as a mom (albeit a mom who partook), I just don't think it's appropriate.
lucyfer
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 19 2004, 07:56 AM)
QUOTE (cybertongue @ Feb 19 2004, 01:04 AM)
Just out of curiousity, whats the crime rate in the Netherlands?? If someone can compare it to the crime rate in the US, that would be great (I'm going to guess that it's less than the US by a buttload, but thought I'd ask...? lol)

based on 6-year old figures (quickest I could find):

Adolescent Marijuana Use: nearly twice as much as in the US
Rate of Herione Use: US has 260% higher rate
Homicide rate (1995): US has 440% higher rate

Eld.

Edit: I got those numbers from a search on google

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Eldritch
QUOTE (HelenB @ Feb 19 2004, 02:13 AM)
LOL Folks....I'm not worked up about it....just can't quite figure out why a pot leaf is in my emails, and as a mom (albeit a mom who partook), I just don't think it's appropriate.

Well, like I said: I didn't even think it to be such a leaf but a Maple leaf. I think it's like a Rorshak (sp) test, you see what you want to see? Not trying to be cute here. If I were, I'd say: no matter how hard you try to shield children, they will find out sooner or later. Better to be up front about it and explain, than to never say anything, shield them and see them go do it/try it/fill-in-the-blanks anyway.

Children can't be shielded. That what is forbidden is most desirable. And there's always some kid who knows what it is to teach them.

Not to pee on anyone's parade here, Holland has had its fill of attacks on drug-policy, but at least we don't treat it like it doesn't exist. We confronted it head-on. And for that... yes, I am very proud.

Taboo = instant attraction.
Explaining = knowledge and to think twice

*steps off the box*

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Eld.

HelenB
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Eldritch
Why does that smiley always make me laugh? laugh.gif

Eld.
biidaaban
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 18 2004, 08:47 PM)
Why does that smiley always make me laugh? laugh.gif

Eld.

it pretty much says it all, one of my favorites LOL blink.gif
charmeyn
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 18 2004, 10:04 AM)
QUOTE (risthe @ Feb 18 2004, 06:58 PM)
Hey, the hemp leaf has many uses besides being a drug, so it doesn't necessarily promote drug use...

For example, you could use it to make paper, clothing, and jewelry for pot heads!  wink.gif  laugh.gif

What any of that has to do with PTR? Nothing.

I thought it was a Maple Leaf, from Canada. Unless the message in that email specifically says: "Smoke pot, buy drugs" I wouldn't get so worked up about it. It's a drawing into which someone put work. It's more original than listing the last 100 emails from a site which has become the trend these days. Relax. Smoke some. smile.gif

But I'm from The Netherlands (great excuse). wink.gif

Eld.

I'm from Canada, and that my friend is no maple leaf LOL
Enchanted
I thought it was a maple leaf too wacko.gif wacko.gif and thought it was pretty cute too blink.gif ph34r.gif

BTW, I like those little drawings I see in mails, a big smile, a doggy at a puter etc biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
trayse
those ascii pot leaves may be offensive to some ... but they certainly draw attention to the ad. wink.gif
pantaloonies
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 18 2004, 06:56 PM)
QUOTE (cybertongue @ Feb 19 2004, 01:04 AM)
Just out of curiousity, whats the crime rate in the Netherlands?? If someone can compare it to the crime rate in the US, that would be great (I'm going to guess that it's less than the US by a buttload, but thought I'd ask...? lol)

based on 6-year old figures (quickest I could find):

Adolescent Marijuana Use: nearly twice as much as in the US
Rate of Herione Use: US has 260% higher rate
Homicide rate (1995): US has 440% higher rate

Eld.

Edit: I got those numbers from a search on google

Have you seen Bowling for Columbine? Staggering stats are mentioned regarding gun-related deaths in the US versus other countries blink.gif
Eldritch
Yes, I saw it. I've seen some other stuff about the US that is scary as well. Let's not go there. Before we know it, we're stuck in a convo defending actions of a past that we had no say or do in. wink.gif

Eld.

astrangemix
QUOTE (michaellaskey @ Feb 18 2004, 09:36 AM)
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 19 2004, 01:23 AM)
Sometimes I wish everybody would light(en) up. tongue.gif

Eld.

I think the world would be such a nicer place if this happened.. tongue.gif wink.gif

hey man, totally agree

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Susy
QUOTE (charmeyn @ Feb 18 2004, 08:48 PM)
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 18 2004, 10:04 AM)
QUOTE (risthe @ Feb 18 2004, 06:58 PM)
Hey, the hemp leaf has many uses besides being a drug, so it doesn't necessarily promote drug use...

For example, you could use it to make paper, clothing, and jewelry for pot heads!? wink.gif? laugh.gif

What any of that has to do with PTR? Nothing.

I thought it was a Maple Leaf, from Canada. Unless the message in that email specifically says: "Smoke pot, buy drugs" I wouldn't get so worked up about it. It's a drawing into which someone put work. It's more original than listing the last 100 emails from a site which has become the trend these days. Relax. Smoke some. smile.gif

But I'm from The Netherlands (great excuse). wink.gif

Eld.

I'm from Canada, and that my friend is no maple leaf LOL

You got that one right. tongue.gif Same one we see out here in certain areas of Colorado. Course da fuzz gets it before the ummmm other partakers. wink.gif
sophieca
QUOTE (Enchanted @ Feb 19 2004, 04:34 AM)
I thought it was a maple leaf too wacko.gif wacko.gif and thought it was pretty cute too blink.gif ph34r.gif

BTW, I like those little drawings I see in mails, a big smile, a doggy at a puter etc biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Same here and mind you, I used to live on the canals in Amsterdam and sometimes when coming home from work in the evening there was that smell in the air ... you know wink.gif
Eldritch
Breathing it in too much and you'd end up in the canal itself, huh? Yeah, I've been there. Even IN the canal once or twice. wink.gif

Eld.
sophieca
Oh yes ... forgot what I wanted to say initially and been send back here ... I for one didn't see this leave as being an insult, a promotion for anything illegal or whatever as I am not expert in leaves and didn't see what it seems it meant.

Now, we all have different culture and mentalities, if it is disturbing/offending for some of you, please PM me or any other admin/global mod referring them to this post and we'll remove it asap.

Thanks

sophieca
administrator
sophieca
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 19 2004, 09:24 AM)
Breathing it in too much and you'd end up in the canal itself, huh? Yeah, I've been there. Even IN the canal once or twice. wink.gif

Eld.

Hmmmm, never ended up in the Canal lol and .... not going to tell the story of my youth here tongue.gif
goldenmarble
I think most people have seen an image of this particular leaf more than a few times in their lives. I don't see the big deal...
cashjob
Since i grew up In the Netherlands i am all to familiar with "the other leaf", so to get rid of any mix ups here is the real maple leaf (al be it a drawing smile.gif )
http://www.flowersandfauna.com/mapleleaf1.htm

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HelenB
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 18 2004, 07:47 PM)
Why does that smiley always make me laugh? laugh.gif

Eld.

It was meant to wink.gif
funkymotha
QUOTE (AlexRisa @ Feb 18 2004, 04:33 PM)
Hey, I live in the Netherlands. biggrin.gif
And it's just a leaf, with 7 parts (the spiritual number).
And smoking it is probably less harmful than smoking commercial cigarettes.
And many parts of the hemp plant have been used for many purposes for millenia.


Most people smoke it with tobacco therefore making it FAR more harmful than commercial cigarettes, its a myth that too many people believe.

It kills hundreds of brain cells everytime you smoke it!! youcould be senile at a very young age.

Darn! now where did I put them ciggies????
mvanantwerpen
QUOTE (funkymotha @ Feb 19 2004, 05:24 PM)
QUOTE (AlexRisa @ Feb 18 2004, 04:33 PM)
Hey, I live in the Netherlands.  biggrin.gif
And it's just a leaf, with 7 parts (the spiritual number).
And smoking it is probably less harmful than smoking commercial cigarettes.
And many parts of the hemp plant have been used for many purposes for millenia.


Most people smoke it with tobacco therefore making it FAR more harmful than commercial cigarettes, its a myth that too many people believe.

It kills hundreds of brain cells everytime you smoke it!! youcould be senile at a very young age.

Darn! now where did I put them ciggies????

Just because it may be "less harmful" to smoke pot doesn't make it legal wink.gif
MermaidMary
But showing an image of a PLANT that GROWS in the GROUND is not illegal! And as much as I'd like to think that what is legal and illegal is based on our best interests, and that laws are not enforced selectively....

I have to admit, I wondered about the leaf too (why it is suddenly appearing) and I'm not a parent, so I can't claim to understand it from a parent's perspective, but from my perspective I think it's a natural and pleasant image (and I'd love to visit the Netherlands some day, especially if I could catch a live performance of Golden Earring!)

Mary
ayekasong
QUOTE (mvanantwerpen @ Feb 20 2004, 07:07 AM)

Just because it may be "less harmful" to smoke pot doesn't make it legal wink.gif

It's "less harmful" but still harmful! LOL!
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