A true story and get no single reply...

I was cheated by this site!!!

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From: Kuri Lung
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2003 13:04:56
To: Info@nut-case-mail.com
Subject: I never violate your terms, but my account disappeared


I have read through all the FAQ and Terms and found that I never violate
your terms but my account disappeared after my vacation.

I only become inactive for just one week ( your terms said 30 days). But
now I can't log in and when I send the login info, it said my email address
is not included in your database.

Actually, at the very beginning when I join your site, it is a $3 payout
site. Yet after I reach $3, and I press the request button, and then there
is no reply for over a month. Suddenly, your site changed to be a $10
payout site. What's wrong with this? Without a Notice!!!

Okay, and never mind, I continue to click and received credit... then I
almost reach $10 and now my account disappeared. What's wrong again?

Is there any trick playing with your site? Or, is it just fraud?

Please reply me as soon as possible or I will tell everyone my story.

Kuri Lung

Clicked any trick link?
Edited to add:
ohh, you find the right place as this is your 1st post here.

absolutely NOT!!!

I am not a new player in paid mail program... I know all the rules and play carefully... I spend my time to click and click and click...

but it is really a bad site... as i mentioned in the email, at the very beginning it is a $3 payout site... after i reach the limit i request to cashout and get no response... and then i found it changed to a $10 payout site without a single notice.

i am so silly, i should aware of this site may be a cheat site and i still click and click and hope to reach the $10 cashout level...

oh... my god... how come the webmaster can do that?

Sorry it happen to you, you might not get a lot of replies do to the fact of others have been posting about this wm deleting their accounts. Look through the complaint section and you will see older threads on the same topic.

Are you sure you didn't click any Paid-to-click cheat link banners? I heard nut-case had them in their PTC

I was deleted for no reason too, I was at $8. So no I'm not welcome.

Terrible, being deleted for posting on the forum,
Well we finaly know how he is.

My account was deleted for the same reason (posting in a forum) I briefly believed his story of it being an 'accident' because my account was on vacation and he was deleteding inactives. At the time I submited a complaint to gptboycott.com but after he told me his story I asked them to deleted my complaint, I hope they didn't.

I think it is low of webmasters to delete members for posting negative things about it in forums (complaining about a late payment). We have the right to complain and they should listen, not delete.

This webmaster Randy does some very nasty crooked things in his programs if you do some searches in here you will find many threads complaining about how he rips off his members.

Sorry to hear that you are another person he has stolen earnings from.

I am not afraid because Randy never deletes women!


To: laurabeth82@
Subject: Please Read Update
From: "nut-case-mail.com" <Insanity@nut-case-mail.com>




Comments from Crazy
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Hi!

I hope you are all well!

Chances are if you are still a member after the mass data base cleanup
I did the past week, You are an honest member that is simply here to
make money as well as surf the net without all the garbage!

Just for your information, Here is some of the things that got members
deleted.


There is zero tolerance for this as I dont pay deadbeats....

1) Opting in for searches and failing random Search test (not
searching)

If you only want paid emails and not have to search, DO NOT OPT IN FOR
SEARCHES(eventually all violators will lose their accounts at one
point.)

2) Opting for Searches and not being from an accepted Country.

3) Blocking our Cookies

4) logging in from other members pcs

5) forum trash with no life

6) cheat links

7) Inactive for more than 30 days

8) multiple accounts

9) rude behavior or aggressive mean emails

10) constantly pressing the redeem button over and over again

11) Bidding on auction items and not paying

12) sending ads and never paying

13) Lying to us about ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING


Once again, If you are still here you probably did not do any of this
and you will always be paid as long as you keep being the awesome member
you are!!

On that note, We are trying something new to stop the deadweights!!

This is your advance notice now.. Signup page will close February
1/2004 for 90 days trial period.

This should give you plenty of time to gain referrals or what not if
you have an ad campain going...

I will have refferals for grabs after this date..

This is now a Private club and not just anyone can signup or become a
member anymore.

We are going to continue to get rid of the rotten apples so this could
become one of the best programs once again.


Please stay tuned for new awesome changes such as higher paying
emails!!!

the only reason i can think of that i was deleted was i accidentally clicked the cheat link in the ptc section, because i followed all the terms.

ive been one of those honest members whos only crime was having a case of the butterfingers. u know the fingers tend to go crazy after awhile clicking all those links one right after another!

honestly, i dont even remember seeing a cheat link anywhere on their site before. was that the first??

some program owners are nice enough to give u 2 or 3 chances not to do it again and clearly mark their cheat links as such. if this webmaster had done this and not been overzealous deleting honest members such as myself (ive only made this one mistake in all the months ive been a member) i bet a lot of them would still have their accounts intact and maybe be smiling and handing out praise instead of cursing at the webmaster right now.

YET, the only reason i can think of that i was deleted is that I almost reach $10 min payout

This is the fact that nut-case owner raise the min payout without a single notice. This is the main point that can be seen he is planning to steal our time and our money.

When I first reach $3 min payout, there is a "request" button appear in the redemption page. I click it once and don't dare to click again as I know the harsh delete account condition very well. Then I wait for over 30 days, no reply, no payout and then I found it raise the limit.

It is absolutely a careful cheating plan. He will not delete all the members but the most. He must leave someone fight for him.

This is my fault... i deserve it because i am quite greedy and i see each banner has 0.25 cent payout... much more than other proper paid mail site. So even I doubt about the raise of min payout, I contiue to click and think that it is easy to reach $10...

So when I almost reach $10, i was punished. I am so silly... oh, I hope the owner of nut-case grasp our money and enjoy an unhappy life...

pay for divorce, pay for hospital, pay for what he deserve!!!

YET, the only reason i can think of that i was deleted is that I almost reach $10 min payout

me too,I won't do it again

I have also been deleted and have no idea why.

OMG

I AM SO THRILLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next Week I will hit the redemption button of NCE

What will it be? Will I be Deleted or will I be PAID......thats the question controling my life

I know a lot of people have been deleted... I don't know why. And I know that there have been a lot of changes that people don't agree on.

But I just have to say this. I haven't had any negative experiences with this program. I have been paid twice... once after asking for redemption and once random.

I have also always received an answer to my e-mails and always in a friendly and timely manner.

A lot of people may not agree with me... but I am only talking about my own experience. I thought people should also hear that there are positive experiences with this program...

Oh and what comes to the searches... I once asked and only the searches that are titled as searches (ie. "nutty searches" in the e-mails) are must search. The searches in "Peanuts", Paid2Click and other parts were not a must! I asked that after he made the rule to be sure of what I had to do.

I don't want to be skeptic. Yet I only believe that if there is lots of people got problems with one thing, then that thing must have at least some problem.

As I mentioned before, there must be a few of people getting lucky with this program as the owner want to continue to cheat more others. He still need someone say for him and stand by him.

More over, you said:

...I know that there have been a lot of changes that people don't agree on...

Now, this is not a matter about agree or not agree. BUT this is about if he want the whole world know the changes openly. The cheater always changes things silently, and not formally announced.

You should better make Penniesbymail.com as a reference. A proper site which always make things open and clear... even it want to delete your account. Its quality control mail will have a large word said: D-O N-O-T CLICK in the subject line. This is much more fair.

Where do I find out why I am no longer a member in the Nutcase data base? I don't remember hitting any cheat links, I do my best to do the searches, (and I think I updated all my personal info, but can't remember for sure). Is there a master list of the deletions (and the reasons) somewhere?

I don't think you will find out why you were deleted forever. This is because the operation of the evil Nut-case-mail is not opened. According to the complicated harsh rules of the evil site, simply saying, all decisions are up to the evil owner Cheater Randy at all.

I was also deleted this week and I requested payout last month and was up to $15 hard earned dollars. I am a woman too and it didn't stop him and the trouble is, there is no way of contacting him! I tried the contact button, but had to log in as a member. This has been the only program where I will officially cry 'scam'! I didn't cheat and did all the right things, so because I redeemed, I was booted and that's the only reason that I can think of.

Oh WOW! I am in no way a rotten apple and I really resent being called one.
Randy, you have a lot to answer for in slandering good people's names.

I have redeemed 10$ and I gave been deleted in the end.

I made abou 1500 to 2000 searches for nothing.

There are many words I like to send my dear Randy but I make him a nice email.

I have not cheated but I have been postend on the forum. I will DOS his site a bit to make sure he gets a bit of traffic....

REVENGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Contact i srestricted only for members

I reported this site to:

http://www.fraud.org/

And hopfully others will do as well.

hmmm

if this all is true why did he pay me $21.63 today? within 30 days off requesting?

the way he has done this every other time before?

I don't know why he chose to pay you and chose to delete so many of us. Are you trying to say we are all lying? If you are, come right out and say it, no need to be coy.

okay, i was deleted (as I said earlier, and I have no idea why, and I wasn't that far from pay-off, and I was sooo looking forward to getting paid from this guy, but...ces la vie). Anyway, just to cover myself, does the owner have any other sites?

Yes, he does. Mr Crazy's or something like that and Paid Emails from the great white north. Those are the only ones I know of.

I was at $8.75 when he deleted me. Live and learn.

Well, well, well.
Just after I joined this site, I read heaps of complaints here, so I thought I'll wait for my payout & get out. DIDN'T GET A CHANCE!!!
Now that I finaly got close to payout, I got deleted. Sent an email asking why... no response. Now... because I read all the stuff here, I made darn sure I followed all instructions to the T. Searched with all search links, didn't lie about anything, didn't click cheat links, didn't post anything negative (although I was tempted). I have never been this careful with any other site, but because I was nearing payout, wanted to make sure I ALWAYS did the right thing.So nut-case is


REALLY NUTCASE
SCAM
RIP-OFF
CHEATER
LIAR
FRAUD.....................


I could keep going, but I guess you already know all this.

P.S. from now on, when I read about a site as bad as this, I won't bother waiting for payout (why bother), I will get out right there & then.

Gee, now that I'm out, I think I'll stay out.

I dont know why randy chooses to pay some people, probably because if he is paying some people then he is less likely to be called a scam. I wasnt deleted, I quit! I have tried to run 2 ads since december. My account was debited for them, 7.00 total, but huh the ads never ran, imagine that. I even gave him the benefit of the doubt on the 1st 1, because I thought maybe I didnt do it right. Well I KNOW I did the 2nd one right, but guess what ....he didnt run it either, so imo, nutcase is a SCAM!
That is the 1st time I've ever called anyone that. I'm not so quick to yell scam. I think a lot of people DO cheat and get deleted then cry scam. I also think sometimes wms make mistakes and that it doesnt make them a scam. But when it comes to nutcase I will stand up and yell with all of my might
SCAM!

I am a member of Mr.Crazys. Received an email the other day stating that Mr.Crazys and Great white will be shut down and the members moved over to Nutcase. That means my payout goes from $3 something to $10. Reading this thread doesnt make me feel any better either.

The fun is that randy is reading this threat and cannot reply.

I am not upset that I have been deleted.

Talking reason or discuss a topic with randy should be the same as....as..

Trying to explain the meaning of life to a slater !!:P

So Randy, what will you do know. Buy a site to delete me again??

Now why doesn't any of this surprise me? I'm truly sorry for anyone who got deleted, but really, the writing's been on the wall for a long, long time. Although, I truly hope Randy gets the help he needs to get back on track. Maybe this business is just too much for him. Dunno.

Don't get me wrong. I was paid through two of his proggies. The last was Nutcase, then I promptly unsub'd. I'd rather not be entwined with someone who shows no respect for people. And can't even answer a NICE support mail. The lack of customer service, respect, and professionalism smacks with his programs.