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Saxodelic
Hi this isn't a discussion or a debate, It's just a poll, if you're not a Christian you don't have to reply, I was just wondering how many people here have accepted Jesus as their Lord and are born again Christians? I am !
Pia
You mean as a religion am I Christian or am I religious? smile.gif
freeandeasy
QUOTE (Saxodelic @ Nov 30 2003, 04:31 PM)
Hi this isn't a discussion or a debate, It's just a poll, if you're not a Christian you don't have to reply, I was just wondering how many people here have accepted Jesus as their Lord and are born again Christians? I am !

Yes, and I have the Messianic Seal on FreeAndEasy, kinda low so it doesn't offend anyone, but have met some wonderful Christian members because of it. biggrin.gif
Here it is:
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kezree
I suppose it depends on what your idea of a Christian is....I don't beleive you should have to go to church every Sunday to be a Christian...I have met too many "Sunday Christians" they go to church on Sunday and thats it for the rest of the week they forget about the Lord....


I beleive in the Lord and try to live according to His teachings.....sometimes I slip up, not majorly, but I don't feel I need to go to church for forgiveness...I can ask Him anytime anywhere I like for forgiveness and I know he will hear me...

Sorry that was a bit long winded and sounds a bit like I am preaching but I normally don't comment on religion as I feel it is a personal thing and we have many different people here in the forums of different faiths....no offense against your post Saxodelic....just my 5 cents biggrin.gif
princessah
ive accepted jesus as my lord and saviour smile.gif
MandyMooCow
I've accepted Jesus as my Lord...havent been to Church in about a year...probably dont follow the Bible much...what most Church-goers would call a 'backslider'.

Akuma
Tought question.

I've been educated as a Christian. But that education have been always pointed to moral learnings -such as respect to other religions.
So I rarelly go to church or anything related with religious groups. I think they are social, not religious really.
Moreover I dislike the Church oligarchy system... dry.gif


As far as it is part of my education, of course I feel its influence. And I think it is positive overall.
But I do not think it is essential in my life -I could have been learn as much professing any other religion or even none of them.
kezree
QUOTE (MandyMooCow @ Dec 1 2003, 05:21 PM)
I've accepted Jesus as my Lord...havent been to Church in about a year...probably dont follow the Bible much...what most Church-goers would call a 'backslider'.

I know this is a fairly serious thread but I am what is called a submarine church goer....we surface once in a while.....
barbinco
IXOYE

Yes, I am a Christian. But not a fundamentalist. tongue.gif
Lancer Sykera
Let me guess, you surface at Christmas, Easter, hmm... sorry haha those are the only major days I can think of. Maybe because I'm not Christian? laugh.gif Maybe Lent? I don't know, do you go to church for Lent?

I agree with Akuma about the social aspect. I think religion is moreso a private thing, and church is just a way to say "look at me aren't I a great person" which also goes with the Sunday Christians, they go to church saying "aren't I the perfect little Christian wearing my cute little dress" and the rest of the week they might be one of the worst and most immoral people in the state. Or world, for that matter. If you can't devote every day to your supposed beliefs, you don't deserve to be recognized as somebody of that belief. I'm not saying devoting every day means going to church every day, mind you.
Lancer Sykera
And freeandeasy, that picture might not be offensive for it's religious meaning more than the meaning of a part of that picture: the fish. It is well known that the fish symbol represents the virgin mary's, well, her v*gina. It's well known in the atheist world, anyway. Maybe because atheists actually look at all that bad stuff in Christianity and point it out when nobody else wants to step up to the plate. I don't mean to offend anyone personally, but Christians preach morality, yet they plaster that all over the place... Kinda hypocritical, don't you think?
freeandeasy
QUOTE (Lancer Sykera @ Dec 2 2003, 01:04 AM)
And freeandeasy, that picture might not be offensive for it's religious meaning more than the meaning of a part of that picture: the fish. It is well known that the fish symbol represents the virgin mary's, well, her v*gina. It's well known in the atheist world, anyway. Maybe because atheists actually look at all that bad stuff in Christianity and point it out when nobody else wants to step up to the plate. I don't mean to offend anyone personally, but Christians preach morality, yet they plaster that all over the place... Kinda hypocritical, don't you think?

Actually, that was the Pagan Great Mother Goddess (pre-Christiam era).
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The fish symbol "was so revered throughout the Roman empire that Christian authorities insisted on taking it over, with extensive revision of myths to deny its earlier female-genital meanings...Sometimes the Christ child was portrayed inside the vesica, which was superimposed on Mary's belly and obviously represented her womb, just as in the ancient symbolism of the Goddess."

The symbol itself, the eating of fish on Friday and the association of the symbol with deity were all taken over by the early Church from Pagan sources. Only the sexual component was deleted.

However, many religions have used fish symbols, and attached various meanings to it.
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In China, Great Mother Kwan-yin often portrayed in the shape of a fish
In India, the Goddess Kali was called the "fish-eyed one"
In Egypt, Isis was called the Great Fish of the Abyss
In Greece the Greek word "delphos" meant both fish and womb. The word is derived from the location of the ancient Oracle at Delphi who worshipped the original fish goddess, Themis. The later fish Goddess, Aphrodite Salacia, was worshipped by her followers on her sacred day, Friday. They ate fish and engaging in orgies. From her name comes the English word "salacious" which means lustful or obscene. Also from her name comes the name of our fourth month, April. In later centuries, the Christian church adsorbed this tradition by requiring the faithful to eat fish on Friday - a tradition that was only recently abandoned.
In ancient Rome Friday is called "dies veneris" or Day of Venus, the Pagan Goddess of Love.
Throughout the Mediterranean, mystery religions used fish, wine and bread for their sacramental meal.
In Scandinavia, the Great Goddess was named Freya; fish were eaten in her honor. The 6th day of the week was named "Friday" after her.
In the Middle East, the Great Goddess of Ephesus was portrayed as a woman with a fish amulet over her genitals.

So it's ok for other religions to attach their own meaning to it, but not Christians?
wvufan68
I do my best to be a 24/7 Christian. I try to live my life to the best of my ability as a Christian example. No, I don't run around preaching at others and spouting off my faith, but I believe that people know what type of person we are by our words and actions.

I attend services at each and every opportunity, because that gives me the chance to learn more from others that I may not have known. I can ask questions of other Christians of things I may not understand completely. I don't just take other's words as "law." I ask questions then do my own studying on the matter.

I try to study my Bible daily, and pray for the guidance and wisdom to understand better. Lately though, the study part hasn't been the case, unfortunately. I've let other things take me away from that aspect.

I don't judge others by their beliefs. That is not my purpose here on Earth. I don't get offended by other's beliefs, or "symbols" used by those of another faith. Lately, here in the US, things have gotten crazy when it comes to "religious symbols." Certain government officials and courts seem to think that any little thing that MAY be offensive to someone of a different faith, or those who have no religious faith at all, has got to be eliminated.

An example:

I don't celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, simply because I have found nowhere in the scriptures that specifies what day of the year Christ was born. I can't say that it isn't the day of his birth, but at the same time, I can't say for certain that it is. All the scriptures specify about the day, is that the shepards had their flocks in the fields, which points me more towards the warmer time of the year. (THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AFTER STUDYING THE MATTER. THIS IS NOT POSTED AS FACT.) Just a little disclaimer there..lol
But, I do not get offended by others displaying their nativity scene at Christmas time, simply because they have a right to believe as they choose and to celebrate Christ's life as they choose. No court or official should be able to take that right away from them just because a passerby may find that display offensive.
No, I don't feel my rights should be put above those of others, but don't take away my right to worship in my own way, and put another's rights above mine either.

Sorry this is so long. This has just burned my bum lately how government officials are so terrified of one person being offended that they are taking away the rights of others to worship and believe freely.

And don't jump my rump and say that I'm trying to force my beliefs on others by my statements, because I'm not. I'm no more important in this world than anyone else. I just don't think taking God out of society for those of us who believe is the answer to the world's problems. smile.gif
angiestokes
WOW!!! Thank you for that wonderful post wvufan68. I read through this topic before before you posted and was unsure what to post. I am a christian and have no problem with people knowing that, I just have a hard time putting my thoughts and feelings into words. But after reading your post I'm gonna give it a try! I gave my life to the lord as a child and served him for years. Then I turned 18 and became a backslider in a major way. I then rebelled against God for the next 12 years of my life, and boy were they miserable!! I gave my life back to God shortly before my 30th birthday and once again have the peace that passeth all understanding inside my heart. Am I perfect? DEFINATELY NOT!!! But now when I mess up I go to my savior and get forgiveness. I do go to church and as often as possible. I love being able to fellowship with fellow christians. Is it for social reasons only? Nope. The main reason is for me to learn as much about God as I can and to praise and worship him and to draw closer to him. Of course I can do this at home as well and I do. I love reading my bible and praying! The power of prayer is an amazing thing and I have seen this power in action!! And like wvufan68, I don't judge other by their beliefs and am not offended by them. Sorry to be so long winded but thanks for letting me share my personal testimony. smile.gif

Angie
freeandeasy
QUOTE (wvufan68 @ Dec 2 2003, 08:55 AM)
I do my best to be a 24/7 Christian. I try to live my life to the best of my ability as a Christian example. No, I don't run around preaching at others and spouting off my faith, but I believe that people know what type of person we are by our words and actions.

I attend services at each and every opportunity, because that gives me the chance to learn more from others that I may not have known. I can ask questions of other Christians of things I may not understand completely. I don't just take other's words as "law." I ask questions then do my own studying on the matter.

I try to study my Bible daily, and pray for the guidance and wisdom to understand better. Lately though, the study part hasn't been the case, unfortunately. I've let other things take me away from that aspect.

I don't judge others by their beliefs. That is not my purpose here on Earth. I don't get offended by other's beliefs, or "symbols" used by those of another faith. Lately, here in the US, things have gotten crazy when it comes to "religious symbols." Certain government officials and courts seem to think that any little thing that MAY be offensive to someone of a different faith, or those who have no religious faith at all, has got to be eliminated.

An example:

I don't celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, simply because I have found nowhere in the scriptures that specifies what day of the year Christ was born. I can't say that it isn't the day of his birth, but at the same time, I can't say for certain that it is. All the scriptures specify about the day, is that the shepards had their flocks in the fields, which points me more towards the warmer time of the year. (THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AFTER STUDYING THE MATTER. THIS IS NOT POSTED AS FACT.) Just a little disclaimer there..lol
But, I do not get offended by others displaying their nativity scene at Christmas time, simply because they have a right to believe as they choose and to celebrate Christ's life as they choose. No court or official should be able to take that right away from them just because a passerby may find that display offensive.
No, I don't feel my rights should be put above those of others, but don't take away my right to worship in my own way, and put another's rights above mine either.

Sorry this is so long. This has just burned my bum lately how government officials are so terrified of one person being offended that they are taking away the rights of others to worship and believe freely.

And don't jump my rump and say that I'm trying to force my beliefs on others by my statements, because I'm not. I'm no more important in this world than anyone else. I just don't think taking God out of society for those of us who believe is the answer to the world's problems. smile.gif

Sounds like you and I are much alike!
Lancer Sykera
From what I know, December 25th became a great Christian celebration because in one of those ancient civilizations, Roman I think, when they were persecuted, everyone else was out getting drunk and partying because the solstice meant the days would be getting longer, and therefor didn't bother with the Christians, they were too busy partying. How it ended up being the day Christ was born I do not know, but based on what I know of the above, IMHO it's extremely doubtful that he was born at any time near Christmas.
jmintuck
Welcome to the club of being saved!I AM a born again Christian.I accepted Jesus to my heart when I was a child.I wont ever forget that.Unfortunately,I backslid and have to get back on track.But I am not a fundamentalist.I think fundamentalism is going too far, but that just happens to be my opinion. Once my parents were TRUE fundamentalists, but they mellowed out and that is good.Christianity without the fundamentalism is good.As long as you are doing the right things and not literally shoving it in faces, but just notifying in a kind manner that you are christian and a query if you,d like to be saved is ok, I think.If they say no, drop it and go on with another topic, but if they say yes,proceed.
Chaos
I don't believe in God. Even if I would, I wouldn't choose to be christian, maybe induist or something more interesting than christianism tongue.gif
freeandeasy
QUOTE (Lancer Sykera @ Dec 2 2003, 11:50 AM)
From what I know, December 25th became a great Christian celebration because in one of those ancient civilizations, Roman I think, when they were persecuted, everyone else was out getting drunk and partying because the solstice meant the days would be getting longer, and therefor didn't bother with the Christians, they were too busy partying. How it ended up being the day Christ was born I do not know, but based on what I know of the above, IMHO it's extremely doubtful that he was born at any time near Christmas.

Many Bible scholars believe he was born in the springtime.
butterscotch2002crf
i have accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior too, altho i admit I am not as diligent as i should be in my Bible reading for myself, I do listen to taped Bible studies/sermons/commentaries.
This thread is good..forces me to admit to myself how lax I have become in words and deeds too..hmmm maybe time to change that smile.gif
and I don't do Christmas either, but I do celebrate Resurrection Sunday!
MandyMooCow
If you do some research on Xmas and Easter, they both have their roots in pagan festivals. Easter is named after Eostre (not sure how to spell it!), she was a goddess of fertility and her symbol was the egg.

As for Xmas, It was a celebration for some god or other, Zeus or Ra or something (LOL sorry Im not clear on exact facts!) and the Christians where allowed to use it to celebrate Christs birthday - NOT that the Bible says that we should celebrate the birth of Christ, even though it was such a central event!

Once again I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember hearing that Christ was born late September/early October.

I LOVE Jesus, but I cant stand to go to Church and so much that has been totally influenced by Satan - very frustrating sad.gif

Not to get into too many contentious issues here, but for those of you who are Catholic - why can you pray to or through Mary? She was the mother of Jesus, not Jesus! There is even a verse in the Bible where Mary and some of Jesus' brothers were standing outside a town he was preaching in, and when someone told Him that they were there, He said something regarding how all mankind are his family, not just them. I dont recall any importance being bestowed upon Mary as a figure of adoration? Also my only 'Father' is my Father in Heaven; some man cannot be my father and is as flawed as I am, therefore I dont think he has special powers or insight that will enable him to forgive my sins if I confess to him! smile.gif

I'm not being self-righteous and saying that I know everything and am 100% correct - just something I've been wondering about cool.gif
freeandeasy
QUOTE (MandyMooCow @ Dec 2 2003, 01:42 PM)
If you do some research on Xmas and Easter, they both have their roots in pagan festivals. Easter is named after Eostre (not sure how to spell it!), she was a goddess of fertility and her symbol was the egg.

As for Xmas, It was a celebration for some god or other, Zeus or Ra or something (LOL sorry Im not clear on exact facts!) and the Christians where allowed to use it to celebrate Christs birthday - NOT that the Bible says that we should celebrate the birth of Christ, even though it was such a central event!

Once again I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember hearing that Christ was born late September/early October.

I LOVE Jesus, but I cant stand to go to Church and so much that has been totally influenced by Satan - very frustrating sad.gif

Not to get into too many contentious issues here, but for those of you who are Catholic - why can you pray to or through Mary? She was the mother of Jesus, not Jesus! There is even a verse in the Bible where Mary and some of Jesus' brothers were standing outside a town he was preaching in, and when someone told Him that they were there, He said something regarding how all mankind are his family, not just them. I dont recall any importance being bestowed upon Mary as a figure of adoration? Also my only 'Father' is my Father in Heaven; some man cannot be my father and is as flawed as I am, therefore I dont think he has special powers or insight that will enable him to forgive my sins if I confess to him! smile.gif

I'm not being self-righteous and saying that I know everything and am 100% correct - just something I've been wondering about cool.gif

Here is a series of articles of interest:
http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_04_02_04.html
Mostly musings on the Christian holidays/festivals being derived from pagan holidays.
There's some pretty interesting reading there.
cherylwaldrop
Yes, I am a Christian. I don't do organized religion on a regular basis though. I have had some bad experiences with that.
I do read my Bible - I try to do that daily, but sometimes I don't - and I participate in a home based Bible study weekly. I know that I should attend church more often than I do, but I have never found a church where I really felt comfortable that's close to my home.
stanne312
QUOTE (MandyMooCow @ Dec 2 2003, 02:42 PM)
If you do some research on Xmas and Easter, they both have their roots in pagan festivals. Easter is named after Eostre (not sure how to spell it!), she was a goddess of fertility and her symbol was the egg.

As for Xmas, It was a celebration for some god or other, Zeus or Ra or something (LOL sorry Im not clear on exact facts!) and the Christians where allowed to use it to celebrate Christs birthday - NOT that the Bible says that we should celebrate the birth of Christ, even though it was such a central event!

Once again I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember hearing that Christ was born late September/early October.

I LOVE Jesus, but I cant stand to go to Church and so much that has been totally influenced by Satan - very frustrating sad.gif

Not to get into too many contentious issues here, but for those of you who are Catholic - why can you pray to or through Mary? She was the mother of Jesus, not Jesus! There is even a verse in the Bible where Mary and some of Jesus' brothers were standing outside a town he was preaching in, and when someone told Him that they were there, He said something regarding how all mankind are his family, not just them. I dont recall any importance being bestowed upon Mary as a figure of adoration? Also my only 'Father' is my Father in Heaven; some man cannot be my father and is as flawed as I am, therefore I dont think he has special powers or insight that will enable him to forgive my sins if I confess to him! smile.gif

I'm not being self-righteous and saying that I know everything and am 100% correct - just something I've been wondering about cool.gif

Mary, being the mother of Jesus who is king, is in effect, our mother too.

In the Old Testament, ancient Jewish times, the queen was always the mother of the son, it was never the bride who was queen. That is why Catholics and some other Christians believe Mary to be the Queen of Heaven (far different than the queen of heaven who was a goddess worshipped in the Old Testament times)

We believe that Mary was chosen by God to carry Christ in her womb, and that she is, in a sense, the New Ark of the Covenant. The Ark of the Covenant held everything dear to the Jewish faith, in it was the 10 commandments and a few other things. Since Jesus, who is God, is the law, then Mary would be the New Ark, a living, breathing version of that holy place.

We believe Mary is and was 100% human, not God, nor a goddess to be worshipped, though we do adore her as the mother of God.

Getting back to the Old Testament kings and mothers-a good Jew always listened to his mother, whether he was a king or not. The queen, though she held no ground in the political arena, did hold ground with her son. The command to honor your father and mother influenced this culture greatly. In one of the gospels (sorry, don't recall which one right now) Jesus was at a wedding with his mom. They ran out of wine, and Mary went to her son to intercede on behalf of the couple that they would not be embarrassed for lack of wine for the guests (it was a terrible thing in that culture, not to have enough of anything to go around for the guests. The bride and groom might suffer some ostracizing because of it; the guests would see it as an insult) He said to her, woman, it is not yet my time. She turned to the waitstaff and said "do whatever He tells you." This is Mary's role in the Catholic and some other faiths, what we believe. Mary will always turn us to her son, for He is God, not her. She will pray to her Son for us and with us. She tells us the same: "Do whatever He tells you." Don't know about you, but I need all the intercessors I can get on my side! wink.gif

The mother and brothers verse you mentioned-I just happen to have heard a homily by a priest on EWTN on this only last week. wink.gif Jesus' response to the crowd was: "whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my mother, my brother, my sister." Mary did the will of God; even though she was born human into this world, the church has proclaimed her the New Eve. Eve was created with a free will and intelect, but not original sin. That came a bit later. We believe Mary was created for the sole purpose of bringing the Christ child into the world, therefore was concieved without original sin. (she had free will, of course-but according to Catholocism, never acted on anything which would do Christ dishonor) This makes great sense to me, for when I am fasting and praying, at my closest most intimate moments with God, I feel the sin around me. There are some folks I just can't stand to be around, because the sin is so prevelant. I don't even know what they do, just get a creepy, icky feeling at times. At those times I do have those feelings, I am as pure as my human nature and intellect will allow-though not pure, as I am only flesh and have the stain of original sin. I couldn't imagine the Christ Child being cooped up in the womb of a human for nine months, and living with her for all those years, having all that ick swirling around Him. Even the Father could not look upon His only Son on the cross, when Jesus bore the sins of mankind. (I have struggled with this issue myself, even though I was brought up in the Catholic faith, I questioned the doctrine of Mary alot. This is why I have such great devotion to her now-I have asked God on numerous occassions in the past, these very things you have asked, and even more. Through a conference, through the radio or tv, and even in my own heart, God has answered and it just felt right)

When Jesus turned to the disciple he loved and said "this is your Mother", we believe He was speaking to all of humanity, for Mary being the mother of God who came in the flesh, could also mother us more perfectly than any human mother. She was created by God for this mission. You could have the best parents in the world, but they, being human, have wounded you in some fashion. Mary will hold us to her heart in those times, and ask Jesus to heal us. She would tell us to forgive, to love, to be humble and obey our parents.

As far as confessing to a priest, this is biblical. Jesus gave the keys to Peter and said "whatever you hold bound on earth will be bound in heaven, whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven" There is another passage or two which states something of confession. Also, I've heard from some scholars that there was a sect of Jews who did have a type of confession. In fact, all the Jews practice in some fashion a day of atonement held once a year. The Apostles did hold some kind of confession for sins; this is noted in some of the earliest biblical scholars' writings. Confession was 'perfected' at some point, I think around 800-1000ad. I don't recall which council, I will have to look it up. smile.gif The church has held councils whenever there was a heresy floating around, or if the practicioners of the Christian faith needed some kind of direction, as in the case of the confession. I think this council I am writing about, decided on venial, mortal, and serious sins. Too many people were over-scrupulous, and I imagine there was just not enough time in the day for a priest to hear confessions and tend his duties.

I don't want to spark a debate here; just wanted to answer your questions. If these answers do not satisfy you, please pm me privately and I will take some time with you. I don't want to have this topic get out of hand and have it closed.

As far as being a Christian-some days I try harder than others. huh.gif Going to mass on Sunday, and even some other days throughout the week, really convicts me to live a more holy life. As does making a regular confession; after that sacrament I'm more in tune with God and more aware of my sinfulness, like a light-bulb went off in my heart, and I obstain a bit more readily from doing or saying something I shouldn't, or even ommitting something I should do. I would like to be canonized a saint some day; this is my aim. Though I fear if that would ever happen, I will not die for a very long time; have too much sin, and if God would so choose to answer my prayer, I probably won't be ready to die until I'm like 150 or so. wink.gif My greatest error is ommission-I've had such difficulty with people, I'm a bit afraid to step out and do what I should do. I trust God will heal me; it's only human pride, and perhaps some form of control on my part-desiring everyone to be in harmony, and not to be shunned or mistreated. It's difficult to welcome these distractions and praise God for them; He knows what He is doing in putting me through the fire of perfection.

God bless you in abundance this Holy Advent Season, and may you be prepared to recieve the new-born Christ into your heart in a new and vibrant way at Christmas.

KimH
Yes I am and very proud of it! Have been for 31 years and my family and their families are Christians too. I am very blessed. And free I LOVE your logo.
Love,
Kim
Brian11007
I am a Christian. I have the Lord Jesus in my heart. smile.gif Have been a Christian for awhile now... don't remember when I decided to ask Jesus into my life... but yeah, I am a Christian, and it is nice to see others in this forum who are as well! smile.gif
allstarballer2005
I am one more Christian in the house!!!
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sleepy
I'm a born again Christian too! If you see an ad to a Christian page at any of the PTR ads its probably mine! My personal site is the addicted2jesus home
Thanx to the PTR industry I managed to scrap in some e-gold for my own domain and hosting...lol! Love to see some of you on my website!
Benji
brittney
Yes, I'm Christian. I go to church every once in awhile. It's all about the relationship with Jesus though, not about church. I've got http://jesusrox.com. Not much up though yet.
aliciaegg
I am since I was a child I have believed and prayed attended church ,

latley i have been so drained like i just cant go on and I have to call on my lord to carry me until it passes .


I believe in the power of prayer so could everyone reading this plz pray for my daughter Ashley she is in the hospital since sept/03 and in the fight of her life .
she is 13 years old and i would trade places with her in a heartbeat if I knew she would be ok the rest of her life.

I love you Ashley hold on to your faith
Invisible Girl
I am a Christian as well. I don't attend church though, but my sister does. She has been baptised and she took confirmation classes at a local Lutheran church. I was never really baptised, when I was a baby, I was what they called "dedicated" to Christ. In the church I grew up in, they don't believe that babies should be baptised, but instead they are "dedicated". They think baptism should be done when the child gets old enough to understand what it is, and make their own decision whether to be baptised or not. So technically, I've never been baptised, and I don't attend church, but I haven't found a church around here that I like, and I don't believe you have to attend church to be considered a Christian. My grandmother told me a few years ago, that people who don't go to church will not go to heaven, and I strongly believe she is mistaken. I believe in God, and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. There have been times in my life where I have felt so alone, but knowing that God was there, helped me get through some really, really bad times.
tweetiepie
I was raised in a christian home, we attended church every Sunday morning, Sunday night and Wednesday night, any time the chruch doors were open we were there. I still go to church out of respect to my parents who are still active members.

I really don't consider myself a christain anymore however, something about the whole belief system never rang quite true for me. As I grew older I began to study history and religion on my own and found out that what the preacher tells you on Sunday morning doesn't even scratch the surface of all there is to know about the history of the christian religion and how it evolved into what it is today. They also don't tell you about all the half human half god men that came before Jesus that had much in common with him as far as the stories told about him. I feel many christians don't fully understand their own religion.

I am not saying anyone should not be a christian, everyone has to make their own choice about what they believe. But I think you should educate yourself about your religion. I have found many christians never even read their own bible other than what the pastor speaks on in his sermons.

I do believe in god and I do believe that he will intervine and can grant mircles if we ask with a humble heart. But I really want no part of any organized religion or anyone who tells me that I have to worhip their way or no way.

Sorry if this offends anyone, but it is my opinion.
kglaser
I am a Christian, although haven't been to church in a while...I want to start taking my kids when they're about 3; then my hubby and I can start going again to church too (he said he'd want to go with us). My kids are only 2, but I've already started telling them about our beliefs and about Jesus Christ. God is very important in my life, and I want them to be exposed to that kind of love and peace during their formative years. smile.gif
AlexRisa
I'm a christian.
I quote Edgar Cayce like others quote the Bible.
leanna549
I was raised in a christmas home, and drifted away , until last summer. I got very ill, bacterial meninjitis, was unconscioue when i was found, already had infected blood, cloudy spinal fluid, and a swollen brain, the doctors told my family there was such a slim chance for survival, prayer requests were sent, and after 8 days, i came too, and have very few side effects. the dr's are so stunned they are going to publish, with my permission, my records.. they cannot explain it, but we could. all things are possible to those who believe
KimH
Leanna,
What a wonderful testimony!
God Bless You Always and Thanks for sharing!
Love,
Kim
princessah
on that note i have to tell you of my miracle experience
my dad was born again years ago when i was a tennie bopper
and i have always known that Jesusisthe truth, i always knew God did miracles but a couple years ago i got the full extent of it
my dad had to have emergency brain surgery
He had a large tumor in his brain, i dont know all the details because naturally i was upset and unable to pay attention to the doc. what i do know however is that the dr. showed us (the fam) the cat scan and we saw this tumor, it was large i thought for sure my dad was gonna die, sure he would go be with Jesus but I'm greedy I wanted him to be here with me longer rolleyes.gif
anyway, we prayed the doctor looked at my mom funny because she was rebuking satan and praying and stuff
but let me tell you that dr. was so utterly confused when he went into my dad's head and there was NO sign up any brain tumor
after when my dad was in recovery the dr. was looking at my mom then lookin at the cross lookin at my dad lookin at the cross i dont think he has ever seen anything quite like that lol
there has been other things smaller things but never any quite like that 1
ive also lost people in my life but you know its so truewhen they say that God works in mysterious ways
my aunt died recently (ironically of a brain tumor) and God didnt save her,,, but wait maybe he did
she had walked the line with christianity for a long time, before she went into surgery she accepted Christ as her Saviour, so ya know who is to say that had this not happened that 1 week or a year or whatever down the road she wouldnt have gotten hit by a car and died instantly without ever accepting Christ, then where would she be?
Jesus Christ is my Saviour
and praise God that he is
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charmeyn
Wow, what a topic, where do I start smile.gif hmmm without writing a book on the subject smile.gif
Well, I'm 43, I was not raised as a child in a Christian home, in fact my father was a devout athiest raised by a very fanatic Christian step-mother; However, my father did acept Jesus just before he passed away 15 years ago due to Colon Cancer and his exesive drinking.
I can recall as a young child having an inner belief that there was someone greater than either of my parents looking out for me. My imagination was rather vivid as a child, I would imagine when I looked up to the sky that someone was always watching me smile.gif, the clouds were angel's pillows, the rain would be God's tears. All this leads me to believe that all of us have an inner faith of something greater than ourselves, because why as a child would I imagine such things not having any Christian upbringing.
I have delved into many different religous denomintaions, and have been told many different variations of what it means to be a "Good Christian" and what it takes to be accpeted into the Kingdom of God.
I was told that once I accepted Christ as my Lord and savious that all my problems would go away, well they didn't happen to go away my problems remained ;until one Christian told me that even though I accept Jesus this will not mean that changes in my life will be instantaneous but that they will take time because I had to learn life all over again as if I was a Child once more and this Christian used the example of what Jesus said about "Suffer little children and come unto me" and about the story about how Nicodemus questioned Christ about how a person can be "Born Again" by asking Christ did this mean we litterally had to return to our mother's womb's. These example's made more sense to me than miraculous changes happening in my life. It meant to me being "Born Again" being litterly being reverted back to being a child and getting a second chance at life and re-learning better ways to live my life and just as my "Old Child" learned ways that are not so good, my "New Child" is learning ways that are good,and this will take a life time, as it did for my "Old Child" to learn what it learned. When I was told all this it was then that I truely accepted Jesus as my one true saviour.
And even before i truelly new Jesus, I can honestly say that it was by his divine intervention that he freed me from my Alcohol and Drug problems, I used to drink like booze like it was water to most people but now I can't even stand the smell of it; Jesus took any desire for me to want to return to my old way of life; however I still have one addiction I'm not quite free with and that's smoking sad.gif but I believe Jesus wants me to try and kick this one myself to truelly proove to myself that I can, I don't believe Jesus is one to coddle anyone but rather he wants us to learn to help ourselves as well, he just gave me a boost by freeing me from drugs and booze smile.gif becasue just as we have faith in Jesus, so to does he have faith in us and why he is so patient with us because he knows some of us will truelly come around eventually smile.gif
I was regularly attending church, but have stopped attending, and looking back as to when I last went to church was around the time of 9/11, almost three years now. However this has not detered me from losing faith, but rather to read more of my Bible than I ever had before. The book of Revelations has always been a fascinating book of the Bible for me, but now it's been rather more of an "eye opener" and more understandable as I see what is happening latley in the world. And isn't what the word Revelation to mean to reveal something? Well it definately does to me and has; and this, to me, makes the Bible truelly believable.
I know that most people think that the book of Revelations only talks about impending doom, but that is not so, it also speaks of good things to come too smile.gif

Well I think I've rambled enough here, God bless you all
gotlucky
I am a believer and I have been to church lately and even went to Bible study. The churches need support and I know God knows whos there. It is no coincidence that God sent me an angel after I went to church just 3 times!!! He wants me to have life more abundantly and love and all the good things. he is wonderful.
roadrunner
I am also a Christian, struggling with many things. The hubby sitting on the fence and not really sharing those beliefs making some aspects of our marriage and child rearing difficult. With my recent illnesses, we don't attend church regularly, although I do have a class that I attend when possible and we keep in touch by email and have a prayer list going all the time. My church has an enormous children's program. I try to keep the kids in as many of those programs as possible because I think the kids need as much exposure to these programs as they can get, especially in the times we have today. As long as they enjoy it, their going. Even though my hubby does not attend church, he does help me get the kids back and forth to their activities when he is not working.
charmeyn
QUOTE(roadrunner @ Aug 14 2004, 09:59 AM)
I am also a Christian, struggling with many things. The hubby sitting on the fence and not really sharing those beliefs making some aspects of our marriage and child rearing  difficult. With my recent illnesses, we don't attend church regularly, although I do have a class that I attend when possible and we keep in touch by email and have a prayer list going all the time. My church has an enormous children's program. I try to keep the kids in as many of those programs as possible because I think the kids need as much exposure to these programs as they can get, especially in the times we have today.  As long as they enjoy it, their going. Even though my hubby does not attend church, he does help me get the kids back and forth to their activities when he is not working.
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Children are amazing, and by what you are doing your opening up doors to the posabliity that daddy will see what amazing things are happening with his children and may want to have some of that goodness in his life, Children can be so convincing and may even be the avenue upon which your husband re-evaluates his walk with God smile.gif
MoneySolutions
I am. Lissa
cherylwaldrop
I am. I pray incessantly, although I don't attend services very often.


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MoneySolutions
QUOTE(wvufan68 @ Dec 2 2003, 09:55 AM)

I don't celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, simply because I have found nowhere in the scriptures that specifies what day of the year Christ was born. I can't say that it isn't the day of his birth, but at the same time, I can't say for certain that it is. All the scriptures specify about the day, is that the shepards had their flocks in the fields, which points me more towards the warmer time of the year. (THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AFTER STUDYING THE MATTER. THIS IS NOT POSTED AS FACT.) Just a little disclaimer there..lol
But, I do not get offended by others displaying their nativity scene at Christmas time, simply because they have a right to believe as they choose and to celebrate Christ's life as they choose. No court or official should be able to take that right away from them just because a passerby may find that display offensive.
No, I don't feel my rights should be put above those of others, but don't take away my right to worship in my own way, and put another's rights above mine either.


The reason we celebrate Christ's birth in Dec. is because the Romans celebrated the birthday of their sun god in the latter half of Dec., so the Christians started a Christian celebration to counteract it. I don't believe that Christ was born in Dec. Like you I think it was more likely in a warmer month, such as Aug. But I do take the time to remember Christ's birth and impress it on my children's hearts. It's such a good opportunity to do so, and since I can't say for sure when Christ was born, I'm going to celebrate His birth when the rest of the Christian world does just because it's easier. smile.gif
MoneySolutions
QUOTE(freeandeasy @ Dec 2 2003, 02:11 PM)
Many Bible scholars believe he was born in the springtime.
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You know, I think I've heard that. Someone in our church theorized that he was born during passover, died during passover (this one we know) and will return during passover. Something to think about. Lissa
mccallul
QUOTE(Lancer Sykera @ Dec 2 2003, 02:04 AM)
And freeandeasy, that picture might not be offensive for it's religious meaning more than the meaning of a part of that picture: the fish. It is well known that the fish symbol represents the virgin mary's, well, her v*gina. It's well known in the atheist world, anyway. Maybe because atheists actually look at all that bad stuff in Christianity and point it out when nobody else wants to step up to the plate. I don't mean to offend anyone personally, but Christians preach morality, yet they plaster that all over the place... Kinda hypocritical, don't you think?
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I always thought the fish was a representation of one of Jesus' miracles.
MoneySolutions
QUOTE(Invisible Girl @ Dec 5 2003, 05:37 PM)
My grandmother told me a few years ago, that people who don't go to church will not go to heaven, and I strongly believe she is mistaken.


We are saved by grace, not by deeds. I do believe we need to have fellowship with other Christians in order to stay on track, but I don't think the Bible says anywhere that this is a necessity, and it certainly isn't what saves us. Nothing saves us but the Grace of God. I believe that you can be a Christian and not attend church. It's all about your relationship with God, and if you can have a strong relationship with God without a church, then go for it. But I think it comes down to stone sharpening stone...we are stronger when we are around other Christians. We are able to learn from them and gain strength from them. We can't do that in the world. Church is an excellent way to get the fellowship we need and learn more about Christ at the same time. However, if you cannot find a good church or the church you attend is corrupted, that won't do you any good either. Lissa
ccofer
I consider my spiritual - but not religious. People that practice organized religion often get caught up in the doctrine and rituals and forget that it is suppose to be about helping people - that has been my experience anyway. I don't mean to offend anyone.

mommyoncemore
Yes Saxodelic, I am a born again Christian. Have been for about 12 years now.

If anyone in here wouldn't mind keeping my brother in their prayers I would really appreciate it. He is leaving for Iraq soon.

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