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Eac397
Can someone tell me the difference between a CAC script and other ones
People always bad mouth Cac scripts
I like to know why????
cheese
this isn't really a newbie question, eac.....
Eac397
Well what kind of question do you expect

Whats a computer
or
How come this pointy thing moves on the screen when i move the mouse
WildcatSany
maybe stuff like this
How to Participate a Signup Thread?
cheese
QUOTE (Eac397 @ Sep 16 2002, 01:53 PM)
Well what kind of question do you expect

Whats a computer
or
How come this pointy thing moves on the screen when i move the mouse

no.. i expect newbie questions about GPT programs.. you know, the reason why this folder was created. wow, what a thought!

there's no need to be a smart a**
cheese
QUOTE (WildcatSany @ Sep 16 2002, 02:13 PM)
maybe stuff like this
How to Participate a Signup Thread?

at least someone understands aa.gif
WildcatSany
thanks
Brenda@PJ
Actually, then, there needs to be some guidance on that. I thought it was a pretty good question. I mean, the rest of us know about CAC cgi-scripts vs. php etc. but really, the debate is so entrenched that perhaps a lot of people don't know WHY we complain about CAC scripts.

Heck, I don't know why we complain about a lot of things... hmmm....
eln143
CAC and MEC sites both have their downfalls and also their good points. It's just a matter of who likes what. It is everyones own indvidual opinion.
astrangemix
QUOTE (Eac397 @ Sep 16 2002, 04:31 PM)
Can someone tell me the difference between a CAC script and other ones
People always bad mouth Cac scripts
I like to know why????

The majority of scripts have differences either because they are written by different people and/or they perform different features in different ways.

As for CAC, in my case, and I think alot of other members, our only real problem is the fact that a member can work really hard to build a downline and then lose it, and his/her earnings, when someone below you is deleted/unsubscribes. Some webmasters are willing to help correct this problem, when possible, but it does require extra work on their part & I believe it's also necessary/helpful if the member knows who was in their downline. With the Mec scripts this is not an issue since only that one member would disappear and all your other referrals & earnings would stay intact and your downline automatically adjusts itself.
eln143
It's the same with the CAC sites.
cheese
QUOTE (Brenda@PJ @ Sep 16 2002, 09:33 PM)
Actually, then, there needs to be some guidance on that. I thought it was a pretty good question. I mean, the rest of us know about CAC cgi-scripts vs. php etc. but really, the debate is so entrenched that perhaps a lot of people don't know WHY we complain about CAC scripts.

Heck, I don't know why we complain about a lot of things... hmmm....

it IS a good question aa.gif just not something i've ever heard a newbie ask before.. he seems to know what the scripts are, just not their differences... *shrugs* oh well!!

also, i know nothing about either of these, LOL so if someone tried to explain the differences, i would still be fairly lost.. to me, this was a question that someone who's knowledgeable in this area would ask..

but i'll leave it here for the heck of it, LMAO ad.gif ab.gif ae.gif JK!!

~cheese ao.gif
astrangemix
QUOTE (eln143 @ Sep 17 2002, 01:05 AM)
It's the same with the CAC sites.

I'm not sure what you are referring to. If you mean the downline automatically adjusts itself, then this must be a recent addition because it wasn't always like that. I've also seen posts where the creator of CAC has stated that people who bought his sites after a certain date can no longer modify them so unless this is an upgrade put out by him any program owners who bought after the aforementioned date can not use this fix.
astrangemix
QUOTE (cheese @ Sep 17 2002, 01:12 AM)
also, i know nothing about either of these, LOL so if someone tried to explain the differences, i would still be fairly lost.. to me, this was a question that someone who's knowledgeable in this area would ask..

I can see why someone would ask because of all the posts on CAC & Mec scripts. As for the exact differences I think only someone who has worked with both scripts as a programmer could really give an accurate description and to be truthful I doubt most of us members care as long as our accounts are not adversely affected by the script in question.
eln143
QUOTE (astrangemix @ Sep 17 2002, 01:21 AM)
I'm not sure what you are referring to. If you mean the downline automatically adjusts itself, then this must be a recent addition because it wasn't always like that. I've also seen posts where the creator of CAC has stated that people who bought his sites after a certain date can no longer modify them so unless this is an upgrade put out by him any program owners who bought after the aforementioned date can not use this fix.

Yes. I don't know how recent it is because I purchased my site back in July.
BaroqueXena
So why don't we go right back to basics with this question.

Why do you have to put your username/email address in for some sites and other sites have a little bar with a counter on top?
astrangemix
QUOTE (BaroqueXena @ Sep 17 2002, 04:06 AM)
Why do you have to put your username/email address in for some sites and other sites have a little bar with a counter on top?

Do you mean sites with different scripts (this could be why) or sites with the same script?
BaroqueXena
ok, pretend I'm a newbie. Some sites have petrack in the link and you have to put your username in, others have runner in the link and they have a bar with a counter.
astrangemix
QUOTE (BaroqueXena @ Sep 17 2002, 04:25 AM)
ok, pretend I'm a newbie. Some sites have petrack in the link and you have to put your username in, others have runner in the link and they have a bar with a counter.

1st, I'm not a programmer. This is just my understanding of it.

The script on some sites is written with a command to recognize your computer when it visits (runners). To do this the script would also have to write a command to "the server"? (Just a guess) to store your computer's "fingerprint" so it can recognize you (a smart cookie?). With the petrack link the "server" doesn't have to recognize you since you have to give the "server" your info each time. The script is only required to have a database that it can match the info you give it to to verify that you are indeed a member.

For every feature a site has there is a code/script to tell the "server" what to do, how to do it, when to do it,...etc. A good site, with a good and experienced programmer, will also have commands for different computer types & browsers. Putting together a well scripted site can be very complicated if you're learning as you go along not to mention extremely time consuming. For alot of people, especially those just starting out, the simpler the script the easier it is to maintain.

So the simple answer is sites with petrack do not have a script/code to automatically recognize your computer.
Niels
I'm a programmer and i could tell a little about the differences i know of.

CAC sites is sites made by a company named Create A Click, they are the scripts most sites use right now but they are getting overrun by Cashcrusader(Myecom) scripts, the big disadvantages people are talking about with CAC is the referral system, when one of your referrals quit (or get deleted for inactivity)you lose all the earnings by this member.

Cashcrusader(Myecom) scripts is the new scripts which is many ways is much better than the old CAC ones, for example you keep all earnings made by a referral that quits or get deleted.

Now the question about the logging system, as you said it is based around cookies, when you login for the first time a little file gets saved on your computer (cookies for those that knows what they are) that stores information (in this case email/username and password) and saves it for next time you log in.

This is smart because if you get a lot of mails you don't have to enter your email address (which gets very boring with the CAC scripts)
BaroqueXena
This is the kind of language that I like, plain and straightforward and easy to understand. A lot of people here don't know anything about programming, me included, so if anyone posted a reply with lots of jargon and initials then it would be good for the people already involved with the programs, but not for newbies or anyone else like me.
Eac397
FOLLOW UP
Is it at all possible for anyone to make a script out of scratch
or it has to be one of these companies[U][/U]
EMailCashFrenzy
Also BaroqueXena... some of us have purchased a timer script to make it easier on the members and to assure the advertisers site gets properly viewed. In the php CAC sites, the newer ones, whether the member has to put in their email address or not is simply the way the link is written. It can be written both ways, where you do put in your email address or where you don't. It's up to the webmaster. I'm not sure if it's the same for the cgi version of CAC's.

There's good and bad to be seen of all scripts. It basically depends on what a person likes and/or what the webmaster can afford at the time of purchase.

Personally, the scripts don't play a big part in if I sign up for a program or not. The payout, referral levels, etc are my deciding factors.
astrangemix
QUOTE (Eac397 @ Sep 17 2002, 01:02 PM)
Is it at all possible for anyone to make a script out of scratch

Most people could eventually but it's like any other skill - what you put into it is what you get out of it. To be able to create new scripts you'd have to understand the languages and all their "grammar" so I'm guessing it would take alot of work on your part. It might be better to get a basic script template that you can then modify to suit your needs. There are lots of places on the net where you can get free scripts, most just require that you leave the owner's name in the code. You just have to collect them and incorporate them into your site to have all the extras.
cheese
QUOTE (astrangemix @ Sep 16 2002, 10:29 PM)
As for the exact differences I think only someone who has worked with both scripts as a programmer could really give an accurate description

my point exactly.. if you have to be really knowledgable of these scripts to answer the question, then you have to know more then a newbie to be able to understand that answer ae.gif
Eac397
Well i am determined
went down to the library and got a book on active server pages for beginers
Also got some other web programming books
Might be a couple of years though
Rome wasn't built in a day you know
Eac397
And now i am a senior member
only adding to my determination
Thank you cheese
YBonline
There are other ways to do it as well...

In addition to the MEC way of storing it in a cookie (which requires that you do not delete your cookies and that you have cookies enabled, which not everyone truely has enabled because soem people are too paranoid), some sites and scripts like GPS only submit the usernames through the querystring (?nick=bla or whatever) which means it is only requiring that you have a full web address that you click on, and no client side technology (such as cookies) that can easily get messed up...
octo4
so if the scripts remember your computer does that mean you can't get points/credit if you use another computer/internet cafes?
BaroqueXena
Yes, you can but you would have to log in again first.

However, this is not to be recommended in an internet cafe as the cookies will be on the computer and anyone else could access your account.
baph0met
YB: I wouldn't call cookies "client-side technology", they're just one mean of session tracking. And if you don't have cookies enabled you'd just have to log in every time. Big deal
Eac397
This cookies you speak of
are you speaking metaphorically
or is somebody giving out cookies on the internet
zOla
LOL yeah, the cookie monster gives them out! Didn't you know? ab.gif
Eac397
Is there a cookie Monster
or
is this a way to make fun of me
BaroqueXena
You're seriously trying to say you've never watched Sesame Street? Every child should have watched that. And no, I'm not calling you a child but you must have been one once.
baph0met
QUOTE (Eac397 @ Sep 19 2002, 04:54 PM)
This cookies you speak of
are you speaking metaphorically
or is somebody giving out cookies on the internet

http://www.cookiecentral.com/faq/
Eac397
QUOTE (BaroqueXena @ Sep 21 2002, 04:43 PM)
You're seriously trying to say you've never watched Sesame Street? Every child should have watched that. And no, I'm not calling you a child but you must have been one once.

I spent my childhood years working in a Shoe Factory
Niels
It is possible to make a script yourself, i started making one a long time ago but i didn't have enough money to pay for hosting.
I suggest you to use PHP/mySQL instead of ASP, i have tried both languages and my conclusion is that PHP is much easier, also it shouldn't take years to learn to do programming, i learnt the basic stuff in 5 days and i had developed some database stuff a month later.
If you want any help about PHP feel free to PM me, but i don't know ASP anymore so i can't help you there.
Having said that ASP uses access databases which is a bit easier but the language itself is harder if you ask me.

And yes some programs add your nick as a variable to the URL, smart way to do it, but i still like cookies more.
marius26
QUOTE (eln143 @ Sep 17 2002, 12:39 PM)
CAC and MEC sites both have their downfalls and also their good points. It's just a matter of who likes what. It is everyones own indvidual opinion.

you are 100% right, like me i dont see the difference, when they screw they screw i dont care what script it is as long as it works perfectly. if it doesnt its crap,
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