BaroqueXena
Oct 11 2002, 03:24 PM
I'm posting this at the request of funkymotha
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Hi all my funky dudes and dudettes
Unfortunately I have been FORCED to change the Terms of Service (
During the redemptions it came to light that there are many unscrupulous cheaters.
I cannot pay out any more redemptions as promised. These cheaters were signing up clicking a few links, getting paid and unsubscribing then signing up again clicking the same links and hoping to be paid again.
If this continued not only would they receive your money but my personal money too, there would be nothing left to pay out
Some of you are placing paid links on forums for others to click.
You are paid to read EMAILS not just click the links!! It is cheating !!
The only way forward is to make the new payout $5 ... it is still low and is acheivable in a short time due to the amount of emails we send/going to send.
The TOS on the site is now being changed
This hurts me as much as you, possibly more ... my only hope now is that it is hurting the cheaters even more
Links will now only last for 3 days ... this is another attempt to deter them.
I welcome your opinions, suggestions good or bad I will read, consider and reply to each one.
Although rude ones will be promptly deleted!
I would just like to thank those who have supported TMC honestly and fairly and I am very very sorry that it has come to this for you, due to some silly people who do not read the Terms of Service before they sign up
I cannot think of any more to say .. I am way too upset
tipsy
Oct 11 2002, 03:39 PM
I agree they have to do something.. 5.00 really isn't that much to earn.. even without referrals it's achievable.. I feel sorry that they have cheating problems.. They are a good program
GRL VenCap
Oct 11 2002, 03:52 PM
$5 is ok I guess
I'm just glad I got paid the first time around. Cuz I won't reach payout again til August 2003!
It's true! It's true!
wirp
Oct 11 2002, 07:43 PM
Noooo!!!
this hurts me too much
im planning to redeem my 45 cents and i will have $10 !!!!!
argghhhh
FamilyAffair
Oct 11 2002, 09:09 PM
This is bad news even though I only earned 20 cents, never request payment.

The only reason I joined is because no minimium payout, now the only option for me is to quit this program!
martin_venator
Oct 12 2002, 03:00 AM
I was lucky... I received my cents... but I will stop because I subscribed only for no minimum payout... I could accept 50 cents minimum payout, but 5 dollars is really to much...
Martin_Venator
funkymotha
Oct 12 2002, 03:58 AM
I still may consider lowering so please don't all be hasty.
I still have to consider the majority of my members .. if you are a member send me an email to webmaster@themailclub.com and voice your opinion.
Afterall as I keep saying it is you that run it not me ... I just send the emails and squish the cheaters.
FamilyAffair
Oct 12 2002, 04:23 AM
QUOTE (martin_venator @ Oct 12 2002, 05:00 PM)
I was lucky... I received my cents... but I will stop because I subscribed only for no minimum payout... I could accept 50 cents minimum payout, but 5 dollars is really to much...
Martin_Venator
Same here... from $0 to $5 is too much. 50 cents is still obtainable by non-builders.
cy_
Oct 13 2002, 09:06 AM
Many members said the $5 payout was too high so heres the latest from the webmaster....
" I have come up with these options, YOU will need to vote on them
1. It stays at $5 and I can send many links daily so you can reach payout quicker
2. I charge 25 cents for each redemption with a no minimum payout (this will mean relying on advertisers links only)
3 $1 straight payout ( relying on advertisers links)
IF option 2 or 3 is chosen I will have to tighten up on inactive members whether they have a downline or not, links will only be available for 3 days, paid to signup offers will not be paid through e-gold but to your account (that goes for all options) "
So, let's stop moaning and make our opinions known, people. There has to be a happy medium here - so let's give it some thought and then make our choice
funfancies
Oct 13 2002, 09:12 AM
$1.00 sounds good. Registered and could not get back to poll. Hope this will suffice for vote. user andee@c2i2.com
adbuser
Oct 13 2002, 10:56 AM
same here, couldn't get back to poll to vote, and I vote for $1 payout.
telflonmail
Oct 13 2002, 01:18 PM
How about a different twist....
Leave the $5 cashout, but...
...allow no minimum payout once every 3 months by a member...with the first being after 3 months. That way, those that don't have referrals (or few referrals) need to stay active will get payout 4 times a year, even in the drought of paid email seasons...
...just a thought...
martin_venator
Oct 13 2002, 01:29 PM
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...allow no minimum payout once every 3 months by a member...with the first being after 3 months. That way, those that don't have referrals (or few referrals) need to stay active will get payout 4 times a year, even in the drought of paid email seasons...
Very good idea...
Martin_Venator
funkymotha
Oct 13 2002, 01:46 PM
yes very good idea ... or maybe even spot cash outs for loyal clickers. I may do that no matter the payout.
sgtswife
Oct 15 2002, 02:33 PM
QUOTE (martin_venator @ Oct 13 2002, 07:29 PM)
QUOTE
...allow no minimum payout once every 3 months by a member...with the first being after 3 months. That way, those that don't have referrals (or few referrals) need to stay active will get payout 4 times a year, even in the drought of paid email seasons...
Very good idea...
Martin_Venator
sounds like a great idea. I have few if any refs and I can
deal with that arrangment
Leah
Oct 15 2002, 02:49 PM
Very good idea telflonmail, every one win that way!
poco75
Oct 15 2002, 08:25 PM
That sounds like a good idea to me also. I have no referrals and I know that it will take me a little longer than most to get a $5.00 payout but whatever is the best for the site so that it will be able to continue, I agree with all the way. And I also want to say Thank you for keeping all of us informed and allowing us to vote and taking all of this in consideration in your decisions.It is so nice to belong to a site where the webmaster takes time out to really consider all of their members.
ecco
Oct 19 2002, 01:55 AM

I'm so sorry. I deleted my account before see this.
Juliette
Nov 7 2002, 10:15 PM
hmm typical I see the downline thread with no minimum before I see this

I have such a hard time getting referrals and no doubt it will take forever to reach $5.00.. I may be forced to quit what I just signed up to lol
funkymotha
Nov 15 2002, 05:01 PM
Its now back to no minimum due to myself and the members coming to a compromise.
GRL VenCap
Nov 15 2002, 05:07 PM
QUOTE (funkymotha @ Nov 15 2002, 11:01 PM)
Its now back to no minimum due to myself and the members coming to a compromise.
no minimum again! Woot!
so when is next payday!
michael
Nov 15 2002, 06:05 PM
Thank you very much funkymotha. I can now cash out without waiting a few years.
GRL VenCap
Nov 15 2002, 06:13 PM
QUOTE (michael @ Nov 16 2002, 12:05 AM)
Thank you very much funkymotha. I can now cash out without waiting a few years.
It's monthly right!
michael
Nov 15 2002, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (GRL VenCap @ Nov 15 2002, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (michael @ Nov 16 2002, 12:05 AM)
Thank you very much funkymotha. I can now cash out without waiting a few years.
It's monthly right!

That is how I read it in the email. Once a month payout.
GRL VenCap
Nov 15 2002, 06:17 PM
QUOTE (michael @ Nov 16 2002, 12:15 AM)
QUOTE (GRL VenCap @ Nov 15 2002, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (michael @ Nov 16 2002, 12:05 AM)
Thank you very much funkymotha. I can now cash out without waiting a few years.
It's monthly right!

That is how I read it in the email. Once a month payout.
sounds good! stop those peeps from requesting pennies daily!
michael
Nov 15 2002, 06:25 PM
Yea hopefully funky will have more time sending out emails instead of paying out one cent whenever somebody requests it.
GRL VenCap
Nov 15 2002, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (michael @ Nov 16 2002, 12:25 AM)
Yea hopefully funky will have more time sending out emails instead of paying out one cent whenever somebody requests it.
Exactly...funky dude!
funkymotha
Nov 15 2002, 06:46 PM
Rofl!!
well it will be monthly 'hopefully' ... last month I paid out to those who requested .. but this month because of the change in scripts I have to wait for the debits to be made in the accounts that I already paid, otherwise I will be paying them twice and not enough to pay everyone else.
Soooo I have to wait for John to fix it then I will add the redemption buttons and people can request as we did before the cheaters started playing funny buggas with me.
And yeah it will be better so I can spend more time finding advertisers and sending out links
GRL VenCap
Nov 15 2002, 06:51 PM
funky dudette...we look forward to it! Best Regards to TMC...
any chance lowering payout for SMC is that what it's called...can't remember!
funkymotha
Nov 16 2002, 09:21 AM
aww thanks dude! hehehe
hmmmm SCE SendCashEmails lol geeesh its only $5 payout ... I've paid 3 members and just paid the first one twice ... well I'm just about to login to paypal to do it actually.
GRL VenCap
Nov 16 2002, 12:39 PM
QUOTE (funkymotha @ Nov 16 2002, 03:21 PM)
aww thanks dude! hehehe
hmmmm SCE SendCashEmails lol geeesh its only $5 payout ... I've paid 3 members and just paid the first one twice ... well I'm just about to login to paypal to do it actually.

hi what's SendMailCash then?
funkymotha
Nov 16 2002, 01:28 PM
dunno but I had a look and thats $35 payout .. no wonder you asked to have it lowered lol
GRL VenCap
Nov 16 2002, 01:40 PM
QUOTE (funkymotha @ Nov 16 2002, 07:28 PM)
dunno but I had a look and thats $35 payout .. no wonder you asked to have it lowered lol
LOL that must be it
funkymotha
Nov 16 2002, 04:48 PM
hmmm you sayin you ent a member of SCE ?? tsk! shame on you
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