Get Paid Forum - Get Paid Discussion

jss

Dec 17 2003, 12:35 PM

oh no

this is the second time i lost my earning in this bad week

i lost earning more than i received
first time i lost about 10$ with the bad site kristylou

and now i lost about 10$ too with this site nute-case-mail

iam was (an active & honest) member in this site

i reached 10$ in my account (minimum payout is 10$)

and i have 25 referrals

i requested payment 3 days ago

and today when i tried to log into my account
it said the password is wrong
finally i knew that my account is surely deleted

so i tried to contact the nute-case-mail webmaster

but i discovered that his email don,t exist

QUOTE

Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:16:52 -0500

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es)
failed:

blackhole@server3noc.lucidityhosting.com
(generated from support@nut-case-mail.com)
Unrouteable address

i think this is a scam company
but i hope not

naama

Dec 17 2003, 02:28 PM

It is not a scam for sure.

I would try to reach the WM their contact form on the site.

LilPrincess

Dec 17 2003, 02:33 PM

Hi jss...

First of all... I have been a member of Nut-Case-Mail for a while now. And I have had nothing but good experiences being a member. All communication from the webmaster has been fast and friendly. I HAVE BEEN PAID PROMPTLY.

I have a suspicion of what happened. Last night or today I noticed that he has put up a Cheat link -banner in the Paid-to-click section of the site. It is NOT at the end but in the middle of other banners with the value of 0.25 cents. I almost clicked it myself!! But it says very clearly "DO NOT CLICK. YOUR ACCOUNT WILL BE DELETED". Have you clicked on those banners yesterday or today???

Other than that... If I'm right, his cheat links are always -$10. So is it possible you clicked on a a regular cheat link first and then on the cheat link in the Paid-to-click section???

I really don't believe that he would have deleted your account without any reason. I really think you have clicked on the cheat banner. Or you have otherwise broken the rules.

Oh and btw, I have gotten that same error for e-mail addresses on his site a couple of times. But when I have tried again, it worked just fine. If it doesn't, try admin@nut-case-mail.com .

fun4moms

Dec 17 2003, 05:01 PM

How did ya'll even reach payout at this site. I have been member for about 5 months and have $3. It will take me another year at that rate. But at higher paying site have already reached payouts of anywhere from $5 to $50. how is it worth it to click for a year and a half for $10, when it takes a few months for $50?

LilPrincess

Dec 17 2003, 05:07 PM

fun4moms...

I have only been a member for 2 or 3 months and I have been paid once... and now I have over $4 in my account again.

Do you have peanuts (cheap mails) selected? And do you do the Paid2clicks on the site? I do both pretty regularly and have reached payout easy without referrals (Just got 1 referral this weekend)

jss

Dec 17 2003, 10:50 PM

iam a member on ptr sites from 5 months
and this is the first time i click a cheat link by mistake

and when i click it i lose 10$

that is too hard

any way i will try to contact him

oh
i tried to sent to him to
admin@nut-case-mail.com
but it is the same problem

email address didn,t exist
if any one know how can i contact him,plz tell me

naama

Dec 18 2003, 12:20 AM

QUOTE (jss @ Dec 18 2003, 12:50 PM)

email address didn,t exist
if any one know how can i contact him,plz tell me

As I have suggested before, use the contact form at his site.

duchess

Dec 18 2003, 12:55 AM

Try this one.
advertising@paid-email-from-the-great-white-north.com

it was on paypal confirmaition letter.

serenemom

Dec 18 2003, 02:08 AM

The best, fastest and easiest way to get a hold of Randy is to post in his support folder at www.gptboycott.com

Patricia

luvaizen

Dec 18 2003, 07:39 AM

QUOTE (naama @ Dec 18 2003, 02:20 PM)

QUOTE (jss @ Dec 18 2003, 12:50 PM)

email address didn,t exist
if any one know how can i contact him,plz tell me

As I have suggested before, use the contact form at his site.

Hi,

I know your trying to help but there is not contact form in the site so he cant do that cause the contact from dont exists

But what comes to my attention is that before when you go to the contact he have listed a copntact emaild addy there and isnt there now

Good luck

LilPrincess

Dec 18 2003, 07:54 AM

advertising@nut-case-mail.com

Still seems to work. My e-mail went through...

metijo3

Dec 18 2003, 10:04 AM

I am very unimpressed by that cheat link. It sometimes takes a while to load and it's not easily noticed amongst the others and with no second chances, I think it stinks. April Golds has done a similar thing, only hers looks like a real link with the finger pointing the same as the banners. One wrong click, or one tired day and you're out. We have no power at all with these sites.

naama

Dec 18 2003, 01:42 PM

QUOTE (luvaizen @ Dec 18 2003, 09:39 PM)

QUOTE (naama @ Dec 18 2003, 02:20 PM)

QUOTE (jss @ Dec 18 2003, 12:50 PM)

email address didn,t exist
if any one know how can i contact him,plz tell me

As I have suggested before, use the contact form at his site.

Hi,

I know your trying to help but there is not contact form in the site so he cant do that cause the contact from dont exists

But what comes to my attention is that before when you go to the contact he have listed a copntact emaild addy there and isnt there now

Good luck

Wow, luvaizen, you are right. I did check the site and saw the 'contact' link. I didn't think to check, but I did now, following your post. This is what it reads:

QUOTE

We will no longer be responding to these type of support emails as they are all answered in the TERMS.

Email from NON MEMBERS

Terms Violations and Deleted Accounts

Complaints

Payment Questions

Search Questions

Password Recovery Requests

Email Change Requests

Any rude or agressive type emails

special treatment or exceptions to terms

charity (begging for free ads,money,early payout ect...

questions about other sites or webmasters

questions about other sites we own

personal info questions

Gibberish
advertising questions as there is an address for that

Absolutely unbelievable. I have not found any email address on that site. So, this is a site that has no support for it's members.

Sorry, that's not acceptable, so I have just quit that site.

And I can only congratulate myself on my decision, because this is what the confirmation page read:

QUOTE

BYE BYE!! Don't let the door hit you in the ######!!!!

I should have quit this program much earlier. Certainly not interested to be a member of a site listing such crap.

nana2camren

Dec 18 2003, 02:07 PM

QUOTE (metijo3 @ Dec 18 2003, 10:04 AM)

I am very unimpressed by that cheat link. It sometimes takes a while to load and it's not easily noticed amongst the others and with no second chances, I think it stinks. April Golds has done a similar thing, only hers looks like a real link with the finger pointing the same as the banners. One wrong click, or one tired day and you're out. We have no power at all with these sites.

How is it not easily noticed - it states in big bright red letters on a white background "do not click your account will be deleted". Can't get much more obvious than that!

Even with dsl some of the banners at nutcase don't load for me. I chose not to click on them since I do not know what I will be clicking. Sure I may be losing the opportunity to earn a few cents, but if I don't know what I'm clicking I would rather not take the chance. It could be a cheat link or even a search link when I don't feel like doing a search.

If it doesn't load for you just don't click it.

metijo3

Dec 18 2003, 07:35 PM

Well nanacamren, my biggest complaint is that there are no second chances when it comes to clicking on these links. I also have DSL, but the links don't always load or take a long time. If I'm unsure, then I don't click, but when they just appear out of the blue one day, then it could have been an easy thing to do. I just think that it's a way of getting rid of members when sites are down on cash.

I'm not talking about genuine cheaters, but I mean an accidental click and there is no discussion. Most of the people who would click on those links do not cheat. I haven't clicked on a cheat link (yet

) but I really feel for those who do, who are genuine and who do it only once. Some sites have a three chance policy, which is much fairer and makes people more aware of cheat links and others deduct some earnings, which I also think is fair.

How can you not miss it? Quite easily if you might be on dial-up and your computer is slow, or if you have dyslexia. One cheat link and you're out is very unfair, because it could happen to anyone.

As for the person who unsubscribed and got that message (sorry, your name eludes me), you did the right thing! How rude of any WM to leave a message like that! Normally you get the 'sorry to see you go' message.

I haven't had any trouble with nut-case-mail with payouts and I am coming up to payout in a few days. I also noticed that April Golds has taken off the cheat link.
The obvious ones in email are not easily missed, but the ones on the ptc section are in my opinion.

airyn1

Dec 18 2003, 09:11 PM

QUOTE (naama @ Dec 18 2003, 12:42 PM)

QUOTE

BYE BYE!! Don't let the door hit you in the ######!!!!

tigika

Dec 19 2003, 02:42 AM

There are at least 5 to 6 banners on this site that has broken image on their links. I refused to click on them because I have totally no idea if this is a cheat link or not. Can anyone tell me if a broken image stands for a cheat link on this site?

Thank you.

LilPrincess

Dec 19 2003, 03:29 AM

tigika...

I clicked on all banners except for the one that is the cheat link on red/white yesterday morning.

Now that I think of it, it was VERY stupid of me. But at least then there weren't any cheat links except for that one... and a few were broken images.

I think I wouldn't click on the broken images now though...

honest

Dec 19 2003, 07:26 AM

my account deleted,and I can't contact them,
I think its a scam.

princessah

Dec 19 2003, 10:01 AM

Have any of you gotten mail from him lately? I havent got any in days and i sent an ad request a week or sop ago and havent heard anything back, just the auto responder
of course i sent out 3 other ad requests that day and only 1 is running

but with 1 i know what the problem is at least
the other 2 (and nutcase) who the heck knows

LilPrincess

Dec 19 2003, 10:07 AM

I heard from him last week. And I sent out an ad which he posted Wed.

I still have some banner impressions and PTCs which should run but haven't been posted yet.

When I first saw this string, I thought it was just another in the line of many... but now I have to admit that I'm getting a bit worried too...

Narkolog

Dec 19 2003, 05:47 PM

At me was more than 90 referrals.
Today them became 16. WHAT HAPPENED???!!!!

rakfej

Dec 19 2003, 05:50 PM

Maybe you've failed an english test click

But to be serious I've lost 11 myself...

bluelady

Dec 19 2003, 05:54 PM

this program nut-case-mail is definetly a scam. i have been a honest and active member. i am sure i did not click a cheat link and i had almost $10.00 it says my info is invalid. he just did not want to pay. i wish i would never wasted my time on this.STAY AWAY

Salteh

Dec 20 2003, 10:45 PM

Hmmm. Nut-case has had the best ad responses of anywhere for me.

Broken images? Right-click and choose Show Picture. If the image was valid it will reload.

nana2camren

Dec 20 2003, 11:02 PM

QUOTE (Salteh @ Dec 20 2003, 10:45 PM)

Broken images? Right-click and choose Show Picture. If the image was valid it will reload.

I just tried this hint and the images still don't load for me. But your post did remind me of another way to see what the banner is for --can't believe I forgot and had been skipping these, especially since I had given this hint in another thread awhile back. I think my computer is wiping out my brain cells

Anyway, right-click on the banner and choose properties. There you will see the url address of the banner.

Salteh

Dec 21 2003, 12:01 AM

Correct, but it won't show you where the link goes to, because it would be http://blahblahpaid-to-read.com/runner/whatever123456789 which might be valid, or might be a cheat link, and you'd never know. Hopefully Blah Blah paid-to-read don't host their cheat banner anywhere else!

zhx895

Dec 21 2003, 12:03 AM

QUOTE

advertising <advertising@nut-case-mail.com> wrote:
CHEATING!
----- Original Message -----
From: "zhx892"
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 7:58 AM
Subject: Purchase request for advertising

>
> referrer:
>
> name: huangxing zhang
>
> username: zhx895
>
> ad_type: other
>
> pay: other
>
> ad_info: I can't login now,why do you delete me?Please reply
>
> webmaster@nut-case-mail.com wrote: Your downline is invalid.
>
> As I stated this will take time.
>
> Please be patient as i am not accusing you of anything.
>
> However I will not pay out downline earnings that came from a cheat with
over 100 accounts.
>
> Thanks
> Mr.Crazy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ?? ??
> To: redemptions
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Redemption request for advertising
>
>
> I'm a good member, I joined from Downline Builder of GPF,
> http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...ic=49768&st=255
> Nugget210 and dymycy76 are my the frist refs
> http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...topic=86459&hl=
> please check
>
>
> This is my the second to apply for to pay,I'm not a cheat and I do of very
work hard, hope you can as soon as possible use PayPal to me to pay,I have
replied to you,please reply to me
>
> redemptions wrote: Hello,
> You have not been paid yet because your downline contains 100+ fraudualant
> accounts.
>
> I will let you know soon unless you have an answer for this.
>
> Where did you get this downline? Where did you advertise us? As someone is
> cheating and need to find out what is going on.
> Thanks
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "zhx892"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:24 PM
> Subject: Redemption request for advertising
>
>
> >
> > username: zhx895
> >
> > ad_info: Payment requested!Thanks
> > Hi,
> > Here is the info
> > my id is zhx895 ,my account balance: $10
> > Payment account: My PayPal # is : zhx892@yahoo.com.cn
> > Please paid me ASAP.
> > (I requested payment last time When my account had 3$,but you don not
paid
> me)
> > [. $ 3.00 Min Payout for all members (Paypal members auto paid monthly
on
> the 15th when min reached!)]
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Have a nice day!
> > Regard
>
> agree_type: Yes

Nut-case-mail is a scam company,it don't want to pay to member.

Salteh

Dec 21 2003, 12:14 AM

Excuse me, I see NOTHING unreasonable in the email you posted. You don't explain why you have 100 cheaters in your downline. I can see that English is not your first language so maybe you don't understand him. He asked you to explain and he asked you for time to get to the bottom of the matter. He did not delete you straight away. You have cheaters in your downline and he gave you a chance to explain where they came from. You chose not to explain. That's your fault. How about you learn English? It is not your fault you are not a native speaker, but you have no right to accuse people of being scammers just because you can't read ENGLISH.

nana2camren

Dec 21 2003, 01:04 AM

QUOTE (Salteh @ Dec 21 2003, 12:01 AM)

Correct, but it won't show you where the link goes to, because it would be http://blahblahpaid-to-read.com/runner/whatever123456789 which might be valid, or might be a cheat link, and you'd never know. Hopefully Blah Blah paid-to-read don't host their cheat banner anywhere else!

Look at the top of the box that comes up when you click properties, not at spot where it says address(url). It does show what website it will take you to or at least it does for me. I even did it on the cheat link just to see what comes up and this is what is says at the top of the box:

runner.php?REDIRECT=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nut-case-mail.com%2Fimages%2Fcheat.bmp

Here's an example of what I see in properties on another banner that won't load:

runner.php?REDIRECT=http%3A%2F%2Fv4.livegate.net%2Farboga%2Fgsearch.gif

So you can see one is a cheat link, the other is a search link.

Salteh

Dec 21 2003, 04:04 AM

Dang - most of them don't show a redirect - I am guilty of assuming

Thanks for letting me know!

biguow

Dec 21 2003, 04:32 AM

i have been paid over $50. i always get respons to my question.

ads i send in today are send out tommorow.

no complaints here.

and yes my downline went down to from over 300 to a little more dan 125

i do not mind, inactives and cheaters to be removed from my downline.
inactives don't bring anything anyhow and cheaters take money wich belongs to people who don't cheat.

my 2 cents

lautuxxx

Dec 21 2003, 02:57 PM

i made over 10$ in 2 mounths ....

i use all my earnings for advertising ...

QUOTE

i have been paid over $50. i always get respons to my question.

ads i send in today are send out tommorow.

no complaints here.

he send my ad after 14 days

two days ago i have 100 referrals and now i can't login ...

maybe i click the cheat link ?

i don't think that the wm think to the members that have at home a bad internet conections that not allow the gif banner to load in shrt time ...
Sometimes i must to wait 10-20 seconds to see the banner(even more)

AND IT WAS A +(yeah ... a "+")+++++ 0.25 cents

OMG...

bye bye mr. nut and i think mr.crazy(his second program)

zhx895

Dec 21 2003, 10:05 PM

QUOTE (Salteh @ Dec 21 2003, 02:14 PM)

Excuse me, I see NOTHING unreasonable in the email you posted. You don't explain why you have 100 cheaters in your downline. I can see that English is not your first language so maybe you don't understand him. He asked you to explain and he asked you for time to get to the bottom of the matter. He did not delete you straight away. You have cheaters in your downline and he gave you a chance to explain where they came from. You chose not to explain. That's your fault. How about you learn English? It is not your fault you are not a native speaker, but you have no right to accuse people of being scammers just because you can't read ENGLISH.

I have explained because I have only 2 refs in my first downline,they're Nugget210 and dymycy76,the others are all in my second downline,i can't know where they come from.He delete me is wrong,he must delete the cheaters

whatever

Dec 22 2003, 12:40 AM

More I read, more it looks like something bad is going on. Like cheat links banners in the ptc that don't load. Not responding to some members messages. Rapid deleting of accounts. Why? Wm attitude? Unplaned or by intent? Be nice if he would post and explain here whats going on.

moonieb

Dec 22 2003, 01:11 AM

I find nothing wrong with Randy...yes sometimes he takes a while to respond and he has his reasons which he lets us know in his e-mails IF you read them!

His site is not a scam........

Why must people label a site a cheat if they get deleted for doing something wrong?...sour grapes I think.

amysrewards4mail

Dec 22 2003, 02:05 AM

It's well known Randy doesn't post at this forum anymore. Try GPTBoycott as I believe he has support folders there.

whatever

Dec 22 2003, 04:29 AM

QUOTE (moonieb @ Dec 22 2003, 03:11 PM)

I find nothing wrong with Randy...yes sometimes he takes a while to respond and he has his reasons which he lets us know in his e-mails IF you read them!

His site is not a scam........

Why must people label a site a cheat if they get deleted for doing something wrong?...sour grapes I think.

Sounds like you didn't take the time to read all the members posts. I didn't know it was engraved in stone that members are always delted because they did something wrong.
This forum is filled with posts by members who have been deleted and did nothing wrong.

Didn't you even see this post?

metijo3 Posted: Dec 19 2003, 12:04 AM

Members

Group: Members
Posts: 23
Member No.: 15215
Joined: 7-September 03

I am very unimpressed by that cheat link. It sometimes takes a while to load and it's not easily noticed amongst the others and with no second chances, I think it stinks. April Golds has done a similar thing, only hers looks like a real link with the finger pointing the same as the banners. One wrong click, or one tired day and you're out. We have no power at all with these sites.

Its a poorly design cheat link thats hard to see and doesn't load very well.

metijo3

Dec 22 2003, 04:54 AM

Having just been quoted, I will say that April Golds doesn't have the cheat link anymore, so that's a relief. I have just reached payout at nut-case-mail and I am worried about that cheat link. Even dsl doesn't always load quickly enough. I haven't emailed Randy about it though and I have always had polite replies when I have. I am just being very, very careful, but I still dislike intensely being at the mercy of one cheat link. A lot of clicking and a lot of time could just go down the tubes by clicking one link with no second chances. As I said before, a 50c reduction or a three strikes and you're out, but a cheat link where there wasn't one before is wrong IMHO.

myriahwind37

Dec 22 2003, 10:45 AM

I have been a member of nut case since June and just reached my $10 payout since I have no referrals. I asked for cash out 2 days ago and now am no longer able to log into my account. It even says my e-mail address is not in their data base. Funny, it was in there all the time I was doing the clicks but not there now that I have asked for my money. I tried contacting them thru the website but that is an impossibility as it goes now where. I have emailed the webmaster but have gotten no response that way either. I have lost money before thru sites disappearing but this is the first time I have been deleted because I asked for my money. Very maddening.

whatever

Dec 22 2003, 12:26 PM

QUOTE (myriahwind37 @ Dec 23 2003, 12:45 AM)

I have been a member of nut case since June and just reached my $10 payout since I have no referrals. I asked for cash out 2 days ago and now am no longer able to log into my account. It even says my e-mail address is not in their data base. Funny, it was in there all the time I was doing the clicks but not there now that I have asked for my money. I tried contacting them thru the website but that is an impossibility as it goes now where. I have emailed the webmaster but have gotten no response that way either. I have lost money before thru sites disappearing but this is the first time I have been deleted because I asked for my money. Very maddening.

Sorry to hear that happen to you. That just reeks, just like wm posting support for this wm that conduct themselfs in such a dishonest manner.

bluelady

Dec 23 2003, 12:41 AM

QUOTE (moonieb @ Dec 22 2003, 02:11 AM)

I find nothing wrong with Randy...yes sometimes he takes a while to respond and he has his reasons which he lets us know in his e-mails IF you read them!

His site is not a scam........

Why must people label a site a cheat if they get deleted for doing something wrong?...sour grapes I think.

i did nothing wrong all i did was get to payout when i got deleted.

princessah

Dec 23 2003, 01:21 AM

a week n a half later my ad still hasnt ran and he hasnt responded to my mail either

yousmellbad

Dec 23 2003, 11:46 AM

i am upset too. I used to suppost nut case all the time. I have been paid over $25 dollars, had a downline over 200 people. I reached the $10 cashout in nov and had been waiting patienly for my money. I go to log in on Monday and NO account found. I do not do paid to clicks, so I know i did not click that. I cant find a mail to write and ask, not that it would do much good. Something smells about this site.....

Geldwolfje

Dec 23 2003, 02:11 PM

I redeemed at 3$ when the payout was 3$.
I waited 6 weeks and asked if the redemprtion was recorded.

Never got any answer. Aad now I have to continue to 10$.

I read some of his posts here and Randy has diffulculties how to commincate on a forum or to his members.

Maybe he is honest, but he makes stranges moves, and deletes members to fast.. that's for sure!

If the guy wants to be apro , he first have to learn to act like one. I agree with the topic starter, but I am afraid there is nothing you can do anymore.

whatever

Dec 23 2003, 02:14 PM

More and more people keep reporting the same story. If the wm cannot post here in this forum. You would think he would at least post about this in others forums explaining what is going on. He must be receiving messages from members, so why is he not posting anywhere?

Miki

Dec 25 2003, 12:10 AM

I am sorry about all of your accounts being deleted. Randy has paid me several times when the payout was $3 and a few days ago I was able to request a $10 payout which he sent to me within hours. I love this site, the banners no because even with cable they still do not load properly.

Goodluck and happy holidays

myriahwind37

Dec 27 2003, 12:25 AM

Quote: "I find nothing wrong with Randy...yes sometimes he takes a while to respond and he has his reasons which he lets us know in his e-mails IF you read them! His site is not a scam........ Why must people label a site a cheat if they get deleted for doing something wrong?...sour grapes I think. "

What makes you think we did something wrong? I have never cheated and was deleted and have attempted several times to find out why I was deleted...to no avail. I have never used the word scam towards any WM...including the ones that disappeared but think it very wrong to delete someone's account and then refuse to acknowledge them when they want to know why. Scam? I don't know. Rude...definitely!!!

earners

Dec 27 2003, 02:49 AM

Yep, more and more people keep complaining.

I had 340 referrals, now I have zero

I have written to him, no reply.

This is a program owner who through his own admission cannot afford to pay members so raises his minimim from $3 to $10. He also promises to send higher value links to make up for it but all we get is mostly 1/4 cent links and searches.

This is a program owner that now seems to refuse to communicate with his members.

This is a program owner that seems to delete members when they reach payout or for no reason at all.

Yet here we are with people saying it is a good program with a reliable owner who pays!

Right, what a load of crap!

Tell you what's happening eh, many members have now reached the new $10 minimum and he cannot pay! Hence the deletions........

Wake up people!

serenemom

Dec 27 2003, 03:36 AM

Just for curosity sake, how many of you have attempted to use Randy's support folder at GPTBoycott.com to contact him regarding your accounts?

Do none of his members know he has a support folder there or are they simply not reading posts made by others regarding this fact?

If you must contact him and no other ways are available I think the logical thing would be to post there.

www.gptboycott.com for those who need the link to the main site.

Patricia