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Full Version: AYS IS FINALLY GOING DOWN!
Here is someone TAKING ACTION against internet theives!
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I feel sorry for all you people that have clicked and been robbed. The 3 programs I am in have all changed owners and payment is unknown so I am going off ptr. I have just made $110 clear off cashits without clicking a single link! I have now found a couple of other programs like this to reduce risk. I lost $4,000 last year to scams on the internet so I doubt I can save my credit rating mucjh longer. The money came from a credit card so I would never put that much even in cashits now. All these scam artists are going to ruin it for the honest webmasters because we can no longer tell the difference. They laughed all the way to the bank.
lol, it isn't going down. This person is most likely just another one who clicked a cheat link
I hope it's not, I just reached payout a couple of days ago... 
Reached it on my own with no refs, thats 1,000 links clicked, 16.66 hrs of my time. 
Reached it on my own with no refs, thats 1,000 links clicked, 16.66 hrs of my time.
I don't see how anyone can say they are going down, they pay very efficiently and they are one of the programs that has a ZERO tolerence against cheaters. That is a good and a bad thing, I feel that the cheatlinks are to strict, but I haven't seem on in ages, and yes you do have to read the payouts carefully so you don't click the wrong one, but all in all I think it is a well run program. Just my two cents because I have been paid twice and have just reached payout number three.
brela why do you insist on attacking those of us who were royally screwed and are very angry about it?
I strongly suspect if it happened to you then you would be singing a far different tune
I strongly suspect if it happened to you then you would be singing a far different tune
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| brela why do you insist on attacking those of us who were royally screwed and are very angry about it? I strongly suspect if it happened to you then you would be singing a far different tune |
Probably if we made an error by accidently clicking a cheat link or whatever we did wrong, we would just accept that we made a mistake and move on with our lives. I can't stand when people click a cheat link and get deleted and then go running here to scream SCAM! Grow up and learn to accept responsibility for your actions.
| QUOTE (Shelly @ Nov 2 2003, 12:10 AM) |
| brela why do you insist on attacking those of us who were royally screwed and are very angry about it? I strongly suspect if it happened to you then you would be singing a far different tune |
Hmmm, I'm not sure what the story is behind this, but I am a member of AYS for many months and from my personal experience as well as other feedback I read here at the forum from members that were paid, I don't have any reason to believe AYS/Linder are a scam.
I'm not complaining about clicking a cheat link.......I'm complaining about people in this forum who attack other's who complain when it dosen't affect them....but read the Betty Bucks thread and ET and Jay etc.....when it does affect them they sing a whole different tune
for a program that is supposed to be such a scam, it sure has been sending plenty of mails, offering PTCs, AND PAYING people on a consistent basis.
i'm so kornsfused??
i'm so kornsfused??
| QUOTE (Shelly @ Nov 1 2003, 11:48 AM) |
| I'm not complaining about clicking a cheat link.......I'm complaining about people in this forum who attack other's who complain when it dosen't affect them....but read the Betty Bucks thread and ET and Jay etc.....when it does affect them they sing a whole different tune |
I don't think this is entirely true, Shelly. I feel bad for folks that click on cheat links in the respect that I know it feels to do it. It's sucky.
But, very few people take the responsibility. Many of them run to boards like this screaming "SCAM!" because THEY clicked a cheat link, or clicked something else they shouldn't have. It's EVERYONE ELSE'S fault but theirs.
I'm sorry, I'm not a harsh, unfeeling person, not at all, but I get tired of these "SCAM!" tirades when the person doing the screaming is the person at fault.
Why is it SO hard for people to say, "Oops! My bad!" and just LEARN from the experience?
I've clicked on 2 cheat links in 2 different programs so far. Not once did I run into any forum screaming "SCAM!" and all this other nonsense.
I'm happy to commiserate with anyone that feels bad about clicking a link. (I definately know what it feels like!) I'll mumble with you, I'll sniffle with you, I'd hug ya if I could, I'll even give a boo-boo lip.
But I'm NOT going to place blame for someone's actions on anyone BUT that someone. 
~ Ambrie ~
I have also clicked 2 and donated 2 dollars to the same program..Like I said I am not refering to cheat links.
I am refering to the way some members treat others in this forum
Edited to add:
If you really want my opinion on cheat links I personally think they are an ingenious way for webmasters to get out from under the massive debt they have accrued and many are taking unreasonable advantage of it
I am refering to the way some members treat others in this forum
Edited to add:
If you really want my opinion on cheat links I personally think they are an ingenious way for webmasters to get out from under the massive debt they have accrued and many are taking unreasonable advantage of it
| QUOTE (Shelly @ Nov 1 2003, 05:23 PM) |
| I have also clicked 2 and donated 2 dollars to the same program..Like I said I am not refering to cheat links. I am refering to the way some members treat others in this forum Edited to add: If you really want my opinion on cheat links I personally think they are an ingenious way for webmasters to get out from under the massive debt they have accrued and many are taking unreasonable advantage of it |
I disagree
Yes, they do catch honest members on a bad day, but If you're advertising would you prefer your ad read by:
an automatic machine, which just clicks for the money
or
a real person who might just respond.
I have been paid by AYS, and recently upgraded and have 2 referrals already.
When I first read all the complaints about AYS deleting people, I was worried, but once I checked I found they all had clicked a cheat link.
I have no problems with AYS. I have been with them since before the payout increase and I see no problem.
ps
If you have read their admin emails you would not have been sending emails that meant you lost money.
you are too focused on the software......Cheat links are catching far more overworked honest members than cheaters
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| Here is someone TAKING ACTION against internet theives |
What action?this guy is a day dreamer!!
and my answer you all is,be active,honest and admit
and be responsible for your actions.
Ays doesn't delete anyone accidentally
I was paid by now over $200usd...if it was a scum
Would i get paid this amount and by the way
pending now for another $100??
If you are honest you are in and you get paid.
Ays is one of the best.
You may try and bash...who is going to listen ?
And the actin mentioned is pathetic as well
No proof for anything ,so on what are they going
to basee their claim?word from mouth to ear?
Is this a valid evidence?no its not..you may say they
owe you thousands..so what??
Ays is one of the best.
*sigh* I hope there's not going to be a new rash of threads like we had a few months ago calling AYS a scam.
They send out high paying ads, and for that they ask you to actually read and pay attention. I think that's reasonable. It's not as though there are a zillion point or fraction of pennies links that you have to get through and go on auto pilot. For the duration of the timer, or before requesting a redemption, you simply have to read and understand.
What's the scam in that?
For the record, I recently received payment and consider AYS to be one of the better, most professional programs out there.
Hysterical posts like the one which started this thread just sound to me like whining, complaining children throwing a temper tantrum.
| QUOTE (Shelly @ Nov 1 2003, 10:10 AM) |
| brela why do you insist on attacking those of us who were royally screwed and are very angry about it? I strongly suspect if it happened to you then you would be singing a far different tune |
where exactly was there an attack there, shelly??
You know, Shelly, while you never come out and attack someone, almost every post I've ever read of yours has been out and out nasty. If you have some bitterness about something, let it go already. Delvax doesn't need anyone to speak for him. He stated his opinion that he thinks AYS is a rip off. I stated my opinion that I don't think he's telling the whole story. There's two conflicting opinions there. Isn't part of what this forum is for? My first post was in no way attacking towards delvax. Sure, we've had words in the past. But that happens.
My opinion is that AYS isn't going anywhere, which is what I said. So, I'll ask you again: Where's the attack??
My opinion is that AYS isn't going anywhere, which is what I said. So, I'll ask you again: Where's the attack??
too focused on the software....what are you smoking? 
I don't understand how you can not get the concept of removing CHEATERS.
You belong to PAID TO READ!, and that is where your earnings come from.
You READ the email and you click, you do not have to join the program being advertised.
I to send out many ads and I'm not really fond of some machine just doing the clicking so that some CHEATER can take my money. Maybe you do not mind if they do that and are only interested in making money. But I'm sure if it was your adverting you might want someone to see it.
AYS is not going any where, I have been paid (without downline)and get a Great responce to my advertising.
If you can not READ your emails, then quit, we will be sad to see ya go.
But stop complaining about CHEAT LINKS they serve thier purpose..........
I don't understand how you can not get the concept of removing CHEATERS.
You belong to PAID TO READ!, and that is where your earnings come from.
You READ the email and you click, you do not have to join the program being advertised.
I to send out many ads and I'm not really fond of some machine just doing the clicking so that some CHEATER can take my money. Maybe you do not mind if they do that and are only interested in making money. But I'm sure if it was your adverting you might want someone to see it.
AYS is not going any where, I have been paid (without downline)and get a Great responce to my advertising.
If you can not READ your emails, then quit, we will be sad to see ya go.
But stop complaining about CHEAT LINKS they serve thier purpose..........
The whole point of PTR is Paid to R-E-A-D.
If you click on the cheat link at the Redemption Center.. it is because you didn't R-E-A-D it.
So.. if you can't R-E-A-D and comprehend (that means understand) the cheat link,
chances are you haven't R-E-A-D and understood everything you clicked in the past.
In any event... it isn't everyone who is clicking the cheat link... it is just the few people who cannot R-E-A-D English and follow the simple instructions.
I am tired of seeing people beat up on the WM's for issues that are caused by the members stupidity... and not the WM's.
WM's need to own and take responsibility for thier actions.
Members need to own and take responsibility for thier actions.
If you click on the cheat link at the Redemption Center.. it is because you didn't R-E-A-D it.
So.. if you can't R-E-A-D and comprehend (that means understand) the cheat link,
chances are you haven't R-E-A-D and understood everything you clicked in the past.
In any event... it isn't everyone who is clicking the cheat link... it is just the few people who cannot R-E-A-D English and follow the simple instructions.
I am tired of seeing people beat up on the WM's for issues that are caused by the members stupidity... and not the WM's.
WM's need to own and take responsibility for thier actions.
Members need to own and take responsibility for thier actions.
| QUOTE (LKSMTS @ Nov 2 2003, 12:14 AM) | ||
Probably if we made an error by accidently clicking a cheat link or whatever we did wrong, we would just accept that we made a mistake and move on with our lives. I can't stand when people click a cheat link and get deleted and then go running here to scream SCAM! Grow up and learn to accept responsibility for your actions. |
So what about the one's that when AYS changed from a $10 payout to a $50 payout before all the cheat links. That all got screw when they came up to payout of just a $1 away that got deleted. I'm talking about over 3000 members go back in to the form and look at AYS. They ripped off alot of people one of them was me. And yes I stuck up for the guy at the first and within a week of that bam I was gone. No Answer from him or his so called legal people he was telling everyone to email and they would look at your account and email you back. All of that was a joke. I hope the guy gets shut down.
The only person who will win this will be the lawyer...
Client A loses $50+ by being deleted
Lawyer A earns $$$$$ to get back $50+ lost by client....
Client A loses $50+ by being deleted
Lawyer A earns $$$$$ to get back $50+ lost by client....
This program has a one strike your out policy. I may not like it but then again I signed up knowing it. If I am so overworked that I click it by mistake OH WELL my loss. I know the rules. Come here and complain about it all you want. Just dont expect to much sympathy.
| QUOTE (brela101201 @ Nov 2 2003, 02:11 AM) |
| You know, Shelly, while you never come out and attack someone, almost every post I've ever read of yours has been out and out nasty. If you have some bitterness about something, let it go already. Delvax doesn't need anyone to speak for him. He stated his opinion that he thinks AYS is a rip off. I stated my opinion that I don't think he's telling the whole story. There's two conflicting opinions there. Isn't part of what this forum is for? My first post was in no way attacking towards delvax. Sure, we've had words in the past. But that happens. My opinion is that AYS isn't going anywhere, which is what I said. So, I'll ask you again: Where's the attack?? |
Everybody has their own opinion and they are well entitled to it..
C'mon Brela in over 1000 posts I'm sure you can find at least one that isn't nasty. But if you seriously can't then I am on a roll.
As for let the bitterness go...well everytime you or anyone else tells us to let it go then you are permitting the webmasters to continue shoving it to us in a part of the anatomy where the sun dosen't shine
| QUOTE (WebMomMary @ Nov 2 2003, 04:36 PM) |
| The whole point of PTR is Paid to R-E-A-D. If you click on the cheat link at the Redemption Center.. it is because you didn't R-E-A-D it. So.. if you can't R-E-A-D and comprehend (that means understand) the cheat link, chances are you haven't R-E-A-D and understood everything you clicked in the past. In any event... it isn't everyone who is clicking the cheat link... it is just the few people who cannot R-E-A-D English and follow the simple instructions. I am tired of seeing people beat up on the WM's for issues that are caused by the members stupidity... and not the WM's. WM's need to own and take responsibility for thier actions. Members need to own and take responsibility for thier actions. |
I used to feel the same way until I accidently clicked the first one...If it makes you feel better to call me stupid for it then by all means knock yourself out.I can take it...However when you click your first one and trust me sooner or later it WILL happen I will be here to return the favor
| QUOTE (Shelly @ Nov 3 2003, 10:52 AM) | ||
I used to feel the same way until I accidently clicked the first one...If it makes you feel better to call me stupid for it then by all means knock yourself out.I can take it...However when you click your first one and trust me sooner or later it WILL happen I will be here to return the favor |
Who said you're stupid? Who said ANYONE in this thread was stupid, OP or otherwise, for clicking a cheat link?
I've clicked cheat links in 2 different programs, and I didn't run to any board screaming that it was everyone else's fault but my own.
Why is this such a difficult concept to grasp?
Clicking a cheat link does NOT make you stupid, a jerk, ignorant, nasty, etc. But it DOES mean you either did not read, weren't paying attention, or got distracted in some way. NONE of these things are the webmasters fault, nor the advertisers fault. So why does the PROGRAM get blamed for these things?
I can still feel bad for you, while at the same time realizing it's your fault. Everybody feels bad when they make a mistake. It's how you handle yourself AFTER you make the mistake, that makes the difference.
(The "you" was a generalization, it wasn't pointed at the person I quoted.)
~ Ambrie ~
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