If you have been paid recently as a nutecasemail member, you are one of a select few.

He only pays a percentage of members that reach payout; that is the way he saves money.

He has not paid me my 24.84 in months and after several polite and discreet emails; he sent me a reply wherein he threatened to delete me and "fined" me 10.00 So it seems, I happen to be one of the unlucky many who will never be paid.


So it is time to start an investigation and so far I have learned from a simple check the following:

He deleted about 5,000 members unfairly a month ago including me. He also promised the exact same thing to the members who remained that he promised when payout was changed to $10 but failed to deliver. They were peanuts .25 instead of .1 and paid links 1 cent instead of .25

Time to say BYE BYE BYE for the first time me thinks...........

I can't comment on anything other than i've been paid several times by both nutcasemail and searchlikecrazy and I've never had to wait.

I've been paid by NutCase, PEFTGWN, and MrCrazy's Club.

And I agree with Jazmyni here... How do you even know how much he makes per year with his sites in order to determine whether he should be paying taxes?

I reckon you need a hobby.

Ya know what laurabeth.......Heres the funny thing.

I personally think you just have a person issue with some of us, me, Randy, Cynthia

Almost all your posts at the forum is in complaints. over 75% are in threads that have to do with Randy, Cynthia or I.


Now other then the other facts I just poked threw your post above which is NOT true most of the things you said.......

I did some diggy myself

WHy are you always defending Randy Jazzmyi? If having didn't name register at different domain name is OK, then why would you WM call members a cheater for not filling out their full name or complete address. Randy has deleted many members in the past due to this reason. LOOK AT HIM! What a hipocrite. So now should we all call RANDY a SCAM because he is impersonating someone else? When registering for a domain name don't you have to use your own name and address for prove of idenity.(Well I regiter my domain through a credit card). I don't think anyone here can stand here and depend RANDY. See what I mean? Webmaster think they can do anything. Delete members because they use a fake information or not complete when they are committing the same act. I think is a pathetic. WHy are you people still supporting him. What he sho

Hold on, the issue here is NOT that people get paid by him but that he opens sites with different identities.

Why do so many threads turn into "they're OK, they paid me" threads?

This guy has different identities, deletes people for no reason, increases minimum because through his own admission cannot afford to pay, loses peoples downlines (I lost over 300), says downlines are lost because if you lose a direct referral you also lose their downline, (CC scripts don't do this) "fines" people for asking for their long overdue payment, puts loads of arrogant rules on his sites, deletes people for speaking their mind, deletes 5000 members to decrease debt and so on, so on, so on.

Is this guy running a trusted reliable program?

I don't think so, in fact no-one knows exactly who he is do they!

Wasn't there a notice on the home page of nut case that he was going to close down the sign up page too?

Just in case anyone cares, there is no such thing as Revenue Canada anymore. They are officially CCRA, or Canada Customs and Revenue Agency, and have been for over 5 years. Anyone contacting them would know this, or would learn it after speaking to them, so I highly doubt that this person ever spoke to them. Not to mention that it is almost impossible to call them about your own taxes, let alone someone else's.

i'm sure that's very true, but luckily for me I haven't owed anything, so far....lol

I'd like to know where it was established he changed identities???

Personally, I KNOW this laurabeth person is a [insert adjective synonymous with psycho] person when it comes to pursuing people she doesn't like. I've seen it in other threads under her current "incarnation".

Although it's a fallacy in logic to assume that THIS accusation is as crocky as her PREVIOUS assertions about others have been, my money is on the idea that her teapot is full of holes.

Everything jazmyni said about Reveue Canada, tax numbers, etc. above is right on. And no they would not give out information to just anyone. Even is you have the right name and the SIN number, you would be asked for birthdate too.
I still call it Revenue Canada The new name is too big a mouthful.

Hello everyone,
I'm not going to get in the middle of anyone's fight, disagreements with others or taking sides with anyone, clearly there are those I agree with and those I don't... bot I do want to say this about Mr. Land... I know for a FACT that the Randy Land address on the bottom of the first post IS his REAL address... How do I know this? Christmas a year ago, when I first met Randy, he had actually physically mailed me a christmas card with a Canda lottery scratch off ticket, and on the card in his hand writting is the same address....

I have several different profiles I use for business purposes, and I also have an EIN (Employer ID number for the Federal Government of the USA) number for my business, I didn't have to have a certain amount of assets or capital in order to get this anyone can, Now I don't know about the laws in Canada or the guidelines for registering for any business licenses etc there, but I know that in the USA if u make under a certain amount in yearly income for a business you may still consider your home office a business and not be liable to have a license nor pay the IRS, NOT that I condone this practice or anything... in all fairness anyone declaring employer status should get a license even if NOT necessary etc... that protects everyone u and your clients on and off line etc... so If Mr. Land wants to protray himself as 1000 different ppl or have a million different alias thats totally on him, he is the only one that's responsible for his actions and or business ethics or whatever, just as all individuals that live and breath.. however, if anyone thinks that they have been wronged, its perfectly ok to report any thing that believe thats illegal or wrongful....

Now, As I have said I'm not taking sides with anyone or any thing else.,.. I just wanted to say that I can prove that the one address IS for real... and that he may have his personal reasons for all the other stuff....

Have a GREAT day!!

does anyone know if he has a forum or something? i have tried to get in touch with him through the sites contact page a few times and am unable

Hyper,

iF MR Randay Land here has his own reasons for registering different domain name with different names then don't you think ALL or MOST members of the PTR business has their own reason for not using their personal info when signing up to his program? Why doesn't he give them a second chance or why would he even care if they are using FAKE NAME? Because he himself use them too!

ridiculous,


Note: I live in canada too but do you know how easy it is for me to get a USA address? There are many places or company that would offer to give you a shipping address if you paid a fee. (Not saying he is doing this just an example)

Domain registrants are required to give accurate registration information.

I can't say positively but I vaguely remember reading or hearing something along the lines of, Randy managed one or both of those ptr sites. That very well could be why there would be more than one name involved.

I like Randy and Nut-Case, I've been paid 3 or 4 times. When I first became disabled and unable to work, Randy gave me some darn good advertising prices, all without proof and on my word alone. I am greatful to his generousity. Even tho I like Randy and the program, I have to question some ethics. My husband cashed out 12/31/03, and I cashed out 1/3/04, on 1/5/04 I received payment, my husband has yet to recieve his. My husband has not written to Randy on this because I have no doubt he will receive it at some point, I nor my husband feel Randy is a scam. Only difference between the two accounts is, I buy advertising. To me this is not fair, not only in this situation, but to many many people that do not buy advertising.

And...before anyone hollers scammer on my part, we have seperate computers and seperate IP's. I also think the word scam this and scam that, exposed, etc...are thrown around a bit too liberally and all without solid proof. I have seen some ptr webmasters do some pretty shady stuff, funny thing is for some reason they are some of your favorite webmasters, you just haven't seen it yet.

Does anyone realize that when you go to a forum and post before you know absolute truth, that not only do webmasters get a bad reputation, but that quite possibly you could really honestly and truly be hurting someones feelings? Just how good does it feel to make someone else cry?

What is this about a $10 fine? That's a new one to me.

She might...she's banned

Told you about the personalities merging issues Watch we will have a newbie member here again soon for anohter 25 posts

Aren't you all just sick of trawling through a post, to discover that it's a totally unfounded (or unsubstantiated) bash fest?

Geez I thought there was something interesting going on.

Gonna stop reading the complaints folder, who knows who is being *totally* honest these days?

In fact, just in case I ever get deleted, here are my rants (you have to be prepared, isn't that what the scouts say?)

1. I DID NOT click a cheat link
2. My User Info is correct, I do live in the north pole, how I get my adsl connection is my business.
3. Webmaster send me RUDE and THREATING EMAILS (Whoops did I forget to mention I slandered them for a month at GPF and then verbally abused them by email??)
4. Webmaster deleted me for NO REASON. I did not request payout everyday for 3 months, eventually driving them round the twist and promting them to slam their fist on the delete button.
5. SCAM SCAM SCAM!! NO SITE!! (What do you mean they sent an email saying they are changing servers - what kind of excuse is that??)

Come on serial complainers, cut and paste these to save yourself time. yes I REALLY am that generous

Maybe these are just AKAs he uses---Also Known As, I mean come on. The guy has been around forever within the PTR, worked on a site even with Jazmyni. Don't you think she would know if the guy is real or not. Right now the guy is just having a rough time, like most of the sites right now. 2003 was a rough year for a lot of people not just the WMs or program owners.

He is known to pay just as Jazmyni is, give the guy a break. I really think it is unfair to post such a complaint as this, when the person cannot even come in here and explain theirself on why his domains are registered as such. Do I know him, NO....then again I do not know any of you either, yet still find fun in chatting or having discussions with you all.

Obviously the person who initially posted had a beef, but some of their information should have been looked further into before SCAM was shouted.

JMHO

all I can say is...I am waiting payment now, but reade a week or 2 ago that he hopes to have all payments done by Feb 15th....and, I have been paid...both at nutcase, and grat whit north....I have faith...and, I believe the $10 fine can be found in the TOS???...I could be wrong on where to find it, but yes, I have read that, also....have a great day all