Max
May 22 2002, 11:16 PM
I?ve only recieved one email from them since they launched
I had 188 refferrals and never earned 1cent from them
and now my account is gone
I?ve written an email to them twice but don?t get any answers
Is anybody else having the same problem with paidhotbox
summersun
May 23 2002, 06:16 PM
well, sorry to say, but i get about 2 messages per week from them, no problems with missing refs or earnings either.
sultra
Jun 5 2002, 08:03 AM
HMMM. I wasn't receivng any either. Then I started and they are running a contest so I attemtped to lof in and it told me my email hadn't been confirmed. HMMMM. Iam asking for another resend of the inital. Let's see what happens.
heheheeh Figured, now I'm jsut slightly ######.
Logged in now and guess what??? No referalls and no money (with exception to the bonus on signup)
Check your account!!!!!!
[ 06-05-2002, 10:06 PM: Message edited by: sultra ]
Chris Houlihan
Jun 5 2002, 08:11 AM
MY ACCOUNTS MISSING TOO!
I just sent them an email, I doubt they'll reply. I've heard of 4 different instances where they don't reply to emails and when they have gotten money from advertisers, but not sent out their ads.
[ 06-05-2002, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: Chris Houlihan ]
cashfiesta
Jun 5 2002, 08:35 AM
ITS A SCAM!
I already got referrals on 6 levels from the downline builder. I was surprised to find none of them.I sent a message to this edited , he said he didnot delete any of the members, maybe they unsubscribed.I replied telling: all members unsubscribed? how? DOes it make sense?It doesnt!
No reply till now.
Ofcourse i deleted my account. A message to all,
delete your accounts and dont support him, you will never get any money.He purposely deletes
those who have many referrals. I remember from one of the emails that the owner is a user here, called israelcarpenter,
Whatever, keep away from this cheap edited
Poncer
Jun 5 2002, 11:14 AM
That is strange. I am getting like 10 e-mails from them for paid links in a week. Sometimes I get more than 10 in a week. I don't even have any refferals.
sultra
Jun 5 2002, 11:39 AM
Mine was deleted today when I found out wha twas going on. So what happens to the downline builder post now? I posted a warning there and I think it should be closed off. That way no ohe can start another one. Is there any legal authority we can send this ###### to? I'd like to report him for fraud.
cashfiesta
Jun 5 2002, 11:41 AM
See!!
the ones with many refs will not get many emails!!
Those who have no refs, and who cannnot cashout even after 5000 emails will get them!!becos no way they will cashout!!
he deletes accounts with high number of refs, and high earnings, thats it!
No dice, a scam is scam.
Just unsubscribe and dont dream!
Nothing called half a scam
No dice, a scam is scam.
sultra
Jun 5 2002, 11:51 AM
Okay, so does anyone have a contact email or name to identify him with? I'm sure this won't be the last time. Can't help, i'm a CG major. I can't stand dishonesty.
cashfiesta
Jun 5 2002, 12:13 PM
I remeber that his nick here is israelcarpenter.
sultra
Jun 5 2002, 12:40 PM
ohhhh crap he's here? Well what can be done about the scum? He shouldn't be allowed here if we have all proven he is a scam artist.
And if you happen to read this jsut to let you know I HAVE YOUR BACK!!! I will inform everyone I know what you are up to. Your a fraudalent business ###### with no tact, and no class. People like you cannot be tolerated!
[ 06-06-2002, 04:12 AM: Message edited by: sultra ]
Emaillionairesemail
Jun 5 2002, 03:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cashfiesta:
I remeber that his nick here is israelcarpenter.
I don't think Israel is the webmaster there, he is a college student who I talk to frequently. are you sure about this or just a guess?
Betterwhois is not a help either:
Domain Name: PAIDHOTBOX.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS.MY-EHOST.COM
Name Server: NS2.MY-EHOST.COM
Updated Date: 26-mar-2002
Mary
cashfiesta
Jun 5 2002, 08:53 PM
I saw one of the paypal addresses to pay for an ad:
israelcarpenter@hotmail.com, but he never showed it again.
I dont care who the person is, but given all these posts,you decide whether to stay or not.
Emaillionairesemail
Jun 5 2002, 09:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cashfiesta:
I saw one of the paypal addresses to pay for an ad:
israelcarpenter@hotmail.com, but he never showed it again.
I dont care who the person is, but given all these posts,you decide whether to stay or not.
oh I unsubscribed a while ago, more concerned about ruining someones reputaton if it is not warrented actually. I am not disputing the program or even the owner has problems, just questioning who that may be. Israel has ran ads on several sites, never as a webmaster but as a member.
There is not a paypal button or address on the advertising page incidentally,, not only odd but not a great way to get business. "Please pay via PayPal then return to this page to submit your order"
(ok, like, uh, where?)
I just hate to see someone get accused of something unless there is more proof. Rather like when VERY good promoters get accused of cheating because they have a big downline.
I just sent him/her a email stating that he/she post a reply to the this topic and if he/she doesn?t do that thene everything is as said sofar
Another Scam
tipsy
Jun 5 2002, 10:22 PM
I don't think I. Carpenter is the webmaster. I have spoke with him on several occasions and he is simply a guy like us reading mails and signing up He's always telling me of new one's he's with and pays me to sign up with him. As far as my dealing with paidhotbox I have lost over 20 referrals overnight cause I just checked yesterday morning. I had them spread out over eight levels and I'm down to 2 levels I've sent him an email to see what's happened....
Israel Carpenter
Jun 6 2002, 02:41 AM
Tina,
Praise be with you girl, ... and Mary ... I still luv ya HON..... This is directed at Cash Fiesta.
Hey bro .. I have been busting my ###### for the past 2 months trying to raise a couple thousand to get a site up and online that can handle all the visitors I need! I write to every webmaster and personally answer ALL emails .... I DO NOT a ###### site least of all Paid Hot Box ... whom I like and will be sorry to see turnout a scam! .... What pisses me off is how A couple of webmasters can start these silly rumors. I struggle enough online fighting for referrals and dishonest program owners I sure don't need a new battle over a bunch of ###### that can easily be checked out. Personally, I have sent an ad on PHB (used the $25 signup bonus) I was a little unhappy cause it turned up no signups and only 1000 hits or so!
... But anyway ... If any still have questions shoot an email to israelcarpenter@aol.com
by the way ... That is my NAME .. not a nickname! Below I added a couple personal pages to info about me! .. Igwong ... this is not an ad just a means to invite some prying into ME!
spam edited
sultra
Jun 6 2002, 02:43 AM
Obviously, the program itself is Fraudalent. That's all I want to make people aware of. As far as the owner. I haven't reaserched it yet. THe program itself is what I'm after right now.
I don't think we need anymore complaints, it's obvious what is going on with the program.
sultra
Jun 6 2002, 02:47 AM
Great! I am glad to see you postee here. I just read your post and I am not accusing you personally of anything. To get this straught though, you are NOT THE OWNER of PaidHOTBOX, correct?
I would never slam anyone unless I had proof you were the owner so you don't have to wrry about me. Oh, and Good Luck with your site. I'm a big fan of chiildren!!!
[ 06-06-2002, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: sultra ]
Israel Carpenter
Jun 6 2002, 03:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sultra:
Great! I am glad to see you postee here. I just read your post and I am not accusing you personally of anything. To get this straught though, you are NOT THE OWNER of PaidHOTBOX, correct?
I would never slam anyone unless I had proof you were the owner so you don't have to wrry about me. Oh, and Good Luck with your site. I'm a big fan of chiildren!!!
Sultra,
That is correct, I AM NOT the owner of Paid Hot Box. I don't even know them. But since I sent an ad about a week ago I have the email and I think name ... I am looking for it now! Found it!! ..
below is the email info I got from them ..
(izzy_me3@yahoo is me at yahoo!)
To: izzy_me3@yahoo.com
From: Webmaster@paidhotbox.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book,
Subject: Re: Can we spend our earnings & bonus on advertising?
Reply-to: @
Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 06:58:09 -0700
You can use your $25 sign up bonus to send a paid email to 6000
members.
Send your ad copy and I will send your ad out within 24 hours.
Thank You
The Staff at Paid Hot Box
At 28 May 2002, you wrote:
>Israel at izzy_me3@yahoo.com has a question:
>
>Can we spend our earnings & bonus on advertising?
>
>Can we spend our earnings and signup bonus on advertising?
>
-----------------------------
sorry no name! ... someone in this forum can find that out!
thanks,
Israel Carpenter
tipsy
Jun 6 2002, 10:04 AM
here's the reply I got from my email to him...
Hi !
I don't know what is going on. I have only deleted the accounts
of those that have made a request for me to delete their accounts.
I have been receiving several emails in the last couple of days to
the same effect. I am going to email create-a-click and see if I
can find out what is going on. I don't know how anyone could delete
these accounts without having access to everyone's information.
This does not make any sense to me.
Thank You
The Staff at Paid Hot Box
duh!!! ever heard of hackers?? or maybe that's his way of saying I'm innocent I don't know... I certainly he finds out soon....
Poncer
Jun 6 2002, 06:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tipsy:
here's the reply I got from my email to him...
Hi !
I don't know what is going on. I have only deleted the accounts
of those that have made a request for me to delete their accounts.
I have been receiving several emails in the last couple of days to
the same effect. I am going to email create-a-click and see if I
can find out what is going on. I don't know how anyone could delete
these accounts without having access to everyone's information.
This does not make any sense to me.
Thank You
The Staff at Paid Hot Box
duh!!! ever heard of hackers?? or maybe that's his way of saying I'm innocent I don't know... I certainly he finds out soon....
Maybe you hit the nail on the head. It could be hackers who are cheating by deleting the accounts and resigned them under their names. This is happening to other GPTR programs.
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