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FamilyAffair
This is really frustrating! I had 1900+ referrals & now dropped to slightly over 1000 only, lost nearly half of all my referrals. I also lost $4+ earnings, dropped into negative earnings! I really wish to hear their explanation. I am still upset at this despite knowing PaidBin is a honest program. :mad:


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Paid Email Clickthrus: $1.0948
Credits: $6.0400

Debits: $18.8900
PAYMENT -- $3.6000
payment 3-5-02 (0.84) -- $15.2900

Your Referrals:
Tier 1: (7 Total Referrals)
Tier 2: (35 Total Referrals)
Tier 3: (15 Total Referrals)
Tier 4: (199 Total Referrals)
Tier 5: (299 Total Referrals)
Tier 6: (232 Total Referrals)
Tier 7: (101 Total Referrals)
Tier 8: (96 Total Referrals)
Tier 9: (72 Total Referrals)
Tier 10: (37 Total Referrals)

Total Earnings: $-1.8752
wantumbucks
PaidBin does have the paid active link in the members area. Anyone who did not click it last month is automatically deleted the following month-could explain drop in referrals. But would be unfair to also delete upline earnings when inactive members are deleted.
samih20
You have referrals on 10 levels?
I hardly get them on second level.
Any advice?
FamilyAffair
Recieved a fast reply last night.

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Hi Curry,

I understand how you feel. But let me try to explain what might have happen.

1. CAC new scripts update removed the unsubscribe members from your downline so this bring down your total referrals to what you truly have right now.
Before, the unsubscribe members still show as your referrals.
2. Your earning might have been over stated prior to the script update.
Some of your referral?s commission might have been counted more then once. I saw this happen to some accounts. We tested the referral earning after the script update and it works ok.
3. Your earning is being calculated on the fly. If some of your downline unsubscribe since your last login, your earning will go down accordingly.
This is a big problem with CAC referral system. The one thing that will never change is your personal clicks and credit.


We?ll take a look at your negative balance closely and get back to you.

We do have the script to delete all inactive accounts but decided not to use it for now because of the impact with referral earning. We?ll look at these inactive accounts individually and go from there.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks for your support
Paidbin Staff - Jim
punky
THANKS for the info update. I guess I didn't notice the email they must of sent. I am still active, but then again they still had the March link. I probably just made it.

It is great to have this board around
FamilyAffair
Well Jim just credited $2 to my account to make it approx $0.17 total today.

Account adjustment 04/07/02 -- $2.0000
ppprk
Will they credit $7 to patrica too?
FamilyAffair
QUOTE (ppprk @ ...)
Will they credit $7 to patrica too?


Well that doesn't makes sense... all Jim did was credit enough money to my account to make it just over $0.00, since Patricia already have more than $0... after the huge drop in builder's earnings/referrals, Jim will not credit her anything.

Just like MEC-Co-Op-Paidmail, I have 300+ referrals & been struggling to reach $50 for a long 3 months & as I am just about to reach cashout for the 1st time, taxlady installed the script which screwed my earnings, huge drop for the 2nd time again! She assume the new script is correct, refusing to credit $5+ to my account.

Why would I lose $5+ earnings, referrals is on the rise? How can my referrals get credit twice for same paid e-mail? When I click paid e-mail, I check my earnings, I do not see getting paid double the amount. This is not nice, especially since $50 is not a small amount so I am very unhappy. :mad:

Now I don't trust all CAC programs except the one lgwong is running. As soon as I reach cashout, I will not hesitate to redemn before the webmaster delete my referrals, causing drop in my earnings again OR my referrals quit OR new script installation which will screw my earnings.

[ 04-07-2002: Message edited by: FamilyAffair ]

ppprk
So they didn't credit all of your lost eanings?
and just credited some $$$ to change your earnings to (+) ?
FamilyAffair
Yes, they just credit 2 bucks to make it just out of negative range.
freeandeasy
QUOTE (FamilyAffair @ ...)
This is really frustrating! I had 1900+ referrals & now dropped to slightly over 1000 only, lost nearly half of all my referrals. I also lost $4+ earnings, dropped into negative earnings! I really wish to hear their explanation. I am still upset at this despite knowing PaidBin is a honest program. :mad:


I went from almost 3000 to this:

Tier 1: (11 Total Referrals)
Tier 2: (32 Total Referrals)
Tier 3: (81 Total Referrals)
Tier 4: (14 Total Referrals)

Surely there weren't THAT many duplicates and unsubs!


:confused:
wantumbucks
CONGRATULATIONS FAMILYAFFAIR! Email winner at PaidBin!
http://www.paidbin.com/update.htm
FamilyAffair
QUOTE (freeandeasy @ ...)
I went from almost 3000 to this:

Tier 1: (11 Total Referrals)
Tier 2: (32 Total Referrals)
Tier 3: (81 Total Referrals)
Tier 4: (14 Total Referrals)

Surely there weren't THAT many duplicates and unsubs!


:confused:


Are you sure 3000? I bet you count wrong.

PaidBin total membership is only 6000+. I have 1900+, ptaylor3 had another 1900+... if you have another 3000, wouldn't that make 6800+ members? That's impossible.

ptaylor3 is not in my downline.

wamtumbucks, yes I already e-mailed PaidBin yesterday evening but still no reply after 16 hours. :frown:
vinitha
There were quite a few problems with the old CAC script. The biggest reason for the earnings going down is the fact that with the new script, all earnings from pending accounts were deleted. I'll give you an example.

Sendearnings had over 5000 members until recently when I deleted about a 1000 pending accounts. This is about average for a paid email program. Now, pending accounts are not supposed to earn money and they don't, for the pending accounts themselves, but the upline gets credited for the referral commission. Emails sent via the cac script mass mailer are sent to all accounts, ie- they don't discriminate between active and pending, so a lot of people with pending accounts that don't know that they have pending accounts click on the links. With the new script, basically all these earnings were removed, and rightly so, in my opinion. After all, with the old script, someone could create a whole bunch of pending accounts using his referral id, and the potential for cheating is there.
With a new paid email prog, I don't think there would be much of a difference and so thats why the newer companies didn't have much of a drop in earnings. But, the older ones did. For example, I went from having $19 in inboxmint to $-16.

[ 04-09-2002: Message edited by: vinitha ]

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