I have been doing this GTPR stuff now for about 6 months....Every day I spend between 12 and 16 hours in front of my pc...And I click and wait
search and wait.....I get pop ups that freeze my computer.......slowloading web pages......error paid email not found...link expired..
webmasters who go belly up....webmasters who's site has crashed
and my personal favorite cursing word edited emails from webmasters every single day who after reaming me out for not liking paid searches or another cheater found in the system warns me not to spam the procedes to spam me with all of their own personal GTPR links wanting me to sign up under them
then I check my balances occasionally and with maybe 3 exceptions i see you have directly earned 12 cents or 20 cents and I think to myself
why am I doing this?
come on people lighten up..I doubt I will ever see a dime from all this
in the time it took me to type this I am still waiting for my 15 second timer which has now taken 3 minutes and nothing says it paid me yet
Oh wait there it is.....site already visited
Full Version: My Personal Complaint
Yes it would be better to get a job or spend to timing getting an education than bet on gptr programs :-)
Unless you are a cheater or are clicking the links without searching then the webmaster is not curse word edited you! Cheaters are a main concern for webmasters, thats why search links are so low paid, people just click it for the cash and not search.
They do not SPAM you as you have double opted in to read their emails.
You are not obliged to signup under them, you signup for the ones you think you could do well with.
Why not be more selective and choose ones that have paid out, that way you won't have to sit there for 16 hours a day being unproductive.
They do not SPAM you as you have double opted in to read their emails.
You are not obliged to signup under them, you signup for the ones you think you could do well with.
Why not be more selective and choose ones that have paid out, that way you won't have to sit there for 16 hours a day being unproductive.
Ditto Funkymotha. Couldn't have said it better.
I think you need to select and thin out the companies you belong to - if you are spending 12-16 hours a day and not getting anywhere. Look for the ones with good reputations - you can always find member experiences posted in this forum, and (though sometimes they are personal grievances) most are valuable opinions.
I think you need to select and thin out the companies you belong to - if you are spending 12-16 hours a day and not getting anywhere. Look for the ones with good reputations - you can always find member experiences posted in this forum, and (though sometimes they are personal grievances) most are valuable opinions.
Well i see Shellys post as an exagerated picture of the gptr world...
And i must admit that funkymothas mailclub is one of the first gptr programs i've seen on the net that will AUTOMATICALLY pay you for your actions (links2cash and opt-in-pays are similar but not quite :-)
And i can only say way to go - because i think we all know that quite a few owners of gptr speculate in the fact that members will give up rather than keep clicking for sometimes 2-3 years or whatever :-)
But it is good advice to stick with a few good programs and one of mine is themailclub for sure
And i must admit that funkymothas mailclub is one of the first gptr programs i've seen on the net that will AUTOMATICALLY pay you for your actions (links2cash and opt-in-pays are similar but not quite :-)
And i can only say way to go - because i think we all know that quite a few owners of gptr speculate in the fact that members will give up rather than keep clicking for sometimes 2-3 years or whatever :-)
But it is good advice to stick with a few good programs and one of mine is themailclub for sure
FunkyMotha, I disagree with you completely. We as members signed up to read e-mails and click on the links that you send to us. Here is a deal. Since these GPTR programs is where we get paid to click on the links in the e-mails sent to us. Either give us credit for us reading the e-mails, or just don't send us the paid searches. It is wasting us members' time getting all these paid searches, and don't get any credit for reading the ###### e-mails you sent.
I believe MOST every email I've seen (not all) with searches in them says something to the effect of "if you don't want to search, please don't click the links". It's a fairly simple idea... search or don't. Granted, there are some programs that ONLY send paid links in the form of searches. These are the ones where I exercise my right to remain a member or not.
If webmasters only send out links when they have advertisers, guess what... no one earns anything. Advertisers are quite scare these days.
If webmasters only send out links when they have advertisers, guess what... no one earns anything. Advertisers are quite scare these days.
Poncer, what do you exactly mean you disagree with me? which bit do you disagree with? I assume you mean all of it.
ok ... webmasters do not have a go at the people who do not cheat ... they are just begging the cheaters to quit it. If you think it's aimed at you then you have a guilty conscience.
sooo you think webmasters of GPTR's spam you ... well there is a disclaimer at the bottom of every email of every program that YOU double opted into, if you think they spam report them or unsubscribe.
NO-ONE forces you to signup for the advertisers programs .. if you like it then you signup, they don't hold a gun to your head and say sign up or else.
The answer is simple if you don't want to search don't do it ... but don't spoil others hard work by clicking and NOT searching.
What do you mean you don't get paid for reading the emails? Thats why the links are there to prove you have ... otherwise you would just bin them like safelists emails.
ok ... webmasters do not have a go at the people who do not cheat ... they are just begging the cheaters to quit it. If you think it's aimed at you then you have a guilty conscience.
sooo you think webmasters of GPTR's spam you ... well there is a disclaimer at the bottom of every email of every program that YOU double opted into, if you think they spam report them or unsubscribe.
NO-ONE forces you to signup for the advertisers programs .. if you like it then you signup, they don't hold a gun to your head and say sign up or else.
The answer is simple if you don't want to search don't do it ... but don't spoil others hard work by clicking and NOT searching.
What do you mean you don't get paid for reading the emails? Thats why the links are there to prove you have ... otherwise you would just bin them like safelists emails.
Basically Funky Mouth you just proved my point......Webmasters ARE making money or they wouldn't be doing this...However your response is typical of the emails I get every day talking down to me and putting me down for what I chose to post as my opinion,,,,,and according to the constitution I am entitled to it........And HOW DARE You even insinuate that I am a cheater.
I would be more than happy to stick with a few programs and take back my time IF One of them actually paid
I would be more than happy to stick with a few programs and take back my time IF One of them actually paid
Shelly,
If you read in the Praise forum you will find program that actually pay.
Stick with the no minimum or low minimum payout program and use the downline builter in this forum so you will get a little downline at least.
I gave 3 month to a program then if it's not worth it I unsuscribe. I have been paid by Read Them Well, Web-Earner, Opt-in-Pays, Links2Cash and Email2Read already so there is program that actually paid.
As for searching, I choose the program where I search ( the very low minimum cashout or the one I'm close to) and I want a decent amount of money ( .02 cents are not decent) otherwise I don't click on the link.
Leah
If you read in the Praise forum you will find program that actually pay.
Stick with the no minimum or low minimum payout program and use the downline builter in this forum so you will get a little downline at least.
I gave 3 month to a program then if it's not worth it I unsuscribe. I have been paid by Read Them Well, Web-Earner, Opt-in-Pays, Links2Cash and Email2Read already so there is program that actually paid.
As for searching, I choose the program where I search ( the very low minimum cashout or the one I'm close to) and I want a decent amount of money ( .02 cents are not decent) otherwise I don't click on the link.
Leah
Shelly, get a life. I am a webmaster and I am not doing it to make money.
QUOTE (Shelly @ Sep 8 2002, 03:01 PM)
Basically Funky Mouth you just proved my point......Webmasters ARE making money or they wouldn't be doing this...However your response is typical of the emails I get every day talking down to me and putting me down for what I chose to post as my opinion,,,,,and according to the constitution I am entitled to it........And HOW DARE You even insinuate that I am a cheater.
I would be more than happy to stick with a few programs and take back my time IF One of them actually paid
I would be more than happy to stick with a few programs and take back my time IF One of them actually paid
It's funkymotha to you.
And I was NOT putting you down for your post, I was simply giving you advice and stating that webmasters are NOT talking to you if you do not cheat. So I did NOT insinuate you cheated.
Yes of course webmasters are making money ... would you have a business that didn't make money? I think not. Granted some do take advantage, but the majority are very caring towards their members and want them to make money aswell.
The point about searches is .. if a webmaster sends out a search for 1 cent and 500 click and 200 search, each of the 200 click on a 1 cent link that means that email cost the webmaster $5 to get $2 back, a grand loss of $3
so the webmaster sends out a 1/2 cent link next time. It gets so bad that to make the email pay the members, they end up sending out 1/10 cent links to pay the hosting and other costs. There are not that many webmaster earning enough to pay the bills of the GPTR never mind their own personal bills.
Just for your information ... when you post something in a public forum it's open to discussion and other peoples opinion also count. Obviously you cannot take a little criticism and advice because it shows in your derogatory (childish) name for me.
If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen then get out ... as the saying goes.
Shelly, if you doubt you will ever see a dime from all of this, then why do you sit in front of your computer for 12-16 hours/day. Your post makes not sense.
lol .. I thought I'm the only one who has realised all these things .. 
.. actually couple of months ago I was exactly in the same situation .. I didn't see my earnings .. and .. I unsubscribed from those ********** programs .. .. and now I spend on this some couple of minutes a day .. and that's it .. I'm doing better things .. and earning real money from other type of business .. so .. if you sit 12-16 hours a day by PC, clicking those links .. then .. I must say, something's wrong with you .. .. no offence .. but you could spend your time better .. for example meet your friends or something ..
.. actually couple of months ago I was exactly in the same situation .. I didn't see my earnings .. and .. I unsubscribed from those ********** programs .. .. and now I spend on this some couple of minutes a day .. and that's it .. I'm doing better things .. and earning real money from other type of business .. so .. if you sit 12-16 hours a day by PC, clicking those links .. then .. I must say, something's wrong with you .. .. no offence .. but you could spend your time better .. for example meet your friends or something ..
I have to side with the webbies on this one. Basically I'm glad when I earn enough to pay for the hosting and ISP at this point. Alot of us are just trying to ride the waves in hopes that the new ones popping up everyday will die down and the GPT industry will get back to what it was. I don't see that happening actually, but it doesn't hurt to have hope.
The cheaters (no implications and no insinuations) and the dishonest programs will no doubt be the downfall of the GPT industry. And that's a shame. But if anyone really signs up to click paid email links thinking they are going to supplement their income, they've only misled themselves. At the point when it becomes overly stressful to someone, perhaps it's time to pick up a new hobby.
The cheaters (no implications and no insinuations) and the dishonest programs will no doubt be the downfall of the GPT industry. And that's a shame. But if anyone really signs up to click paid email links thinking they are going to supplement their income, they've only misled themselves. At the point when it becomes overly stressful to someone, perhaps it's time to pick up a new hobby.
Before I was a program owner, I had over 500 accounts with various GPTR sites. I deleted them all. I made $5.
QUOTE (funkymotha @ Sep 9 2002, 02:48 AM)
It's funkymotha to you.
And I was NOT putting you down for your post, I was simply giving you advice and stating that webmasters are NOT talking to you if you do not cheat. So I did NOT insinuate you cheated.
Yes of course webmasters are making money ... would you have a business that didn't make money? I think not. Granted some do take advantage, but the majority are very caring towards their members and want them to make money aswell.
The point about searches is .. if a webmaster sends out a search for 1 cent and 500 click and 200 search, each of the 200 click on a 1 cent link that means that email cost the webmaster $5 to get $2 back, a grand loss of $3
so the webmaster sends out a 1/2 cent link next time. It gets so bad that to make the email pay the members, they end up sending out 1/10 cent links to pay the hosting and other costs. There are not that many webmaster earning enough to pay the bills of the GPTR never mind their own personal bills.
Just for your information ... when you post something in a public forum it's open to discussion and other peoples opinion also count. Obviously you cannot take a little criticism and advice because it shows in your derogatory (childish) name for me.
If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen then get out ... as the saying goes.
And I was NOT putting you down for your post, I was simply giving you advice and stating that webmasters are NOT talking to you if you do not cheat. So I did NOT insinuate you cheated.
Yes of course webmasters are making money ... would you have a business that didn't make money? I think not. Granted some do take advantage, but the majority are very caring towards their members and want them to make money aswell.
The point about searches is .. if a webmaster sends out a search for 1 cent and 500 click and 200 search, each of the 200 click on a 1 cent link that means that email cost the webmaster $5 to get $2 back, a grand loss of $3
so the webmaster sends out a 1/2 cent link next time. It gets so bad that to make the email pay the members, they end up sending out 1/10 cent links to pay the hosting and other costs. There are not that many webmaster earning enough to pay the bills of the GPTR never mind their own personal bills.
Just for your information ... when you post something in a public forum it's open to discussion and other peoples opinion also count. Obviously you cannot take a little criticism and advice because it shows in your derogatory (childish) name for me.
If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen then get out ... as the saying goes.
I appologise for the funky mouth it actually was an honest mistake
However attacking me for it was just as childish as you accused me of being
I am also well aware of the fact that when I posted this it was up for discussion
Like I said I have been here six months so I'm not an idiot nor am I a novice
And judging by the webmasters responses I should open a site take peoples money for 3 months scream at them to get out if they complain
Why don't you guys fix the problems instead of jumping everyone who complains then we wouldn't even be having these discussions.
As for getting a life..I am disabled and yes I believed the promises webmasters made that I could make money from home.....So I guess I am a moron
It was not an attack, I am defending, it is you that is on the attack.
I am a webmaster of two GPTR's, and ALL the webmaster's that have responded except for myself have had GPTR's for more than three months.
I have no intention of 'taking peoples money for 3 months then scream at them to get out if they complain' which you have insinuated that I will do, 'judging by MY response' BOTH my GPTR's are low payout ($5 and NO min) so people WILL get paid what I owe them. ALL the monies paid to me in advertising is kept seperate, this will pay the members, anything left pays the hosting and my ISP for the length of time it takes to run 2 GPTR's.
AND I doubt there will be anything left for me personally, it's not a very high paying business, thats what makes us mad is when people try to cheat ( no pointing fingers there just going back to the other post on searches) we end up paying out of our own pockets to supplement the cheaters. We could give so much back to the members if there wasn't so many cheaters.
How do we exactly fix problems? .. if you are referring to the links expiring or not correct links then I guess we could do something .. but we are all apt to make human mistakes. Get rid of the cheaters? well we try but there is only so much we can do .. you try going through 3000 members and recognise some similarities. When we do find them and get rid of them .. what do they do? ... signup again
Going back to my original advice .. look at the ones you are already a member of .. make calculations as to how long before you get paid, going on their average pay per click and email sending frequency, chose 10-20 of the best and bin the rest. Never mind how much you will lose by doing so .. just remember how much time you will lose with them. With the 10-20 you have chosen promote them like mad and reap the rewards, you will very rarely reach payout without referrals.
Oh btw apology accepted
I am a webmaster of two GPTR's, and ALL the webmaster's that have responded except for myself have had GPTR's for more than three months.
I have no intention of 'taking peoples money for 3 months then scream at them to get out if they complain' which you have insinuated that I will do, 'judging by MY response' BOTH my GPTR's are low payout ($5 and NO min) so people WILL get paid what I owe them. ALL the monies paid to me in advertising is kept seperate, this will pay the members, anything left pays the hosting and my ISP for the length of time it takes to run 2 GPTR's.
AND I doubt there will be anything left for me personally, it's not a very high paying business, thats what makes us mad is when people try to cheat ( no pointing fingers there just going back to the other post on searches) we end up paying out of our own pockets to supplement the cheaters. We could give so much back to the members if there wasn't so many cheaters.
How do we exactly fix problems? .. if you are referring to the links expiring or not correct links then I guess we could do something .. but we are all apt to make human mistakes. Get rid of the cheaters? well we try but there is only so much we can do .. you try going through 3000 members and recognise some similarities. When we do find them and get rid of them .. what do they do? ... signup again
Going back to my original advice .. look at the ones you are already a member of .. make calculations as to how long before you get paid, going on their average pay per click and email sending frequency, chose 10-20 of the best and bin the rest. Never mind how much you will lose by doing so .. just remember how much time you will lose with them. With the 10-20 you have chosen promote them like mad and reap the rewards, you will very rarely reach payout without referrals.
Oh btw apology accepted
Ok... one last post to this thread... lol
Shelley... it's very doubtful that the webmasters that are replying to you in this thread are the same webmasters you're so upset with. We can't fix what ain't broken (speaking of our programs). And I must say... I've yet to master "yelling" in an email...
Sure, I do make statements in my emails now and then... if you have more than one account, fix it before I do. That's not yelling and it's certainly not aimed at every member. Geez... I'm giving them the chance to correct their actions.
Do you have kids? If so, do you try to correct them and steer them in the right direction? It's kinda the same thing... you do it right I'll reward you, you do it wrong I'll spat your hand, you continue doing it wrong I'll put a boot in your... well, you get the idea. lol
Just a suggestion here, k? Quit the programs that stress you and where you don't feel it's worth your time. Relax, lighten up a bit and enjoy the good programs. There's alot of them out here. But don't spend 12 hours a day doing it and don't expect to make any real money doing it. Heck... most of the PTRs I belong to that DO pay out just go to pay for advertising my real money makers. I don't have a bill one that $5 will pay.
The Internet is entirely too unpredictable to take to seriously.
Now... smile... it's all good.
Shelley... it's very doubtful that the webmasters that are replying to you in this thread are the same webmasters you're so upset with. We can't fix what ain't broken (speaking of our programs). And I must say... I've yet to master "yelling" in an email...
Sure, I do make statements in my emails now and then... if you have more than one account, fix it before I do. That's not yelling and it's certainly not aimed at every member. Geez... I'm giving them the chance to correct their actions. Do you have kids? If so, do you try to correct them and steer them in the right direction? It's kinda the same thing... you do it right I'll reward you, you do it wrong I'll spat your hand, you continue doing it wrong I'll put a boot in your... well, you get the idea. lol
Just a suggestion here, k? Quit the programs that stress you and where you don't feel it's worth your time. Relax, lighten up a bit and enjoy the good programs. There's alot of them out here. But don't spend 12 hours a day doing it and don't expect to make any real money doing it. Heck... most of the PTRs I belong to that DO pay out just go to pay for advertising my real money makers. I don't have a bill one that $5 will pay.
The Internet is entirely too unpredictable to take to seriously.
Now... smile... it's all good.
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