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Poncer

Jul 2 2002, 07:09 AM

The search paid links that are being sent out through paid e-mails are lousy and not worth the time to search. They suck completely. Tried to search for something and you get nothing but paid programs, casinos and all that. First Zone, Stonedriver, and all those small search engines are no good. I don't want to visit the sites they find for us. Those sites are not the ones that I want to visit. I rather used the big name search engines like Yahoo, MSN, Lycos, Netscape and so forth. The smaller ones that the gpt programs offer can go take a flying leap. My inbox is filling up with Spam paid e-mails for pay searches. STOP SENDING ME SPAMMING E-MAILS FOR PAID SEARCHES. I did not signed up for these programs to do searches. I will do that Search Cactus since I would get paid from them myself.

lachlanm

Jul 2 2002, 02:18 PM

magic-search i like a bit better because if you search for something normal, eg soccer, you actually get pages about soccer and not all sites about betting on soccer or playing soccer at the casino.

I use my magic-search account for my everyday searching sometimes even though you wont get paid for searches such as soccer i still like using it.

Chris Houlihan

Jul 2 2002, 02:21 PM

Just cause you don't like paid searches doesnt mean it's spam...

That's not what spam is.

Poncer

Jul 3 2002, 10:10 AM

And it has nothing to do with Paid E-mails either.

SpendingTheCheese

Jul 3 2002, 11:22 AM

what about search cactus? they look good. i just signed up today. O and what is the best type of get paid to progrmas

thasith

Jul 3 2002, 11:45 AM

Poncer it has something to do with paid email because search link it paying! Paid search is also paid link. As many webmasters said before, if you don't want to search don't click.

Niels

Jul 4 2002, 12:49 AM

I hate those spam mails too, i usually click but don't do them

Poncer

Jul 4 2002, 02:48 PM

I would click them myself, but I refuse to do the searches. I get so many get paid e-mails. There is one that I have to stay on a site for like a whole minute, and that one takes up most of my time. I get in a hurry to go through the e-mails, and not paid attention on the links which leads to the sites.

CentsableMail.com

Jul 5 2002, 06:28 AM

That would be my site that you have a 59 second timer. This is to discourge the click and forget members. I only want searches to click these links. Every search email has Point search in the subject and I only send one every 2 days. Remember you don't have to click. However, even if you do not want to do the search and wait out the timer, you have do all that is required from you. But if you are one of the members that click and forget, you are only hurting the members that are trying to raise the payout.

I am not trying to get rich off my members. This is the formula I use to set the paid price of the searches.

Total received - 1 dollar / number of clicks * 1.5 = Points of the next search. Point value on my site is $0.001

The reason the number of clicks is multipled by 1.5 is that is what each click actually cost with 2 referral levels of 25% each.

So I take out $15 dollars a month to help cover hosting fees. Boy I am really going to get rich of this since my hosting fees are usually around $30 dollars a month (depending on bandwidth).

So remember the next time you click a search link, that it is you the member that sets the price of the link.

Oz Consortium President

Jul 5 2002, 06:54 AM

Although I am not one for making a huge public comment, I would just like to add that I believe search engines pay more than a Paid To Read Email Site, any of them.

I will use the example of the Oz Consortium Search Engine (http://www.findblitz.com) where we pay 85% of all clicks - we have many 1 -7 cent clicks - we also have CAC Paid Email companies jumping on board because it is easy money - cash out at $5 - send a Paid Search to Find Blitz - cash out. An advatange of this website - is that the search has already been done - and the webmaster has already directed them to the search box with search links - not requiring the user (member) to type in a search keyword. I believe this gets more hits.

Another subject I would like to address has already been addressed by CentsableMail.com in tackling the Click and Forget Members. I personally have tried means of getting members to "partake" in the advertised websites - but with the flooding of CAC sites - it is very hard to. I believe that poncer's attitude and other that say they click and dont do the searches - is a very bad one. So I pose this question to all - webmasters and members - could these click and forget members be classified as cheaters?

[ 07-05-2002, 08:57 PM: Message edited by: Oz Consortium President ]

Chris Houlihan

Jul 5 2002, 07:30 AM

Yes, they are definitely cheaters, they are breaking the rules.

Poncer

Jul 5 2002, 08:52 AM

No Chris. Not all e-mails just shows a link to a site have the word Paid Search. People sometimes thinking they are clicking on regular paid e-mails. Ron, about your 59 second timer? You accidently put it on one of the paid e-mails the other day that was not a paid search. I have also heard from some webmasters that the searches are not really paying off for them at all. The people are doing the searches, but it is these companies that have not paid yet. First Zone, Stone Diver and several others I have heard complaints about because they are not paying them like they said they will. Now Chris. It is not cheating if people are going through all the e-mails clicking on all the links when they have so many e-mails. I ignored all the paid searches that Ron sends to me because he put the word Search in the subject line. He is only one of the few who does.

CentsableMail.com

Jul 5 2002, 09:22 AM

Poncer

Yes I did make a mistake. It was a quasi request from the advertiser and I thought it was a search link, but paying cash instead of points. I miss interpreted the message from the advertier. I apologize to the 500 members that were inconvenienced. It should not happen again.

Oz Consortium President

Jul 5 2002, 09:22 AM

But Poncer - it is if member does not actually view the website advertised. The system that you use is unfair to the advertiser. If you receive to many emails - then start to unsubscribe from your "dud" ones, for example - start unsubscribing from the PTRE Companies that do not send "Paid Emails" and only send "Paid Searches"; unsubscribe from the programs you have no referrals for; start to unsubscribe from the PTRE Comapnies that cash out over $100 - and if it is still to much - over $50. Furthermore Unsubscribe from the scam companies like TNT Email. Can I say That??

nze

Jul 5 2002, 11:18 AM

thats great advice oz pres.

wantumbucks

Jul 5 2002, 11:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Oz Consortium President:
Can I say That??

LOL This is the complaints and scams folder

What I do when I'm backed up, is leave all the search links alone, click thru all the other ones. Then send that email to the "search only" folder. When I have time, I work on them (oldest 1st) or if it starts loading up will delete a bunch of the older ones.

Emaillionairesemail

Jul 5 2002, 01:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Oz Consortium President:
But Poncer - it is if member does not actually view the website advertised. The system that you use is unfair to the advertiser. If you receive to many emails - then start to unsubscribe from your "dud" ones, for example - start unsubscribing from the PTRE Companies that do not send "Paid Emails" and only send "Paid Searches"; unsubscribe from the programs you have no referrals for; start to unsubscribe from the PTRE Comapnies that cash out over $100 - and if it is still to much - over $50. Furthermore Unsubscribe from the scam companies like TNT Email. Can I say That??

Whoah, now before I fly off the handle what makes you accuse tnt of being a scam?
We just sold it after restructuring and making it a very nice site visually and paid each and every redemption request within a day.
So, how EXACTLY is tnt a scam please???

guitbowl

Jul 5 2002, 01:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Oz Consortium President:
Furthermore Unsubscribe from the scam companies like TNT Email. Can I say That??

This is the first I heard of the program that I used to own that it was a scam. I wish I would had known that before.
Sandra

Chris Houlihan

Jul 5 2002, 02:01 PM

It's a scam just because it changed owners???

Sheesh, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed...

Poncer

Jul 5 2002, 02:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Oz Consortium President:
But Poncer - it is if member does not actually view the website advertised. The system that you use is unfair to the advertiser. If you receive to many emails - then start to unsubscribe from your "dud" ones, for example - start unsubscribing from the PTRE Companies that do not send "Paid Emails" and only send "Paid Searches"; unsubscribe from the programs you have no referrals for; start to unsubscribe from the PTRE Comapnies that cash out over $100 - and if it is still to much - over $50. Furthermore Unsubscribe from the scam companies like TNT Email. Can I say That??

You are telling me to unsubscribed from all the GPTRE. One, I don't have referrals. Two, I would be unsubscribing like Michael's. When I joined his program, it was many paid click e-mails, not searches. Third, these search engines that these webmasters are using suck. They should do like Search Cactus or a major one.

Poncer

Jul 5 2002, 02:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Houlihan:
It's a scam just because it changed owners???

Sheesh, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed...

Now Chris. Every other programs to you is a scam, but your's. I am taking your word for nothing but a grain of salt. Both you and Cashfeista both jave complained the loudest against other GPTR programs calling them scammers and so forth. That is why I am not joining your lousy GPTR programs nor Cashfeista's. I tend to stay away from people like you. It is usually the ones who cry the lo9udest who are actually the culprits.

guitbowl

Jul 5 2002, 03:11 PM

quote:
quote:Originally posted by Poncer:
Originally posted by Chris Houlihan:
It's a scam just because it changed owners???

Sheesh, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now Chris. Every other programs to you is a scam, but your's. I am taking your word for nothing but a grain of salt. Both you and Cashfeista both jave complained the loudest against other GPTR programs calling them scammers and so forth. That is why I am not joining your lousy GPTR programs nor Cashfeista's. I tend to stay away from people like you. It is usually the ones who cry the loudest who are actually the culprits.

Poncer, Chris was not talking about one of his programs. He was making reference to the comment that Oz made about TNT being a scam. I don't know why he thinks that, but Oz is welcome to his opinion about it. If buying a program, making it more member friendly by lowering the redemption rate so that people can get their earnings quicker is being a scam, I guess there are a lot of them out there.
Sandra

Chris Houlihan

Jul 6 2002, 11:05 PM

Wel, that's just about the most random comment I've ever heard.
The fact that you've posted that after me making a simple post just goes to show that you're looking for a place to cause trouble.

How you can compare me to a person like cashfiesta is beyond me...
YOU are acting like cashfiesta, prowling around trying to put people down and call as many programs scams as you can. Why does being a miserable person give you so much pleasure?

Show me a single thread or quote where I call any program, other than something obvious such as Nitroclicks, RichMails, CashRead, and Ahmoola, a scam. You can't. Why? Because that is my single greatest petpeeve in the GPT... business, which is exactly why I never call programs a scam, unless they're obvious. YOU are the one who is doing that and does that on a daily basis. You yell scammer at the sound of a pin drop. And unlike you, I CAN give examples.

Lol, I'm a scam? That's why I've paid out 1000s and 1000s of dollars to my members, some of which at my own financial loss. It's all just a cover for my scam and the worldwide conspiracy against you and Jays-Paidmail.

Cashfiesta doesn't own any programs...
Lousy, eh? Well I guess you better get to work trying to convince about 12,000 people that.

Any programs you DO like, besides Jay's sites? Because I'll be sure to make one just especially for you.
Do you plan on trying to slam me everytime I post?

quote:
Originally posted by Poncer:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Houlihan:
It's a scam just because it changed owners???

Sheesh, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed...
Now Chris. Every other programs to you is a scam, but your's. I am taking your word for nothing but a grain of salt. Both you and Cashfeista both jave complained the loudest against other GPTR programs calling them scammers and so forth. That is why I am not joining your lousy GPTR programs nor Cashfeista's. I tend to stay away from people like you. It is usually the ones who cry the lo9udest who are actually the culprits.

Poncer

Jul 7 2002, 08:38 AM

Well Chris, I posted the truth about you. You have said a lot of negative things against JaysPaidemail and several others. Why? Do you think your program is much better than everybody else? This is not the only forum you said that about Jays.

Chris Houlihan

Jul 7 2002, 09:59 AM

ROFLMAO! I knew you would use that.
I think my programs are better? Give me a quote...

I've never called his program a scam because it isn't. All I've said is that I disagree with the principles and structures of the program.

quote:
as far as Jay goes, this is nothing against the guy, I like him and I'm friends with him, I just happen to strongly and vigorously disagree with his practices on Jays-PaidMail, and he knows that.

There was another post where I specifically said it wasn't a scam, but it's not there anymore, it was probably deleted cause I went off on cashfiesta for calling it gays-paidmail and saying it was just a joke.

So what have I said negative about jays-paidmail?? Hmmm...
That they were a scam? No. That they wouldn't pay? No. Why? Because they aren't a scam and they will pay, its just I think that some people are very confused about his payout structure and are blinded by a big signup bonus, and referral bonuses, and a few big paid links.
Not the only forum, eh?
Well that would be kind of hard since this is the only forum I use...(other than the downline builder on RefMaker)

No, I don't think my programs are better or worse than anyone elses, I have never said that nor ever will.
I have said that my programs are better? Where? Show me...

You still have not shown me a single quote where I called a program a scam. How come?
So where's the truth in your post?

Also, what is with you and Jays-paidmail??? Even if it was the best paid to read on the face of the Earth, there's no need to be as emotionally attached to it as you are.
You might wanna get that checked out...

Poncer

Jul 7 2002, 12:43 PM

That is ######. You have posted in Paradise Hits Forum and in GPT read forum saying these things. And I need to ask you this? I don't even remember signing up for Cash4Hits. I never got any e-mails from them until recently. I seemed to make close to 90 cents already, and my referral is you. I am not a member of any of your programs, nor have I signed up under you. Are you cheating? Did signed me up without my knowledge?

Chris Houlihan

Jul 7 2002, 01:17 PM

Once again, show me a link or a quote...
Huh? You can't? Yeah, that cause I've never said that.

I think you mean to say I'm your referrer...
You have 90 cents and 11 points in PERSONAL clicks. So have I also been breaking into your mailbox to read your mail?
Also, you have valid contact information in your account, so you HAD to have signed up.
I have almost 1000 people on my Cash4Hits downline, I don't think I would have a reason to sign you up.
Not to mention the fact that they have been on MEC software for the majority of the time they've been open, which prevents people from signing others up.

Are you now just looking for things to complain about?

venomx

Jul 7 2002, 01:19 PM

edited

Now like you said. You have $0.88 and 11 points... if you didnt signup I can remove your account.....

Ill look back in 48 hours... no reply means I can remove the account.

venomx

Jul 7 2002, 01:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Poncer:
And it has nothing to do with Paid E-mails either.

Are you not paid to click the link or visit the site? Thank you.

Poncer

Jul 7 2002, 02:17 PM

I never got any e-mails from Cash4Hits until the past week. How can I make 88 cents if I never got e-mails from you before. You both suck. I should say both of your stupid programs to be boycotted.

venomx

Jul 7 2002, 02:18 PM

Let me guess.. thats not your IP and [edited - please don't give out any person's password] isnt a pass you use? OK account deleted.

[ 07-08-2002, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: zOla ]

Poncer

Jul 7 2002, 02:23 PM

You know where you can go? You can both go to Hell. You both are very rude on here, and anyplace else.

Chris Houlihan

Jul 7 2002, 02:23 PM

Wow, great people skills.

I'll especially remember this if I'm ever in a presidential debate.

quote:
You both suck.

That'll win over the crowd.

ppprk

Jul 7 2002, 02:27 PM

Many people tell negative things against high minimum sites like JaysPaidemail & nitroclicks
No one doesn't complain about this.

quote:
Originally posted by Poncer:
Well Chris, I posted the truth about you. You have said a lot of negative things against JaysPaidemail and several others. Why? Do you think your program is much better than everybody else? This is not the only forum you said that about Jays.

[ 07-08-2002, 04:50 AM: Message edited by: ppprk ]

kglaser

Jul 7 2002, 02:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Houlihan:

I think you mean to say I'm your referrer...
You have 90 cents and 11 points in PERSONAL clicks. So have I also been breaking into your mailbox to read your mail?

LOL!!

Chris Houlihan

Jul 7 2002, 02:29 PM

We're rude???
You've called my sites a scam and you've accused me of lying, saying things I haven't, and cheating.
Then you said that we suck.

Well, if that makes me rude, then I guess I'm guilty.

venomx

Jul 7 2002, 02:31 PM

Poncer let me guess you are 13?

Poncer

Jul 7 2002, 02:32 PM

Stick it up your behind. Now, I have to change all my passwords because of venomx. Thanks alot *******s.

venomx

Jul 7 2002, 02:35 PM

BUT it isnt your password! You didnt signup for the account! If you didnt signup for it how did it have all your info and stuff????

Poncer

Jul 7 2002, 02:51 PM

Stick it and leave me the hell alone. You have no excuse for what you did. You did not work with anybody on this issue to see what went on. But, no. You deleted the account and posted my private info on here without thinking that a hacker could have gotten my info. I am a member of one of the programs that got hacked. So, you don't think first, but you delete away and post personal info about me.

ppprk

Jul 7 2002, 03:02 PM

Didn't you say you didn't sign up for cash4hit yourself ?
You meant you were signed up without your consent by Chris.
How is that password yours?
That password must be Chris' password

kglaser

Jul 7 2002, 03:50 PM

Yeah, Poncer, you are contradicting yourself.

Poncer

Jul 7 2002, 03:56 PM

I am not. I said that I don't remember signing up for venomx's stupid lousy program, liked it will take me a million years to reach payout. This also shows you how rude and inconsiderate venomx is. He should be closed down for good. So does Chris.

venomx

Jul 7 2002, 05:28 PM

Wasnt your pass because you said you didnt signup. And to make $5 will not take more than a few weeks or months. Sorry little boy.

Wait Ill be starting one like Jays soon... $350 payout 5 cent emails and charging 1 cent per email to the advertisers. Then I wont be a scam to you!

Also stop reporting me for posting "your" password. It wasnt "your" account, "your" IP, and you said you didnt sign up for the account so it wasnt YOUR account.

[ 07-08-2002, 07:38 AM: Message edited by: venomx ]

venomx

Jul 7 2002, 05:31 PM

Oh and I deleted the account so you wouldnt get the emails. You did say you didnt set it up right? I also posted the IP here.... Whats the account needed for?

And lets see.. you had 88 cent on your own with no referrals... doesnt seem like $5 is that far off if you just started clicking the ads.....

SpendingTheCheese

Jul 7 2002, 06:43 PM

dumbolina.com is the best paid to search. People says it cofusing but you gotta read instructions. Go to the Dumbolina Forum if you think Dumbolina is cofusing

Oz Consortium President

Aug 28 2002, 10:33 AM

QUOTE (Poncer @ Jul 5 2002, 08:43 PM)

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Oz Consortium President:
But Poncer - it is if member does not actually view the website advertised. The system that you use is unfair to the advertiser. If you receive to many emails - then start to unsubscribe from your "dud" ones, for example - start unsubscribing from the PTRE Companies that do not send "Paid Emails" and only send "Paid Searches"; unsubscribe from the programs you have no referrals for; start to unsubscribe from the PTRE Comapnies that cash out over $100 - and if it is still to much - over $50. Furthermore Unsubscribe from the scam companies like TNT Email. Can I say That?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Third, these search engines that these webmasters are using suck. They should do like Search Cactus or a major one.

But furthermore - some of the "lesser" known websites pay more.

A program like Easy Search All, Magic Search the like pay only 10%-50% - some of the lesser known websites - such as Find Blitz pay 85%. And the rules are not as strict on traffic.

That's why Paid Searches are through these "crap" search engines.

3a3

Aug 29 2002, 01:18 AM

well .. yeah .. you're right about the % .. but .. those 10-50% is always more on magic-search and EasySearchAll than those 85% on FindBlitz .. and as far as I've used FindBlitz .. I would not say that the stats are really understandable .. I mean I try to click results by myself in order to check, whether the stats update .. and - no stats update ..

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