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CashIndustries
I have been spending a lot of time on EBay looking at advertising, paid signups, membership upgrades, etc....

and I have seen where there are hundreds of premade websites for everything from search engines to dating sites to traffic sites. I have also seen TONS of items selling web hosting for INCREDIBLY cheap.

I would greatly appreciate it if anyone with experience in buying websites or web hosting from EBAY could tell me what to look for, if your experience was good or bad, etc...

I just want to know if these are decent items to buy of if they are junk to stay away from.

THANKS ALL!!
amysrewards4mail
You get what you pay for. If you are looking for webhosting I strongly urge your to go with a reputable company. Many have packages from as little as $2.50 a month and up. I would recommend Go-Mama-Hosting. Another reputable company is Lucidity Hosting. These sites are familiar with PTRS, SE's and regular websites. If there is a question or problem they respond and quickly.

As far as buying a site. I think it may depend on what your are looking for.
CashIndustries
what would be a good amount to pay for a good search engine site or traffic exchange site? (not including hosting)
vv123
QUOTE (CashIndustries @ Dec 30 2003, 12:13 PM)
what would be a good amount to pay for a good search engine site or traffic exchange site? (not including hosting)

Just bid within your budget, if you lose the auction, you can go to the next, there will be never a shortage of pre-made sites on ebay biggrin.gif
CashIndustries
is there still room in the biz for new paid-to-click search engines and traffic exchanges?
Juliette
QUOTE (CashIndustries @ Dec 30 2003, 05:31 PM)
is there still room in the biz for new paid-to-click search engines and traffic exchanges?

as long as they keep taking people moneys and shutting down of course there will

people just move onto the next one
vv123
QUOTE (CashIndustries @ Dec 30 2003, 12:31 PM)
is there still room in the biz for new paid-to-click search engines and traffic exchanges?

Sure!! There is no limit on how many sites you can start, what matter most is how well u manage them biggrin.gif
CashIndustries
ok folks, here's an example of hosting for sale on ebay that I just can't decide if it's a good deal or if it's junk.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=2776416535

or this one OMG!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=2776409928

what do you think?
vardar15
QUOTE (CashIndustries @ Dec 31 2003, 09:19 AM)
ok folks, here's an example of hosting for sale on ebay that I just can't decide if it's a good deal or if it's junk.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=2776416535

or this one OMG!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=2776409928

what do you think?

My thoughts were all based on their feedback ratings.

The first one doesn't look to good, after looking at the sellers feedback it seems as soon as you start to use to much he shuts your site down.
The second one is hard to tell, as he has a very low feedback rating, but it is %100 positive. It would be less of a risk as it is only $1 at the moment, but the site could be really slow. Also always make sure there are no shipping charges, as ive seen people include those on such things as emails to rip people off, or escape ebay fees.
CashIndustries
I checked that there's no shipping charges or hidden fees on either, but if their ad says UNLIMITED STORAGE AND BANDWIDTH then how can they shut you down?
vardar15
QUOTE (CashIndustries @ Dec 31 2003, 10:54 AM)
I checked that there's no shipping charges or hidden fees on either, but if their ad says UNLIMITED STORAGE AND BANDWIDTH then how can they shut you down?

Thats what i didn't understand, but some of the people in their feedback claimed they had been shut down, you could try contacting one of them. And i think it is impossible to give unlimited bandwith, which was discussed in another thread lately.
SelfSupportiveSolutions
QUOTE (CashIndustries @ Dec 31 2003, 10:54 AM)
I checked that there's no shipping charges or hidden fees on either, but if their ad says UNLIMITED STORAGE AND BANDWIDTH then how can they shut you down?

They don't need an excuse. They'll just do it. At last resort, they probably have an 'acceptable usage' clause to fall back on. In other words, they'll say that unlimited doesn't mean truly unlimited.

I'd avoid either of those sites to posted. For the above reason, and for the feedback issue that vardar mentioned.
Mystical2000
If you are going to buy something off of ebay I highly recomend that you stick to people with very good feedback and a high rating. Also I dont think its a good idea to buy hosting off of ebay. Maybe and I mean MAYBE a site. But you can get such realiable hosting off of ebay there really is no need.

Salteh
The second one also includes "Unlimited Domain parking". In other words, they own the domain. You do not. If they turn out to be awful you can't take your site elsewhere.

Lose-lose, in my opinion.
CashIndustries
QUOTE (Salteh @ Dec 30 2003, 10:33 PM)
The second one also includes "Unlimited Domain parking". In other words, they own the domain. You do not. If they turn out to be awful you can't take your site elsewhere.

Lose-lose, in my opinion.

but the hosting package doesn't include any domain registration.

how can they keep what they don't have if I register a new domain elsewhere and just host it there?
Salteh
I suppose it depends if their list of inclusions are their terms. If their terms are that you use a domain parked by them, you lose. If you are allowed to take your own domain to them, I suppose that would be different. Personally what they offer is worth so much more, I smell a rat.
Mystical2000
From what I see you seem to be looking for reasons to get one of those packages. Perhaps you should question the person selling. See if you like their responses. See if they will give you a list of 5 names of sites of people that have hosting with them. See if they are happy. Contact the people who have purchased from them and see if they are happy now. Sometimes things change after you have left your feedback.
CashIndustries
I have emailed a few questions to the sellers regarding these issues discused here.

I'm asking questions cuz I've never bought hosting b4 and I don't wanna get screwed.

but if there's an opportunity that's valid I want to get it.
CashIndustries
I will give them credit for a very quick response to my emails.
I asked if unlimited storage and hosting was truly unlimited? and to explain unlimited domain parking?
Here's what the emailed back to me.

"No, it is truly unlimited. We will not shut you down in any condition.
Unlimited domain parking means you can park a domain name for Free
without hosting it.

Regards,
Exovian Internet Services"
Mystical2000
All I can say is you have to use your best judgment. If you think its a good deal and can live with it. Go for it. In the end no one here is paying for it except you.
SelfSupportiveSolutions
QUOTE (CashIndustries @ Dec 31 2003, 12:15 PM)
I will give them credit for a very quick response to my emails.
I asked if unlimited storage and hosting was truly unlimited? and to explain unlimited domain parking?
Here's what the emailed back to me.

"No, it is truly unlimited. We will not shut you down in any condition.
Unlimited domain parking means you can park a domain name for Free
without hosting it.

Regards,
Exovian Internet Services"

Then perhaps you can give them a hypothetical, say 100 Gb a day traffic? It seems to me they must be lying to get your cash.

On the other hand, they may be in a reseller arrangement and simply not know that unlimited doesn't mean unlimited, and the first they would find out would be when they were told to shut you down by the actual host.
A lot of hosts seem to only think of 2 criteria - bandwidth and storage space, and don't even think of CPU load until something goes wrong (it overloads).

It simply doesn't make sense. blink.gif blink.gif
CashIndustries
I'm not saying I'm gonna do it. I was just trying to get some feedback.
Exovian
I can assure all of you, Exovian Internet Services is one of the best hosts out there. We have a feedback rating of 25 with 100% positive. We've had nothing but compliments on our services.

Our ebay store can be found at:http://stores.ebay.com/exovianinternetservices

Main Website: http://www.exovian.com

we have 7 different servers in the USA and our web hosting is currently located in Texas. The box stats are:

P4 2.8ghz
1GB Ram
80GB Hard Drive
100mbit
CPanel 8
Fantastico
WHM

and thats just one of them. Thats how our prices are what they are. You can ask any eBay member who is signed up with us, and they will agree 100% Feel free to e-mail us at support@exovian.com if you have any questions what so ever.

Regards,
Exovian Internet Services
web-earners
Hey, is mass mailing allowed on the server? laugh.gif
SelfSupportiveSolutions
Exovian,

As I suggested above, there MUST be some sort of limit. Otherwise, would you allow say, a site with 100 Gb a day bandwidth usage and 10 Gb storage space?

Are you even aware of the huge CPU drain created by the types of sites discussed here? There is a big history of hosts claiming their deals were 'unlimited', then kicking sites out when the load started getting too heavy. 9 times out of 10 it's because the hosts have never previously seen sites use anywhere near the sorts of resources that GPTR sites do.
Exovian
Aslong as its legal we allow it.

As I suggested above, there MUST be some sort of limit. Otherwise, would you allow say, a site with 100 Gb a day bandwidth usage and 10 Gb storage space?

"Are you even aware of the huge CPU drain created by the types of sites discussed here? There is a big history of hosts claiming their deals were 'unlimited', then kicking sites out when the load started getting too heavy. 9 times out of 10 it's because the hosts have never previously seen sites use anywhere near the sorts of resources that GPTR sites do. "

not all hosts have 7 different servers located throughout the united states with weekly backups and 24/7 monitoring. We have been around for a long time, and we know what we're doing. Thank you for the concern though.

Regards,
Ben
CashIndustries
I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to post the results of my personal experience with buying cheap "unlimited" hosting through ebay.

the good news. In the six months I had these hosting programs I did get unlimited hosting and I only paid less than $10 total for all of it. Mainly becasue it was all I had to spend (everything else was spent on ads).

the bad news. I first used Exovian. After three months they went through some corporate change and would not offer the service for the same price anymore. So I quickly changed to JoeUSA and again, after three months my hosting account was terminated with no explanation.

Many thanks to Rod for helping me with temporary hosting for right now while I get back on my feet again!

so, while most of you did suggest that it might not be a great idea to do what I did and I know that I get what I pay for, it was the only thing I could do at the time and it has served its purpose as well as I needed.

thank you for those who posted your comments when I asked back in December. turns out your concerns where absolutely correct, and I felt it was important to add to this thread and to strongly caution GPF members about using any of the cheap "unlimited" hosting accounts. I would not necessarily count on using one of them for any extended period of time unless you only need minimal storage and bandwidth.

Best of Luck!!
CASH
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