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Breezer0111
hi

i have 2 referrals in level 1 on krijgbetaald.nl.
my account shows more than $6 before the upgrade.

no a couple of day's the upgrade is complete and i go back to my account.
SUPRISE ohmy.gif

i lost over 200.000 points and $4 cash and 2 referrals mad.gif

ill ask the WM 2 times why this is with no respons in the ticket or emails.

then today i look again in my account.
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now i'm in debit $4.2180

so krijgbetaald debit me again and now for .2180 ?

don't know why because i can not buy ad's (to little money for 100 ad's )

so are the a fraud site ? YES i think so.
and i don't ***** believe it.
this WM/PO is 12 years old ???????????????????????????


i like to say to all members of krijgbetaald.nl ,please look in your account , 12 year old thief is stealing your hard earnd money mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif



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jeroenz
I also use it and I have 13 euro in my account but I have to change my banknr and they don't reply on the cards and I can only choose paypal or belgian bank for payout. I also heared more bad things about it so I'm very curios if I will get my money.
legendh
what kind of site is it
netherlands ptr?
Breezer0111
ok first legendh

this is a dutch site and the PO/WM is a 12 years old boy.
the original country is the netherlands.


jeroenz

i have finaly contact with this little kid by a email.
i told me that he couldt not read any trouble tickets ?
that sounds strange to me because my first one he just delete it ,and i must make 2 others.
now for my referrals and earnings i send a email to him ( contact us ) and he respond.
ill set it here but it's in dutch so i try to trandlete it for the english members.
only i delete my email addy replace it with XXXX

QUOTE

Beste ,

Waarom in de min staat weet ik niet dat moet u even kijken in uw geschiedenis
wanneer uw ref weg gaan bij krijgbetaald.nl dan is het van zelf spreken dat deze uit uw donwline verdwijnen
inclusief de verdiensten die maand.

de punten zijn nu weg bij krijgbetaald.nl en worden vergoed voor cash hier is al een mailing oververstuurd,
eerder deze week.

Mocht er nog iets niet duidelijk zijn dan horen wij het graag.

We hopen u hier mee voldoende ingelicht te hebben.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Jeffrey Cafferata.

Krijgbetaald helpdesk.
[ Krijgbetaald.nl wenst een succesvol 2004 ]
----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: Jeffrey@krijgbetaald.nl
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: Krijgbetaald Contact Formulier


hey jeffrey

welke updater bedoel je ??
kijk dat er allemaal fouten zitten in het nieuwe 5.9.4 en 5.9.5 script weet ik zelf ook.
ook ik heb Tim hier 100e keren gevraagt om een oplossing maar ik hoor maar niets.
ik heb 2 site's met grote problemen en Tim is nergens ,maar mijn leden lopen wel weg.
neemt niet wegdat ik dus nu 4.2180 in de debit sta ( -4,2180) terwijl ik geen ad's of zo heb gekocht.
ook mijn referral is weg en zijn/haar verdienste.
ook had ik punten die ik nergens meer kan terug vinden ( alleen zo'n stom blokje links in het scherm met links )
dus je ziet ,na de 1ste mail sta ik nog meer in de - terwijl ik alleen maar een banner klik heb gedaan en niets gekocht.
dus dit kan eigenlijk niet.

breezer0111
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey@krijgbetaald.nl
To: Krijgbetaald
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Krijgbetaald Contact Formulier


Krijgbetaald.nl is aan het updaten maar in het nieuwe scripts zitten allemaal fouten
nu kan ik dehulpkaarjtes ook niet beantwoordenen en de updater is nergens te bekenen.

Hopen dat u hier begrip voor op kunt brengen.


to translete it read my first post please.
the last answere ill get from him was :

QUOTE
Beste ,

Waarom in de min staat weet ik niet dat moet u even kijken in uw geschiedenis
wanneer uw ref weg gaan bij krijgbetaald.nl dan is het van zelf spreken dat deze uit uw donwline verdwijnen
inclusief de verdiensten die maand.

de punten zijn nu weg bij krijgbetaald.nl en worden vergoed voor cash hier is al een mailing oververstuurd,
eerder deze week.

Mocht er nog iets niet duidelijk zijn dan horen wij het graag.

We hopen u hier mee voldoende ingelicht te hebben.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Jeffrey Cafferata.


it say's :
why your account is in debt i don't know, you need to look in your history.
when your ref's going away from krijgbetaald.nl then the disapear from your downline.
include all there earnings.

the points we have taken away just as we told you in our earlyer mailing,and you will get cash for that.

when there is something not clear to you please let us know.

this is basacly what the told me, hope i don't use wrong words.



only when i look in my history (it goes back a long time) then there is nothing to see why i am in a debt of $4.2180 dry.gif
the history page let me see 7.5 pages and nowhere that i can figur it ou where is my money.
so i also can not see where my points are or the money for my points.

so a thief of my money and a scam ,more i can not say about this program.
berm
I wouldn't sign up to a site with a name like that!
abner
mmm that does not sound good.

luckly for me that i went out some time ago

mmm his dutch is also (Waardeloos) not good

wel i hope it wil work out for you


abner
R92829
QUOTE (Breezer0111 @ Dec 25 2003, 05:55 PM)
ok first legendh

this is a dutch site and the PO/WM is a 12 years old boy.
the original country is the netherlands.



12 years old?????? You think a 12 year old is going to pay you money??????
Sorry but in this case I would have to say joining this site was a big error in judgement.

I'm totally stunned that you are shocked that a child can't run a business blink.gif or live up to financial obligations
blueice
Luckly I am not a member yet.
Thanks for providing this information.
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nadiaasoma
Maybe it's just for Dutch and Belgian members.
What do the terms say about that?

Marian

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lecoq69
Hi

I do not think this site is a fraud!

I reached payout 2 days ago and we will see if i get my money.

Also when i needed support from them, i always received a correct answer within a few hours, so no probs here.
Eldritch
I know we're very 'open' here but is it legal for a kid to have a business? I don't think so. His parents probably don't know about this, and they are legally responsible for him.
In any case, if something goes wrong, check his domain and contact the company that registered the domain and/or call his parents. The information is right there, phonenumbers and addresses. So IF it goes wrong, there are some options to pursue.

Eld.

Breezer0111
this is all the info i get from Whois.
so calling the parents isn't a optie.
this kid use a mobile phone and i think it's his own phone.
calling and you get him on the line and not the parents.

Domain name:
krijgbetaald.nl (next domain)

Status: active

Registrant:
BlueYellow
Driehuizerkerkweg 230
1985 HV DRIEHUIS NH
Netherlands

Domicile:
N/A

Committed to ADR: yes

Administrative contact:
N Buurman
+31 6 22944497
postmaster@allinpeter.nl

Registrar:
Increased Development /p
Heymansstraat 15
3076 CD ROTTERDAM
Netherlands

Technical contact:
M. de Clerck
+31 104920800
mike@idavc.com

Domain nameservers:
ns1.by009.net 66.227.12.159
ns2.by009.net 66.227.12.160

Date first registered: 30-01-2003
Record last updated: 18-09-2003
Record maintained by: NL Domain Registry
lecoq69
QUOTE (lecoq69 @ Dec 26 2003, 12:04 PM)
Hi

I do not think this site is a fraud!

I reached payout 2 days ago and we will see if i get my money.

Also when i needed support from them, i always received a correct answer within a few hours, so no probs here.

QUOTE


Hi y'all !

Just an update of my payout request.

I mailed them in the end of january when i was about to receive payment.

I got a quick answer that they always pay on the 22 of each month, but with the payout of january something went wrong. They would look in to it.

In the beginning of february i placed a trouble ticket.
The answer: we will look in to it.

Trought the Dutch Getpaidboard( forum) i also said this in a topic.

The answer: mail to mike@krijgbetaald.nl and your problem will be solved.

One week later i again asked about my payment in this forum.

Answer: Mike does not work anymore, so mail to jeffrey@krijgbetaald.nl.

I did and the answer was: i have send your mail to the 'head' of our company, he will deal with it.

So far: nothing, payout request was 2 months ago.


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