Beware!!!!! Of what you do and say as far as Mec-co-op-paidmail goes. I made a mistake and admitted it, by showing another how to do the auto surf in Mec-co-op, and had my account deleted. I emailed the webmistress about and admitted what I did. And couldn't get any leeway on my account being deleted. I signed up again and got an account going again, and this morning have not been able to log into yet, and I have been trying off and on for the past 3 hours. I have finally decided to give up on it. I use to think this site was great, not anymore, after all I have been thru in the past couple days. I use to defend when I seen, not so good topics in any forum. Not anymore. I use to refer the site. Not anymore. I even spent my hard earned money upgrading my account in the site. Not anymore. After all I have seen in the ptr industry, accounts disappearing, changes, and just about anything else, makes me just completely wanna give up on the whole industry. All this is discouraging to say the least.

Sorry, I don't see any mud!
Just wanted to get at someone?

I read the conversation at GPTBoycott that you and the webmistress of MEC-Co-Op had and I can see that she is justified for doing what she did. She stated her point about why she can't reinstate your points and earnings. She would have to overwrite all the members in order to do such...Trust me, she won't do it for anyone and I can understand why. What you may view as an honest mistake, she views as a TOS violation. She also told you that she is having server problems today and to be patient. I can't log in either.....

I got deleted for showing them how to do auto surf in their account on my computer. And if I know right it is 2 people with different ip addresses. I maintain my account on my computer the other person maintains their account on a completely different computer. How is that breaking the rules?

She is not sharing her pc, the other person doesn't do anything on it.
Wondering how anyone can detect a connextion like that?

Marian

why couldnt you just show her how to do it from your own account? its the same setup.....
then you wouldnt have been automatically looked at as a cheat by the scripts for accessing two accts from the same computer...

She was only trying to help......Webmasters are always throwing new things at us {not to mention breaking more TOS rules than we do}and we have to figure it out for ourselves and if we figure it out wrong then we are deleted.....If we come here and ask how 9 times out of 10 we are treated as stupid........Yes she broke a TOS but I'm sure she wasen't thinking at the time as I said only trying to help

technically you can be deleted, but this person was only trying to help, and this only happened once i assume, there should be some leeway. after all they were only trying to help.

Is Carole a staffmember?

Oke I will edit the sentense, you must be the only one who reads it that way.
When I mention GetPaidForum, no one will think that I mean Michael personaly!

This topic really confuses me...

First of all how do u show someone how to autosurf from your computer on their account.. Unless they are at your home and
If so why not show them from your own account...

All i have to say is that... This webmistress has on numerous occastions stated only access your account from your pc... Only one account on a computer....

So if u prefer to ignore all warnings and decide to go ahead and do it anyway.. opps sorry your lose...

I love Meccop.. I have been payed twice and she has alot of problems with cheaters and i fully suppport her doing what she needs to do to cut these down..

So if u get pulled over for speeding ,,, do u get mad at the cops for giving you a ticket even though u are the one breaking the law...

If people would just follow the terms and listen to WBs warning... Noone would have a problem....

Hopefully all is straightened out but the only person u have to blame is yourself...

Yes, and someone told her exactly how to reinstate an account in one of your threads.
At that time I thought "how professional", can't remember who it was.

Marian

No, it wasn't one of those but since I can't quote I'll drop it.
Besides I think she should be glad to get rid of the account, can't keep up with all the changes and rudeness anyway.

Marian

My question is, did this person run the account for a minute or two to show the other member how to do it or was it ran for hours (if it was the latter, I would delete it as well)

Rod

This is going way too far. What I do on my computer is my business. Who is allowed to use or not use my computer is my business. If I get deleted from program XYZ for this then good ridance

For those who are interested in the program owner's comments and the discussion precipitating this thread, see:

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread...=&threadid=3754



Ron

First of all, i'd like to thank all of you who have stated that "rules are rules" no matter what the circumstances.

The truth of the matter is this person was a good member for over 2 years.
Never came up as using 2 accounts on same computer until recently.

When the scripts come up showing 2 accounts or more accessing from same computer i delete. I have no way of knowing who is actually a cheater, and who made an honest mistake, that really shouldn't have been made.

When this person e-mailed me she had already re-signed up (if i recall correctly with a new username instead of the old one)
Had she re-signed up using the same username, her downline would have fallen back into place.

When she first e-mailed me, she questioned why she couldn't access her account.

I replied that 2 accounts were accessed from same computer and it's a violation of the TOS.
She had already re-signed up.
She then e-mailed me as a response to my mail that gave her multiple reasons why i would delete any account , she responded honestly.
Unlike so many who deny any wrongdoing, she admitted that she did show her brother the auto-surf.

Now it stands to reason she could have very well have done that from her own account. THere was no reason to log into his account.

She wanted to know and these are her own words "can you overwrite the data"

I responded with NO, i will not overwrite data under any circumstances unless its to restore a complete backup due to loss of the data.
I will not do this for one or two people, i';d have to restore from last backup which would loose 48 hours data for every member.

I did e-mail her starting with "Congratulations: You are the first and only member who even admitted you made a mistake" Every other deleted member accuses me of wrongdoing.

Honestly, had this been kept private, i may have asked her how much was in her account and put it back. I even responded in the forum after her attacks at GPTB forum, advising her to cancel the new account and re-sign up with old usernam,e so her downline would fall back into place.

Rather than do that, she kept attacking me for her 'honest mistake'

Because she chose to take this public, i will not put any earnings back.
If i do, then every cheater, or honest mistake expects the same and considers my denial of it, as preferential treatment.

I could have done it privately and nobody would know but because this went public (her choice)(her post)(her mud-slinging), i will not.

I have no intention of keeping this going by responding any further.
Fact is it has been a TOS from day one of operation
But it's only recently that the scripts have the ability to show me who's accessing the site from same computer on multiple accounts.
With old scripts i didn't have that ability. Any webmaster using CC scripts can tell you the same. They are the best darn scripts and worth 1000 times more than John charges for them.

As for her one supporter here, that member got deleted because i sent an e-mail out to Poland, India, CHina and Japan,

The mail clearly said, I am not prejudice and singling out countries. I've always been turned off when i view anoter ptr that says "China, Japan, India, Poland and other countries not allowed to use this site" I've always been turned off by that.

My e-mail explained that 99% of my known cheaters are from those countries.
I asked them to change their country to "other" as in 48 hours i would delete all members left from those countries that clicked the paid link i provided, which went to the userin fo page for them to change their country.

This person e-mails me back, they refuse to change country " will not lie", am proud of where they come from, accuses me of being prejudice etc."

Well it was their choice to ignore my mail requesting them to change country.

Now they e-mail me, demanding earnings, threatning to sue me, etc, etc etc.

Sorry, but i don't have any obligation to restore accounts when i made a simple request to change country to other. This is between me and this member, nobody else would see it, and i gave my permission to do it. so in that case it's not a lie.

This other person who is has now banned together with this original topic starter are now both on a vendetta. The indian member has been blocked from my mailer, because of the abusive e-mails and demands he continually sending me.

Well this is just another day in the life of a webmaster...
hehe. as i said, i won't discuss it any further with either of them, they will continue whining about it trying to tear down mec-co-op because both of them made mistakes.
One deliberately ignored a request in order to keep their account. The other may or may not have made an honest mistake. I have no way of knowing that, but have no reason to believe she's not telling the truth and does have a brother and was showing him how to use his auto-surfer when she could have shown him from her account but didn't think.
Had this been privately discussed between me and her, she'd have her earnings back, but she chose to go off on a rampage and take it public, and now i take it as a personal attack and will not under any circumstances bow down to harrassment by anyone.

Thank you all for your support.
Carole

If you re-signed up, then you probably missed Carol's last email. She's having her floors redone and may not have access to her computer for a few days.

Private forum?
I'll go look i assume it's webmaster's only?
thanks

But, just think of the outcome, Carole. NEW FLOORS!!!!!!!!!!

NEW FLOOR COVERING!!!!!!!!!!

SO DELERIOUSLY HAPPY THAT YOU SEND OUT $10 ADS TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry Carole, got carried away with my imagination. LOL

Carole does have tight rules and sticks to them, but if you are honest and polite then she will usually help out. The mass deletion feature has deleted vacation accounts at mec and other ptr's, it's the system that made the error, but if you can explain that then I would expect Carole to put your earnings back if you re-signup. Carole did also say that she would have put the earnings back in this case if it wasnt for constant complaining, you do have to be very polite, but if you are, Carole is usually fair to you.

My friend who was in my downline lost her account which was at payout, it was partly her own fault due to her not using her vacation setting and not understanding the tos, also she expected to be paid within the timeframe on the redemption page, if she had been then there would have been no problem. A few polite mails to Carole sorted out the disagreement and my friend got paid within minutes of re-signing. If my friend had emailed Carole with the first words that came into her head when she discovered her account deleted, I dont think she would have had the same result!

I think when a site has thousands of members it is hard to take the time to decipher who is visiting a friend or relative for a week and who is a true cheater. It would be nice if the po could email each individual case and delete on a case by case basis, but that takes more time than many po's have, so they just use the mass delete for any accounts where 2 accounts are accessed on the same pc. If they werent so strict on these rules, I am sure a lot of cheaters would find ways to slip through the net, thereby stealing from honest members.

I dont know what the admin panel is like exactly but I think when you do the mass deletion all you can see is the member id and that they are inactive or have signs of cheating on their account, you dont see their history. If the po was to go through once a month and has 500 accounts come up, they will probably just hit the delete button and not go through each of those 500 accounts individually. That would take more than just one minute to email that person, it would mean going into their account and looking at their signup date and their history up to now.

It sounds like what happened to you was a mistake, Carole genuinely thought you had been inactive but you knew you had set your vacation. You shouldnt have been deleted. I suppose it is hard for a po to know which people are telling the truth about their situation when so many people would have just said they had set vacation settings and they really hadnt. Carole had faith in the scripts she was using and didnt know that this flaw existed at the time. She responded in the way she thought was right in general, but it wasnt right in your case, you knew that but she didnt.

taxlady2

The rule is that you can only have account per ip address. Just because you visit your family 1000 miles away and log in to your account on their computer and through your recomendation they joined this program 6 month's earlier or so doesn't mean that there are now two accounts on that ip address. Just how stupid are you?

The holidays are comming up and you have alot of members that are going out of town to visit family and friends all over the world. You better inform all your members that if they login on their family or friends computers and they are members of your program they will automaticaly be deleted for cheating! That way all your members just not a few here at GPF can see what a total loon you really are! This person did nothing wrong and you know it. If you had any decency and any honor you would reinstate this persons account in full and maybe add a little extra for being such a jerk!

I had enough sense to quit your program along time ago!!!

Rich

If I wanted to read what was said on GPT Boycott I wouldn't be signed into get paid forum. GPT Boycott isn't that the site that supports Jay's Paid Mail 100%. No Thankyou!

I belong to lots of sites that use CC scripts and I guarantee you that I would not be deleted on any of them for signing in on one of my family members or a friends computer 1000 miles away and doing my clicks even if they were a member in that program! I know all the webmasters and webmistrisses in all the programs I belong to. I am a major advertiser in all of them. Even if I wasn't to be in a program for two years with there never having been a problem they would not have deleted one of their members! Period!

There never should have been a opportunity for this person to have to resign up since they should have never been deleted in the first place with taxlady emailing this loyal 2 year member and asking for a explanation. Webmasters owe that to the loyal members and the webmasters that don't are JERKS!

Rich