AHA! Finally! I have had my share of sour dealings with the owner of Zaraditenovac, but after reading about how great they were on this very forum, I thought, well, OK, I will join.

Hah! That optimism was short lived!

"Hi Brenda, Zaraditenovac has refused to pay me 30 cents so I guess he/she are not being truthful about the minimum payout, here is a reply I got:

E-mail message

From: payments@zaraditenovac.com (Zaradite Novac) Date: Sat, Apr 13,
2002, 9:39am To:
Subject: Re:
Money Request Canceled
You can go on court if you want to accused me for DISCRIMINATION,I am readdy and my lawyers too!
But when you joined to you were agree with
term! What`s gonna happened if 10000-s people request money like you? Who can control that?
The way I`m workong I control my busines,so if the person don`t like same person can unsubscribe!
Thanks
Miodrag Filipovic
http://www.zaraditenovac.com

So then it is false advertising? your FAQ says no minimum and the reason I have requested this low amount is because a long as I have one direct
deposit into my bank acct. then I am not charged a monthly fee, however you have chosen not to live up to your promise, so I will not read one
more email from you and shallnot promote you on my site any longer and if I wanted to open a website like yours at least I would be honest, I
find you extremely rude, Isigned up under someone that said you paid him 4 cents, this is called DISCRIMINATION."

Heh heh, now this guy was the SAME 'webmaster' who THREATENED to report me to the FBI because I wouldn't give him an IP address and he accused me of spamming because he was signed up for PocketJingle. Heh heh. He has NO sense of customer service, and although I am sorry that I promoted his program, I am glad this member sent me this information so that I could get out before *I* got burned too!

Zaradite payed me 16 cents but deducted a 16 cent fee. LOL, leaving me with zero.

If you like the no minimum companies. Web-earners has paid me every month. Opt-in-pays also paid me my four cents. :smile: I know it is not much but I was impressed with their honesty.

I know Zaradite was creepy and paid me my 16 cents and then made a 16 cent fee. Both web-earners and opt-in-pays paid me very small amounts and paypal did not even deduct anything.

Anyway, maybe the Zaradite people messed up when they paid me. They might be better off paying people monthly or something if they hate all the requests.

Melinda =^..^=

(i had to edit this because I spelled something wrong. I probably left other things spelled wrong too.)

[ 04-16-2002: Message edited by: melsbasketcase ]

I have been paid twice by Zaraditenovac, both small amounts less than $1.

I have also been paid by them with no fees that I have seen. Other than not being able to understand some of their e-mails, I have had no problems with them.
Sorry.

Hey, don't be sorry! I was just letting everyone know about THIS particular members' experience, and my own. It's good to point out that they aren't TOTALLY not paying people.

It is a shame that they will pay some and not others. That isn't right!! :mad:

i can understand you.
but can you give some good website?

Well, two that I can think of off the top of my head: PocketJingle.net and Tombmailer.com Then there is MulahMail.com, CompDough.com, E-mailPaysU.com. Just to name a few that I like.

Brenda, how much money did you request? And how frequent? Why did he decide not to pay you?

zaraditenovac.com is a TOTAL scam. The webmaster does not understand the concept of courtesy to those that join. After all, it is because the members are kind enough to recieve advertising emails that the site is even in existance.

I went to their website to unsubscribe, it doesn't exist anymore. And hopefully it never will. I know many are out money but scam artists such as this one have no business doing business on the WWW.

:mad:

I was wondering is it possible this person thought they had 30 cents when they really had .30 cents. I know a lot of people get confused by amounts like this.

I personally know of 2 people who have been paid less than 50 cents each.

When you join a low paying company you take the risk of not getting your money i suppose.

Well sheeeesh..there goes my whole 17 tenths of a cent!..lol

I happen to be good friends with Mich who owns
Zaraditenovac and I can tell you all members records and earnings are intact! He is going through a server changing and having a hard time with it. Had anyone have bother to email him to ask politely what was going on then you would know this. Why is everyone so quick to believe the worst. I hope none of you who are condemming his man are ever in this position and have people believing the worst about you, calling you a "SCAM"! Shame on you webmasters!

I agree very much with momzown. If you all had just taken the time to email Mich and ask if everything was ok instead of getting angry and jumping the gun you all would have known whats was going on.

I have had contacts with Mich in the past and never found him to be rude.

And you know if we have learned anything in the past several months is that we must stand together instead of trying to rip each other apart. It's a shame that message hasn't yet gotten across to all fo us.

Sorry but you have that wrong.

It is not our responsibility to ask what is going on!

It's the responsibility of the program owner to let his members know what the problems are.

"Mich" should have emailed members to warn them of the downtime.

Other thing, how can we email him/her if their site and servers are unavailable??

Marc

geesh the man was transfering servers, which is not going as smoothly as it should. He can't email the members to let them know what is happening because his database is not backup yet.

I was able to email him at zaraditenovac.

I didn't realize this business was so cut throat.
I thought a person was innocent until proven guilty? This forum has really open my eyes.

I'm pretty sure he DID send an email concerning the server change.

<<He can't email the members to let them know what is happening because his database is not backup yet.>>

My point is he should have e-mailed members before this happened. We as members should not have to write to find out what is happening

Can we put this one to rest? He did email the membership, just took me a while to find it:

From: rewards@Zaraditenovac.com



To: wantumbucks@noan.net



Subject: Zaradite Novac



Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 23:14:25 -0500





You are receiving this email because you are a member of http://www.zaraditenovac.com
Do not REPLY!

________________________________________________________________________________

Important PLEASE READ:

We will move on new server these days,so please if you have any questions
you can send to trnjana1829@aol.com!

Premestamo se na novi server ovih dana,pa Vas molimo,ukoliko imate nesto
da nam posaljete,posaljite na i-postu trnjana1829@aol.com

________________________________________________________________________________

To unsubscribe please click on:
http://www.zaraditenovac.com and enter your email address and select unsubscribe
from the dropdown box
Our primary language is Serbian-Srpski Cyrilic(Windows)!

Thank you Jeff !

Guys, I could care LESS about the server change. My problem was with what he said, go back and read my post!! It is a DIRECT CUT AND PASTE OF HIS EMAIL TO A MEMBER OVER REQUESTING 30 CENTS!!

How can you debate the amount the member requested or the exact nature of my complaint when it is all in the post??? Good grief!

Also, I have elsewhere amended my wording - I don't necessarily think the program is a scam, but I think he is very rude. I sure wish you could have seen the emails he had sent me when I first started up accusing me of spam because he received PocketJingle email. *I* certainly didn't sign him up.

My issue is not the validity of his program, it is his rudeness.

E-mail message

From: payments@zaraditenovac.com (Zaradite Novac) Date: Sat, Apr 13,
2002, 9:39am To:
Subject: Re:
Money Request Canceled
You can go on court if you want to accused me for DISCRIMINATION,I am readdy and my lawyers too!
But when you joined to you were agree with
term! What`s gonna happened if 10000-s people request money like you? Who can control that?
The way I`m workong I control my busines,so if the person don`t like same person can unsubscribe!
Thanks
Miodrag Filipovic
http://www.zaraditenovac.com

[ 04-18-2002: Message edited by: Brenda@PJ ]

well what an interesting discussion. all of you have valid points but i thought i would put in my 2 cents.

over a month ago Zaradite sent out a paid to sign up email, with around 10 sign ups i think, maybe a bit less, each ranging from 5 cents to 30 cents per sign up. now in his terms he stats that he has 30 days to credit our accounts. it also says that u must send the confirmation email to an email adress with your account details.

now i signed up for every offer. i sent a seperate email to the email addy with my details and with the confirmation email. this was over 40 days ago, and my account has not been credited one bit. i understand he is going through a server change but he has blantly broken his terms and conditions, this is not fair to members.

i emailed him politely, asked him on this message board several times on the status of those sign ups. the first time he sed it wasnt 30 days yet, so i sed fine and i waited another week. then he tried to tell me he had lost all of those emails, and that i had to send all my confirmation emails back to him. now i found this ridiculous. it is not my responsibility to keep sending him email after email just to get credit when it is well over the 30 days. its his reponsibility to looks after the acc details. sif i still have those emails anymore. after his lack of emails over the past 40 days (despite his change of server).

ZaraditeNovac this past week (typical week) paid from .001 to .002 each to read their "paid emails." When I sent an email questioning whether the decimal points are misplaced, I was told by the program owner that his offerings were legal. At those rates it takes reading anywhere from 50 to 100 "paid emails" to earn one cent. You figure it out!

I think it is absolutely ridiculous. I can understand having low-paying links when a PTR first starts up--for example, lack of advertisers and such--but after THIS long, they are still literally sending links worth one-thousandth and one-hundredth of a cent?? (I am NOT exaggerating; I received several links, while a subscriber, that were worth 1/1000 of 1 cent.)

Unsubscribing from Zaraditenovac was one of the smartest decisions I ever made.

[ 06-02-2002, 01:22 AM: Message edited by: kglaser ]

I warned many people about Zaradite many times

The fact is that Zaradite bought the program to make up for the programs that scammed him in the past.

In an open email to me a few months ago he stated that he wanted to get his money back from being ripped off.

Now to me it read that he would do whatever he wanted to recoup his money, whether it be ripping his members off or whatever!

Just stay away from the program, the owner is arrogant and not to be trusted

Marc

I was paid ONCE
When I request payment now I get NOTHING

You deserve nothing, lol...

scam?????????????????????
nO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
unsubscribing zarA...........SAVVY!........?
I ONLY WAITTING FOR THEIR SIGN-UP OFFERS 'S CREDIT.......

lol osmedic.
I think zaraditenovac just can't get the money in time to pay people...you know.

Just wanted to add that I just got paid from Zaraditenovac -- at first I had requested payment via the website button, but then an email said not to do this, and to send a direct email request for cashout.

I requested the cashout (about $0.15) within the past week, and was paid by them today, direct to my paypal account.

So, I can at least report one satisfied customer!

--trekrobyn

15 cents? whats the point of getting 15 cents cashed out? geeze thats the funniest thing ive ever heard. Are u even gonna notice its there??

I'm sorry you find it so funny that someone would bother cashing out $0.15, but since all of this GPT stuff is a fun hobby for me (I'm not doing this to make 1000s of dollars), then I'll take whatever free money I can get.

Furthermore, a mere $0.15 from several programs, every week, will add up (so, it's an extra bit of spending cash that I have)

If you think that there's no point to cashing out just a few cents, then why bother with GPT programs with no minimums or very low minimums to cash out? If a program has a low minimum cash out, and it's going to just add to my paypal balance, then I'll cash out whenever I have the chance (in case the program goes under or stops functioning).

Just my thoughts on why I'd bother cashing out a small amount. That may not be everyone's style, but it works for me.

Yeah Trekrobyn, you have a point...nowadays, it seems like you better cash out what money you can get from what programs you can before they go under or, almost worse, LOSE THEIR ENTIRE DATABASE (sometimes multiple times).

fair enough trekrobyn but for myself i definately would not notice a few extra 15 cents a week. I always wait till at least $10 payout just so it seems like its more in the end rather than a few 15 cents at a time. ANd as im from Australia the money nearly doubles straight away cuz of the exchange rate . it doesnt matter to me whether they have a minimum payout as long at isnt over $50 thats my limit. But yes some companies do fold but i only mainly participate in the ones that have a good history and reputation. I have never been in one that has "lost their database" except for cashinmail and i was with them for like a week so didnt lose much. Oh well to each their own.

quote:

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Originally posted by trekrobyn:
I'm sorry you find it so funny that someone would bother cashing out $0.15, but since all of this GPT stuff is a fun hobby for me (I'm not doing this to make 1000s of dollars), then I'll take whatever free money I can get.

Furthermore, a mere $0.15 from several programs, every week, will add up (so, it's an extra bit of spending cash that I have)

If you think that there's no point to cashing out just a few cents, then why bother with GPT programs with no minimums or very low minimums to cash out? If a program has a low minimum cash out, and it's going to just add to my paypal balance, then I'll cash out whenever I have the chance (in case the program goes under or stops functioning).

Just my thoughts on why I'd bother cashing out a small amount. That may not be everyone's style, but it works for me.

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bravo! my sentiments exactly