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FamilyAffair
Hey Rob, time to boycott CashCauldron, with such an owner, it makes the program look extremely bad.

Want to vent my anger & give a piece of advise... AVOID joining CashCauldron if you are not a member. The program owner is extremely rude, greedy & dishonest fellow, not only rude, also accuses people of some untrue statements.

Carrico started a duplicate sign-up thread without checking before posting in another downline builder website. I edited my post, with referral link at least 4-5 mins before her post, she don't have decency to check & just assume its all my fault, she thinks she is the only right one. If it is 1 or 2 mins, it is understandable but it is not.

I tried to talk to carrico nicely but he/she didn't want to listen to explanation, tell me shut up & get lost.

I have redemned CashCauldron advertising yesterday as well, so far nothing.

Below are SOME extract of my reply (top) to her reply (bottom).

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Oh you want to be nasty even thought I am trying to communicate & you refused to listen anything. 2 can play that game & I will not tolerate your nonsense.

Fine... I will boycott your program until it closed down, you are a very rude idiotic owner. It is my mouth & I have the right to speak for justice, you can ignore all you want but I wouldn't take a chance for you to continue accusing me innocently & telling lies! You are at fault & do not apologise!

Since when did I lie before... I am well-known in popular forums & if I spread around, its not hard for people to know what you are. You are just being very greedy, starting a new thread & thinking you can snatch my old thread. Since you dare to do that, who knows if you purposely stolen my thread even thought you saw I edited my post already. It was edited 5 mins before your post, more than sufficient time to check, stop putting all the blame on me, the true fact is you do not check just before posting new thread.

You are a program owner, you do not need to cheat to get referrals but you are fighting with someone about something you do not deserve? 1 of the worst program owner I come across. Many knows I am honest especially when come to sign-up threads. You made me very ###### off as it is you who started thread without checking if there's 1 already.

I am a downline forum moderator & managed it well, nobody will believe I am dishonest. I will NOT lie to get the thread, it is what I truthly deserved! Cash-Hits isn't something worth to fight for but you really hurt me by telling fake statement & rude.

All I can say is you are a very poor loser. I will leave you alone now since you don't want to listen my explanation further but don't regret what you did later.
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From: carrico
Received: 4/3/02 04:25 AM
You shut up, just told you to stop bugging me!!! You're no one to say what I need to do or not especially when you messed it all and weren't honest. Now, stop PMing me.


[ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: FamilyAffair ]

carrico
First, fyi I'm not a her.

Second, coming yelling on public shows up too what person you are hey...

Third, you made a post without a link, when you KNOW TOO WELL that isn't allowed. You can only start a thread with a valid link, not with 'next please' only, leaving space for when getting the link.

Fourth, it was you that started saying I was a lier and all the crap. With me things are like this: if not messing with me, are go fine. If you start messing, don't expect me to smile back to you.

Fifth, when you got your link and came back to edit post, even knowing that's not allowed, you didn't even bother to use the 'edited' link we have on there. So, who's the cheater? YOU!!! Pretending that your post was written like that, completely from the start, without any edits...

Sixth, as I told you, stop bugging me now. I don't live on this 24 hours like you. Look at you... Do you have any life? Who's the greedy? Who's the lier?

Seventh, go on. Keep using your so called 'well known', 'moderator' and all that status. Run your life and leave mine alone.

Just a last note. Your redemption is on waiting list like everyone that redeems for advertising.

carrico
FamilyAffair
More from carrico.. just recieved.

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To end this ###### from you... You started saying I'm a lier... I'm a good person as long as not messing up with me. You made it, so now just leave me alone.

And by the way, you think I need to cheat for one more cac program??? GET REAL you there! It's one more ###### program, like all of them!!! I don't care if you are well known or not, you run your life like you want to. But when comes to lier, greedy and all that, I know WHO is not (myself, in case you not getting it).

Now, as I told you, go away and leave me alone with your threats... Have more to do...
My reply below
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Now who is messing with who? Since you see a thread already exist, you shouldn't offend another person by creating a new thread, making 1 extra friend is better than 1 enemy.

If you do not create a duplicate thread, this will not happen. What is your purpose.. I will tell you.. snatching my downline wouldn't make you look good. I am not giving threats as this does not benefit me. I am just telling you I will be returning the favor to you for messing my thread & give me this sort of ill treatment after that.

Look at your reply in open thread, it is clearly stated that you are speaking in an angry tone that 'I am the only 1 at fault, and you are right?'. That is why I said you lied. If you speak nicely, I will not feel so mad.

Even after I PM you, you still wouldn't admit that you didn't check just before submitting post, so how can you say you have no fault.

Your thread is not there when I left, I don't lie about that. It is in the rules you must check just before posting, it doesn't mean check like 6-10 mins before posting! 6-10 mins can make a big difference. There is no rule that I must show edit time, which I don't show most of the time.

You started the flame first not me, if you admitted that you did not check thread before posting, this problem will have be solved & its just up to mod to decide. All you did is just pushing all the fault at me & chase me away rudely which just makes it worse than ever & makes our temper boils. I am not someone who will tolebrate this treatment.


Below was the initial post from me on our 1st dispute & her reply.

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This is not true, your thread is duplicate. My link was there before carrico started it. carrico, you should check there's a already a valid thread. When I left this forum, your thread was not there. I signed up from RM forum, mod can check my sign up time there to verify my link was there many minutes before carrico. PM me for the link to RM. Note RM time is 12 minutes faster than PaidMania.
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You don't joke with me! I know too well what you did. Your post on here were ending with

'Next please'

You didn't have any link and as you must know it's NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT NOW. Besides, when coming back to edit post, you didn't even have the decency of using the 'edited' like we all use to do on here... WHY???

Play fair!
abbas
Signed up under Family affair. Next, pls use:
ppprk
???

QUOTE (abbas @ ...)
Signed up under Family affair. Next, pls use:
FamilyAffair
I am happy that you decides to clear up with me.

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Second, coming yelling on public shows up too what person you are hey...
Well, you can explain what went wrong, you should talk nicely. You aren't any better by treating me like this, especially since you didn't actually want to give me a chance to explain.

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Third, you made a post without a link, when you KNOW TOO WELL that isn't allowed. You can only start a thread with a valid link, not with 'next please' only, leaving space for when getting the link.


Well true, I know I hold some blames, just didn't know about this new rule earlier but I edited like 5 minutes before yours. My thread had become a valid thread & you didn't check just before posting.

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Just a last note. Your redemption is on waiting list like everyone that redeems for advertising.


Good! That's more like a human reply rather than before.
ppprk
If you started that thread with a valid link from the begining, this would not happen.
Even if you edit before anyone else start a thread,it makes problem
When ppl come and see Invaild post(with no link),they may want to go to sign up & start a new thread because there is no vaild thread.
FamilyAffair
QUOTE (ppprk @ ...)
If you started that thread with a valid link from the begining, this would not happen.
Even if you edit before anyone else start a thread,it makes problem
When ppl come and see Invaild post(with no link),they may want to go to sign up & start a new thread because there is no vaild thread.


This is true.. you know why this happened? I was waiting for person before me to finish signing up, he/she was so slow... I had all the links ready including confirmation sign-up page all personal information filled up, as soon as he edited, I will just submit button, this only take 1 min to complete.

This type of problem can occur again in future to other people since the edit time can be hidden.

However I always hide my edit time, it was not a delibrate on my part to create thread or make things even worse, but as you can see carrico just assume I know this new rule & speaking very rudely to me, didn't bother to talk with me. I really didn't know this new rule set at end of February!
Even if he thinks I am wrong or what, there's no need to kick a bucket, being so rude. I usually speak normally without being rude if there's a dispute but if opponent is rude, I do not tolerant it, just like in carrico case, started being rude to me 1st.

You can see until now carrico still thinks he has no fault at all & still thinks I am a liar & cheater for edit without time. I already told him many times, I edited before he created thread.

Actually it is not just me who create thread without link before, I saw you & some other people did it too.

[ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: FamilyAffair ]

tjguitar85
CashCauldron AdEarners and AdPointMail always wait a few weeks before confirming/sending your advertising.

THis is nothing new FA.

TJ
abbas
why?
ppprk
I didn't create any thread without links after the new rule was set.
I hardly did that even before that because i felt it is unfair.
ppprk
because there are too many pts redemptions

QUOTE (abbas @ ...)
why?
ppprk
I know you are unhappy with him (NOT CashCauldron)
,and so I don't see any reason to boycott CashCauldron

I think I don't understand what you said
You said he is a liar
Did he say something that is not true?
He just said his side like you said your side.

Well,I know both of you & know what kinds of persons both of you are.


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[ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: ppprk ]

lgwong
Sorry for my ignorance, where did all this happens? Here? Which thread?
TLA1973
Ok let me put this to an end.

lgwong - this was on another forum of which we all have been members for a long time.

1. There is more than 1 owner of CashCauldron so you should have been more careful posting this.

2. This should have been kept private

3. You cannot ask people to boycott a program simply because you have a disagreement with a person and you shouldnt abuse your position as a moderator to air your grievances personally


QUOTE
The program owner is extremely rude, greedy & dishonest fellow, not only rude, also accuses people of some untrue statements.


rude? maybe to you but again should have been kept private
greedy? >>> how?
dishonest? >>> how?

To set the record straight, everybody is in the queue for advertising - you will have to wait like everybody else.

All paid advertising is sent quickly.

And finally ...

Everybody please remember there are more important things in life than GPTS

ai.gif
FamilyAffair
ppprk, You didn't pay enough attention.

Yes of course he is a liar & he still thinks he is correct. He created the duplicate thread saying my thread is invalid because incomplete, however my thread is edited quite long before he posted thread, which is about 5 minutes.

He still wouldn't admit he didn't check just before posting. 5 minutes is sufficient time to check before posting. He just assume I am cheating by hiding my edit time & told me off rudely. I am not someone who do this, I always hide my edit time, it is something I do often, has nothing to do with cheating, etc.

What he did was check 1st, then go sign up then post link without checking again.

I had said already.

TLA1973: You also do not pay attention, I already said in my previous post that carrico refused to talk with me privately, he tells me to bug off very rudely.

QUOTE (ppprk @ ...)
I know you are unhappy with him (NOT CashCauldron)
,and so I don't see any reason to boycott CashCauldron

I think I don't understand what you said
You said he is a liar
Did he say something that is not true?
He just said his side like you said your side.

Well,I know both of you & know what kinds of persons both of you are.




[ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: ppprk ]
ppprk
I paid enough attention.You already siad that.
lie? what lie? Also,he may be right
It is possible that even if you edited your link before he started his thread,your thread is invalid because you viloated the rule in the process of creating that thread.
I don't know if your thread is valid or not.
but It seems at least paidmania mod think so &
decided that carrico's was the first valid post for this program since it was complete with referral link WHEN posted.


QUOTE (FamilyAffair @ ...)
ppprk, You didn't pay enough attention.

Yes of course he is a liar & he still thinks he is correct. He created the duplicate thread saying my thread is invalid because incomplete, however my thread is edited quite long before he posted thread, which is about 5 minutes.

He still wouldn't admit he didn't check just before posting. 5 minutes is sufficient time to check before posting. He just assume I am cheating by hiding my edit time & told me off rudely. I am not someone who do this, I always hide my edit time, it is something I do often, has nothing to do with cheating, etc.

What he did was check 1st, then go sign up then post link without checking again.

I had said already.

TLA1973: You also do not pay attention, I already said in my previous post that carrico refused to talk with me privately, he tells me to bug off very rudely.
tjguitar85
QUOTE (TLA1973 @ ...)
Ok let me put this to an end.

lgwong - this was on another forum of which we all have been members for a long time.

1. There is more than 1 owner of CashCauldron so you should have been more careful posting this.

2. This should have been kept private

3. You cannot ask people to boycott a program simply because you have a disagreement with a person and you shouldnt abuse your position as a moderator to air your grievances personally




rude? maybe to you but again should have been kept private
greedy? >>> how?
dishonest? >>> how?

To set the record straight, everybody is in the queue for advertising - you will have to wait like everybody else.

All paid advertising is sent quickly.

And finally ...

Everybody please remember there are more important things in life than GPTS

ai.gif


You speak of another forum which forum. That doesnt help mcuh, All I know of is this, EE, GPTBoycott, 3links and EFM
Byzantine
Yeah, well they obviously are two people with tempers. Most people have them, myself included. It's only human.

I think a program should only be avoided for reasons like not paying people, no customer support, you know, business reasons. I'm sure if I met all the owners of every brick and mortar place I do business with, I wouldn't like all of them! But I'm not going to stop shopping at my favorite grocery stores or wherever just because I might not like the owner.

I'm a member of Cash Cauldron, and I like the program. I don't expect to actually make a living off of PTREMs. I just hope to make a little extra pocket change at some point, or maybe some free advertising. It didn't take me long to get enough points at Cash Cauldron to redeem for advertising, even without a single downline member. I haven't redeemed it yet, because I'm not sure what I want to use it for, exactly, and besides, if I wait, I can get alittle more advertising.

How many other PTREMs can you say that it doesn't take a long time to get some kind of a reward out of them? Unless you mean Zaraditenovac, where you can cashout at one cent, LOL. Cash Cauldron's advertising is worth more than a penny, and you can probably rack up the minimum required quicker than you could earn a penny by clicking on emails worth .001 or .0005 of a cent, which are some I've gotten lately from Zaraditenovac.

That's why Cash Cauldron is one of my favorite PTREMs, and probably one of the very best out there, in my opinion. If the owner was greedy, or mean, they wouldn't have the point emails, where somebody on a limited advertising budget, like myself can so easily earn free advertising.

I think it was just a misunderstanding. When somebody says themself it isn't worth arguing over, it's just another crappy PTREM, but keeps arguing over it anyway, it's obviously a matter of who's "right" and who's "wrong". But in a misunderstanding, nobody has to be "right" or "wrong", you can just shake hands (virtually, in this case), and shake your heads over the whole thing. In a couple of days, you'll wonder why you even bothered to argue over it in the first place. Life is too short to sweat the small things, just concentrate on the big things, like family, health, etc., hmmmmm?

If somebody still feels like they have to be "right" and somebody has to be "wrong", hey figure out some way to blame it on me, I'll take the rap, LOL. :wink:
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