Subj: Re: Why did you delete my account?!?!?!??!
Date: 3/25/02 4:02:33 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: support@tatcoemail.com (Laura Tyler)
To: tjguitar85@aol.com



If your account was deleted it was because you have or more accounts on 1
computer.
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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: Why did you delete my account?!?!?!??!


> TJ at tjguitar85@aol.com has a question:
>
> Why did you delete my account?!?!?!??!
>
> I had over $120 in earnings and over 190 referrals, I did not cheat why
did you delete my account?
>
> TJ
>
>

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I take back my remarks.

TJ




Subj: Re: Why did you delete my account?!?!?!??!
Date: 3/25/02 4:19:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: support@tatcoemail.com (Laura Tyler)
To: TJGuitar85@aol.com


I am looking in to it. I don't know how you got deleted because i stated with the a,s and only got to the c's and your email address starts with T. I realized this after i sent the last email but i had already clicked sent. For how what i am going to do is send you a confirmation email. Resig up and i will deposit into your account and tomorrow i will give you a free gold membership and find out how to put your referral back under you. I don't know how this happened but i will make it right. I would do it tonight but i am leaving for work. I think some one in hosting company is playing games. I will be switching hosting companies soon. I am truly sorry this happened.

LOL! See what did we warn you? Avoid joining/promoting min. payout that is very high.

lgwong is right, they may pay 1 or 2 people who reach $399 but not everyone, just like nitroclicks.

Maybe tatcoemail owner does read this forum & saw your stats, thus decides to do some cocky things to your account.

Hey, just got sent my paid emails to read from Totco, but when I click on them, I get this message "Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/petrack.cgi on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


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Apache/1.3.23 Server at www.tatcoemail.com Port 80

Can anybody tell me what that means? I definitely only have one account and don't cheat, I don't have time to work out cheats or handle more than one account. So, what's this all about?

I am the owner of tatcoemail.com and i am getting the same message everyone else is getting. I think it has to do with Frank from create-a-click giving people gold memberships to my site before i even launched.

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/admin.cgi on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


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Apache/1.3.23 Server at www.tatcoemail

Uh, Tatco, that answer about Frank giving away gold memberships is hooey. How could he do that without them going through the site first? And you have to add them manually as far as I know.

There've been lots of things going on with your site... One member watched his earnings go down cent by cent... That's either a hacker or you deleting people... but his referrals didn't go down.

Don't forget that IP addresses aren't unique when you are hunting for cheaters...

And people are trying to contact you but cannot which is making them nervous and upset.
:confused:

Of course, my own site is down because I am trying to change servers but am a complete technical ###### and lost my password to change nameservers, so what the heck do I know?? LOL!

OK, I really have a (I think legit Question) about these multiple accounts.

Now grant you, I've only been involved with most of these program since Dec. 2001.

Now My questions is: How does one find the time to join all these programs, read their mail, redeem to send out ads, join safelist, and other programs to advertise, eat, sleep, and do your bodily functions daily, and still have time to have mulitple accounts?

I don't have the time to read the mail I get, In one account, let alone try to have several accounts with the same program. (Which I wouldn't anyway.) Do these people NOT have a Life???

Get real, my husband is threatening to divorce me now with the One account I do have....

oh it's possible , I had one make 140 accounts all from yahoo. Than when i deleted there account, they did again that same day with another 140 accounts all with the same password for most of them the same address , the same name. I never thought it was possible but there are some out there that have no life. :smile:

hmm i'm just going to take a stab at this but it's in the cgi file right now it's pointing to
/cgi-bin/admin.cgi (when frank changed the script it should point to cgi-bin/admin/admin.cgi ) I think your just missing something in commanding it wrong, also you have to make sure that the CHMD is set properly in order to have the script run if not then script won't work at all. 1 little mishap and the whole script goes down. IF you want more help just sendd me an email with the ftp info and i'll see if i can't fix for you. And than you should be up and running with no problems. Also why? would frank just give away gold memberships on your site (I didn't know about that. If so I wouldv'e joined :biggrin:

That is nice of you to offer her your help.
But it doesn't look like she comes here very often, if you had a way of emailing her or sending her a msg thru a messenger maybe she could get the site back up soon.

funny how you would say that, just to the site and now it's under construction. soo i don't know.

I am the awner of tatco. I know most of you don't believe it but i would love to get my site bback up and be able to honor all you referrals and balances.. Frank from create a click tells me it is impossible that the owner of the hosting company deleted everything. If you can help me get the site up you can email me at tatco@cowboys.hm

just sent you an email :smile: be glad to help out a fellow webmaster

Had it not been for earnings dropping the way they were 2 days prior to the site going on a forbidden vacation, I would probably believe you. My earnings would rise and fall, rise and fall. True my 1st instinct was scam... then a webmaster of another ptr prog told me that hackers had been hitting and that was a possibility. That is why I emailed you. You acted as though you didn't believe that my earnings were rising and falling. I mentioned maybe the possibility of a hacker to you, and you did not seem the least bit concerned. It continued the next day and I emailed you again. You then told me that you had been deleting cheaters and that if they were my referrals that I would lose the earings. IF that's the case, like you would want me to believe, WHY wasn't my referrals dropping? They were still going up... not down.
I think tatco is a scam and you are a fake.

before we go around accusing who is a scam and who is not, (she's asking for help so i sent her email and i'm willing to help her out and get it back up and going.) if she doesn't know anything about cgi than yes she will run into a big problems. And if the site had been hacked you can't blame her for that. Honestly it doesn't look like Frank did a good job on these scripts if people can hack into them so easily. there should always be a seperate folder for the admin files but with franks cac scripts there wasn't which made so easily accessible to others. Which made it very easy for some to hack into. Why do you think there's also a security update at least once a weeks seems anyways.


And I'm just curious why you would think i'm a fake :smile:

[ 03-28-2002: Message edited by: tombmailer ]

Yes, if it had been hacked I realize that would not be her fault. But from the responses I got from her emails, she obviously didn't believe so.
1)I think the reason for my earnings falling, was due to HER and not a hacker. And I don't mean by her deleting my referrals because they did not go down not even once.

2)First she tried to blame the site going down on frank at create a click (whom I did email, by the way) and everyone (him, webmasters of other ptr, etc) has told me that is impossible.

3)Now she is trying to blame it on the new hosting company IF all has been deleted. And my bet is on that every thing WILL have been deleted if it hasn't already. (and not because of the new "hosting company" either.)

She got in over her head too quick and this her way of taking care of it.

But, I won't say anything else. We will all see IF and WHEN the site gets back up

hello, i emailed her but she hasn't gotten back to me so i don't know. All i can say is that i offered her my help. I won't speak on her behalf cause i don't know what happened (i was never a member) never knew about it until now. :smile:

[ 03-28-2002: Message edited by: tombmailer ]

well secretagentman, she was more than kind in her responce, hell, she even said she'd give me a free gold membership.

TJ

I wouldv'e been able to help her all day but she hasn't contacted me once soo, All i can say is that i tried to offer my help

tj - enjoying your gold membership yet? :smile: lol

Rhea - I didn't mean YOU were a fake, I was talking about lmtyler - the owner of tatco.. sorry about the misunderstanding

She's hosted on the CAC servers with Frank, all the companies hosted their had issues and thats why they moved, Why would Tatco be any different?

TJ

LOL i'm blushing now :smile: aaaaaaaahh I cccc ok thanks :tongue: no pun taken hehehe

Hmm.. yes other CAC sites have had problems, changed servers, etc etc. But I cannot recall a time when a CAC site was down for more than 4 maybe 5 days? And this is: 9 days and counting.
So, that's one thing that makes it different.
Another is, I know several webmasters of CAC sites.. and if my earnings were falling, and I (or others) thought it was the possibility of a hacker, I know the webmaster(s) would check into it ASAP. They would not wait days..