Thinking that too, $7000, but then the whole sale was fishy.
I thought I heard everyone's earnings had been/would be returned.

I think our earnings are elsewhere. I have checked it periodically since it came back, and my earnings have always been 0, and I think they all have. I understood that the earnings were removed, and all accounts starting at zero, and old earnings were kept track of outside of the system. That way they could be paid separately from any new earnings.

Just have to wait and see...

These old owners could have had 10 times what she paid for it, as was bid at ebay.
But then again aren't you glad Jay didn't get it

ouch...that seems to be a lot of money for a site with debts....

how many members i wonder?

You mostlikely seen it promoted my someone that has not bothered to take it down before the site whent down.

Over 44,000 members

How'd you find this out?

I talked with Caroline about it.

I am tired of hearing about this nonsense. You can wish for your earnings in one hand and hi in the other and see which one fills up first.


Join reality. You will never see dime one. Hope is a beautiful thing. Just not in this case.

shane

Caroline will send an email explaining everything once she gets back to her house.

Anyone who was around during the "sale" knows that Caroline is not the most honest or matrue businessperson. I cancelled my ECF account but I think she wont respect that and I will still get her spam.

Yet again ??

I thought so but everyone is evading that issue now.

My thoughts exactly jafu.

My understanding was that the old owners were paying the debt..after all Caroline paid around $7000 for the site...it had to go somewhere..

Caroline said she only paid a fraction of the final bid value. If you play with fire (cheat others) you get burned!

Wrong.. she did indeed promise she would pay the old earnings.
Of course, it was originally the first owners responsibility.. but once she said she would pay it.. It became her baby...
And she should be held to it.
so saying that she never said that is wrong.

I think it should be reality that when some one says they are going to do something that they do it.
The time for allowing people to back down on their promises is long gone.
I don't want to get in a you know what contest with you.
But how dare you say I am not part of reality.
Sir, reality is indeed what you make it.

Not true. There is only one reality. Everything else is called fantasy.

you hit that right on the nail head and I do not think we are ever going to see what we paid in I paid $30.00 but I know it is gone for good

I must have missed this one... has no idea she only paid a fraction of the price...

I think I'm giving up on this site.

i beg your pardon but I am not advertising exitcashflow.


the sites that you see being advertised are being advertised by members who cannot read english or are promoting themselves to help out with the debt.


if you read the side bar in the notes and links on the side, you will see that everything was set to default to the main account:

"Update
No hits will be credited to member account before re-launch. Any moneys generated through this site will be contributed towards existing payouts. Thank you for your understanding!"



Secondly, the old owners got into the site while i was away and I am still away. I'm on limited computer access now, although i am home tonight.

I'll be leaving again tomorrow morning at 7:30 am. I'm away on a family emergency.


All the old debt is safe. It's just now showing up for some reason and Julie is working on it.

Right now, hits are counting but the monies are not going up for some reason. We are working (or rather Julie has been and she's doing a darn good job considering the old owners didn't know what they were doing when they made the script) on the script now.

I have a copy of the old database before the old owners went into the script.

and I purchased the site on november 23, 2003. the site if they had given me the full script, would have been up and running by nov. 30th. but i was held on hold for over a month by the old owners.


I will say that I have paid for 3 months of hosting ($200 a month) with another month due on feb. 24th. If I cannot get the bugs out of the scripts by february 20th, I will be giving up.

all old earnings are safe.

i cant send out an email until the database is hooked into the memberbase.

if i could, i would.

part of the rotator script is missing. that will be worked on last.

excuse me but the bid was at over 15,700 when everyone started retracting the bid and that is what was meant by that and mlawrence knew that and could not prove anything.

he was warned in the gptfboycott to produce proof also but could not do so.


so please don't even go this way.


either way, i could care less what you are anyone else says.


bottom line:


if i cant get the script to work before the 20th, i will give up and lose my money for the ebay auction plus the 3 months of hosting.

excuse me again but i dont have time for this.

i never said i would restart under a new name.




the old owners have the database and scripts and files also. remember that.



11-16-2003 16:59:23 $-1,250.36 Payment Sent - LR
10-19-2003 08:15:32 $-1,305.27 Payment Sent - LR
09-22-2003 19:59:12 $-1,277.50 Payment Sent - LR
08-21-2003 20:33:09 $-1,311.43 Payment Sent - LR
07-20-2003 14:27:33 $-1,257.56 Payment Sent - LR


the above is from another acccount which I now have. they had no intentions since July to pay anyone, except for random members just so that people would continue to promote.

I know, but youre not the most honest person!!

I'll can wait until the 20th when you admit you never had any intention of paying anyone. Justice may take time, but it eventually comes.

prove to everyone how im not honest.

if you can't produce proof, then I'd advise you to stop with your personal attack on my integrity.

i wish i could see your ip address. i'd love to see if you are mlawrence in disguise who got banned from this forum and made a complete xxxx out of himself on the boycott forum by saying the same thing.

Ask a mod!!! You think there is only one person that knows what a liar you are?

You want to get into the details of the boycott forum where you showed how immature you are, please go ahead.... ml didn't look like the fool there - it was you.

Lets wait until the 20th when you close ECF and scam everyone and then we can bring this matter up again.

Hi Caroline

Thanks for clearing up about the rotator script. I haven?t been placing the URL for some time as I have a lot of sites to remove.

Regards
JoeM

if i dont relaunch ecf, that does not make me a scammer if i dont pay everyone.

i see you are only taking part of the quote to justify yourself. lol say and quote what you want. regardless lol that quote shows that they know that i'm innocent and therefore i wont bother answering you.


you still havent produced the proof that I'm a dishonest person.

and therefore, I'd advise you to shut your mouth because you are only talking out of the wrong end.

if i dont have the script from the old owners, then i cant launch and therefore there is nothing to scam anyone either.

quote taken from the ebay auction:

"We have made the appropriate changes and the website is now ready to be profitable for its new owners! The new scripts are designed to lessen the toll on the server. You also have a complete functioning backend allowing you to view all user stats and data.

You will receive the user database of 55,000 members, the domain (registered until 2005), and all of the scripts. We will take the profit from this sale to pay off old members.

All you have to do is customer support and cash the checks! "



so, bottom line is that if ecf cant LAUNCH, then I did not scam anyone because you cant launch a program that doesnt have all of the scripts.

and why should i keep paying 200 a month trying to fix something that cant be fixed.

if the site launches, then people get paid.

if the site cant launch because the old owners ripped me off, then that does not make me a scammer.

it makes the old owners scammers for scamming all of you and me.

i gave the old programmer permission to go into the files because he said that there were some scripts that had to be fixed.

i had no idea that they were going to mess it up and leave more of a mess.

1 member lost money because they took money for advertising from that member.

and had there not been another discussion about ecf, then I wouldn't have even checked because I was not at home.

the site was immediately taken offline by hosting when I saw that my old colors had come back and I knew something was wrong.

I trusted them to just make the changes. they knew i was called away for family emergency.

all p/w's are now changed and variable CPM is in place. but we still can't get the monies to add. the hits show up but no money is being credited.

a new getpaid file was created.

i'm trying to get in touch with the old programmer because they promised me all the files and scripts in a zipped file.

over 30 days has passed. it's almost 3 months (feb 23). I have no idea about legal but I really and truly am trying hard to relaunch.