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kglaser
Stay away from 1cent-100dollar-email, guys. It was one of my favorite sites until just today, when I found I'd been deleted from the database. My crime? Turns out I was giving them "negative publicity". Huh?!??

OK, well judge for yourself:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...pic=134001&st=0

I was really SCATHING, huh? Asking the opinions of others (many of whom agreed with me)--and those @#@$$%^ webmasters at 1C1$ took the advice of me and other people in that thread, to better their program--and then DELETED ME and ANOTHER PERSON VOICING OUR OPINIONS.
Did I send them death threats? Did I insult them? Did I cheat? No!!

This is a blatant example of unscrupulous and underhanded WM's taking advantage of a very ambiguous clause in their TOS to delete people. Watch what you say there...it's a dictatorship, and your opinion had better be favorable, or adios to you.

Sorry, I'm so angry...nothing like this has ever happened to me before but this is yet one more sign of this industry heading downhill fast--people like this. They can keep my lousy $3 (which I honestly earned--for THEM, as it turns out)...it's a small price to pay for going to every forum I can find and telling everyone just what sort of "businessmen" these are. mad.gif
Eldritch
I am the other member that has been deleted and I second every word that is being said here.

Eld.
hapax
That was a stupid move.....which is worse, the little bit of shared curiousity into the -50 cent banner, which hardly affected my opinion of them program, or the fact that they unfairly removed your account and now your going to let EVERYBODY know how crappy their program is.

glad i didnt waste my time with them
girrl88
hmmm, what i find really interesting is the fact that they do not have the gag order written into the FAQ, TOS or privacy policy.

kglaser
Somehow I don't think they got rid of their little "publicity" problem by deleting us, Eldritch. wink.gif
rehder7
Do NOT join this program if you wish to have a fair, fun, profitable program to work with. The underhandedness of being forced out because of a few simple posts in a forum after being confronted by cheat banners is cowardly and stupid. I had just become more of a fan of the program after they dropped their minimum payout to $10 which is highly unusual. However, after their latest tactics, I encourage everyone to stay as far away from this program as possible.

And I'm spent. mad.gif
Eldritch
QUOTE (girrl88 @ Feb 3 2004, 11:04 PM)
hmmm, what i find really interesting is the fact that they do not have the gag order written into the FAQ, TOS or privacy policy.

It is open to interpretation, I guess. From their TOS:

QUOTE
Should any instances of fraud, system abuse, or any type of activity deemed to be inappropriate or illegal by 1cent-100dollar-email.com be detected it may result in member termination and possible legal action.


I have, BTW, submitted a complaint to GPTboycott.com.

Eld.
girrl88
QUOTE (kglaser @ Feb 3 2004, 04:05 PM)
Somehow I don't think they got rid of their little "publicity" problem by deleting us, Eldritch. wink.gif

LOL

funny thing is that the orig thread actually made the program sound good. the fact that the WM changed what was being discussed could have brought more members in but instead they're choosing to push potential members away by deleting you guys.
kglaser
I submitted them for boycott, too.
And while I will restrain myself in this forum and not cross-post every time they are brought up which is what I'd like to do because I'm freakin' angry, I will instead pursue a more methodical campaign to expose these people for what they are.

Looks like it's workin' so far. smile.gif
lori15370
I'm sorry to hear you were deleted mad.gif

This is quite typical of the ptr programs anymore....it just goes to show you the UNPROFESSIONALISM that exist in this industry. mad.gif

christiana25
Do you have an email from them saying the reason you were deleted?

If this is what happened really, then Iam happy Iam not a member there and will never become one. This is a direct violation of the human freedom of expression.
Eldritch
My request to them, to disclose the reason:

Today I found myself an unwelcome guest at your program. I would very much like to hear the reason for this treatment. I cannot remember offending you nor can I remember clicking one of the 'traps' set up to catch the rude. Please clarify this for me.

Kenny.


Their (unsigned) reply:

nevertheless be specified under banner "-50 cents", you aroused a bad public opinion. read terms. your account can't be recovered. but you can rejoin if you want.

I think it's quite unfair to people with slow connections. For some, the image does not appear or it takes long to load. I think the Text underneath should also say "cheat link" or something to that effect.

they only see 50 cents blaring at them (and don't register the minus sign).


Eld.


lelliott69
I am a member of that program and I think what happened to you is both unfair and unprofessional. So if owner of said program is lurking about - the program being 1 Cent-100Dollar-Email. These two ppl were only making suggestions and you DELETED them!!!! If you don't like what I have to say - then just knock yourselves out. I'll be sure not to let the door hit me on the way out...
Eldritch
You know... the worst of it is that they actually adjusted the banner. And then deleted us. wink.gif

Eld.
kglaser
QUOTE (Eldritch @ Feb 3 2004, 05:48 PM)
You know... the worst of it is that they actually adjusted the banner. And then deleted us. wink.gif

Eld.

Actually, this part I find hilarious. laugh.gif
Eldritch
It has an ironic ring to it, doesn't it? wink.gif

Eld.
rehder7
Just out of curiosity, how much did each of the cancelled members have in their accounts? I had only $3.80 in personal earnings so I'm not terribly torn up, even though that is 380 emails from them since they are all one cent.
Eldritch
I had joined 2 days ago and had $0.43
Rediculously little for such a fuss but it has become a matter of principle now.

Eld.

P.S. kglaser mention $3 in the starting post of this thread. So all this for the bargainprice of $3.43! Call Now! <g>
kglaser
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
LOL Eldritch
hiredgoon
I hope these people don't run real businesses they'd be in for a big shock then.
Bad publicity? Where? Their TOS as some people have already pointed out is ambiguous and only really benefits themselves in situations like this.

There's no room for the unreasonable insensitive crybaby in any business, it was a suggestion and discussion as far as I could see. I receive 'concerns' everyday and if I was to bash someone in the head because they were vocal I'd be a fool... of course I would implement their suggestion first laugh.gif

I'm not a member there and would never have joined regardless of seeing this post or not but you have my support.

HG
No1duckie
Isn't the owner a frequent flyer here at this forum?
kglaser
I don't even know who the owner is...that would be really interesting to know.
Eldritch
Their whois shows 2 Koreans.

Eld.
freecashspace
QUOTE (kglaser @ Feb 4 2004, 07:15 AM)
I submitted them for boycott, too.
And while I will restrain myself in this forum and not cross-post every time they are brought up which is what I'd like to do because I'm freakin' angry, I will instead pursue a more methodical campaign to expose these people for what they are.

Looks like it's workin' so far. smile.gif

How ridiculous that two members have been deleted for voicing their opinions about a cheat link.

I thought it was bad enough that some programs have rules SPECIFICALLY against voicing any negative opinions of their program, but now it seems we've got one using the old "we'll delete you for any reason we want" clause. Sad.

Just keep in mind that limits to freedom-of-speech are all around us, so be sure that your "methodical campaign to expose these people for what they are" doesn't violate the GPF rules against stalking and harassment.

Cheers,

Wil
mcf
Well you guys were the first 2 posters in that thread. Wonder if this happened to the next few too ??

They have made it clear in the reply to eldritch that it was about that thread.

I think I will unsub. It has such a high payout anyway.

Good work kglaser !! Expose them for the *#@*#*@ they are.

Down with 1-100.
BobbiePolk
QUOTE (girrl88 @ Feb 3 2004, 04:04 PM)
hmmm, what i find really interesting is the fact that they do not have the gag order written into the FAQ, TOS or privacy policy.

I personally do not think any PT programs should have a gag order in it, to a point...
If someone wants to say something about a program they are involved with, be it good, bad or indifferent, they should be allowed to do so without their membership being threatened or deleted. It could be that they are only ranting for a day....how many people have ever been angered and said something they really didn't mean to begin with, or actually meant it at the time, and after a spell, things look different to them?
I can see the TOS stating that you cannot send anything in personal emails that is nasty to the PO~WM, but if someone wants to say something about a program, or if they have a gripe, one should be able to voice their opinions....FREELY!
I haven't felt the need to go spouting nasty feelings about any of the programs I am in, yet....yet of course being the operative word here. But if I get angry or upset about something and feel the need to share it, I shouldn't have to be afraid of losing my account. That is just plumb dumb. rolleyes.gif
I have ranted and raved a few times about programs that have closed up on me, but not any of the active ones I am in.
Restricting what a person can say about a program is not right, if the PO~WM feels they have to delete someones account for them voicing their opinion, maybe they really have something to hide...JMO here.
People aren't stupid. Just because someone calls a program a scam, doesn't mean everyone is going to jump ship and flee, most sensible people check it out for themselves or want viable proof before they jump ship. So why shouldn't someone be able to say something against a program without being deleted??? blink.gif
mcf
Just unsubbed.
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kglaser
WOO WOO mcf!! :hi five:
biggrin.gif cool.gif
justforfun
Sounds like another power happy PO... I would think they'd have more important things to do than hunting down reasons to get rid of honest members... For any PO to delete a member for their OPINION is pure wrong. I know that not all countries encourage the absolute freedom of speech, but by definition an OPINION is not right or wrong-it is just one person's thought process. I just looked at the site for the first time and see it is nearly 9000 members. Isn't it pretty new? Will it be the next one changing terms due to their unexpected initial growth? (I'm not a member-they can't delete me HAHA!)
CTaylor
"reachtop" (possible program owner??) has written about you both in the support folder. (referring to kglaser and eld.)

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=131643




This whole thing is so pathetic. Why can't he/she suck it up and come in here to respond? Hmmm.....

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I'm so glad I never signed up for this program, and I'm so sorry for the two of you!

Edited to say 2 things. 1. Scroll all the way to the end of the thread; and 2. So, did they reinstate you both? I was confused by this part. blink.gif
atall
sorry to hear that mad.gif
Judy03
OMG. The info this guy is posting about some previously deleted members should be edited.
I am sooooooooooooo glad I didn't join this program!!
jake19
After reading that info in his support folder I am wondering if the whole reason he has deleted you two is because HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH!

Sorry for yelling but this is becoming a real issue for me... they send out cheat links to find out if we can speak english when they can't even speak it properly themselves.

That whole post he made about why he deleted you both does not make a bit of sense to me. It is gibberish! I think he understood enough of your original posts to know that you were talking about his site and his cheat link but not to understand what you were saying about it. Good grief!

I am about ready to start sending emails to POs before I join with an english test for them! I am tired of receiving 'admin' mails that don't make any sense.
kglaser
jake, I think you really have something there. Clearly, this person did not understand what I was saying, because he posted this about me:

original
"Do not click -50 cent banner". Under it the text says "-50 cent banner"
your lie
"Do not click--50 cent banner". Under it the text says "50 cent banner"

You just sink lower and lower, don't you, "reachtop"? You accuse me of lying and you post your rendition of what I originally posted. Clearly you need to reread it if you thought I was lying...I was saying that it could be read as "banner--50 cents" (which is, indeed, how I first read it); you are taking the above quote completely out of context. How about putting my whole post there and letting people judge for themselves? Nah, that'd be impartial, and might make you look bad. Can't have that, can we, so accuse me of lying. You really are sickening.
kglaser
And another thing, I reread his gibberish "support" post after some of the red glare cleared away from my eyes, and I have to laugh: This guy is accusing Eldritch and myself of single-(double?-)handedly changing their whole program? Whoo-eee, Eldritch, we are really powerful...we should run for President or something! laugh.gif

Oh, and I can rejoin if I want...Um, gosh, lemme think about that and I'll get back to you when heck freezes over. laugh.gif tongue.gif
akvancleave
QUOTE (jake19 @ Feb 3 2004, 09:37 PM)
I am about ready to start sending emails to POs before I join with an english test for them!

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No1duckie
What gives this PO the right to post all of that personal info?
wvufan68
Ya know, I hemhawed most of the day about what to do as far as this program. I just joined a few days ago after reading a thread about them lowering payout and thought it seemed like a good program to try.

I kept checking all of the threads hoping that this PO would use some common sense and realize that no one was slamming his program, just discussing something that could be mistaken by some members.

Well, I decided after reading the support folder, that common sense just isn't on the menu for some people. Don't bother searching your database for me darlin'. My name won't be there. I only 'work for' POs with integrity and decency. I've not seen either of these things in my reading, so I cannot in good conscience remain a member of a program run by this person.

One more thing, I do hope that you two will only use this awsome power you have for good. tongue.gif
biidaaban
i just unsubbed after reading the email that pointed to his post in his support folder. i'm so glad i didnt waste any money advertising the site. i was appalled at the info posted there for all to see
mcf
I had under $1 and the payout is $100.
I usually sleep on it before I unsub like this, but glad I did as I read this.
Imagine what will happen as people near payout.
nickelsb
QUOTE (mcf @ Feb 4 2004, 04:42 AM)
I had under $1 and the payout is $100.
I usually sleep on it before I unsub like this, but glad I did as I read this.
Imagine what will happen as people near payout.

cough cough cough...stop...joining...high...minimums...cough cough cough...no...one...listening...cough gasp <expire>

- Alex tongue.gif
kglaser
Unbelievable. All he had to do was come here at the beginning of all this garbage and I would have tried to discuss it with him (ok, maybe not with total calmness and tranquility, but calmly enough). What I really think is going on here is that he misunderstood what I said initially and now he's either too confused or too chicken to admit it. Well, I see that people are realizing his true colors now. His calling me a liar just makes me that much more disgusted. While I harbor no ill will towards those in the program, I cannot say that I am not delighted to see all these people quitting or not joining in the first place. I have my pound of flesh (not the most important thing, but sure is fun!!!!)
CTaylor
Check this out...he called you guys "liars" again in a different thread in his "support" folder...

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=131377

cajunlady
Just when I think things like this are past history some jerk WM goes and bursts my bubble. But then, what can you expect from a WM who thinks nothing of posting members usernames AND encrypted passwords on a public forum. He obviously understood enough english in the original post about the 50 cent banner to change it so I can't even give him that benefit of the doubt.

To this so-called webmaster - just what do you think you accomplished here? OK, you deleted 2 members and have alienated countless others to the point that some members are quitting and potential members are running as far as they can away from your site. You TOS is so vague that it is open to whatever YOU deem it means. Without members you are the webmaster of nothing. Be very careful. That pedestal you put yourself on is made of sand and the tide is turning.
kglaser
People will have to make up their minds about me as they will. I cannot prove I didn't lie--after all, who am I but a name on a screen? But I will tell you: I did not lie. I am a lousy liar. I am even worse at lying than this reachtop guy is at reading comprehension..
Fine with me if he directs people to threads and such...the thread in his support folder just makes him look like a confused incompetent, anyway.
I just bristle when called a liar (falsely), as would anyone.
jake19
I agree that his other posts sound like he may have an idea about English. But then comes this:
QUOTE
the reason we had made minus banner is caused by some cheating members and for better result of advertising. some members request personal payout twice within 3days(cf above). is it possible? we thank it was the good method for the honest personal payout. because cheaters have weak patience. but we removed all redeem, support, bonus and minus banners by these two members' complaint. advertising cost will be more expensive. personal payout will process automatically once a month. all redeem option will not appear quite a while. they made all of this situation.

Can someone please translate for me because I am really not sure what he/she is trying to say. I don't see what relevance the above has to Eld and KG.

I think I was paid to join this program, so I am kind of stuck there for a while longer - unless I can find who paid me and tell them I am withdrawing.
CTaylor
Of course you're not a liar. I read the aforementioned thread this morning, and the only thing I came away with it was some confusion about the cheat banner on the site. I saw no negative publicity and there was absolutely nothing to lie about....it was simply people talking about cheat banners and computer connection speed.

I think you're right, kglaser. I don't think reachtop was comprehending anything that was being said. But at this point I think he/she is too embarrassed to do anything about it.

huh.gif
kglaser
Well, I think you're right about the too embarrassed part...and I'll be willing to let the whole thing die down if he stops calling me a liar. I really, really dislike that. And since he is too scared to come here, I posted in his support folder:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...419entry1538419
dbashaggy
If he knew more about you, kglaser, and others like you, he would know that your main reason for posting your opinions about most sites is to help improve that site, not bring it down.
lelliott69
He obviously does not understand the privacy policy posted on the site.

1cent-100dollar-email.com Respects Your Privacy


Information Collected

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Members may opt-out of receiving future mailings; see the choice/opt-out section below. Demographic and profile data is also collected at our site. We use this data to tailor the visitor's experience at our site, showing them content that we think they might be interested in, and displaying the content according to their preferences. We collect personal off-line information for the sole purpose of paying members for earnings from our program. This site contains links to other sites. 1cent-100dollar-email.com is not responsible for the privacy practices or the content of such Web sites. 1cent-100dollar-email.com uses a sign-up form for new members and advertisers. We collect visitor's contact information (like their email address, address, and name). The member's contact information is used to get in touch with the member when necessary. Users may opt-out of receiving future mailings; see the choice/opt-out section below.


Does anyone see where they have the right to post personal info in a public forum???


Copied this from their site right before I unsubbed - and posted in their support forum too
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